tv Charlie Rose The Week PBS November 4, 2016 11:30pm-12:01am PDT
>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, the race for the white house enters the final weekend before election day. the f.b.i., e-mail, and hillary clinton. and sarah jessica parker returns to television in hbo's "divorce." >> hello. >> mrs. roberts, do you need a lawyer? >> let's get this party started. >> i'm going to make you miserable. >> monster. >> he's not a monster. he's the father of my children. >> so your children are half-monsters. >> raised by humans. >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the
following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> i had a dream. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> that to me is the magic time. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >>ab enormous commitment. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: we begin this week with a look at the news of the week. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. allied forces reach mosul. >> iraqi special forces are closing in on the islamic state's stronghold of mosul after two weeks of fighting. >> isis, less than a kilometer away. a constant day in and day out. >> another powerful earthquake rattled central italy. >> this tremor the stongest since 1980. >> there is a verdict in the trial over 2013 lane closures to
the george washington bridge. both aides to governor chris christie have been found exwlt of all charges. >> reporter: a fightal pipeline explosion in alabama. >> oh, my god, it was growing so fast. >> rose: the f.b.i. begins reading huma abedin's e-mails? >> we won't be distracted no matter what our opponents throw at us. we are just getting warmed up, right? >> we never thought we were going to say thank you to anthony weaner. >> it's true. it seems anthony wean ser forth the nation to relitigate the entire e-mail controversy and putting hillary clinton's chances of winning the presidency in serious danger. carlos danger ♪ danger ♪ . >> this is a reflex. i'm not having fun. you are ruining my dance! ♪ i wear my sunglasses at night >> reporter: joe biden slipso his aviators on the trail yesterday. >> maybe when i need a job, ray
ban may hire me as a sponsor. >> the cubs win the world series! it's over! and the cubs have finally won it all. >> the chicago cubs victory game seven of the world series last night, hillary clinton tweeted a message of support saying, "way to make history, cubs." while donald trump tweeted, "polls show i won world series. crooked cubs belong in jail ♪ ♪ chicago is >> rose: it is the final weekend before the presidential election, and the only thing certain is that voters will go to the polls on tuesday. where does the race stand going into the final days? jonathan karl of abc news talked with his friend mike allen of politico. >> so, mike, we're going into this home stretch wherew things jumbled. on one hand, the polls, national polls seem to have stabilize a bit with hillary clinton up two or three point, depend who you
are looking at, within the margin of error, but state polls all over the place, with trump up a bit in places like pennsylvania-- not up, but closer. and the map really a jumble in places like nevada, florida, north carolina. so let's just look at how this race is right now from, let's start from trump tower. how are the the trump folks looking at this race? >> well, john, we're anything into windsheer weekend because it's the weekend what we fall back. we have an extra hour to, like, obsess. and there is an epic freakout going on on both sides right now. >> how does the trump team think they're going to win this? >> how they're going to win is that-- >> what's the path? >> they have what he's had from the beginning, and that is momentum and excitement. and the argument is that if you going into this crazy weekend, if you have momentum and excitement and optimism, that suddenly the state polls mean less, and the national mood means a lot.
of course, that's what trump has been surfing from the beginning. >> but, mike, if you look at-- if we had been having this conversation a month ago, the map looked really, really small. >> everything has tightened. no doubt about it. >> we were down to basically north carolina and florida being true toss-ups with trump seeming to be in the lead in ohio and hillary seeming to have put away nevada and new hampshire. now you have a map where hillary clinton is going to be today in detroit. >> right. >> in michigan. >> for the get out the vote. >> there's a poll out today showing that race within four-- >> and she's spending in virginia. there's a story on the front page ofitateee metro section of the "washington post" saying virginia is tight. everything is tighter. >> "priorities u.s.a." is spending in wisconsining. they sent bernie sanders out there. these are states we weren't even considering. >> that's why the trump folks
have this second wind. >> my sense though, getting back to the view from book lip, the clinton team feels a lot more one of the ways we see thats is from the republican senate polling. i think one of the best window into what is happening in a lot of these states are the republican senate candidates because they have real operations and real polling and in state after state, including florida, including ohio, we see the republican senate candidates -- mark rubio in florida, markport man in ohio, running way, way, way ahead of trump. and that's another reason trump could win. and why do people go to the races? because long shots come in. >> one of the other subplots here is chris christie and bridge-gate. and we now have the verdict, guilty, his top aides dplt. what does it mean? >> assuming a president trump, less likely to be attorney general. you look at the testimony that came out, and the governor is not accused of, any hasn't admitted to anything, but in the testimony it was all embarrassing.
and it was all pointing to very widespread contention within his inner circle that he knew about the bridge closing. and so the people who have been-- the critics of the governor have been very much vindicated by this verdict, makes a new, exciting top job for him in washington much more difficult in the coming days. >> rose: in a letter to members of congress, the f.b.i. director james comey upset the presidential race last friday. he announced the f.b.i. would be investigating more e-mails that may concern hillary clinton. all we really know is that the e-mails were found on a computer belonging to clinton's top aide huma abedin, and her estranged husband, anthony weaner. also this week, the controversy grew as the justice department
said no further information will be released until the investigation is complete. what does it mean for hillary clinton and the election? i put that question to our panel. >> i think investigators will tell you generally that they don't get to pick their scheduled. >> rose: right. >> and i think, frankly, there's no way to make it go faster without possibly missing stuff which is, frankly, would only make situation worse. so i think-- a lot of people who talk to me say, "look, it's very likely that the next president, if it's hillary clinton, could be sworn in while an investigation is ongoing," and frankly, while more than one investigation is ongoing. >> rose: does the hillary campaign, does the trump campaign want this to be release before? do they want the investigation not to extend into past election day? >> on the republican side, you know, this had just served from heaven, and uncertainty actually, i think, benefits their side of the argument.
because they can fill in the blanks with a lot of things that may be true but no one knows whether they are or not. >> rose: molly? will it have an impact? or is it already, evidently, having an impact? so you have to start with the fact just by whose happened so far has an impact? >> it's really hard to know, not only because it is impossible to predict the future but because the polls that we've seen so far, there was already a trend of tightening before this dropped. and, you know, it's obviously to the trump campaign's benefit to paint this as something that adds to a sort of cloud of suspicion that hangs over hillary clinton wherever she goes, whatever she does, this impression that she just has so much baggage. that is something his supporters already believe. but the clinton campaign is worried that she may have had soft supporters, particularly the republicans and conservative-leaning independents who find trump unacceptable, after that last debate, a lot of them seemed to be willing to consider her
acceptable, and this may have shut the door. it may cut into her margin. they are still confident she will win the election based on her ground game in battleground states and based on the advantage she had already built up, and the fact that so many millions of people have already voted. but i don't see any way in which this is beneficial to her. but the amazing thing about this story is how little anybody knows. >> rose: exactly! include the f.b.i.! >> the trump campaign certainly doesn't know what's on that laptop. the clinton campaign doesn't know what what's that laptop. the f.b.i. doesn't know what's on that laptop. the white house doesn't know what's on that laptop. even huma abedin says she doesn't know what's on that laptop. >> rose: john meacham is a pulitzer prize-winning historian, his most recent book "destiny and power" is now out
in paperback. it offers some interesting comparisons to the current presidential race. >> there's a moment, october of 1990, where cnn does a split screen of george h.w. bush walking out with the congressional leadership to aflounce the budget deal that broke the "no new taxes" pledge. on the other side of the screen was newt gingrich going out the front door. that is the partisanship "bronco chase" in many ways. >> rose: i've never-- he-- he knew the firestorm it would create. >> yeah. >> rose: "read my lips." >> yup. >> rose: he knew how powerful that had been for him. and he knew that the economy was in trouble. >> yup. >> rose: but he somehow-- >> well, he -- >> did he know he was signing-- >> yes. >> rose: his-- >> yes, he did. he knew that he would be dead meat. that was his phrase. >> rose: and his thing was not domestic policy. it was foreign policy.
>> very much so. so he in june of 1990, feeling the pressure, he agreed to a package of excise taxes-- cigarettes, liquor, gas. but here's what happened -- >> consumption taxes. >> exactly. here's what happened. the right i think, ultimately led by newt gingrich, bolts on the president, their president, which totally throws bush off because bush was and is the best of party soldiers in many ways. >> rose: and a former party chairman. >> the democrats, after gingrich bolted, the democrats sensed weakness. and so they did something, the ultimate package which had not been part of the initial compromise, to raise income tax rates. the republican rebellion exacerbated the policy result. and bush paid for it forever. i suspect in many ways the 1992 election was lost on it that day
when he said that he-- he didn't take -- >> he lost to bill clinton in '92. >> with a big assist from ross perot. >> rose: right, right. >> ? many ways the 20th searchry ended eight years early. the first baby boom president. clinton understood the new world, the world we're living in. he understood cable tv. he understood the intersection of celebrity and politics. as i've said before, bill clinton went on arsenio hall. george bush thought arsenio hall was a building at andover. >> rose: and he played the saxophone on arsenio hall. >> and it's impossible to imagine ros perot without what? larry king. >> rose: exactly. >> so there's a line between all of that and what's happening with trump and trump now. what i find so moving about president bush-- and it's not nostalgia. it's not sentiment. on a couple of occasions in his life, like all great politicians, he made significant compromises in the pursuit of
power. he opposed the '64 civil rights act when he ran in texas. but in 1968 he vote for fair housing when he is actually in power. 1988, he runs a rough campaign against michael dukakis. but he gets in and tries to govern from the center-- americans with disabilities act, clean air act. and it was rooted totally in fair play, bush's sense that everybody deserves an equal chance. it's almost impossible to imagine in the current climate a piece of far-reaching domestic legislation like that originating in the republican party. and yet, this was 25 years ago. >> rose: in the mid-1970s, tommy hilfiger launched his namesake brand. the global business now encompasses everything from men's and women's sports wear to fragrance. he's written a book about all
that. it's called, "american dreamer: my life in fashion and business." >> we had a product, a name. i had a dream. we had the manufacturing, lawrence stroll had experience in europe with all of laurent. joel horowitz had experience running businesses, also started. >> rose: but you had the brand. >> i had the brand. >> rose: and how established was the brand at that time? >> it was known as a result of george lois' campaign. within the fashion circles. but it wasn't globally known or nationally known. >> rose: but what made it brilliant? >> i really believe surrounding myself with the right partners was the right idea because each one of the partners contributed something major to the business. >> rose: but what made the branding by george lois brilliant? >> uniqueness. breakthrough disruption in the marketplace -- >> he showed the colors. >> we showed the colors but he compared my name to other big names in the industry.
and i was not yet known. so ralph lauren, calvin klein. i was not yet known. >> rose: by a large margin. and that took a certain audacity, too, because you know people were saying, where has he come from? these guys have very lucrative businesses, and he's just starting. >> exactly. it was george lois' genius. he said this will make the name -- >> you had a brand before you had a reputation. >> yeah. >> rose: and before you had a product of significance. >> that's right. >> rose: so you then had to say, how do we make the product as good as the brand?" >> that's exactly right. >> rose: but you had the combination of talent to do it. >> i had a great team. it's like having a band. and we really worked together for many, many years building it, took it public. we did licensing deals. we expanded globally. we did all the things that were necessary in building a global
lifestyle brand. >> rose: and then came the controversy. the nasty little rumors started. >> that's right. >> rose: that you said, "i don't want black people to wear my clothes." >> which was a nasty rumor. >> rose: untrue. >> i never said it. >> rose: and they said you said it on "oprah." or did they say you said it on "oprah "or somehow she was tied to the idea that you told her, correct or not? >> yes, they said i was on "oprah" and i said it, and she kicked me off the show. but i had never been on "oprah" at that point. a year or two went by, and the rumor continued on the internet. so she said, "look, tommy, i know you. i know what kind of person you are. come on the show. let's dispel the rumor, "and she told the audience, "this is a big, fat lie "p." and it was it was ridiculous. >> rose: what happened? >> i think it subside a little bit. but then i heard from jewish iends that in the synagogue people were saying he's
antisemitic, and i found out from my latino friends that, "oh, we hear you don't like hispanics." and then i heard from filipino people that i didn't like philippineoze. and i heard from my gay friends they didn't like gays. and all of a sudden, this rumor got out of control. but in reality, it was all created from someone who might have been jealous. someone who wanted to ignite it. >> rose: you think it was a competitor, don't you? >> a lot of people think so, i don't know. >> rose: you really don't know? >> i don't know. >> rose: this year marks the 33rd anniversary of the legendary rock band bon jovi. the group has told more than 130 million records. this week, they released their 14th studio album "this
house is not for sale." >> why i use that word "truth" and why "integrity" means so much to me, i've been around long enough that fadz and fashionfashions have come and g. three iterations of boy band generationgenerations have come. rap music has come and gone. grunge music has come and gone. and what i never did was jump on those bandwagons when they were becoming increasing more popular. as i grew and grew up, i would not try to rewrite "you give love a bad name "or "living on a prayer "again. i was 25 years old. at 54 you have something else to say or i'm going to come to you and b.s. you. >> rose: how would you characterize the band when it started? >> a rock band. certainly just a rock band. we definitely didn't want to be pigeonholed into anything. i have very few regret but maybe one of them would be that my fourth album was called "new jersey" because no one ever compared to us anyone from new jersey before then. we got lumped into being in
those "hair bands" in the 80s. but i kept thinking there is more to it. ♪ i hammered each nail this house is not for sale." >> rose: are you a songwriter who happens to perform or a performer who happens to write songs? >> i think that my-- i'm a very good performer, but my joy comes from song writing. song writing first, recording second, performing third. i do enjoy the interaction with an audience, but i nom an applause junky. i know those who are. i don't live for that. writing a song for me is the closest thing a songwriter will ever know to immortality. if you are blessed with a song that has been on the charts fair long period of time or has withstood generations and music style changes, that's going to outlive anything else that i do. >> rose: but you'd rather be on stage than be in the studio?
>> no, the opposite. i'd rather write a song. and then when you write the song you want to see it come to life and that's when you go out and share it. >> rose: but it comes to life with an audience. it doesn't come to life in the studio. >> it's a second life, it's a different life. >> rose: when you're on stage, after you recorded this and you have performed it. >> yes. >> rose: that's when you take it and you say, "here, it'sures." >> "now it's yours. you determine what the lyric means to you. "and then it takes on a different life. hearing it come to life when the band counts out, "one, two, three, four." that's when they confirm the notebook was worth something. that to me is the magic time. >> rose: a dozen years after the end of "sex and the city" sarah jessica parker is back on hbo. she stars in the new comedy
series "divorce." she and thomas hayden church play a new york couple who have decided to end their marriage after nearly two decades. >> it was an idea that i had about four years ago. i mean, generally speaking, i was curious about exploring marriage and long-term, committed relationships. and i think i was looking at friends in my life and the various stages they found themselveses -- whether in the sort of conventional-- you know, the institution of marriage or just having these long-- these commitments that were substantive and meaningful. and it was interesting and curious to see people at various points of reckoning, of contemplating big decisions, you know-- divorce, affairs. i just think it's such richland scape of material. >> rose: with that idea, did you then look for the right
piece of work? >> yes. >> rose: that you could go sell hbo on? >> yes. it was among several things that i was producing and developing. i have a little company at hbo called pretty matches production. it was just an idea among many that i was interested that i found compelling. and the more that we developed this story and the idea, the more it became impossible for me to say no. and, frankly, i wasn't generous enough in spirit to offer this to somebody else because it was-- it was the first -- >> because you were-- >> it was the first woman since playing cary bradshaw, who was as complicated, as human as-- as willing to illustrate shortcomings and triumph and be disappointing to people and reliable. and a deeply committed person. he was having an emotional affair with her the whole time.
and somebody who is-- has surprisingly bad judgment. >> rose: so what does it say about marriage, that it's difficult, that it's complicated? that there are affairs? that people-- >> yes, i think it says all of that. i think it also speaks of the-- it's a portrait of a marriage now, you know, a marriage that is-- that is struggling financially because of our economy, because of choices that the partners made. it's a marriage that is complicated by infidelity. it's a marriage complicated by revelations about financial fraud and children and -- >> all the things that make marriage difficult. >> and yet, amusing and ridiculous and it's also an examination of an attempt at divorce ask what does that endeavor mean for most families
of working americans, you know, who aren't super wealthy, who are clinging to middle class and trying to do it right and be decent and honorable in the process, who orbits around divorce? who feeds on divorce? what does it do to your friendships? >> rose: here is a look at the week ahead. sunday is the new york city marathon. monday is the day of the 20th annual hollywood film awards. tuesday election day. wednesday is the 25th anniversary of the hoping of the berlin wall. thursday is the day the azcap music awards are presented in london. friday is veterans' day. saturday is the qualifying round of the formula 1 brazilian grand prix. and here is what's new for your weekend.
"doctor strange" starring benedict cumberbatch is released in theaters nationwide. bon jovi has a new album out, "this house is not for sale." and the 10-part series "the crown" premieres on netflix. >> the crown must win. must always win. >> rose: and that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. from all of us here, thank you for watching. i'm charlie rose. we'll see you next time.
>> rose: welcome to the program. we begin this evening with dexter filkins who just returned from damascus, syria, and a conversation with bashar al-assad. >> we were sitting together in this small room. i asked him about being a war criminal, and he said, i don't cake it personally. you know, the west is against me. i've become a headline for them. this is how they paint the conflict in black and white, so i'm the bad guy and the rebels are the good guys. >> rose: we continue with jonathan karl and mike allen in conversation about politics 2016. >> if you're in trump tower, you suddenly feel like you have new oxygen. what the comey letter did was let trump off the mat and republican senate candidates off the mat. so the fact that republicans are stil