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>> sreenivasan: on this edition for sunday, march 25: the conversation about ghes in america,ay after marches across the country. in our signature segment, for some, gun ownership is an extension of the civil rights struggle. ugd, a look at the immigrant experience thothe lives of three families. next on pbs newshour weekend.ou >> "p newweekend" is made possible by: bernard and irene schwartz. the cheryl and philip milstein family. sue and edgar wachenheim, iii. dr. p. roy vagelos and diana t. vagelos. the j.p.b. foundation. the anderson family fund. rosalind p. walter. barbara hope zuckerberg. corporate funding is provided by mutual of america--
designing customized individual and group retirement products. that's why we're your retirement company. >> additional support has been provided by: and by the corporation for gpublic broadcastnd by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. from the tch wnet studios at lincoln center in new york, hari sreenivasan.go >> sreenivasan evening and thank you for joining us. a day after hundreds of thousands of people rallied in supporof gun control, the students leading the "march for our lives" movement are hopingt to turn protto action. some of the students from marjory stoneman douglas high school who addressed the crowdse at rallies yesrday took their message to talk shows today. >> this is led by the youth and it is lead for the youth.an if we can encourage these people to take action, to be participating in our society and
our politics, then that's going to encourage our voters to actually turn out. >> sreenivan: democratic senator mark warner of virginia, who voted against an assault weapons ban after the sandy hook massacre, said he was g to re-examine his position. >> i think it's time for us to have a legitimate debate about restrictions on gun mazines and assault weapons. you get into definitions but the basic notion of these weapd ized militariapons need to be off our streets. >> sreenivasan: republican senator joni ernst of iowa applauded the students' efforts but cautioned against infringing on the second amendment. >> i think that the status quo is not okay and that's what these young demonstrators are- are speaking out against. and so we do have to find a way forward, but simply stating, "we need to get rid of other people rights," is not the right way forward. >> sreenivasan: but the sunday shows also talked about a possible trade war bng after president trump proposed $50 billion in tariffs on china last week. treasury secretary steve mnuchin said he is in negotiations with
chinese officials on the tariffs. >> i'm cautiously hopeful we reach an agreement. but, i with these-- these tariffs. we are not putting them on hold unless we have an acceptable agreement that the president signs off on. >> sreenivasan: also at the white house last week, president trump named former u.n. bassador john bolton to replace outgoing national ty advisor h.r. mcmaster former trump campaign manager onrey lewandowski explaine issue where trump and mcmaster failed to see eye-to-eye. >> h.r. mcmaster was the individual in the building who was advocating for a larger enesence in afghanistan, which the preshad talked about during the campaign that he wasn in favor of. and more intervention on behalf of the military, and that's not where this president is. >> sreenivasan: the president is looking for a new lead lawyer for the russia investigationjo afte dowd resigned on thursday. mr. trump tweeted this morningat "many lawyers and top law firms want to represent me in
the russia case." he noted that the problem is a new lawy get up to speed on the case. last week, the president invited attorneys joe digenova and victoria toeing to join the legal team but today the white house announced conflicts of interest with their other clients that would prevent them fr taking the jobs. it has been another busy weekend in the political world, to help us sort it out is newsur weekend special correspondent jeff greenfield who joins us tiom santa barbara california. when you see th kids and what they are able to accomplish, in the never again and march for our lives protests that happened yesterday, all y havehe world, do t what it takes to make this a long-term and sustainable agenda item for en thi coming election? >> i will anne thatuestion mid november. there is no question that not just the size of these demonstrations but the nature of th, unlike past demonstration straitions, there were not divisive messages am but the question you are asking is does it have staying ywer. wing people who were able
to come to washington or march in their cities, six months from now, wil they be registering people, will they be getting people to the polls to te for candidates who support them. and if that happens, then this mp going to be something of really significanttance. if the energy of all these people turns into political action, it will upend all the expectations about the fall because you will seeing an involvement that, you know, that pollsters until a few weeks ago haven't even calculated. >> sreenivasan: let's tn our attention to the white house and legal matters dogging president trump. he seems to be shuffling his legal team around. in some ways the people who are kind of tried and true lawyers that understand how washington lworks aren't rly on that team or aren't volunteering to be on it, and then on the other hand there are the onesho are pretty good on tv. t almost seems like there are two, the court anthe court of public opinion.
>> and let's not forget that te quote tv lawyers, josep deagain era just today surgeon turns out he can't be on that team becau there are conflicts involving who he represents that pe in some way or another related to thesbes. what that tells me, and this isn't the first time we have seen this, on a sheemanagerial level, this white house is some what i have never seen, and i don't mean that as a complimentt how you cannot a high profile lawyer in what may be a very significant case and not realize that that lawyer is conflicted. is simbeplnd me. and if this is how the white house intends to pursue its legal role with respect to mueller, that doesn't signal good things for the white house. >> sreenivasan: finally, a different kind of legal case. a case of this merger of at&t and time warner, it's pretty quengs and it's been fairlye buried in avalanche of news that seems to come out of washington.
>> right, the trial just started this week. it could be incrntedibly subseq in terms of the whole media landscape in brief at&t wants t buy time warner. at&t is a pipe t brings satellite and cable to the internet and about li25 mon homes. time warner produces what goes through theipe. news and entertainment. hbo, cnn. if you wat the final four run-up yesterday, you watched them on turn are-- turner network. jus tition department is saying this could be o big a compan t could threaten competition, but what time warner and at&t are arguing, this is the significant part, we may look big but we are being threatened by the real monsters, netflix, apple, google and facebook. and so what they are going to be arguing is what looks like a move towards dominance and it might have been 10 or 20 years ago, given this media landscape, we're doing this to survive. >> jeff greefield from sant barbara, california, thanks so >> thank you.
>> sreenivasan: yesterday's march in washington was just one more chapter in america's ntcades-long debate about guns, gun l, and the second amendment. but often under-represented in that argument is a group of gun owners who believe they are a particular target of vlence, and need to defend themselves. newshour weekend special coespondent simon ostrovsk has our report. >> high ready. fire.ot ( gun s ) >> reporter: this gun range is similar to others across america, where firearms enthusiasts, proud a ond protectitheir second amendment rights, can practice becoming a better shot. >> there you go. whenever you're ready. ( gun shots )
how you like it? >> i like it a lot. >> move, move, move, move! >> reporter: but this isn't a gathering of the national rifle association. >> usually the clubs that i se is mostly caucasians and so i saw this club, it was pretty unique and so i gave it a shot. >> in august of 2017 i i became a member of this chapter of the national african american gun association. >> reporter: we're with the denver branch of the nional african american gun association and chapters like it are opening up all across the cotry because for an increasing number of people color the trump-era has been a call to arms. >> high ready. fire. >> you know, some of the things that we were seeing in the news a lot of the things that the president was saying and the reactions that we saw from a lot of members of the white community-- not everyone but more white supremacists-- it l seemede having some form of
protection was aood thing for us to have. >> the incident in charlottesville when you had the white supremacists, th nazis, and the white nationalists. and they came to that protest armed to the teeth, they had all types of weapons. and when a person got run over e one of their supporters his answer was well the good people on both sides. my theory is if you're marching under the confederate flag orch you're mg under the nazi flag which america fought twoof wars to get riou're not a good person. >> fire. >> rorter: david fannings is an army veteran who idlieves the prt's rhetoric has made the country less safe for minorities. >> he's saying what they have thought and felt for a long time, and him being the leader of the country, it's like giving them a green light. >> this is a 12-gauge shotgun.
this one operates very much like an a.r. type rifle. for home defense a shotgun is real good. when i heard about naag, to be able to be a member of an organization that was run by us, r us, that appealed to me. >> reporter: with just under 25 thousand members, this gun group is tiny compared to the n.r.a., which claims around five million. but in the last 14 months, the owtional african american gun association, also s naag, has grown from just 14 chapters to 52. based in atlanta, the group's leadership doesn't sound so different from its n.r.a. counterpart. >> the second amendment is an important right just like any other right that we have. and it's one that our community has a complicated history with. but it's a right nonetheless that without that rit, it'sd very h assume a position of a fully-fledged citizen inte
these united s >> reporter: but at naag, exercising your second amendme't rights isn just a way to defend yourself and your family. it's seen as an extension of something much larger: the civil rights struggle. o >> so sothe first gun control laws that came about in this country were related to race. they were related to keeng guns out of the hands of african american people. >> to contain the misery and violence of the ghetto oakland's all-white police department earned a reputation for head knocking brutality that has left a well remembered gacy of bitterness in the minds and hearts of many who lived in that time and place. >> reporter: back in the 1960s, some young african americans ina and, california responded to police overreach by following the police and observing arrests. they called themselves the black panthers.
and they were armed to the teeth legally. their armed patrols and an open y protest at the state capital alarmed the authorities so much that in 1967 thestate instituted an open-carry ban. >> am i under arrest? take your hands off me. >> reporter: ironically, it was signed into law by then governor ronald reagan. >> there's absol why out on the street today civilians should be carrying a loaded weapon. >> reporter: but as president,he trongly supported the n.r.a. and vocally defended the second amendment. as does the current president. >> i am also proud to be the first sitting president to address the n.r.a. leadership forum since our woerful ronald reagan in 1983. >> i'd be lying to you if i said the political arena has not affected our membership. people look at what's going on politically and see some of the comments that are made b h certain foigh places and it makes them a little unnerving. that has definitely been a part
of our growth. >> reporter: while the new political climate is contributing to the interest ict personal pron among african americans. >> the reason i lled you over, your brake lights are out. >> reporter: part of the reason naag members aren't flocking to the n.r.a. is a policing culture that predates trump. >> sir i do have to tell you. >> okay. >> i do have a firearm on me. >> don't reach for it then. don't pull it out. >> i'm n pulling it out. don't pull it out. >> reporter: the 2016 shooting of philando castile, a black gun owth a concealed carry permit outraged the african american community. but in this instance the nation most established gu advocacy group didn't jump to publicly defend castile's second amenright. >> as far as the n.r.a. is concerned, i'm a lay it oute there becadon't sugar coat it. i i'm a gito you in the raw you take it anyway you want to. but you didn't defend my son the way you would have defended a whitperson. they should have stood up for my
son and gave him the due respect that they do anyone else that's killed in that manner. >> i used to be a member of the n.r.a., but i don't feel supported by the n.r.a. tords my needs in my community. so, it's just, they are not there. >> reporter: are you talking about incidents like philando castile? >> yes. he announced that he does have a concealed carry and he was lawful and he got shot immediately. the n.r.a. did not come forward and condemn the deadly use of force on a person that was egally carrying. >> anytime there was an issue with someone who looked like me orho i felt could be a parof my family, i don't believe the t.r.a. had their back or had their best inter >> our oldest son is 27, he has a concealed weapon permit. he's allowed to carry. that worries me, because if he's
pulled over he's going to be treated differently. and he's often targeted and pulled over. it has happened to him more times than i'd like to admit. whhour weekend.view withd not e african american interest in personal protection appears to be rising, gun sales nationally are trending in their oppositetion. f.b.i. figures show that background checks made by gun sellers dropped off during trump's first year in office. the store in aurora, colorado, where the denver chapter trains is no exception. >> for eight years when president obama was office gun sales were incredibly brisk so probably you ow 15 to 18% drop overall in business since president trump's been elected. >> reporter: what do you attribute th to? >> i think basically nobody is reallyoo concerned about any new gun legislation, so people are taking a big sigh and they uyfigure that they can b whatever they want frly easily certainly up till maybe the midterm eltions.
>> reporter: for now, members of naag will keep sharpening their shooting skills and standing up for what they see as an essential civil right. >> one of the things that's always affected me personally is that i've had people say, "hey, uu're a person of color, shouldn't have guns, right? rocause you can be a target, it's dan." and my answer to that is i should have the right to have a gun ke anybody else because i'm not a second class american, i'm an american. fa >> sreenivasan: th of the so-called dreamers remains unresolved, and there doesn't appear to be any broader immigration policy on the horizon either. a new hibit at the tenement museum here in new york sets the politics aside by examining the stories of three families who came to the united states after
worlbiwar ii the exis called "under one roof." ivette feliciano reports. >> see, visitors love to do that because ound they hadn't heard in many years. >> reporter: nine years of being vp of programs a education at new york city's tenement museum has appreciation for the tiny details that bring the immigrant experience to life. >> this apartment is alike three time capsules rolled into one. we realized that we could be able to in one exhibit tell at once a migration story and immigration story and a refugee storlsy. what we'retrying to do is show the impact of immigration laws on the lives of families. >> reporter: the three familiesf ed lived in this building at 103 orchard street at different points from the 1950s and 1960s through the early
2000s. when you walk into the dini k room, you meman and rivka epstein, jewish refugees from poland who escaped the holocaust. >> these are pictures of kalman and rivka who come in 1947. >> reporter: they met in a the u.s. they had two daughters bella and bluma, who lived in this recreated bedroom. bella epstein recounts her favorite song growing up in the 1950s and learning about american culture through pop music. her voice isded in this record player. >> i had gotten my mother to buy me a record-- "oh please stay by me diana"
>> i'm so young and you're so old. >> that was the song. it was played more in my house than i think anywhere else in the world. that was it, that made me e erican. >> reporter: in xt stop, you meet ramonita rivera saez, who migrated from puerto rico to new york with her two sons jose and andy velez. saez found work in a garment factory and joined the woternational ladies' garment ers' union. >> this picture of ramonita, this picture was used in part as >>e basis for this exhibit. eporter: she was part of the wave of more than a half million puerto ricans who migrated to new york city in the 1940s and 1950s. the museum meticulously recreate to look like hers.room but it's the plastic-covered couch, which keeps it free of stains andpills, that spurs memories for visitors of many different backgrounds. >> they could bemericans of chinese descent, irish descent, italian descent, they could be african-american.
but if you lived in the united states in the '60s and '70s, you had a relative, if not your own home, that had that plastic covered furniture. this is the wong sisters' bedroom. tit's recreated to be abo 1970s. th reporter: the wong family immigrated tu.s. from hong kong in 1965. like saez, mrs. wong, who didn't want to share her first name, worked in the garment factories inhe neighborhood, which t museum highlights in a recreated sewing factory. short video interviews with wong and others in the garment industry are projected throughout the room. >> rep wong family came to the u.s in 1965, the immigration and nationality act was signed by president lyndjohnson. the legislation brought sweeping
changes to the immig system by eliminating race-based inational-origin quotas s the 20s which favored northe and western european countries. it also prioritized the reunificatn of families. >> being able to frame stories through the lens of family allows people, gives people the lkom to talk about immigration and bout refugees and talk peout migrants in a way that's morethan when we talk about it with regard to policy or laws. or you know, rhetoric that is ated over and over again what we try to do is offer a space for people to approach these topics with fresh eyes. >> reporter: after the exhibit was finished last summer, the members of the three families were some of the first visitors. the exhibit is now on permanent display at the tenement museum.
>> this is pbs newshour weekend, sunday. >> sreenivasan: the newshour's student reporting labs sent a team to yeerday's march for our lives in washington, d.c., where they spoke with those affected by gun violence. this story was shot and edited by high schoolers from northview high school in covina california. 12th grader andre tinoco reports. >> students from all across are marching today to say that schools need to be a safer place, but what makes a school rofe varies f community to tucommunity, student to sdent. >> enough is enough. >> the city ofmoal provided free buses for 3,000 students to travel down to washington d.c. everybody shouldn't be able to get a gun just because they want one. there need to be more rules and make it harder to get a gun.>> we caught up with baltimore mayor katherine pugh as she arrived in d.c.. >> voices of urban youth need to be heard. no violence is ep isable. no one should die from gun have
i lens in this country. >> 16 year old diamond of scotsdale traveled overnight by bus with the chicago organization brave. a peer-led violence pretension-- prevention. she wantings people to understand in her commviity gun ence is a part of their daily lives. >> my cousin passed away. his name was frankie. gun violence. and he was shot andl kiled due to being in a caught fire in his kamplet he was shot in the head. for parkland it was that one ment, for tus is every day someone dies or a few people due die due to gun violence, for us it is forever and has been forever. >> no more violence. >> we know our facts, we are doing our research and we wiltal keep sing up for what we bleevment until what we believe comes true. >> a pbs newshour student reporting lab, in washington d.c. read more student coverage in the march for our
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