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welcome to our viewers on public television here in the u.s. and also around the globe. the most violent volcanic eruption in guatemala for more than a century has killed at least 62 people. three days of national mourning have been declared as rescuers search for those still missing. more than two main people have -- more than 2 million people have been affected, about 1/10 of the country's population. our correspondent aleem maqbool is in guatemala city. aleem: as spectacular and dramatic as it was destructive and deadly. in the most violent eruption in decades, the volcano fuego exploded in a shower of molten
rock and ash. plumes exploded several miles into the air. in one village, fascination with what was going on turned into terror as hot ash shot towards onlookers. fast-moving rivers of burning mud and debris spread chaos. in a panic, family members were up, children separated from their parents, and many are still missing. >> i only managed to find two children alive last night. my two daughters, grandson, and my son are missing, together with my entire family. aleem: entire villages were blanketed in a suffocating layer of hot ash. it is clear many stood little chance of getting away. those who did have been left shellshocked. next to bodies of people who died in a village, an elderly man sits. "look at the state i am in," he says. recovery workers look for
survivors or more bodies, but they do that in the shadow of a volcano that could erupt again at any time. >> the challenge we have faced is that the volcano has been active, and also the difficulty of working with this kind of material, which is extremely hot. aleem: many rescuers reported their shoes melted to the ground as they worked. this was always known to be an active volcano, but an eruption as big as this that claims so many lives is beyond living memory. now a new generation knows the horrors a volcano of fire can bring. aleem maqbool, bbc news, guatemala. and he -- joins and aleem us live. are there fears of another eruption from the volcano? aleem: they're absolutely are,
given that there have been subsequent explosions in the last 24 hours since the first major eruption. yes, certainly people are fearful. they have always known this was an active volcano. february.pt in but it didn't kill anybody, it just produced a lot of ash. what has happened in the last 24 hours has certainly struck fear into people here. there has also been an earthquake just off guatemala in recent hours. certainly people here are shaken. a lot -- many have left their homes around the area of the volcano. but even further afield, people are worried about what could happen next. laura: are there places that the rescuers still haven't been able to reach tonight? in sometill areas villages that are so covered in ash that they haven't been able
to excavate as yet, and they will have to stop soon because of their safety at nightfall. a lot of people are still missing, but they may have to wait yet another day until they are either reunited with their loved ones or the recovered bodies of them. a very grim situation. certainly it has been a difficult task for recovery workers, as you saw a net report there. they are working on ground that was still very hot. the ground had been covered with extremely hot ash. some areas had rivers of this lava mud and debris in them. one stage it was 700 degrees celsius, 1300 degrees fahrenheit. it has taken a long time to cool. and it is not over yet. laura: aleem maqbool in guatemala city, thank you.
the u.s. supreme court ruled in favor of a baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple because of his christian faith. but the ruling was a narrow one and it left many questions unanswered. earlier i spoke to jonathan turley, professor of constitutional law at george washington university. did the supreme court leave open this question of whether a religious shopkeeper has a constitutional right to refuse to serve gay people? jonathan: it did. it basically took an offramp. oftentimes we look to see in these tough cases whether at the end of the day, justices decide they want to simply punt this one, take an offramp and leave it for another case, another time. this court is divided. it is divided 4-4-1 in this area with kennedy in the middle. it was no accident that kennedy played such a dominant role here. i think at the end of the day,
some of the justices got sticker shock. they didn't want to go all the way and say that this is a free-speech case, free exercise case, and blow away discrimination laws. on the other hand, they express great sympathy for the baker. what they ended up doing is saying, well, one thing we all largely agree on is that he wasn't given his full due process. they didn't give him a hearing of his grievances. laura: is it likely that the court will have to opine on this again soon? jonathan: it will indeed. this is a live torpedo in the water in terms of constitutional law. we have been waiting for this answer not for a year, we have been waiting for decades for the court to resolve the conflict between antidiscrimination laws and free speech and free exercise. laura: turning to the president, who was tweeting up a storm this morning, he says he has an absolute right to pardon himself, and the white house insisted this afternoon he has done absolutely nothing wrong at all. in your view, does he have a right to pardon himself should this ever arise? jonathan: this has divided law professors for decades. it is almost a parlor game -- we
debate could the president pardon himself. he is the first president to make that hypothetical actual. i happen to fall on the side that he probably can, but it is a close question. it depends on how you interpret silence. the constitution does not say that he is the one person excluded from this power. for some of us, that indicates that he can do it. but he does not protect him -- but it does not protect him politically and it won't protect him in the case of impeachment. laura: well, the president was that theting today special counsel "is absolutely unconstitutional." why was he tweeting up such a storm? jonathan: he is trying to attack the legitimacy of the investigation and this lays the seeds for rejecting the conclusions in the report. the expectation is that even if there is not an indictment of this report is
likely to be scathing. you see a lot of the work being done. the supreme court looked at the independent counsel act, which is a little different from the special counsel, but found that that was constitutional. if anything, that was a harder case to make than a special counsel. i don't think the president has grounds to make the objection. laura: jonathan turley, thank you so much for joining us. jonathan: thank you. laura: i other news, in afghanistan, at least seven people have been killed and many otrs injured in a suicide bomb attack near a large gathering of muslim clerics in the capital, kabul. the blast happened as religious scholars were leaving a meeting which denounced violence in afghanistan as un-islamic. jordan's prime minister has resigned after public protests against austerity measures introduced by his government. reports said he was summoned by king abdullah, who demanded his resignation. the demonstrations were triggered by higher food and fuel prices and proposed income tax hikes. the ceo of starbucks is stepping down. the firm had 11 stores in
seattle when howard schultz joined in 1982, but it now has 28,000 across the globe. schultz says he is considering a range of options for his future, amid talk that he enter politics. maywe are getting more details on the summit between president trump and north korea's kim jong-un. the white house says the meeting will take place at 9:00 a.m. in singapore on tuesday, the 12th of june. for a group of north korean spies living in the south, the encounter could have personal impact. laura bicker reports. laura b.: north korean spies were hunted down in the south. their capture on enemy soil made tv headlines. wishning to others who may to follow. many came by boat to promote the north ideology. one of them was a radio engineer on a north korean spy ship.
now after three decades in a south korean jail, he wants to go home to a family he has not seen since 1962. >> i was very young and very much in love with my family in north korea. we were inseparable and had a lot of fun. despite all that, i came to the south because my country was suffering. in south korean society, you needed to convert your ideology, but since i was not, they kept torturing me for any small reason. laura b.: he helps the talk will result in him being sent home, but he doesn't trust the u.s. he believes they are responsible for dividing the two koreas. >> when you see people go on tv and talk about denuclearization, talk about denuclearization? the foreigners came and divided us and made us fight each other. that is why we created nukes. if they were nice to us and
helped us, why would we create nukes? laura b.: another says he wasn't a spy, but he was jailed for over 30 years anyway. he has a wife and family in the south, and yet he still wants to return to pyongyang. >> i discussed with my family and i told i want to go back. she said, "please go. when good days come, we will meet again." you may say i am brainwashed by socialism, but i am voluntary communists, having built my conviction in jail. laura b.: it is this kind of conviction which worries right-wing nationalists in south korea. they protest every week in seoul, concerned that the north's aim is to unify both koreas under one ruler and communist ideology. >> can you have freedom like this like we have enjoy right now? are the people in north korea as happy as we are? >> north korea is the worst
dictatorship in the world. such kind of dictator cannot keep their promise. laura b.: in truth, south koreans simply want peace, but not one that comes at a cost. over the last 70 years, south koreans have overcome a military dictatorship, become a democracy, and created an economic miracle. even if they get rid of the barb wire at the border, overcoming the social and ideological differences between the two koreas might be far harder. laura bicker, bbc news, seoul. laura: as that high-stakes summit approaches, other countries are reaching out to north korea, too. syria's president assad may be making a visit, and russia's vladimir putin has invited kim jong-un to visit him. -- to come to his place. earlier, my colleagues katty kay and christian fraser spoke to richard haas, president of the
council on foreign relations. they asked him about the russian overtures to north korea for their program "beyond 100 days." richard: the fact that russia , which has voted for several of the security council resolutions tightening sanctions, they are a major power -- they could help us or hurt us in putting pressure on north korea. what i think they are signaling is that the era of pressure is essentially over, and they are joined by china, and funnily enough, probably also by south korea. we are seeing the world accommodating itself to some extent with this "more reasonable and open" north korea. we have not gotten anything in return for it, and that is the danger. the normal diplomacy seems to be getting out in front of any change in north korean behavior. katty: during the on-again, off-again summit process, donald trump made the case that it was china that put north korea off
the idea of a summit and made north korea sound more belligerent again. richard, i read that you are pprochement of some sort with north korecould help the sino-american relationship. that doesn't seem obvious. how would that work? richard: two things -- i never bought the idea that china was responsible for korea toughening its position. i think it reflects that north korea had no interest in going to a summit where we demanded they give up nuclear weapons on day one, and the united states seem to have backed off on that. that round goes to north korea, and i think the united states has accepted the fact that the summit is the beginning of a process, not the end of one. the united states and china, katty -- look, we lost the strategic rationale of our relationship to oppose the soviet union. we lost that decades ago. the economic underpinnings are now frayed, given all the differences between the united states and china. my point simply is that geopolitical cooperation
vis-à-vis north korea may be one day on afghanistan or something to do with pakistan, this provides something of a rationale for the united states and china going forward, and this would be a pretty good demonstration if -- it's a big if, granted -- the united states and china could find a way to come up with a mutually acceptable formula on north korea. laura: that was richard haas, president of the council on foreign relations, speaking earlier. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, he was the president of the united states. now bill clinton makes his debut as a fiction writer, and his first novel is set in the white house. at least 48 migrants have died after their boat capsized off the coast of tunisia. italy's new interior minister has courted controversy after
revealing plans for large-scale removal of illegal immigrants. matteo salvini said tunisia was exporting its convicts to italy. --matteo salvini said italy should stop being the refugee camp of europe. reporter: at this center for migrants who have just arrived in sicily, matteo savlini's message was clear -- enough of this region being the refugee capital of europe, discouraging people coming to italy at all. >> it is not enough to reduce landings. we need to increase expulsions. last year we deported just 7000 immigrants. at this rate, it will take a century. we must open deportation centers at each region, making stronger agreements with countries of origin, and renegotiating italy's role in europe. reporter: this country is the main destination for people crossing the sea from north africa to europe, and many here argue it's placed a strain on the economy. whilst there are those who say refugees and migrants are still
welcome, it seems the voices against are louder. the country's new populist government was sworn in last week having promised a tough line on immigration. across the sea in tunisia, the human cost of trying to make it to europe. a boat filled with migrants capsized off the coast. many didn't survive the rescue. some of those who did were brought to this hospital, and as the community waits for news of loved ones, the trauma for those still walking after being pulled from the sea is clear. but if the danger of the journey is not discouragement enough, the question is if new rules will be.
laura: from president to novelist -- whereas once he wrote his own speeches, no bill -- now bill clinton is trying his hand at fiction. the new book "the president is missing" is about a commander-in-chief dealing with a cyber attack. he drew on his time in the oval office for dramatic effect. our arts correspondent met with mr. clinton and his writing partner, james patterson. reporter: he used to be the most powerful man in the world. and he is the world's best-selling novelist. meet a writing team like no other. mr. clinton: there is an old saying at least in american english that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. i am an old dog and this is a new trick. reporter: at the age of 71, bill clinton got around to fulfilling a lifeti's ambition. mrclinton: iove thrillers. i read huge numbers of them. we met once before, and i have always -- you know, i always wanted to do it, and he was
willing. we started, and that's what happened. james: when you are going to get here is what it would be like to be president under the most extreme circumstances. reporter: the novel sees a fictitious commander-in-chief battling to save the free world from a devastating cyber attack. it is a plot both men say is all too plausible. james: what is happening in north korea is nothing compared to the threat of cyber terrorism. mr. clinton: i hope and pray that this effort with north korea succeeds, not because i think north korea would knock drop a nuclear bomb -- it would be the end of the country, they know that. this cyber threat could kill a lot more people in a lot less time just by shutting down things. reporter: malicious cyberattack are not confined to the pages of fiction. despite the use of electronic voting machines in america, the former president thinks a return to old-fashioned pen and paper is the best way to prevent the democratic process from hacking.
mr. clinton: there's a computer hacking convention held every year in las vegas. the governor of virginia sent his voting machine and expert and it took them six minutes to hack it. they went to per ballots, and nobody complained about the election. they were counted just as quickly. the most important thing is, until we get this straightened out, every state should go to some sort of paper ballot system. reporter: the tv rights have been sold. who should play the president? george clooney? james: that would be good. very good actor. mr. clinton: he looked great at the wedding. not as great as amal did. reporter: do you think he would make a good president? mr. clinton: in the movie? yes. reporter: how much fun was it being president again? mr. clinton: it was a lot of fun. i loved being it the first time.
i'm glad there was a two-term limit because i would have made them carry me out. clinton,om bill novelist, to another first -- the word "lobbyist" may conjure images of backroom deals and long lunches. but one is breaking that mold. she has down syndrome, and she is pushing u.s. politicians to help others like her. we caught up with her on capitol hill. >> hey, how's it going?
especially when they do a backflip. as he performed a move at a denver bar, his agent's gun dropped out of his cell. when he tried to grab it, it went off, hitting another customer and the like. the man is being treated for a non-life-threatening injuries. police are investigating, glad to hear it. i am laura trevelyan. thanks for watching "world news america." >> with the bbc news app, our vertical videos are designed to work around your lifestyle, so you can swipe your way to the news of the day and stay up-to-date with the latest headlines you can trust. download now from selected app stores. >> funding of this presentation is made possible by the freeman foundation, kovler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs, and purepoint financial. >> how do we shape our tomorrow? it starts with a vision. we see its ideal form in our mind, and then we begin to chisel. we strip away everything that stands in the way to reveal new
captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> nawaz: good evening, i'm amna nawaz. judy woodruff is away. on the newshour tonight, the supreme court decides in favor of a baker who refused to make a cake for a same-sex couple-- the court's major ruling explained. then, judy sits down with turkey's foreign minister mevlut cavusoglu as the u.s. and turkey discuss a roadmap for the way forward in syria. and, an inside look into a key primary race: how iowa's democratic battle for a congressional seat could be a defining moment for the party. >> a wave doesn't just happen on its own. we have a unique challenge as democrats to provide a path forward. >> nawaz: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.