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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, ll >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: the u.s. department of justice indicts 12 russian intelligence officers for interference in the 2016 election, just days before president trump's meeting with president putin. then, mr. trump tries to dese tensions with british prime minister theresa may, after critizing her handling of britain's exit from the european union. and, it's friday mark shields and reihan salaman are here tyze a packed week of news. plus: ♪ ♪ >> woodruff: uncovering the hol graiof jazz. more than five decades later, music lovers get a new album of lost recordings by jazz legend john coltrane. >> he had complete mastery of
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returna federal grand jury in washington. >> i would call it the witch hunt. i would call it the rigged witch hunt. >> woodruff: while president trump spent part of his day in europe condemning the russia probe, rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general of the unit states, met cameras bac in washington, to announce yet more charges in the investigation. >> the indictment charges 12 russian military officers by name for conspiring to interfere with the 2016 presidential election. >> woodruff: the indictment formally alleges that a dozen russian intelligence officials cked into the computers of the clinton campaign, the democratic party, and state election officials, and staged the public n.lease of damaging informat the indictment does not charge that russians changed the outcome of thenolection that any americans knowingly corresponded with ssian officials. he>> we need to work togetr to hold the perpetrators
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accountable. when we confront foreign interference in american ections, it is important for us to avoid thinking politically, as republicans or democrats, and instead to think patriotically as america. >> woodruff: the announcement comes just three days before president trump is set to meet in finland, one-on-one, with russia's president vladimir putin. today on capitol hill, democrats sharply questioned if that meeting should still take placei senate intnce vice chairman mark warner: >> if president trump and his team are not willing to make the facts of this indictment a top priority at their meeting in helsinki, the summit should be canceled. >> woodruff: and adam schiff, the ranking member of the house intelligence committee: >> let's not add insult to injury to our allies by having a thvey-dovey meeting betwee president of the united states and the man responsible for just hacking into our elections. >> woodruff: president trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani,
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celebrated the announcement, tweeting, ime for mueller to end this pursuit of the president." the white house echoed that sentiment, adding that the did not name anyone on the trump campaign. for a closer look at these indictments, and the questions still unanswered about t investigations into election interference, i'm joined by asha rangappa. she's a former f.b.i. agent who specialized in counter- intelligence investigations. she is now a lecturer at yalesi univ. asha rangappa, welcome to the "newshour". what is your main takeaway from these indictments returned today? >> i think there are two big takeways from the indictment. the first is these are the firsr s we're seeing from mueller that is directly supporting the i.c. assessment that russia as nation state hacked into the d.n.c. email server, weaponized the information and tried to fluence the election and went further than that, went intost
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e boards of elections and took voter data. we had indictmts of russia's before, but those weren't directly tied to russian intelligence. there were links, but these are russian military intelligence officers. the other big takeway is that mueller is going after the russians, andhis is important because, ultimately, this is a counterintelatgence investn and, under the special counsel regulations under which he's appointed, he does haven't the authority to create a public report to congress so these indictments are, in a way, a vehicle for him to let the public know exactly how russia executed its covert operation in their election meddling efforts. >> woodruff: i think some meople are looking at this and saying, well, nocans were named. the trump white house, the president,he people around the president are pointing that out, nte president's personal lawyer rudy giuliani p that out. it's as if they're saying, well, this is just something t
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russians did, americans weren't involved. >> that's true, there aren'tan amers directly charged in this indictment, but, judy, we need to remember that indictments can be superseded, whicemeans they can b amended to include new defendants, and it's important to note there are conspiracy charges in this dictment, conspiracy to commit computer crimes, so anyone who coulde a part of that conspiracy, meaning they knew what was going on and did even one act, can be added. so we know there's a reporter that might be in contact, person running for u.s. congress who was soliciting some information, d a senior trump official who was in contact. whether this was knowing or no will ke a huge difference, but i think it doesn't mean that it's the end of the story on this particular set of allegations. >> woodruff: so, in words, even though these 12 individuals, these intelligence officers may never be brought to justice, it's hard to believe the russians would willingly
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turn these people over. yo're sayng this is still signifis nt? >> thissolutely still significant. you know, in the world of intelligence, you typically don't lay out for your adversary that younowhat you've uncovered. you don't want to lay your cards on the table, and it's actually a risk for muell because, in the previous indictment with russians, the companies that were conductihe disinformation campaign, they have fought back in court, and this places mueller in a position of having to reveal in discovery how he obtained this information which can give ssia a heads-up on our and methods. so i think he has decided it is very important for the public to know exactly what occurred and how it occurred in order for them to understand the threat thatigtherwise be invisible. >> woodruff: asha rangappa, can we tell from looking at these indictments returned today how much more there is, how much
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a part of the bigger puzzle do we now have completed at this point? >> so, there are several threads to what we have been referring to as russia's active measures. there's the disinformation campaign where there have been indictments, there is this w hacking effoch now there are indictments, there may be a campaign finance violations for which there may bin dimes, and then -- may be indictments, and then i think the question is who he russians? it would be highly unusual for a foreign intelligence service to be able to execute something in the united states without on the ground helping them. now, those could be russian agents, they could be u.s. persons, but i would be surprised if thereer weren't o people that were eventually named in assisting or facilitating russia in helping to carry out what i a very elaborate campaign to meddle in our election. >> woodruff: meaning could be
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americans named? >> it could be americans,te abso. >> woodruff: unanswered questions -- what do you still want to know? what should we be looking for unsel to tellal us the next time there is an indictment returned, if there is one? >> well, i think what i am curious about in light of this most recent set of indictments is whatns this m in terms of some of the actions and contacts inhe trump campaign. for example, the trump tower meeting which was initiated by an offer of e-mails or dirt onto hillary cl which we now know is linked back to russian intelligence. there is also communicanaons between trump, jr. and roger stone with wikileaksam which it's as organization one, but it's in the indictment as coordinating with ssian intelligence. again, these could be unknowing
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or unwting but i think there is more scrutiny on why these dcontacts have beenied. then, i think, judy, there is the very puzzling call out during the debate by then candidate trump for russia to hack into hillary clinton's i mails and then in the indictment there was one attempt on that evening. timing, coincidence, wit org not, i think all those things will take on more scrutiny and there are more questions on timing and what people knew. >> wdruff: so qui, does this tell us this is about to wrap up soon, or not? >> i don't think this is close to wrapping up at all. in fact, i think what this shows is mueller is investigating a number of different fronts, he is proceeding full speed ahead on all of them, he even preparing for trial for manafort now. so i think for those who think this could wrap up before midterm elections, i think they will beappointed. >> woodruff: asha rangappa, we
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thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: news of the indictments came as president trump was in britain. but his visit to one of america's closest friends was greeted by a storm of protesters, and a storm he created over his potshots at british leaders. ryan chilcote begins our coverage. >> reporter: this was the picture president trump had long sought: an audience with queen elizabeth. a military honor guard standing at attention at windsor castle, followed by tea with the 92-year-old monarch. but the courtly scene followed a day of chaos, after mr. trump lobbed a volley of verbal grenades squarely at british prime minister theresa may. in an interview conducted with the "suntabloid before he arrived, the president said may botched britain's leaving the european uon.
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and, he warned, that's endangered a potential trath deal witunited states. >> i did give theresa-- who i like-- i did give her my views don what she shouand how she should negotiate. and she didn't follow those views. i'd actually say she even went the opposite way. no, it'll definitely affect trade with the united states, elunfortunin a negative way. >> reporter: the broadside struck a prime minister already weakened by resignatio from her government this week over brexit. mr. trump even praised one of those who quit, former foreign secretary boris johnson, aa potential prime minister. he's said to covet the job. on the heels of those headlines, the president arrived midday at chequers, the prime minister's ndretreat outside . after a meeting and lunch with may, both leaders took questions. >> i didn't criticize the prime ster. i have a lot of respect for the prime minister. >> reporter: the president played down his explosive comments to the "sun" with a now-familiar tactic.
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>> unfortunately, there was a story that was done, which was,w you generally fine, but it didn't put in what i said about the prime minister, and i said tremendous torngs. but we rwhen we deal with reporters. it's called fake news. >> reporter: as far as may was concerned-- publicly, at least-- it was much ado about nothing. >> we agreed today that as the u.k. leaves the european union, we will pursue an ambitious u.s.-u.k. free trade agreement. >> reporter: mr. trump had also an migration policy in the tabloid interview; today, he and may sharply diverged on its value. >> i just think it's changing the culture. i think it's a very negative thing for europe. anoti know it's politically, necessarily correct, to say that, but i'll say it and i'll say it loud. and i think they better watch themselves, because you are changing culture, you are changing a lot of things, you're changing security. and that's the way i feel. >> the u.k. has a proud history of welcomingeople who are
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fleeing persecution to our country. we have a proud history of welcoming people who want to come to our country, to contribute to our economy and contribute to our society. >> reporter: having already denounced the "sun" interview as "fake news"-- though it was his voice, recorded and distributed by the paper-- the president also blasted nbc news and cnn: >> cnn is fake news. i don't take questions from cnn. john roberts of fox. let's go to a real-- let's go to a real network. or>> repr: the white house correspondents association issued a response, that read, in part, "saying a news organization isn't real doesn't change the facts and won't stop dous from g our jobs." president trump meets monday with vladimir putin, but he argued, the russian president will not focus on the turmoil he caused at a tense nato meeting yesterday morning in brussels. >> the headline he sees is what happened in the afternoon, where we came together as one, weyre, where th're putting up billions of dollars more. do you think putin's happy about that?
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i don't think so. >> particularly following th nato summit, the president is going into this meeting with president putin from that position of strength. >>eporter: after the second, raucous press conference in two days, mr. trump declared his verdict on thetate of u.s.- u.k. relations. >> i would say the highest level of special. am i allowed to go-- am i allowed to go higher than that? i'm not sure, but 's the highest level of special. >> reporter: but there was no praise for london's mayor, siq khan, who is muslim. in the "sun" interview, the president blamed him for terrorism in the british capital, linking it to >> take a look at the terrorism that's taking place, look at what's going on in london. i think he's done a terrible job. >> immigration has brought huge oubenefits tcity and our country, economically, socially and culturally, and it's really important that we stand up for those values that we hold dear. >> reporter: and in london today, a floating incarnation of the disgust many britons feel about this visit: a 20-foot-tall caricature of mr. trump as a diaper-wearing baby, phone held in hand.
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tens of thousands marched in the >> i am fed up with the way trump is trying to manipulate the world into his, well, almost nazi heews. he thinks right on everything. >> reporter: it's just the latest such protest since he took office, and, mr. trump told d in felt "unwelcome" in london. athe feelinarently for many here, was mutual. >> woodruff: and ryan chilcote joins me now from london. ryan, now that president trump has flown to scotland to spend the weekend at his golf clu is there a consensus there on the impact this visit will have. >> look, i think from the ime minister's perspective, i think this was probably a worst case scenario. while theresa may may not have expected the president to support publiclyer path that she's chosen for taking the united kingdom out of the european union, the so-called soft brexit, she definitely would have been looking for him to very publicly endorse the idea that, once the u.k. leaves
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the european union, it's biggest trade partner, it could definitely have a ve soli trade relationship and free trade deal with the united states. the question is what kind of influence does president trump have here in the u.k.? you know, he prime minister, you could say, but will he really change the potical landscape when i comes to the almost existential question of how the u.k. exits the european union. and i think the answer to that is maybe not so much because, after all, if you think aboa ut itt of the people that support a real hard break, theg u.k. makhard break with the european union, members of the conservative pay in this country, well, they're actually, politically speaking a bit further for the left than, say, the republicans in the united states. in my ways,hey're more like the democrats in the united states. who will embolden the marginal powers in the united states, the people who aren't in the seat of wer behind me here, but it's
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not entirely clear he will be able to bring wn the prime minister with the interview he game before herrived here or if he's going to be able to change the course of how the country exits the european union. >> woodruff: is it fair to say europeans see a difference in the president's approach to pulitzer prize this year versus last year? >> you know, i ttnk that w they have found is that his approach to foreign policy is quite similar. last year, of course, they were a little bit surprised. i think they're less surprised now, and i think the takew here is, tactically, they believe that the president, when he is speaking publicly, thinks it's proprietary and effective to publicly criticie others, even allies, whether they're allies at n.a.t.o. or here in the u.k., you know, the prime minister's government, while playing nice and saying nice things at the same time. o they've sortf decided or learned that that is how he operates.
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beyond that, i think that there's also a feeling that, at the end of the day, this president sttegically speaking, is really motivated bi staste for the european union. that was very clear when he wasa at.o. he talked a lot about trade, the e.u. being unfair when it comes trade when iteals with the united states and even in the u.k., many will seeis criticism to have a soft break, keep many to have the elements in tact, many will see that becaushe wants to make the e.u. weaker. >> woodruff: ryachilcote, covering from london. thank you, ryan. >> thank you, >> woodruff: we return now to the u.k. and what the president's visit means for the transatlantic relathionship, and his meetg on monday with russia's president vladimir putin. john yang has that. >> yang: judy, for perspective on this, here's longtime u.s. diplomat nick burns, former ambassador to nato and
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former under-secretary of state for political affairs. mr. burns, welcome. this -- theresa may was the first foreign leader to visit president trump at the white house after his inauguration. his trip to london is something by all accounts w he reallyted to happen. now that it happened and now th this is what he did on this first visit, what do you make of thn,? >> well, jt's hard to think of a more chaotic a disputacious president to landon or a n.a.t.o. ally as the hapresident ha before he met theresa may, he started a fight with angela merkel, threatened to lave the n.a.t.o. alliance at one point during the n.a.t.o. meeting, he micertainly tried to unde the european union. then this explosiventerview in the sun, the tabloid newspaper. theresa may is trying to put a brorit proposalrd that might incite a rebellion in the
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conservative party. the president came out against it. he camns out ag her strategy. he came out in support of her greatest foe boris johnson, and this was a direct attack on the prime minister, andte deshat the president said in his press conference today, trying to roll back his statements, this was the real donald trump in that sun interview. >> he said, as you say, he praised boris johnson, said d boris johnson wobe a great prime minister. the strongest he went on mrs. may is she's a fine woman, she's a good woman. what has he done to her tipol chances domestically in britain? t president's ideological kindred in the u. politics would be the conservatives who are in favor of a tough, hard brexit, as they call it, a complete separation to have the united kingdom from the european union. vithe prime minister' sit has to be a softer brexit, meaning some ties have to remain
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in order to even sure the success of the british economy. the president directly emboldent her strongest critics. e imag theresa may came into the white house, into the rose garden a said publicly with the president standing beside her, i think that jeff flake, john corker or john kasich would make a great president of the united states, our president would be furious. that's what trump did to her twice. so the president directly intervene in british politics in the most unhelpful way. hihe's done the sameg with the german chancellor, two female leaders, which has the tention of a lieutenant people in europe who thinks he does pick on female leaders, and e these are o closest friends the united states has in the world, germany and the kunitgdom. >> you talked about what he did in brussels, now inondon. next stop helsinki, where he heets vladimir putin, and today's indictment from the
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justice department, the strongest evidence yet of direct russian government trying to meddle.n the u.s. electio what does this do to this meeting? >> it makes it absolutly necessary, if there is going to be a meeting, donald trump cannot just ask the queson. at's what he said today, he said i'llsk president putin if he'll intervene. he needs tow k a federal grand juror indicted 12 russian intelligenicials today, the grand jury said there's a conspiracy to undermine our prelection. thident has to make the case to putin that this will not happen again, that the united statesill maintain or increase sanctions against russia andur ene others to do that. he has to defend us. his primary jobas commander-in-chief is to defend the country. there's been an attack on our electoral system from our greatest adversary. if he goes in and says i will
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ask him but i don't expect an answer, he has to be strong and not weak, but he has bn very weak in front of president putin in several times they m the last months. he's side said over and over again he wants to have a great adrelationship with ir putin. can he do that and defend the united states? >> you know, the point of diplomacy is to get our way internationally and to defend our , untry. addition to the russian interference in our electionth there' russian u.k. nerve agent attack, a btish woman lost her life last week because of the aack. there's the fact russia crossed the brightths red line by invading and an exing crimea. there are u.s. sanctionn russian imposed by congress over these b objections to russia's actions, and the president has to understand s going to
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maintain political support in the country, the respect ofur allies and even president putin, he has to be tougher than putin. it is notenough to say that we just want to get along with a person who's trying to undermine our country. we have efeat that person, block that person and do everytng we can to protect our own country. that's what ronald reagan would have done, that's at any american president before donald trump would have done. >> former ambassador nick burns, thank you very much. >> thank you, john. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, bombings rocked election rallies in pakistan, killing at least 130 people and wounding more than 300 others. the worst attack was in the southwest, where victims included a candidate for aov prcial legislature. islamic state militants claimed responsibility. ormeanwhile,r prime minister nawaz sharif and his daughter
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faturned to the country, t prison terms for corruption. hanother american soldi died in afghanistan, the second u.s. combat death this week. pentagon officials say an army seeant was killed yesterday in a firefight. about 15,0 american troops are now stationed in afghastan. police in britain say they have located the source of a nerve agent that killed that woman and sickened her partner, as john referred to. after an allut search, they found a bottle in the woman's home that tested positive for novichok. it is unclear where the bottle came from. last march, a former russian spy and his daughter were poisoned with novichok in a nearby town. britain blames russia, but t kremlin denies it. the united nations security council imposed an arms embargo on south sudan today. the u.s.-drafted resolution received nine yes votes, the
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minimum required for adoption. ambassador nikki haley said it is a vital step to ending the five-year civil war. >> the goal of this resolution is simple. o if we're goinglp the people of south sudan, we need and to stop the violence, we need to stop the flow of weapons to armed groups, that they're htusing to fach other and to terrorize the people. >> woodruff: there have been several attempts at cease-fires in south sudce 2015, including one last month. all have failed. the u.n.'s migration agency announced today that algeria has halted the mass expulsions of imigrantsnto the sahara desert. last month, the associated press hareported13,000 were dropped off at thegeorders with and mali, over 14 months. d,now, they're being h instead, in crowded jails. it is an effort to stop them e.om heading north, to eur back in this country, the inspector general for th
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u.s. department of health and human services says former secretary tom price misspent $341,000 otravel. that includes booking charter flights and military aircraft, haratherusing commercial airlines. price was forced out last fall, after reports of his travel spending surfaced. the u.s. commerce department has formally lifted a seven-year ban on u.s. companies selling parts to chinese telecom giant zte. the trump administration imposed the ban for violating sanctions on iran and north korea. then, it agreed to a settlement that included a $1 billion fine. d, on wall street, the dow jones industrial average gained 94 points to close at 25,019. the nasdaq rose two points, and the s&p 500 added three. for the week, the dow gained 2%. the nasdaq and the s&p 500 rose more tha c1.5%. still e on the newshour:
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mark shields and reihan salam analyze president trump's chaotitrip to europe. and, the lost music of jazz great john coltrane. >> woodruff: it has been a busy week in politics, hero at home and . for more, we turn to the analysis of shields and salaat that is synd columnist mark shields, and "national review" executive editor reihan salam. and david brooks is away. we welcome both of you. what a week, mark. let's start with the special counsel returning these indictments today, sweeping indictment saying the russians were bind a conspiracy to not arly hack into the computers of hiclinton's campaign, the democratic national committee, but to go into state voting systems. how significant is this?
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>> it's quite significant, judy, and traces it right back to the ssian government. i know we're talking about 12 12 intelligence agents on russianag espiassociated with the russian military with g.r.u., their official agency. i talk about a witch hunt oryt ng of the sort. it turns out that monday in helsinki will be a campaign reunion of sorts for donald trump and his favorite absentee voter. i don't think there is any question of russintan involveme has grown as a real likelihood, just not a possibility. >> woodruff: how serious should the american people take >> very seriously. one problem, however, is we really need to get to the bottom of this is an independent commission. after the 9/11 terror attacks,yo afteu had a spade of urban rioting in this untry, we had serious independent commission
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that had bipartisan credibility that tried to get toto the b of our vulnerabilities, what went wrong, which systems were vulnerable, d then tried to find solutions for those problems. the problem now is we are notng treahis as a national emergency wrerks treating this as a partisan investigation, and ai think that's beeroblem from the start. we really need an independent condission tostand our vulnerabilities. >> woodrf: mark, is this investigation credible and rtisan? >> the partisan angle is solely on the part of the administration and republicans in congress. there is not a partisan corpuscle in bob mueller's system. there really isn't. this is a man whoas been a republican, appointed by a republican president, whose waappointmenwidely lauded from republicans, including newt gingrich across the board. any lack of credibility or erosion of confidence is solely as a part of the concentrated effort from the administration.
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>> woodruff: by reihan, you're seeing it differently? >> i do. part of the issue is there aren't necessarily prosecutable crimes at work. what we're dealing with is a larger systemic failure.ee when you'reg it solely through the lens of who can and can't be prosecuted you might miss somof the vulnerabilities, and if you treat it purely as a prosecutionle system, you may not see this is an attack on our mocratic system that necessitates new tools that go well beyond a prosecutor's case. >> woodruyff: well, that grow from this, but, in thenn beg, robert mueller, the people he was appointed by, as mark just said, there sayin this is somebody who's independent. >> oh, i think that robert mueller deserves a great deal of respect, i think that's absolutely true, but that doesn't change the fact that he's working in a process that may itself be a broken process. i do not questin his integrity.
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i question whether this is the right approach to deal with a national attack on our democracy. >> the great urban investigations occurred after national riots, after 9/11 was after a national catastrophe when our country was attacke and there was not a consensus, there was unanimity in they cound led by the administration in both cases. the democrats in the first and the republicans under george w. bush in the second. so the idea that a president who has denied anythig, has refuted the conclusions of the intelligence agencies and the senate intelligence committee chaired by republican richard burr of north carolina is not going to be plausible as someone who would lead or appoint such a commission. >> i really do think that the perception that this is about nsically hunting d potential perpetrators within the trump thatign and what have you has taken us away from thinking
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of this as a general attack on our democracy, onur institutions, and i think had we taken a different approach, hada we seen it way from the get-go, you might have gotten more buy-in from supporters of the president who n't necessarily think this is fair and square. >> nobody knows what bob mueller is doing. he is full of fastidiousness and secrecy. >> he deserves a great deal of credit. >> he does. >> woodruff: in terms of what's going on now, this comes a couple of daysre the president is due to be in helsinki meeting one on oneith president putin, mark. what should the president say to vladimir putin in this, meetin and should this meeting go ahead? some democrats are saying ild she canceled now. >> i think it should go ahead. i don't think there should be any one on one private meetings with the two off the record. i think n what we hav is a president who needs to confront the soviet adversary an say to him 12 of your own agents in a
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government that you control, that you lead have been dicted, i want them extradited to the united states to stand triaha >> woodruff:do you think the president should say, and are you comfortable with the president meing with president putin one on one? >> look, i'm not comfortable with the fact that we're having this summit meetihout the months and sometimes years of prepn you typically have before such a meeting, but what we do know the donald trump promised diplomatic breakthroughs, hmised to be a different kind of president and that's why he's pursuing the very different path. i'm very concerned about one thing in pditicular, vr putin is going to want to offer a big diplomatic breakthrough to donald t the question is lit be consummate with ngthe erm interests of the united states, particularly if you look at sir can't president trump a president putin did actually manage to broker deals in syria that looked promising, let's deescalate the conflict. the russians have not delivered on their ee nd of rgain.
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so now if the russians make big promises, the president needs to be sure that the russians are verifiabng to deliver. he should not make promises the russians not goi be willing to take up their end of the bargain on. >> woodruff: mark are you confident he will handle this? >> no, we did get disarmament of north korea, the president told us this happened, but it hasn't en verified yet. he likes the big moment, the spotlight. donald trump, i think it's fair to say, if you remove the firstn peingular from his vocabulary -- i, me, mine -- it would be calvin coolidge. it's all about donald trump. we saw that, judy, in the n.a.t.o. meeting when he goes in and cuts the knees off of prime minister theresa ma under assault and siege at home, and laudsnc her pple competitor boris johnson and
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recommends him p fime minister by saying what? he likes me, he says gd things about me, and that's the recommendation. >> forgive me for turning to russia for oneoment. one thing we should not forget is for the last 18 months theun ed states government and the trump administration has actually put in place sanctions against russian oligarchs, hardened n.a.t.o.'s eastern frank, has taken many steps that are, in fact, very tough on the russns. when you look at the substance of his agenda. so we can't lose sight of the fact when it comes to policies, trump haministratiobeen tough on russia. >>druff:. >> woodruff: so what about the records praising vladimir >> donald trump believes you need to be tough on one hand but create an opening for possible diplomatic breakthroug i suggest with president putin, he needs to be cautious but the
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substas been hawkish over the last few months. >> saying crimea is primarily a russian ethnic country which is exactly the pointse m by putin and the russian government after the invasion and occupation of crimea, has been -- >> he's also in ukraine with anti-tank weapons. >> the fact is theulrk against russian soviet sm interventionism has been n.a.t.o., and he has weakened nate o. he has sabotaged his own partners. >> woodruff: what is the legacy, reihan, of the president's actions over the last few days with the n.a.t.o. allies and then in great britain with theresaay? >> over the last few days there has been a lot of consternation with our allies, our leaders feel backed in corner and don't like it. if you look at the trump
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presidency, it is true the n.a.t.o. military allies boostep theiding, you talk about permanent structured cooperation, building up capabilities long termet the threat from russia and north africa. u have a you were that is more formidable and capable now.go they're noing to acknowledge this or that it's donald trump who's driven tob that,ut he's played a role in spurring them on. >> woodruff: you y he deserves credit for what's going on in europe and with theresa may?hi >> no, i that the president should definitely not be as undiplomatic as he has been, he should be more magnanimous, but i think you have to look at the substance as well as the rhetoricwhat's going on. when you look at the substance, it makes me feel better abo what i don't feel great about which is he really hasn't been as tactful and constructive with our european allies when it comes to rhetoric as he might be. >> the world did notbegin with donald trump. the defense budgets had been on nde increase before donald trump came they've continued to
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be. but the reality is that there's no reason in the world nat any european country should be devote the same percentage of nationalse that we do. poey're not global powers. ugal doesn't have installations on five different continue nantz. i don't aknow if do trump appreciates the fact that ramson air force base is theey kn germany that we can't move base bothaly and in turkey as well. i mean, this has been a cooperat that the only time in the history of n.a.t.o. that article 5, mutual defense had been invoked was september 13, 2001, that the united states was attacked. e are graves in latvia, lithuania,al portugspain and sweden of young swedes and soldiers who fought for the united states in afghanistan under the n.a.t.o. banner.
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you know, donald trump doesn't seem to understand that, and it's weakened that coalition, quite frankly. >> i see this a bit differently. if you're looking at europe ght now, europe faces tremendous vulnerabilities, particularly froma subaran africa, north africa, and thatcr migratiois stand in part from the security vulnerabilities, that is why europe is stepping up also, whether they acknowledge it or not, it's partly because donalda trumput the sleight on the fact that we haven't always had equitable burned sharing. this is not issue only raised by donald trump, was raised by barack oma and predecessors, but donald trump cerebral has e and i believe there has been a meaningful response from governments on the left and rightur acrosse. >> i just say all politics in ocal.inal analysis is what goes around comes around. donald trump has taken bh angela merkel and theresa may at times of political vulnerability
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domestically and attacked them and really stuck a knife into them, and i will be honest with you, when he does go after them, they're going to have to go back to their home constituencies, establish they independent from him, to a oert their independence and autonomy. the alliance is weakenet it is no cooperative, cleanle alliance. >> let's not forget donald trump, when he said critical things aboutheresa may, he apologized and, instead of doubling down, he said, in fact, is is an incredibly vital and important relationship, and i absolutely want atrade agreement with the u.k. it is very rare for donald trump to not d doublen to, actually say, hey, i'm going to take a step back, and thathows there is more than one dimension to the figure who's often caricatured. >> he denied, said it was fake news and was ong tape say what he said. >> he's off the cuff and that's a challenge but that's why he
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has been able to shake things f:up. >> woodre may not be able to resolve this all today. thank you, mark shields, reihan salam. >> woodruff: lost recordings from one of the greats of jazz, now found. jeffrey brown visited john coltrane's recording studio, where the mysterbegan. the recently-discovered music gives coltrane-- more than 50 years after his death-- his highest-ever debut on worldwide chartsnd in sales. >> 11382, 11383, original, take one. ♪ ♪ >> brown: a famed recording studio. one of the greatest jazz
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ensembles ever. a beautiful blast back to music made on a single day in marc 1963. ♪ ♪ here at the van gelder studio in englewood cliffs, new jersey, a group of critics, family members, and music executives gathered recently to hear a lost recording by saxophonist john coltrane and other members of his classic quartet: pianist mccoy tyner, bassist jimmy garrison and drummer elvin jones. among them, ravi coltrane, john's sonhimself a highly-regarded sax player. >> it's like discovering a buried treasure. i hear him basically with one foot in the past and one foot sort of aiming toward his future. >> brown: thushe title of a new release of seven tunes, which ravi helped produce: "both directions at once: the lost album." >> the record contains a lot of material that cod have easily ended up, you could easily hear it in recordings that he could have made five years earlier. you know, blues and bebop tunes,
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combined with momo modal pieces, experimental pieces that he would eventually get to later, in '64nd '65. it's a timeless group. we're still talking about these players, and we're sll talking about this band, decades later. >> brown: john coltrane waa titan, one of the most influential musicians of the 20th century, in jazz or any other genre. he first made his name in the mid-1950s. growing more and more assured, innovating constantly, trying new sounds, he reached jazz lovers with recordings such as ces 1960 album, "giant steps," and a wider audiith hits like his version of "my favorite things," released a year later. >> he had complete mastery of the repertoire of jazz, and he's
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taking that repertoire and the style into a whole other realm. we're still seeing the relevance of his music now. >> brown: ken druker is an ngecutive with verve records, which is releahe music on the impulse label so closely associated with coltrane. he says the saxoe onist was at ak of his powers during these sessions. on you have a favorite son this? >> i love the track that opens, the rontically titled "11383," just because of the energy, immediately from t first note. ( ♪ "11383" ) >> there are tracks on this album that are mraight ahead. ( ♪ "vilia" ) >> there's a lot of blues. ( ♪ "slow blues" ) >> but then there are al compositions that are a little
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more searching. ( ♪ "one up, one down" ) >> brown: just how this music was lost in the first place is something of a mystery. coltrane was recording a lot at the time. he and the band were back here the very next day to make an album with singer hartman that would become a classic. they were also at the end of a two-week run at the famed birdland club in manhattan. the march 6th session, capturing some of that live feel in the studiorecorded on both a "master" and "reference" tape-- the latter for coltranto take home the master was lost. coltrane's personal tape turned up years later with the family of his first wife, naima ken druker and others heard the music for the first time last dember. you had heard the recording outside the studio, and then you came here.
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what happened? >> i came in here, walked in this area right there, where the band would havbeen set up. and the music was played through ppe speakers, and i just s in my tracks. it was literly spine-tingling. it was as if the band was here playing. >> brown: the "here" is also an important part of jazz history: the secluded van gelder studio is hallowed ground, where the likes of duke ellington, dizzy gillespie, herbie hancock and manys recorded albums. rudy van gelder, who died in 2016, actually began recording jazz in his parents' hn hackensack. op made a living as an metrist first, before turning to recording full-time, when he built this gorgeous studio-- designed by david henken, a protege of frank lloyd wright-- in 1959. attracted by the van gelder "sound," the jazz greats kept crossing the hudson. the studio even served as a setting for famous album covers: the staircase.
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vent. the ailing outside. >> march 6, 1963. >> brown: coltrane session, 2-4, 1-4. maureen sickler worked for 30 years as van gelder's assistant sound engineer. she showed me the appointment book he kept to track his busy reg schedule, including that day in 1963. did he say where his love of jazz came from? >> what he led most about it was the improvisatory part. he liked that they were creating on t fly. he heard records when he was a kid and teager made by the big companies and he said, i can do better than that. it should sound better. >> brown: all these years later, only pianist mccoy tyner of the original group is still alive, and still performing, that very night at manhattan's blue note club, where he recalled the magic of those days. >> it was unbelievable.
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i can't even describe how it was. he used to practice a lot. anyou know, he did his worit made him stronger. i learned a lot working with john. >> brown: john coltrane went on to make his groundbreaking "a love supreme," in 1965, and from there ventured d rther into an ever-freer realm of jazz that ope new possibilities for music. he died in 1967 of liver cancer at just 40rs old, but his influence continues to be felt, including on son, ravi, who was not quite two when his father died. >> it's kind of mind blowingo think of how much work he was able to create in ten years. it hard to know why john coltrane's music hits, why it hits us deeply. it's hard to alway why the music is as effective and as powerful as it is. but somehow it translates.
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his message translates and the power of his conviction really comes through. ♪ ♪ >> brown: for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffery brown at the van gelder studio in englewood cliffs, new jersey. >> woodruff: on the newshour online right now: turninhe universe, when a galaxy gets pulled into a black hole, it can create an intense beam of high-energy radiation, called a blazar. this week, a team of physicists udied this phenomenon announced a discovery that could help trace the foundations of the universe. you can read all about it on our website, www.pbs.org/newshour. and ne in later tonight to g more of your politics fix on "washington week,"robert costa.
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and ow on pbs newshour weekend: how living shorelines could combat rising sea vels. >> sreenivasan: are you surprised at how fast it's taken? >> shocked. shocked. we just had to protect the shoreline a little bit, to give a chance for these arasses to gaoothold. this isn't just grass d some reefs-- this thing is teeming with life. >> sreenivasan: gs of oyster shells create a whole new habitat for marine life. what kind of ts do you see here? >> oh my gosery kind of crab you can imagine. we've got hermit crabs, stone crabs, blue crabs, fiddler crabs, marsh crabs. i sound like that guy from "forrest gump" with the shrimp, but it's me with the crabs! >> woodruff: that is tomorrow night on pbs newshour weekend.
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