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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, more than 500 migrant childrestill s parated from their parents three weekter a court- ordered deadline to reunite them. l en, time is running out for a brexit dat could ease the pain of the u.k. leaving the european union >> british consumers have become used to getting the food that they want, the quality that they want, at the price they want when they want it. an. the problem we have that a no-deal brexit would put those sensitive supply chains at risk >> woodruff: and it's friday. mark shields and david brooks analyze the president's decision to revoke the former c.i.a. director's security clearance, plus the rest of the week's news. all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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of these institu and friends of the newshour. >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: president trump says a crent u.s. justice department official may be next to lose his security clearance. bruce ohr had contacts with a former british agent who compiled a dossier on mr. trump's ties to russia during the 2016 campaign. the agent was hired by the firm fusion gps, where ohr's wife woed for a time. today, as he left washington for the weekend, the president
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brought up ohr's security ruearance. >> i think bce ohr is a disgrace. i suspect i'll be taking it away very quickly. bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife, nellie. der him to be in the justice rtment and to be doing what dr did, that is a disgrace. >> wf: mr. trump already tovoked the clearance of former c.i.a. dirjohn brennan. he said today that decision got what he called "tremendous response." but last night, 13 former ranking intelligence officials of both parties denounced it as a clear attempt to stifle free speech. analysts signedletter of their own saying former officials should be able to speak freely "without fear of being punished." the president also defended his former campaign chairman paul manafort again as a good man. a federal jury in alexandria,
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virginia, has deliberated two days on bank and tax fraud charges against him without woaching a verdict. mr. trumd not say whether he'd pardon manafort if he's convicted. a dispute between the u.s. and turkey heated up again today. uresident trump warned of new action after ash court refused to free an american pastor being held on terror charges. the u.s.lready imposed higher tariffs on turkish metals, but turkey's trade minister argued ede trump policy is misguided. >> ( transl ): we are witnessing the united states mixing political issues and econic cooperation issues without regard to sensitivity. and this not only is negatively affecting growth of the american economy, but also the global economy. >> woodruff: today's renewed wnnsions sent the turkish lira gain. it's lost nearly 40% of its value against the dollar this year. the u.s. has slapped new
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financial and travel sanctions myanmar's security forces over a violent campaign against rohingya muslims. today's announcement accused the buddhist natios military of massacres, rape and other abuses. it targeted two miliry army units and four commanders. more than 70000 rohingya have fled to neighboring bangladesh in theast year. the state department says it's redirecting $230 million meant for stabilization efforts in syria. the money had been frozen and ntder review since last march. a state departpokeswoman buid the cut was offset by increased contons from coalition partners in the fight against the islamic state and she insisted the u.s. was not "lesse syria.s commitments in iraq's military says it killed 28 islamic state militants in a pair of airstrikes inside syria yesterday. the targets were near the iraqi border. security officials say one of
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the strikes targeted a gathering of would-be suicide bombers who planned to attack iraq next week. sa genoa, italy, officials now five people are still missing after a deadly bridge collapse. 38 people died in tuesday's disaster. funerals began today at the town's convention center. genoa's roman catholic bishop id the city is strugglin >> ( getranslated ): this br belonged to our everyday life for us genoese. we would cro it every day as it used to link the two parts of the city. today, for example, i went to buy the newspaper, went to church to pray, to a coffe with a friend, and everybody talks about what happened. so, it really is a wound for the whole community because it is a part ous. >> woodruff: a state funeral for the victims is scheduled for saturday. back in this country, the pentagon says there won't be a military parade in wasn,
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d.c., this fall, after all. last night's announcement followed news that the parade could cost $92 million, three times the initial estimate. in aweet today, president trump criticized what he called a"ridiculously high" cost he blamed city officials in washington. tey called it ourtrageous. on wall streay, the dow jones industrial average gained 110 points to close at 25,669; the nasdaqose ten points to close at 7,816; and the s&p 500 added nine points to close at 2,850. still to come on the newshour: why hundreds of migrant children are still separated frheir families; the vatican speaks out tiout allegations of syste buse; what's at stake if the u.k. can't make a brexit deal; and much more.
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>> woodruff: a story we've devoted to a lot of time in the past weeks, the plaight of children taken and separated from parents at u.s. border officials as they enter the u.s. amna nawaz has the update. >> reporter: the latesyenumbers fileerday in court by the trump administration showed that of the 2,654 immigrant children separated from their family at the border, 2,089 are now arunited with their parents or with sponsors; 565 others remain in government custody, 24 of whom are under the age of five. also the parents o children have already been deport. ny had crossed the u.s. border inlegally, others had come seasylum. lee gelernt is the lead attorney for the american civil liberties
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esion representing the separated fami we invited the department of health and human services to jo us for this conversation. they declined our invitation. thank you for being here, mr. gelernt. you heard the numbers i was reading off. i was listening to the hearing earlier. briefly, are you satisfied with the pace of progress so far? >> generally speaking, we have not been satied. right now, i think it's moving a little quicker than i would have been, but- i'm sorry, i'm having trouble with my mic. the judge has made clear that ope government needs to move quicker, so we'reg at this point things move quicker. up till now, things he not moved at a pace we have been satisfied with, and, in particular, we believe the government may have been sitting on the phone numbers of these deported parents for weeks or
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months, and we should have had those much earlier. hopefully, know that the judge stde it clear that the government can't all any longer, we will find the parents. >> i want to ask you about the 366 phone numbers contacts for those parents who have already been deported. i heard earlier in hething the government said they have contacts for most of those parents. you so then said to the judge, you've only been able to contact about 50 of those parents. nhy is that? >> we have b frantically calling. we are getting inoperative phone numbers from the government in a lot ofases. u know, we don't know exactly what's going on, but it appears that lot off the phone numbers are not operating anymore. there also may be correct phone numbers, but parents have gone into hidins g. so t not going to be an easy task, but we will go back to the govrnment and make cl that a lot of these phone numbers don't appear to be erating, and we need additional information to track these parents down. we're going to do everything we
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can to track them dow in. addition to calling them, we rave people on the ground in ceamerica looking for them. one way or the other, we just need to find these partsn because as the federal judge put it, we cannot have these children orphaned bese the government separated them unconstitutionally and sent their parents' home without them. >> you had to file a joint reunification plan. i want to focus in on one part of it. as part of that outreach effort on the ground, you listed putting a hotline numbon u.s. embassies' websites, other outreach like posting notices, billboards, a and lot of people will find it hard t believe that it's come to that in order to for a parent to know they can get their child back, they have to drive by the right billboard at the right time? is that what it's come to? >> yeah, you're absolutely right. i mean, this is a rough we're hoping that we'll find the
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parents with other means -- phone nuers, adsses -- but we don't want to take any ances, so we are going to ask the government to do everything possible, including billboards, psas, a hotline number. but you're absolutely right, i'm not gog to sugar coat ihis is a bad situation. once we reunite all these ildren, the truth is it's not over for these children because they may be traumatized for the rest of their lives. one family i dealt with, the four-year-old child is back with his mother after months of lparation, but for a we he was continuously asking his omeher, are they going to and take me away again? so we'll do everything we can. if it means billboards, we're going to use billboards to get these kids back, but then i think we need to remember these childr w need help andre hopeful we can get them traumaa u'lp as well. >> once found the parents, and i'm focusing on these because these are the bulk of the children o remain in custody, their parents being out of the country, already.
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>> right. once you have found the parents, though, sounds like parents have to make a choice, either i decie to have my child brought back to me to country of origin and the child gives up claims of asylum in the u.s., or we continue to be separated so my child has his or her claim adjudicated in the united states. is that the choice these 366 parents will face >> you're absolutely right, that's the choice the government wants fat them t what we said to the federal judge today at the hearing is we believe that if parents want to come back to the u.s., they should have that righ the judge said he will listen to those arguments. so we will likely go to the government and try to work it out, but, if we can't, we may be going back to the judge and explain why we believe the parents have a right to come back here, that goes especially for the paren hts who me been misled or coerced into believing they had to accet
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removal to their home country without their children if they ever had a chance of seeing their own childreagain, so the parents gave up asylum claims thinking that was the only way they would geir the children back. tohe extent that happened, it's inhumane, and we will try to get the parents back. but you're right, there's no guarantee the judge will allow that and the parents will be put to the tough choicofither having their children giving up their asylum claims or the children staying by themsd elve, at will be a decision the family and child will have to make with counl, but we'll have to explain to the families all the options and tough choices they may have to make. >> tough choic, indeed. lee gelernt of the aclu. thank you for your time. w thank you. druff: we return now to the subject of child sexual
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abuse in the catholic church mad the extensive, disturbing grand jury repor public in pennsylvania this week. while st investigations have focused on the actions of individual priests, this probe also looked closely at how much church hierarchy-- the bishops knew about that behavior and to what lengths they went to cover it up. among other findings, the report concluded: "priests were raping little boys and and thof god who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all." of the six pennsylvania bishops whose dioceses are covered in the investigation, only one agreed to testify in person before the grand jury: lawrence persico of the diocese of erie. he joinse now via op persico, thank you very much for talking with us. these are such devastating findings. how seriously is theh churc taking them?
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>> they're taking them very seriously because we realize, after the report came out, how bad things were. >> woodruff: meaning that you and others wer not aware of the depth of the problem before th't? >> we werware throughout the whole state of how bad things were. obviously, i knew some of the situation in the diocese, since i've only been here six years, but when you e it all together and you see how bad it is. >> woodruff: as we just said a moment ago, this is a report that focuses, yes, on the actions of individual priests, but it also focuses on the actions of the leadership, the bishops and paints a disturbctg e of the inaction of bishops actively either ignoring or doing nothing about charges, claims that were brought to them. >> that's true. there was a failure of
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leadership.el that definis pointed out in that report, that many bishops did not handle it well. oodruff: and why do you think that was? >> well, that's a good question. i don't want understand myself what they were doing, but i think be tuse they weing to protect the institution and they were more concerned about that than about dealing with this withlaw enforcement, as we would do today. >> woodruff: and how do you explain that, when you think about the vow thate a pst takes, leaders of the church take, what they are devoting their lives to, to put an institution ahead of han beings, how do you explain that? >> there is no exanation for it. it's regrettable, but, fortunately, that's what happened in the past, and we as the leaders today must
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demonstrate that we cannot have that anymore. moving forward, there has to be a resolution to handle this correctly. >> woodruff: well, you were singled out for praise by the pennsylvania state attorney josh shapiro because you were, as we said, one of the only six bishops whose diocese were bei investigated here to show up in person to testify before the grand jury. at the same time, you have been accused a former priest in erie, a man named james bolusiac, of ignoring his story. when he came to you, said had several conversations with you about his own abuse by another prie when he was a teeger. how have you responded to that? >> well, this is the first time i've heard that. i don't remember the multple conversations. he did speak to me once about
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it, and there were other issue ing on with jim, and i was trying to address those issues. he had informed me that he had reported the abuse that he received from monsignor martin prior to my arrival. so i thought that it was dealt with, and i was more concerned about the fragile state that he was in at the te, when we we taking. >> woodruff: have you or do you plan to take steps to talk to him further? >> well, quite frankly, when he left the diocese, i had reacht d him a number of times, written him letters, called him, but there were no returned calls. certainly, if he wants to reach out or speak to me, i wilhal be more happy to. >> woodruff: you, bishop persico, have f your statements -- i was just reading them again this afternoon on behalf of the the
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diocese -- on wanting transparency, as you s focusing on help for the victims, but my question is ise though focus on the people who are accused of making these -- doing these terrible things to these children? do you thik there is enough focus on going after the perpetrators? >> well, we do what we're able to do. civilly, if the crime still -- if they can be arrested by the authorities, that's finei bu do tactkeon by canonem law tove them from ministry, theyre not by function to present themselves as priests. i'm not sure what more we could do outside the law enforcement, if they can do sometng there, that's about it. >> woodruff: i mean, referring them for prosecution, and whatsu
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abouorting what th the state attorney general says when he thinks should happen and that's abolishi the statute of limitations so that no matter when the abuseeccurred perpetrator can be prosecuted? >> wvel, again, that would to be -- i know what the challenges are, or the four proposals that the attorney neral made, however, those proposals, we have to review them or in the process of reviewing thf:. >> woodro you personally think there should be any limits on prosecuting individuals who are accused? >> i don't have a problem with criminal prosecution, no. i think that's fine.i in fact, wish we could. >> woodruff: just a final question, bishop persico. do you believe that the catholic church needs to re-tink its fundamental tenets when it comes
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to young men who go into theod priestthe celibacy that is a part of that responsibility? >> well, certainly, in a situation like this that would raise the question, butust by way of an example, here in the dioce of erie, we published a list of clergy and laity. we have men and women in clergy rking in our institutions. some of them are married. odon't know if you could say it's just becau celibacy these men actedut, or even these women and laymen acted out. so i don think we could just focus it on celibacy. i think it's what kind of review we do en we bring candidates in studying in the seminary. >> woodruff:t's an important study and i know we will
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continue to look at it. bishop lawre you very much.nk >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: just over two years roo, britain voted to quit the an union, and the day is fast approaching when a deal to gnave must be struck. now, british forecretary jeremy hunt is warning of chaos that could be caused by a so- called "hard brexit" if britain leaves without an agreement between london and the e.u. and just today, london mayor sadiq khan asked the british disaster preparation agency to evaluate the effects of that possible "hard brexit." special correspondent malcolm brabant has been examining some of the potential consequences. >> brabant: dawn in brixham, south western england. one of britain's key fishing
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ports and daily trading is hderway. brixham market britain's biggest fish sales. ian perkes, who exports to europe is reaping the benefits of the brexit vote. since then, sterling, the kebritish currency has wead by fi%. perkes buys sh in british pounds and sells in euros. but there have been dire warnings that if britain leaves the tariff free european union without a deal, in a so-called hard brexit, fish will end up rottg on the dockside. >> a load of old tosh. there is never going to be any y sh left on the dock. evsh here for the last 30 ears is sold. nothing r left. there'll be no fish left rotting on the dock, i can assure you of that. >> i think business will continue and we willive, s ich is why i voted out. >> brabant: brixhaawlermen are staunch brexiteers because theyegard europe's fishing quotas as unfair. one of the world's most
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bountiful fiing grounds is close by, yet 70% of catches go to foreign fleets. barry young runs brixham market. don't believe the engli fishermen are naive enough to believe that they're going to have 100% of the quota. t we'd just like a little more of the natural resource on england's doorstep so we can have a decent living. >> brabant: brexit has divided modern britain like never before. ten miles from brixham in totnes, so called remainers have launched a rear guard action. ndey have declared independence pom britainre issuing passports thclaim loyalty to brussels. >> you must read the oath which you've got on the back here. >> i affirm my allegiance to the european union and promise to abe by and promote the universal values upon which it is based. >> i'm so proud to have these. >> brabant: retired psychotherapist fiona green hopes other pro-remain areas will follow and the rebellion will bear fruit. re i'm kind of outraged that thist nonsense which is going to affect so many british
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people especially, the poorer working claspeople has gone rough on a tiny minority vote. >> congratulshions and what l i put here? br rob hopkins please. from my perspectivit has been som unnecessary divisions. it's taken the lid of a padora's box of xenophobia nationalism that i thought we'd really moved beyond. >> either way it's going to be an economic car crash. >> brabant: human rights lawyer jonathan cooper is the architect he the independence movement. >>uropean union has been this amazing mechanism for prosperity and peace and it has injected fundamental values into the heart of european g tizenship that we're also go lose. >> brabant: every passing day brings a new warning for this damp collection of british isled and their ionally stoical inhabitants. there have been reports of stockpiling of food and medicines by the government of
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prime minister teresa may. >> this is not just about stockpiling, that concept. gat it is, it's about mak sure that we'll be able to continue to do the things that are necessary once we've left pean union, if we leave without a deal. >> brabant: may tried to innvince the european commission russels to accept a compromise deal, but it was mjected outright by the e.u.'s chief negotiatorhel barnier. weis has left may caught in a vice ben europe and britain's hardline brexiteers led by forme foreign secretary boris johnson who resigned in protest at her compromise proposals. political analysts say johnson and his supporters may soon try to topple maer brexit. >> order. >> let us again aim explicitly for that glorious visiona strong, independent, self- governing britain that is
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genuinely open to the world. not the miserable permanen limbo. >> brabant: the government is also under pressure from big business. lucy thomas was once a prominent mompaigner for the remain ment, and now advises entrepreneurs how to prepare for brexit. >> the government hasn't made all the preparations that one would need in order to be ready nor a no deal brexit. they haven't goth customs noficers. there arig lorry parks if it's suddenly impossible to move things across borders. >> brabant: the port of dover, 26 miles from calais in france, is the mn freight gateway htween britain and europe. dles business worth $142 billion dollars each year and up to 10,000 trucks a day. the e.u.'s free movement of goods rules mean it only takes two minutes to process a truck now... but without a brexit agreement, the reimposition of customs an other border checks could cause major disruption as dover warned in this video. >> even if it took an extra o
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minute would cause queues of over 17 miles at dovul. and there be similar chaos in calais and dunkirk. the sled movement of goods wouldn't just impact ports, it would impact the whole supply chain. >> brabant: dover claims highways could become parking lots. some british supermarket chiefs have warned there could be food shortages, andne even claimed civil unrest might break out. but william bain, a former lawmaker who represents the retail industry would not go tat far. >> i think key thing is that british consumers have become used to getting the food that they wan the quality that they want, at the price they want aven they want it. and the problem weis is that a no deal brexit would put those sensitive supply chains at risk. >> brabant: time is rapidly running out for there to be an amicable divorce settlement. a recent poll shows that that mod britons are completely up with the painful negotiations and just want the whole process to be completed.
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another survey showed that there were about 100 parliamentary constituencies or districts that voted in the referendum to leave would opt to remain should they be given a second opportunity. but the chances of there being a second referendum are miniscule. >> brexit wouldn't just mean severing trade links. some fear britain could leave the european police agency europol, and lose vital intelligce at a time of international terrorism. civil commissioners who hold britain's police forces to account have told the government that the public could be put at risk. >> brabant: matthew scott is the commissioner in kent, the county where dover is located. >> theres potential for both british and european organizations lose access to infrmation about very dangerous people. and we're trying to emphasize that if there's no deal on security botlosides stand to . >> brabant: back in brixham, fish eorter steve farrar regrets the isolation of
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britain, but hopes cool heads dyll prevail. >> every got too much to lose in the long term. you might get chaos for a little erile. i think s a lot of scaremongering going on. at the end of poe day it's a etical question, but let's just answer it hypothetically. yeah, it probably would be a bit awkward for a while. but fish and commodities and cars and everything else that's created in different countries either europe or britain or elsewhere have to be bought and sold. the products will follow the money. they'll follow the money. easy as that. >>rnrabant: as he takes his to offload the "mary ann"'s catch, skipper nathan old fears twcompromise when negotiations een britain and the e.u. resume. >> i'm not i just know the fishing industry will be the one they sacrifice to keep deals. the house of lords, everything it's landowners. they don't care about fishing in this country. >> brabant: the pro european lobby claims that britain has most to lose from the divorce.
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but brexit is a body blow to a deeply divided europe, and if it's a success, anti-e.u. movements in other countries will be emboldened, further threateninthe concept of a unified europe. for the pbs newshour, i'm malcolm brabant in england >> woodruff: we turn to the analysis of shields and brooks. that's syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. good to see you both. let's start with the president and security clearances. he is moving, david, this week to take awayhe security clearance, he did, of former c.i. director john brennan, says he doesn't like what he's been saying and doing he's threatening to take away another one from a sitting, a hrrent justice department official, an seis this has been well received, but what we're seeing, is fran flood of criticism, disagreement
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from the intelelige community. and, including a letter from 15 top-ranking officials yesterday, dm more tonight. the navyrable retired who ran the osama bin laden raid, put out his t,own statemall a defending john brennan whose clearance was taken away and offering to ve his own security clearance. give that up for the president. what has donald trump accomplished by doing this? >> well, i mean, he's d something that probably shouldn't be politicized, but i confess, t hauble getting my knickers in a twist about this one. a lot of us don't he security clearances, doesn't seem to be a problem in life. the reason they pt people on security clearance after their time in office is so they can offer advice, and i think, frankly, it's a little vanity thing that people get to say i still have my security so when it's taken away, but nohn brennan wasn't given the trump administratdvice
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anyway, so the idea they have to enve without security clearance after they have ut of office doesn't strike me as one of donald trump's most mass transgressions in office. doesn't strike me particularly as a free eech issue john brennan, the rest of us without security clearance arerf tly free to have our speech, and i guess there is some career disadvantage to people who may be younger, but of the top 5,000 trump transgressions, i would not put nis high on the charts. >> woodruf a massive transgression, mark? >> i disagree with david. i begin with william mcraven, the former commander of the u.s. special command, who did lead the raid that took out osama bin laden in 2011,ho ws a retired admiral, who is i not, lett be veted, a talking adhundred television, has been, he's not someone who comments. he has been the chancellor of the university of texas.
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he is known as bull frog because that's the senior member of the navy seals and hwas the senior member to have the navy seals. he was a professional. he emerged and not only defended john brennan, whom donald trump made it quite clear he's tacking -- he's attacking hcause to have the russian investigatioblames him, just as he got rid of james comey, which he admitted simply because he wanted to get rid of cam and because he feared him, not e of the rod rosenstein memo ony' comeless toan dispassionate activity in the hillary clmatter. so what you have is somebody, mcraven, saying the following, through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of ar children, humiliated us on the world stag worst of all divided us as a country. nobody has a right to a security clearance, but what donald trump has done is he's polticized it,
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and this has never been done before. security clearces are lost because of alcoholism, because of drug use, because of behavior th compromises ur position with with that kind of invasion. there was no leaking of confidential information. if there had been, donald trumpy who's not areful about his charges, remember their ber dispute, certainly would have raised that. >> woodruff: so, david, wh about mark's point, politicization, a chilling effect, which is a point that others have made. >> i agree. i said right at the beginning i think he's polit something, and the whole ethos of the whole trump administration has been it's like a family business, and the norms and standards of our government are things they walk all heer for pursuit of donald trump's own perpetual feuding, whoever he happens to be feuding with. d so't want to emerge as the great defender of donald trump on this, i agree with th statements made against him, but it just strikes me as -- you
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know, it's -- will it have a chilling effect? i nyn't imagine ady of conscience, which i take brennan to be, would inhibit his own statement of the truth because he's going to -- as a retir he's going to get his security clearance taken away. so, again, i don't wanto seem like i'm defending trump, i just don't think -- it doesn't rise to me to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors. >> woodruff: mark, the other person the president is attacking this week from a sefferent direction is a woman who was very co him, worked for him as an associate going back to the days of "the apprentice," the realtime tv show he did for many years, goes back almost 15 years, omerosa manigault newman. she's written a book critical of s e president. shoduced audio recordings to back up the book and we've llarned there are video
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recordings as when i interviewed her this diek, she talked about it being a multi show. does either side of the story come out did we learn something, i guess is the question, from this new exchange between the president and somebody until who, just earlier this year, was a good friend of his? >> yes, in a white house where tast to have the people are recent acquaes of the president, she goes back longer than anybody except the president's daughter. she goes back 15 years. she is a donald trump protege and product. her recordor intrity is spotty at best. when donald trump made his famous announcement, announcing running for president, she said this will go downhi iory as the greatest announcement for president in the history ofi american pcs. when asked about donald trump's baiting of mexic-americans, she said that's just donald being donald. but what she does, obviously,
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like elizabeth warren, she gets under dold trump's skin, and she has said things that, you know, may be subject to fact is shebut the reali onaldape, she has tape of trump groveling before her, pretending that he didn't know that john kelly had the day before brought her to the situation roomand said this isn't -- i'm just surprised, which therefore confirms the suspicion widely hd that donald trump doesn't have the stomach for confronting people who work for him, that lhes. you can see that he, obviously, is absolutely upset by her, and she's got everybody in the white house, every male quaking in his guccis about those tapes, i can tell you that. >> woodruff: so she's gotten under his skin, david. where do we go from here with this?g we're wait see what else she has. >> what's interesting about her is she plays by reality show rules, by trump res, and most
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people who go against tmp don't play by his rules and she does, which is no rule, do whatever you can, doesn't matter what the norms and standards ary taping someb the situation room is a rather serious offense and, to me, a great betrayal of how any white house works. >> woodruff: when she was fired. >> right. if we're walking around in the hallway taping each other, that's a betrayal of how normal life should happen. >> is this being taped? (laughter) >> so she said they're going to lie about me and screw me, so i'm ready, and she played by their rules. so we're getting a lesson in what reali tv morality looks like and it is turning into just a reality tv show. so i think they all look bad, frankly. the seriou part is that it's -- especially the allegion which she says with great conviction that hoe used the n wordn a videotape back in "the
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apprentice" days, and if that' used answer october surprise, that puts race at the center of our eltoral politics, and all sorts of signs are pointing in this direction that we're going to wind up with an election where political divides large overhappen with our racial divides, and that's just a ruinous prospect thatle are basically going to be voting, when race is a hot button issue, with a man who has a history of goted comments, and voting along those lines. >> woodruff: speaking of histerm elections, mark, week we had several more primaries voting, and i guess one of the pictures i merging from this on the republican sidh ar candidates who lash themselves closer to donald trump in the republican prima by seem t doing bert and, on the democratic side, you're seeing more diversity. what are we headed for here? i mean, are these models of candidates who are going to do well in november ingeneral election? >> i would say right now that we're heading toward a
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traditional midterm election, a referendum. republicans are terrified. of the 236 house republicans, 16 of the seats, more than 70%, are held by people who have never pun for election with a ican in the white house. they have been elected since 2009. they'vonly run with barack obama where they have been one ffensive and the democrats have been on the defensive. whr first time, they will be in the electione dald trump is the issue. the reality is that the democrats are energized. we sawt in the turnout, we saw it many in minneosota, winsin, where democrats in both parties had controveial hot races with great tension, yet the democratic turnout ais gter and enthusiasm is hiring. in eight special electio, the democrats, every one ran ahoved hillary clinton from her numbers
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2016, and seven of the eight republicans have run behind donald trump. i say that because donald trump got 46% of the vote, and that isn't oug that's fine for electoral college victory but not enough if you're fight ago two-way race for election to theouse of representatives. >> woodruff: what about on the republican side with the candidates closer to donald trump doing better? >> it's not only republican voters like donald trump or tolerate donald trump, but they enthusiastically demand loyalty to donald trump, and, so, minnesota tim pawlenty, the former governor, made critical comments about trump after the access hollywood tape and has since got upback, voted for trump, and he was punished, he got lost. we saw that with mark sanford. so the message has been sent, not only if you are a repub primary candidate, you have to be firmly on board and, in kansas, case after case, the
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more firmly on board has won. so we're going to get candidates of that flair running against a much more diverse democratic field which looks lree the country, and that's why i think the issue will besiiver and demography, and that will be an issue with donald trump at the time. >> woodruff: we've got a couple of months to figure it out. david brooks, mark shields. thank you both. >> thanks, judy. >> woodruff: next, we turn to a special installment of our weekly "brief but spectacular" series featuring one our most popular profiles, flossie lewis. tonight, it is not so brief, but we wanted to show therpt of a documentary that will be screened next weesday at the commonwealth club in san francio. a former teachet >>ng old is a state of mind. now, i'm 91, i'm badly crippled.
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but i still think i'm 15. will this go viral? >> this? we hope so. >> accepting the fact that the y dy is going to go but the personalesn't have to go and that thing which ithe hardest to admit is that character doesn't have to go. i'm flossie lewis and this is my brief but spectacular take on growing old. >> goldbloom: welcome to this special episode of brief b'm spectacular,teve goldbloom. the clip you just saw of flossie lewis first aired on pbs
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newshour in 2016 and, as she predicted, it did indeed go viral. more than seven-million viewers watched her take on growing old and living well, with thousands of comments coming in from was a little overwhelmed by all the attention. she called me and asked if she was expected to respond personallyo each of the of comments on facebook. i assureher that she was not. flossie's video struck a chord with millions, but onef the responses caught our attention. it came from author daniel handler,.k.a. lemony snicket, who wondered how we managed to track down his high school english teacher. we soon heard from oth bay area residents who passed through flossie's classroom, and not just passed through, but who described the experience as ving a profound effect o their education and their appreciation of poetry. she was best english teacher. >> she demanded excellence. hed a gravidas about her. i think she has ability
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to startle. >> she has no time for your bull (bleep). >> so based on popular demand, we took a deeper >> goldbloom: so, based on popular demand, we took a deeper dive with flossie. we spent some time with her in her retirement home in oakland, and we organized a reunion to take place inside her old assroom. we invited many of her former 0 udents, some of whom, she hadn't seen inars. flossie got right to work. oe prepared a lecture for the wacasiwhether or not bob tulas worthy of the nobel prize for lite. t at's all the context you need for what you're ab see. let's start with an introduction. tell us, where you were born? >> i think i was born in bensonhurst, which is a section of brooklyn. i received my b.a. from brooklyn college 1945. in the jewish community of brooklyn in the 40's a girl was thpected to be married and the worsg that could happen to
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her would be spinsterhood and what was my fate? to be a spinster. so i got on a greyhound bus. i went with a friend and it took us five days and constipation to get to berkeley. teaching was the one thing that a woman could do. i could command the attention of a class. i had a voice. i had that kind of personality, that did not seem teacherly but was provocative. well, you couldn't be in charge of the weather. we should have done this yesterday. >> goldbloom: i think this works well. >> well, my philosophy is that everything that can go wrong will go wrong. let's hope for the best. >> goldbloom: okay.
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>> now steve, are we on ocean ave? i think we are. are we on ocean ave driver? >> not yet. >> becau we used to go down ocean ave and we'd be there by this time. so when you go back go back by ocean ave please! >> okay. >> i think i was intimidated by her name. flossie is a very unusual name. >> petite woman who always wore very funky clothes. >> she called me once when i was in college, i was very ill. i had just come out of the hospital and she read to me from shfka's diary. said this will cheer you up. i said, "but it didn't go well for kafka though did it?" and she said "no, no it didn't." o she changed the directi my life. because of flossie i became a writer. all throughout my life, flossie has been there for me. everyone else said no to me and she said yes.
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>> my wheelchair is in place? >> goldbloom: it's in place. >> this is the absolute ( bleep )! o at's all i can say! it ain'tn, but i'm delighted to be here and thank you for coming! oh, jesus, how lovely. ay, ready. the trivial task before us is to decide whether bobby dylan is worth the laurea for literature. defend his work. or, open my eyes to something that i haven't seen and we don't have to go up and down the row, but speak! >> what is wrong with dylan, flossie? thmean, he's just putting out questions.
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>> so he makes a search? >> for some people. >> rena dear. you're on baby. >> how many roads must a man walk down before you call him a man is a rhetorical question. e yes. i see what youying. ar i will not dispute anything that i've i know you love him. i happen not to lo him, but that's not the point. he speaks for your generdeion. how do wde who represents poetry? honey? speak. >> whether he's a poet laureate. the question for me is compared to what? >> put him next to someone that also merits this kind of consideration and show me how he wins and then we can give dylan e used to fuss when the landlord dissed us. no heat. we wondered by christmas missed us. birthdays was the worst days,
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now we s champagne when we thirsty. i like that so much more for what it does for the english language. i personally am unequivocally opposed to dylan bei chosen at the nobel laureate, but that doesn't mean that i'm oppod to the views that i've heard here. that's what was wonderful about your classroom, flossie, was it wasn't just your voice. you emuld bring us all in. >> iber when you read us a sonnet from shakespeare and you said "it's no good!" ( laughter ) and that was amazing. that was amazing. >> thank you for remembering. >> i remember so clearly. >> i remember my first composition i wrote for you and your comment was "im concerned by how drab your verb are." ( laughter ) >> when i was here in high school and coming out, i was depressed i was coming out i was maybe suicidal. i tell people i have this english teacr who i think maybe saved my life. and, i think you did, so, thank ru and i love you.
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>> ylly introduced me to poetry. d ve gone on to become an architect have a really strong affinity for classical greek architecture. you have made those buildings come to life for me. tuand shown me that archit can have poetry. thank you very much. >> okay, guys. the class is over but i hope it will never be er and i hope that even if the answers are blowing in the wind,hat maybe having an answer that is too certain can destroy us also. ( applause ) ♪ ♪
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bye, honey. oh, the cab is here. >> goldbloom: the cabbie's he. it's the same man. >> tell him to go on ocean avenue. >> goldbloom: oh, boy. u touched a lot of people, flossie. >> a lot of people touched e y street. imagaching those kids. he's goingo go the way he nts to do if it's not ocean avenue, what the hell. ♪ ♪
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>> woodruff: once again, our bay area viewers can wch the longer version of this episode and you can watch the original flossie "brief but spectacular" online at and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. anve a great weekend. you and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> kevin. >> kevin! >> kevin. >> advice for life. life well-planned. learn more at >> babbel. >> consumer cellular.
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tonight on kqed "newsroom," state lawmakers come closer to ending cash bail in california as they decide the fate of hundreds of bills. also, going in depth with an executive at reddit. the popular online forumalled "the front page of the internet." plus "crazy rich asians" directed bid a bay area native with an all asian cast is hoping to break barriers in hollywood and beyond. hello, and welcome. i'm thuy vu. we begin with politics. in sacramento, state lawmakers and governor jerry browtw have weeks to decide the fate of a thousand bills before the end of the session. on thursday, a measure that would end the practice of cash bail in califoia cleared a key committee. but hurdles lie ahead


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