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pplause] >> and now, "bbc world" i am babita sharma. our top stories -- saudi arabia's foreign minister insists the crown prince had nothing to do with the death of jamal khashoggi. he says when it comes to the monarchy, there is a red line. john mccain's widow, cindy, speaks to the bbc about his legacy and what he would make about today's politics. cindy: john would have been so disappointed in this election just because of the nastiness of the discourse in my own home state and across the country. babita: talk about a long walk. one man has trekked for the 9000 miles, cov new york city.k of
itba welcome to "world news america," coming to you this evening from london. fosaudi arabia'ign minister says criticizing the leadership of the kingdom is a redline.ng speao the bbc, he said that includes the calls for replacing crown prince mohammed bin salman, who he maintains is h not involved in the de journalist jamal khashoggi. his comments are a day after president trump issued a statent saying we will never know if the crown prince was involved in the murder. i'm chief international corresponden -- our chief international correspondent lyse doucet sports unshakable bond, bu the u.s. congress now has the rights in its -- prince in its sights. they wantt to know wole he
played in the murder of jamal khashoggi. but in riyadh, the top diplomat hit back. >> the crown prince was not involved in this. we have made that very clear. we will punish the individuals who are responsible for this and we will make sure it doesn't happen again. lyse: so is this a red le, whatever the evidence is -- >> show us the evidence. if turkey has the evidenc i please provi all we hear is leaks. show us the evidence and then we talk. it is a redline when you have individuals callingor replacement of our leaders. that is ridiculous and ceunacable in saudi arabia. lyse: there is another crisis, two, yemen, said to be on the brink of the worst famine in living memory. saudi arabia is under mounting pressure to end the bombing and block is causing such suffering. >> we are doing everything
tssible to minimize suffering of the yemeni people. when we have a militia that is radical, allied with hezboll and iran, that launched more than 200 ballistic missiles in our towns are we supposed to sit sorry, we are oh, not going to do anything? lyse: if i understand you correctly, saudi arabia and its coalition are not ready to do anything to bring an end to their involvement in this war? mr. al-jubeir: we have said we support a political effort to finding a solution to the yemeni crisis. lyse:di this week the sau monarch set out his agenda for the year. his son the crown prince in the frontal row, a si to saudiw's and thd that the kingdom sets its own course. lyse doucet, bbc news, riyadh. babita: for more on reactions to th president's recent m comment
colleague jane o'brien spoke to "washington post" correspondent mary jordan a short while ago. jane: you heard him say that the conference had nothing to do with ts, and donald trump saying maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. what message does that send? mary: it tells tyrants around the world that if enough money is involved, it is ok. you can break international norms, you can kill people. but human rights have a price. i think people are shocked at the president's statement here. jane: but many other presidents have had to deal and continue to deal with countries and rulers who have done terrible things. what makes donald trump'd's stae fferent? mary: i think that it is how he dealt with it. ndyes, there is bad actors people you he to deal with for strategic reasons. but there was even a moment,
there was an even a big push back. he was siding with the saudis against u.s. intelligence. we know how saudi arabia works. of course this didn't go down without the prince knowing. our own intelligence services saying that. when donald trump didn't -- immediately start talking about money, people read it not america first, but money first. ipe think a lot ole in the senate on the republican side, the president's own party, are pushing back big-time over this. jane: but isn't he also saying what i suspect many americans might be thinking, that this is not worth losing all that money, this iit worth jeopardizing a relationship with a serious ally? mary: but there is a big difference between jeopardshing a relati and saying we don't tolerate this. let's have a moment.s let'y that america stands for something. you cannot take someone who ise living in ited states,
lure then to turkey, kill then, dismember them, and you know what, jobs, that trumps that. ab is not saying he will never deal with saudi , but people are shocked there wasn't even kind of "hey, we are going to have some kind of punishment." now the senate and congress is reking that because they shocked. they are also saying of course we have to deal with people we don't agree with, but there has to bsome punishment for this amazingly heinous, horrible murder. jane: is that going to be enough? if congress does trigger action or new sanctions, is that going to be enoughiven what donald ump has said? mary: it will be verybe interesting use donald trump reacts to public opinion. this case, because it was one man who was getting a paper to
get married, and there is video of it, people -- they understand ve want jobs, but we want to feel good that we ome kind of moral standing. it will be very interesting if trum changess we head towards the election if he sees we think we are better than this. jane: mary jordan, thank you for joining us. babita: in other news, british prime minister theresa ma says there are issues still to be resolved as she tries to finalize today she met with the president ean commission, jean-claude juncker, in brussels, and says she will return for more talks on saturday. the pengon said it cost $72 million to deploy u.s. forces to the border with mexico in recent eks to prevent illegal immigrants crossing. almost 6000 troops were sent to the border befe midterm elections after president trump warned of what he called an invasion of the country by a caravan of central arican grants. south korea's kim jong yang has
been electedhe new president interpol. fncerns were expressed about another candidatring that he was too close to the kremlin. an american tourist has beener killed by meof an endangered tribe in a remote island of india. the 27-year-old was a christian missionary who was killed with bows and arrows and hiftbody was n the beach. the tribeiv in isolation from the rest of the world, and it is illegal to try to contact them. it has been three months since america lost one of its great statesmen, senator john mccain. the nation watched as the family mourned and vowed to carry on his legacy. his wife, ndy, is doing just that by becoming chair of the mccain institute, which focuses on international security. my colleague yalda hakim sat m down with mrain to talk
about her husband and the enduring lessons he has passed on. yalda: when the news came of his passing, there was this extrrdinary bipartisan outpouring. why do you think the nation reacted in that way? cindy: john was truly the conscience of the senate and in many ways the conscience of the country. people recognized him for his ability to work across the aisle, and his belief in working across the aisle. also, his willingness to debate but not demean as a result of lofferences. i believe we hav those ideals forever right now. if that makes sense. i think he represented so much to the country, and i'm hoping that we swing back and begin to realize the importance of doing what john did. yalda: many people say it wasyas
not just like a president had diedit was like a great president had died, and it stopped the nation at that moment. and yet the presidenwasn't there. ndy: well, you have to remember, even though it was a very public funeral, we are still a family. for all of us, and for the sake of my own children, i didn't want any disruption. this is about john, not about anything else at all in our country. it was important to me that we kept it respectful and calm and not politicizet. sounds funny coming from a political family in a political cotry. but it was important that we oopt it with dignity. i did not want thea. yalda: many speakers at his memorial spoke about unity. there was one of the biggest things that came out of the memorial. but just soon after, we had the supreme court vote and the whole kavanaugh fiasco.
the environment has become so incrediy toxic. cindy: it is, unfortunately. once again we go back to i hate you because you are a different party. that is not how it is, it is not how it should be. this 24-hour news cycle and the access to twitd all these things hav all.helped this at i am hoping this election has proved that people are a little bit frustrated with what is going on, and hopefully it will change. john would have been so disappointedn this election just because of the nastiness and the discourse in my state and across the country. yalda: there are a lot of people who say that today's republican party has abandoned the things that john mcca or ronald reagan stood for.
urwhere do you think the fof the republican party stands? cindy: i believe we will once again be a strong and moderate party. we are the party of abraham lincoln. i cannot believe that this party is just going to go away. it won't. but we have to learn from our mistakes. lick our wounds and start again. yalda: does the president have your support in the 2020 election? cindy: i don't even know if he is going to run, and he is not sure. yalda: do you think he might not? cindy: i don't know. i'm like you, i have no inside track on this. i just hear what i hear. look, i think we all need to support the white house in anythi because it is our white house. we can be free to disagree and we can be free to voice our disagreements also. as far as supporting a candidate, i'm going to stay out of elective politics for a while. i've been doing that for 38 years with my husband.
i just want to make sure that my kids are safe and my state is solid. yalda: but basedn his performance so far, if there was an election today, would he have your vote?' cindy: i 't answer that right now. i really cannot. at this point i would like to see some softening of the rhetoric. i really would. it is hurtful. yalda: were you hurt when the pra ident said he wasn'r hero? cindy: yeah, i was. i thought it was inappropriate and wrong, i really did. it hurt the family, too. and it hurt the other men who served with john. it wasn't just aohn, it was all the other people. i think that was a wrong thing to say. i don't know if i will ever get over it, i'll be honest.t am the wife, that's my prerogative. i don't have to.
yalda: your daughter meghan hit out at the president. she was tough. meghan: the america of john mccain has no need to be made great again because america was alwa great. yalda: do you think that she is carrying her father's straight talking manner? [laughter] cindy: i think so. i did not know the text of the speech. i knew she was giving one, but i hadn't re i was so preoccupied with so much. i thought she did an amad ng job hispoke her mind. i would expect n less from her or any other mccain, either. it is interestg to watch your kids grow, especially meghan, because she definitely is john mccain in a dress and we have ll along,ng that since she was a kid. she has his temperament and his style. yalda: john mccain changed the
world. how did he change your world? cindy: oh my gosh. i have the good fortune of knowingis and marrying incredible man and having ah family wm. i had a front row seat to history in every way. i never expected that kind of life. i never expected anything close to it. was truly amazing. it is something that i thi we wwill miss him for the obvious reasons, but he was the life of the party. he was the one that when he walks through the door, he knew youwould be a good night know what i mean? i am going to miss that abouthi theel yeah, he was somethin. babita:dy cccain there. you are watching "bbc world news america." omstill toon tonight's
program, the exodus is on for but once you get there, what will keep a family from fighting? we brought in an expert to tell more. da british tudent accused of spying for the u.k. government has been sentenced by a edurt in the unrab emirates to life in prison. this report from five. reporter: matthew hedges in happier times with his wife. the academic was in the united arab emirates toco report on the try's foreign policy. as he was about to return to the u.k., he was detained, with his family saying that he was held in solitary confinement, forced to sign a confession in arabic, and said a s.cktail of dr he was sentenced to life in prison. hisife issued a statement -- " i am in complete shockknnd don't what to do. matthew is innocent. this has been the worst six months of my life, let alone for
matt, who was shaking when he heard the verdict." the u.k. and uae has have historically enjoyed warm ties, but it appeared today's verdict came as a surprise to the >> we have given repeated assurances about matthew. there are going to be serious diplomatic consequences because this is totally unacceptable. reporter: matthew hedges' colleagues say there is no legitimate basis for his arrest. the authorities have provided very little about this was a matthew was brought to their attention by a citizen of the uae who is concerned about the questions he was asking. we don't know who that person s. as far as we are aware, that person remains entirely anonymous. reporter: matthew hedges' family maintained hisro innocence hout, saying his mental and physical health have worsened while being detained.
the court says he will have 30 days to appeal f but now, i nightmare for one family is becoming another diplomatic crisis for britain. babita: welcome. there is a lot of preparation that goes into a holiday feast, but nothing can ruin the meal faster than a fight over politics. so how do you avoid he things turning into a food fight? my colleague jane o'brien spoke to a social scientist at columbia university before they headed out for thanks giving. jane: talking politics at the dinner table has always be pretty contentious. why is it so bad now? >>vi we are , as your viewers, i am sure, noknow, in trrdinary times.
there is politics of more contentiousness,eanness. some of that comes from politics, media, and that is and --ome of it comes from tribal politics that existed in the u.s. and in the u.k. and around the world. and that is an exhaustion, a3 kind of low tolerance for frustration right now. i think people wder when people get into conversations that have political tensions or personal animosities, i thin things are hotter. things escalate more quickly these ys. jane: you have a wonderfully named "difficult conversations lab" at columbia. what have you found? >> one of the main things we found is that the punchline is complexity. when people are able to stay in an emotional place where they feel perhaps some frustration, perhaps some anger about the
issues, that they can move back and forth to feeling a little bit of positivity, a little bit of negativity, and there is movement emotionally, and there is movement cognitively, so peoplehink about the issues, whatever they are talking about, whether it is brexit, the trump administration, or health care in this country, if they can hold onto a more complex and nuanced understanding of these issues, these issues are immensely complex -- jane: that sounds like a lot tot think about ovkey. you havctical advice for those of us who are going to take the plunge and talk about politics? >> i guess it would t not to atte resolve tribal issues. i think that bng mindful of the fact that these are extraordinary times, thinking a little bit about what you want to do at thanksgiving, what kinds of conversations want to have. if you are moving into persuade yo uncle who is stuck in a different point of view than you are, if that is really what you want to do, maybe thanksgivingot
ishe right time to do that, and may you should think about the conditions under which you have that kind of conversation with someonelse. do you have a relationship with them that would tolerate that? or have you in the past triggered, escalated conflicts, gotten into more difficult conflicts with that corson? when is to these deeper issues around values, they are harder to navigate, particularly in the short term. babita: probably not -- jane: probabl not over the brussels sprouts. whether you are talking about politics, or not, thank you. happy thanksgiving. >> my pleasure, thank you. babita: love that idea of a difficult conversations laboratory. this story gives new meaning to taking a long walk. over a period of 30 years, he has visited every block of evere street in oroughs of new york.
this week a movie edens document his urban trek. tom brook has the story. tom: chinatown in new cark on a typiday. they go about their business. for matt, it means continuing his marathon citywalk. >> i am walking every block of every street in the five boroughs. i'm also walking through parts, -- parkscemeteries, beaches, covering all the outdoor public area, and just seeing what is there. tom: while he has been on his walk, he has lived on a shoestring, staying in different apartmts in exchange for activities such as cat sitting, and raising money for donations to his website. strangely, he said, he doesn't know why he spent almost seven years walking ound new york vering a distance of 9000 mi ts. >>nk it occurred to me early on that a lot of times we feel like we have to have a way to sum up what we are doing and explain why it is important, this societal pressure to be ableag to pathat up and
put a nice bow on it and tell people about it. so i don't really know why. tom: in new york, he has quite a few followers who monitor his progress. now a wider audience is being introduced to his urban walking adventures by way of a newcu ntary chronicling his exploits which opens in cinemas this week. 0it is a distillation of hours of director. by the >> so it is like a mission? >> y, it is like a mission. d. aren't you tired? t> a little tire >> the movie is ab discovering the amazing that is in fnt of your eyes. you can just walk the streets and discover everything that the city has to offer. i hope the film conveys that it is a sort of different look at the world, and it is sort of asking people to slow down a little bit, to noticthings around them.
>> butterfly and orange flower -- i saw that in marine park a couple years ago. tom: jesse eisenberg, the hollywood actor who is executive producer of the fi, believes he has taken on the mission simply because it was there to be done. >> there is a quote by edmund hillary, whitey climbed -- why he climbed mount everest, because it is therhi there is som about accomplishing this thing for the sake of itself rather than somed ki of capitalization of it. tom: matt has 500 mis left to go he knows where the walk will fini, on the street where he started, where there is a new yorkizza parlor, nail salon, and a bagel shop. to mark the completion of his work, he intends to sample the offerings of all three esblishments. tom brook, bbc news, new york. babita: perfect city to do it.
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