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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, anothel gu plea. th time, president trump's former lawyer michael cohen admits to lying to congress to cover up contacts with russia well into the presid t.mpaign. then, paradise los we visit the california town destroyed by wildfire e desperate search for the missing amonthe ashes. >> what you are really trying to be mindfulf is that as you move through these searches, you're also moving through somem of tt intimate parts of anybody's life. >> woodruff: plus, we are on the ground in argentina, as leaders of the world's largest economies oither and president trump faces a number of flass. all that and more on tonight's
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>>tnd with the ongoing supp of these institutions: and individuals. >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributionso your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: there's a new plot twist tonight in the drama of the special counsel's russia investigation. thelements: a lawyer's lie russian real estate, a plea and president. john yang begins our coverage. yang: outside, federal court enin new york, michael coh had nothing to say. inside, he told a judge he had lied to congress about his role in negotiations during the 2016 mpaign for then-candidat
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donald trump to build a trump tower in moscow. leaving the white house about ao ur later, president trumps slammed rmer trusted personal lawyer and fixer. >> he's a weak person and what he's trying to do is get ase reduceence. so, he's lying about a project k that everybow about. when i run for president, that doesn't mean i'm not allowed to do >> yang: dthe campaign, mr. trump repeatedly denied having any business ties with russia. >> i have nothing to do with russia, folks. i'll give you a writtenen stat itthing to do. >> yang: cohen ated lying when he told the house age senate intelnce committees that the moscow tower project,ic began in 2015, had ended in january 2016, just before the iowa caucuses. he acknowledged that discussions actually went on until at least june 2016, the month before the "publican convention. court documents sahen made
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the false statements to minimize links between the moscow project and individual 1" -- whom cohen identified in court as president trump -- and "in hopes of limiting the ongoing russia investigions." prosecutors also said cohen briefed trump family members about the project. cohen, who once said he put the interests of the president and s family above those of his own, worked for the trump organization for a decade. while he had earlier pleaded guilty to other federal offenses, today's charges came from spe mueller and included an agreement to cooperate in his probe ofussian interference in the 2016 election.k, this wueller also ratcheted up pressure on former trump campaign chairman paulgi manafort, al that he breached his plea deal by repeatedly lying to investigators. even as the president vilified iacohen, he said a preside pardon for manafort is not out of the question. >> about how no one had been
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treated as badly as he has been treated. >> yang: on capitol hill, the top democrat on th intelligence committee said he's concerned the testimony of other witnesses. >> i think michael cohen's guilty plea also underscores the importance of something else, and that is: we believe other witnesses were untruthful before our committee. we want to share those transcripts with mr. mueller. >> yang: some republicans, like louisiana senator john kennedyr say the muelvestigation shouldn't drag on. >> it's been 17 months now and the american people are entitled w. know what happened and who if anybody broke the >> yang: this week, the senate blocked legislation to protect the mueller investigation. for the pbs newshour, i'm jo yang. >> woodruff: to explain what muhen's plea agreement could tell us about thler investigation, garrett graff. he's a contributor to "wired magazine" and the author of "the threat matrix: inside robert mueller's f.b.i. and the war onl
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al terror." garrett graff, welcome back to the program. what doe what we learned today from what robert mueller said? >> yeah, this is an incredibly significant development, and it becomes more significanas the day passes and its true meaning sets in. robert mueller in his investigation has uncovered two separate criminal conspiracies at aided donald trump's election in 2016, one was run by the russian government involving the hacking attacks on the d.n.c. and information operations on facebook and twitter, and the other wa a criminal conspiracy around campaign fines violation led by michael cohen himself. today what is guilty plea means is that the central figure in one of those criminal conspiracies reached out to and sought the aid of the central
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figure vladimir putin in the other criminal conspiracy so this is beginning to paint a picture of a coordinated effort that is exactly what we have been wondering about l along >> woodruff: so this goes beyond, garrett gra, what people were thinking was the main focus of the mueller investigation and that is russian interference in the u.s. election? >> well, it's not -- this is the central focus. it doesn't go beyond s getting to the core of that question, sort of what did russia do, who helped them, and what americans participated in the russian criminal conspiracy and, ob mviously, thehael cohen charges thus far seeunm lated, but what we are beginning to see is that the trump organization was trying to engage in direct conversation
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with the office of russian president vladimir putin well into the 2016 presidential campaign and, notably, one to have the things bob mueller highlights in his duments, sort of one of those dates he presents without comment in the charging documents b seems significant, this deal only died on june 14th, 2016, which was the day that the d. ncks became public. that's the day that michael cohen decided he was no longer pursuing the trump tower project in moscow. >> woodruff: so how closse president trump now ideient as being to whatever went on paign -- or cam apparently went on between his campaign and the russian government? well, what we do know is that donald trump has now been named twice in court docents, and they are both related to michaet coheat michael cohen has gone out of his way in both s
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plea agreement in august and in today's court appearance to say he was acting at the direction of donald trump. additionally in the court documents today we see that michael cohen is saying that he kept the trump family up to dae about the progress of this project. so, presumably, that include potentially donald trump, jr., perhaps eric trump, perhaps even jared kushner. >> woodruff: what does it tell you, garrett graff, that robert mueller signed today's agreement,nnouncement? >> yeah, i mean, we sort of have to read the tea leaves of every action in this investigation because we are not getting any leaks from inside robert mueller's team. so i think that there are a couple of things to read into today's criminal filing. one is robert mueller sees tosomeone lyin congress about
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russia as under h purview. that's potentially very bad news for anyone else who was involved ein testifying before th house or the senate over the last two years who lied in their testimony. you heard in that taped package that there's potentially others who are exposed in that realm. and this is also a case -- you remember ae other michael cohen prosecutions up to this poinhave been handled by prosecutors in the southern district of new york, so this is the first time that robert mueller is stepping in and putting his ow sta on the case g2- g20se against michael cohen and saying we intend to have michael cohen as a cooperate rarity going forward. he's given about 70 hours of testimonand meetings with robert mueller's team so this ifirst time we've seen public evidence of it. i don't think it's going to be thlast time we see michael cohen appearing in court evidence. >> woodruff: last friday, it
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was announced president trump had submitted his answers to robert mueller, to the special counsel, and then, over the past period of days, almost every day there's been another development out of the mueller offic where do you see this going right now? >> well, i think what we're seeing is mueller very carefully was not rocking the boat until he had those trump written answers in hand. now he's charging forward on variety of fronts. we've seen tremendous movement this week also around sort of this nexus of roger stone, jerome coarsey and julian assange in the quest of wikileaks role in releasing thosdemocratictolen e-mails. >> woodruff: garrett graff joining us once again. thk you very much. >> my pleasure. >> woodruff: now reaction from capitol hill. >> woodruff: now reaction from capitol hill. congressman eric swalwell is a democrat from california. he sits on the house intelligence committee to ich michael cohen admits he lied.
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congressman, what's your reaction to this? >> good evening, judy. this is ju ost onef i think what will be many lies that will be prosecuted by bob mueller, and i say that because, buried beneath e capital at the house intelligence committee are pages of lies from witnesses whost ied, and their transcripts sit there right now, and not being able to go to bob mueller despite democratic efforts to try to tleaem to bob mueller does a nunez and republicans voted against themselves. these are going to right to the special counsel and i expect more indictments. >> woodruff: are you saying you have some sense of who else may have lied to your com >> yes, if what michael cohen has told the special counsel now and has resulted in his pla, there's a lot of other witnesses who are in a similar pos wion where thren't straight with the house intelligence committee, and it looks like bou
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ler, who has the subpoena power we're not able to use because the republicans blocked it was able to find that so we hope to get those trasopripts as as possible to the special counsel. >> woodruff: so, congressman, based on this and the other developments we're seeing this week in recent days, where does your committee go next? what are thnse questyou next have that you want answers to? >> we want to filal in the gps. we don't want to be redundant and cover areas mueller already covered but that includes money launderi. rank and membership has been aretty straightforward that he believes and i his belief that there is a lot of evidence that the russians for decades sought to business with donald trump and he has sought to do business with them, but we were blocked from subpoenaing ks toche banc and other ban see if there is a financial relationship between russian oligarchs and the president, also the trump tower meeting alluded to in the document, the
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date june 9th being put in the indictment, we know a couple of days before the meeting, don, jr. made a phone call to russia anl then made a calat was blocked on the cell phone transcript that we have and then called back to russia. we have strong evidence that suggests that might be communication between donald, jr. and his father, which would give knowledge by candidate trump of the meeting that theyr have so denied he ever knew about. >> woodruff: welu let me ask out the financial question, the money laundering allegations that you'ret referrin to what extent can the president be held accountablebe held cuppable if there is evidence of money laundering? because the president has said, as president, he can't be prosecuted for financial dealings. >> that's right. and our job is not to be prosecutors. i see our b now with the subpoena power is to essentially intervene where we can protect domestic and foreign policy. i we see wheths with the saudis and the prior financial
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dealings there that's driving foreign policy or the russians that if we shine shine a light on his prior financial actions we can prevent some worst instincts from materializing that we weren't able to do before. >> woodruff: what dos ou mean by rst instincts? >> typically, i think presidents gove on their values and american values, and we see a president who has god er transactions rather than values, and those transactions have allowed, for exalethe saudis, a u.s. resident killed n.a.t.o. soil and we've we've done almt nothing to punish the country who did that ande found a relationship between the president and sau he's undermining the intelligence findings with respect with respect to russia and we know the president had trademarks he sought in russi a befod this plea that
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michael cohen lay us out a mega development deal he was trying to dduring the campaign with the russia's. >> woodruff: congressman. you know president denied y impropriety with russia or saudi arabia. he called this a witch hunt, th democre out to get him and so on. south going to take hard evidence, anthere isn't that hard evidence yet, is there? hink the indictments speak much louder than the president's denials, and bob mueller continues to rack upme indis that show that there was an eagerness and a willingness to work with the russians, that this was occurring during the campaignr while they also seeking business deals and, by the way, when they were confronted about it by congress and special counsel, the tmp team lied and that i think goes to a consciousness of guilt and that's all the more reason we should puotect bob meller and continue this investigation. >> woodruff: are you planning to call more witness before the committee? >> we don't want to be
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redundant. we want to call wirenesses who locked from being called before and a lot of those t tnesses relate to testing the testimony tha've already heard. we took these witnesses at their wo, and they weren't worthy of being taken at their word. so now we can contact third-party providers and vendors and subpoena their records to see if what roger stone and donald trump, jr. and michael cohen were saying was true or not, and i think that's what we where we're really going to fill in the gaps. >> woodruff: and i think for the publicatching this, itcan be confusing at times, so look at the mueller track, what the special counsel is doing, and then, separately, what the house and senate investigag.ons are do how can you clarify that? >> and, judy, i think the whole country has gotten a ph.d. in russian studies that none of us signed up for, but what we can do and our responsibility to do is to protect our democracy and protect the future. we know the rusans intend to continue to attack our democracy. we shouldn't see our as prosecutors. we should see ourselves as guardians of the democracy to ma sure that wh we have a
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presidential election in two years that it is one that is free and fair from russian interference or any other country. >> and, so, for people who are saying, wait a minute, why not let th mueller investigation proceed, why do the politicians have to be involved, how do you answer it? >> a great question. bob mueller can only tell the public what he can prove beyond a reasonable doubt and there are a lot of gaps between what he can prove because of eidencery reasons and whawe can learn from trump conduct. bob mueller's jobs are to look for crimes. where there are gaps just as tember 11 sep commission, making ourselves safer in the skies with congressional reforms, we have the same dty now.dr >> wf: congressman eric swalwell, member of the house intelligence committee.ry thank you uch. >> my pleasure.
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>> woodruff: in the day's other news, president trump canceled a meeting with russian president vladimir putin, at the upcoming 20 summit. he tweeted his decision, after leaving for argentina. in it, he cited russia's seizure of thr ukrainian ships and 24 sailors near occupied crimea. the president said he decided ld be best for all parties concerned to cancel." that came less than hour after he said he was still open to meeting with putin. ukrainian president petr poroshenko called today for nato to send more warships re the crimeaon. but a nato spokesperson said the alliance already has a strong. presence the the kremlin complained that poroshenko is tryingke new trouble. president trump is giving out mixed signals trade tensions with china, ahead of meeting with china's president at the g- 20. it comes as "the wall street journal" reports washington might be willing to suspend further tariffs, in exchange for economic reforms by china.
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leaving the white house for buenos aires today, the president suggested he could go either way. >> i think we're very close to doing something with china but i don't know that i want to do it. because what we have right nowil isons and billions of dollars coming into the u.s. in the formriffs or taxes. so i really don't know but i will tell you that i think chine wants to make . i'm open to making a deal. but fr have right we >> woodruff: meanwhile, beijing today criticized the u.s. for sailing two navy warships throh the taiwan strait. a destroyer and a cruiser passed onday.h on china claims taiwan and the surrounding waters as its territory. there's word that china is tracking electric cars within its borders, raising new concerns about sweeping surveillance. the associated press reports that more than 200 companies, including tesla, ford an general motors, transmit themo
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data ttoring centers, in sacordance with chinese laws. chinese officialthe data is used to improve public safety. beijg also moved today to st a medical team's work on gene- edited babies. that's aft a chinese researcher claimed he created twins with altered d.n.a. to resist the aids virus. china's vice minister of science and technology said today that his agency has ordered the work >> ( tran ): the gene- edited babies reported by the media obviously violates china's relevant laws and regulations,it lso crossed the line of morality and ethics adhered to academic community, whi is shocking and unacceptable. ea are firmly against this. >> woodruff: the rher's claims have not been hedependently confirmed. but he said todaill cooperate fully with any investig available for outside review. back in this country, a hotly
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contted nomination for a federal judgeship in north carolina may have gone down to defeat. attorney thomas farr had been criticized for defending state laws that were biased against black citizens. late today, south carolina republican senator tim scott w announced l vote "no." that ensures farr cannot gain a majority, if no other votes change. flash flooding h parts of northern california today as a new rainstorm drenched areas burned bare by wildfire. rescue teams deployed to aid people trapped in cars. meanwhile, crews continuedea clring debris and restoring electrical power on the outskirts of paradise. the town was largely destroyed by fire this month. deaths in the united states hit a record high last year: 2.8 million. the centers for disease control and prevention blames drugth
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overdoses anmost suicides ea 50 years it says as a result, life expectancy ded for the second time in three years. a baby born in 2017 is now mpected to live an average of 78 years and sevths. u.s. officials now say 42 migrants arrested in a border clash near tijuana, will not be charged with illegal entry into the u.s. they managed to cross during sunday's melee between migrants who threw rocks, and borderag ts who fired tear gas. the ultimate fate of the 42 is still unclear. and, on wall street, stocks slipped a little after wednesday's big rally. the dow jones industrial average lost 27 points to close at 25,338. the nasdaq fell 18 points, and the s&p 500 was down six. still to come on the newshour: a desperate search f those still missing cater the deadly fornia wildfires.
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what to watch for when president trump meets world leaders in argentina. a new series, the future of work as robotics and artificial intelligence bece ever more ubiquitous. and a brief but spectacular take ending violence against women. >> woodruff: it's been three weeks since the devastating camp fire swept through paradise, california, leaving 88 people dead, thousands displaced from their homes, and entire communities reeling from the deadliest fire in the state's history. but as william brangham reports, the work continues for survivors as they build a future from the ashes. >> brangham: its raining, in heavy protective
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gear, with shovels a masks and goggles, this is how they search for the missing in paradise, california. the team was alerted that a missing person might've been here during the fire, and so now they move rough the ruins, combing the ash for any trace. they find what appear to be a few tiny bone fragments. they're gingerly passed around, and collected. a forensic anthropologist has been will be called to come determine if they've found what theye looking for. yo >> brangham: how dexplain what a forensic anthropologist is? >> i say what i specialize in is human bones, in particular. and the forensic part means that i assist law enforcement on case work related to human remains. we see smaller teeth, and a smaller face and jaw complex. ngham: colleen milligan a professor at california state university at chico. she often travels across the country doing this work, but this time, the tragedy is much closer to
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>> what you arly trying to be mindful of is that as you move through these searches, you're also moving through some of the most intimate parts of anybody's life. you go through their houses, you go essentially through their commities, you look for thei neighbors, their family members. >> brangham: er community, of course, will likely never be the same again. the fast-moving inferno thatep swt through paradise three weeks ago has deformed and destroyed nearly the whole town. entire businesses are gone. the safeway supermarket isco unreizable. what once were homes are now just piles of ash., it's like thre in paradise, on street after street. whthe thousands of people were lucky enough to escape are now homeless evacuees, try figure out what's next. but as of today, we know that nearly 90 people were not so lucky. but here's t question: where
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are the estimated 190 who are still missing? >> we've got hundreds of people who've been listed as missing, and what we're doing is crossing t's and dotting is, makier sure ne comes home safe and sound. >> brangham: this is how the butte county sheriff'ss departmentying to find out. >> marie? marie? this is deputy angel, butte county sheriff's office, calling >> brangham: working off one master list, this rotating team of over a dozen officers are working the >> ie an elizabeth who lived with you? >> brangham: combing through maps and photographs and social media. >> i might have a line on john mcphee. >> brangham: trying determine: who on this list is actually missing, and who's rsere because of simple er >> it's not a duplicate, it's just a misspelling. >> we're just tryier to exhaust means available to us as investigators and law ying to findust those people. >> brangham: sergeant jason e il helps overis effort, but like many on this team, he's working while his own community is devastated. hail's home in paradise was spared.
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he had to evacuate like everyo else, but several of his colleagues lost everything. >> it's difficult to focus on your job andt the same time your personal life has been totally turned upside down. i've worked for the sheriff's office for 23 years and this ise it's udented anywhere but, when it affects you personally and we havsomething of this magnitude, it is very difficult. >> i'm working missing persons, and i have a donald brown, show >> brangham: when the team can't find ace of a person, those names and addresses are relayed back to the sear teams. a typical house burns at well over 1,000 degrees fahrenheit. with the intense winds that fueled the camp fire, that fire can burn even hotter. that heat can reduce a typical home, along with everything in it, down to just a few inches of ash. and if a person were in that home, finding any trace of them can be extremely difficult.
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>> the types of remains, in this particular instance, range from what is typically seen with most fire where you have some sof there are others that are much closer to what we think of as a cremation ocess. which makes it much, much more difficult to spos in debris piat are largely the same color. >> brangham: not only are searchers looking for bone fragments that could be just an inch or smaller in size, but the very ash they're digging through could have hidden dangers. think ofll the things we have in houses: all the plastics, all the household cleaning supplies, paints, all of our furniture. when you burn that material at a high heat, some of tse things release toxic chemicals. those chemicals can be left behind in that ash, and that can pose a hazard for those who have to dig tough all this. despite all that, the team at this house thinks it's found something. one of milligan's colleagues arrives to inspect the fragments.
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it's a falselarm. they're animal bones, not human. so the team packs up and leaves, off to the nexsite and the next search. >> you would hope that this never happens in your home community, but to be able to assist your community in this capacity, especially when you yes, that certainly mau feel very valuable. and it certainly makes you feel like you are giving something back. >> brangham: but it turns out, yesterday wathe team's last official day in the field. late last night,idhe sheriff sa they've exhausted all possible leads for now. officials won't say what that means for the nearly 190 people who are still accounted for. for the pbs newshour, i'm william brangham in paradise, calirnia. we >> woodruff: aeported
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earlier, president trump will take part in the g-2it of the world's largest economies beginning tomorrow in buenos aires. as nick schifrin reports from the summit's site, a meeting that is supposed to produce a global guide for how countries can work together, is instead exposing global division. >> schifrin: 10 years ago the housing market burst and the world economy crashed. out of that crisis, the g-20 leaders meeting was born, and heads of state or governments that controlled 85% of world g.d.p. came to consensus that prevented economic calamity. but today, after a tense summer of summits, that unity is fragile or prt trump's critics blame him for friendly fire against tu.s. allies. y feel that they cannot trust the united states anymore. this is not just europe, it's very concentted in europe, of course, but our asian allies fe off balance as well. and this is going to take a long time to rebuild that importt
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trust when it's broken. >> schifrin: but the president's defenders say tough talk is less important than policy results, and the g-20 will continue the president's progress on china, >> the argument has been you don't have to berate. but in fact it's been berating that has actually produceds, resund that's the uncomfortable truth. >> schifrin: to try and produceh more resultspresident will vladimir putin, and likely the most consequential-- chinese president xi jinping. >> all eyes within the unitedst es and china and really globally are looking to see whether or not the two largest econies in the world will be able to strike a trade deal. we have not seen the relationship in such a difficult place in decades. >> schifrin: the immediate conflict with china is trade. on january 1, the u.s. is scheduled to raise tariffs on $250 billion of chinese goods from 10% to 25%. mr. trump has threatened additional tariffs on $267 billion of chinese imports, and projects confidence. >> i'm very prepared. i've been preparing for all
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life. you know, it's not like, "oh, gee, i'm going to sit down and study."ow i very ingredient. i know every stat. i know it better than anybody knows itt >> schifrin: tnfidence is echoed by chinese xi, and his implicit criticisms of president trump. >> ( translated esorting to old practices such as protectionism and unilateralism will not resolve problems, and will add to the uncertainties to the global economy. >> we have to recognize that xi jinping is a far more ambitious leader for china and that his vision for china both china internally and in terms of chinese foreign policy is one that is going to bring it into conflict with the united states in fundamentally new and different ways. >> schifrin: elizabeth economy is the council on reign relations' asia director and author of a new book about xi jinping. she says xi reflects china's military, economic, and diplomatic expansion, especially the global multi-trilln dollaral initiatived the belt and road. which is exactly what the trump administration is trying to confront.
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>> we don'drown our partners in a sea of debt. we do not offer a constricting belt or a one-way road. >> schifrin: but with u.s. stoc market swid farmers' concerns about chinese retaliation, president trump'sad sors say he's open to a trade deal. and xi is also under pressure. >> the chinese economy has really begun to feel the effects of this trade war. stock market is down 30%. we've seen that the auto markets and commercial real estate and household real estate are all prt xi has a lot of incentive at this point to try to come to some sort of accommodation. >> schifrin: it's still not clear what sort of accommodation presidents' trump and putin made in july.
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mr. trump looked forward to a meaningful summit with president putin as soon as the situation is involved. the president avoids criticizing president pun directly, critics calling his policy inconsistent. nnelly is the director for strategic international studies and a former state department offional. >> if we work with our allies in if we don't work with our allies, we aren't to accomplish all that we wish to accomplish. and none of that preparatory work haseen done. we are creating this one on one dynamic where the u.s. will have a powerful position, but it could be so much stronger with allies. >> schifrin: but president trump has prioritized personal relationships with leaders from kim jong un, to putin, while his administration's policy confronts russia, by strengthening up nato's presence in europe and imposing sanctions, argues hudson institute senior fellow rebecca heinrichs. >> the policy has been very tough between the united states towards russia under presidente
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trump much m than the he's just not going to openly embarrass him or humiliate him on the world stage. he's trying to have this relationship of mutual respect while the united states continued to be unrelenting in pursuing our interests. >> schifrin: on saudi arabia,tr thp administration says it's pursuing its interests by backing perhaps the most controversial g-20 attendee, saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman, who visited tunisia this week. despite significanprotests, the c.i.a. assessed that m.b.s., as he's widely known, likely ordered the october murder of journalist jamal khashoggi, shortly after he walked into the istanbul consulate. his death was recorded, but national security advisor john bolton this week said he refusea to listen to tio because he wouldn't understand the arabic. >> what, you want me to listent? to what am i going to learn from-- i mean, if they were speaking korean, i wouldn't learn any more from it either. >> most to have the focus in washington is on who is president is supporting. the focus in brenos air ee has
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been on the sherpas, the informal name foriplomats negotiating the final g28 document, e fin blueprint for how the world is supposed to work together. but the day of international unit, diplomats say the talks are difficult. >> u.s. resistance over climatge ch resisting the paris agreement which the u.s. is no longer part of.s g-20 documentsually reject protectionism but this year is watered down. that's another sign u.s. minance is declinic and nationalism and protectionism is increasing. defenders believe this documes, these moments of multi-laterallism aren't as important as naterional intts. >> it's not multi-laterallism is vee problem, it's often you ha such divergent interests of the different parties that it's very difficult to come ton a ocome that's going to benefit the united states in the end. >> but ju as they d last
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year, the g-20 leaders will come together because as the european official put it, sometimes you have no choice but to try to work together. for the pbs newshour, ck schifrin in buenos aires. >> woodruff: will robots take our jobs? or work alongside us? are we doing enough to educate the next generation of workers? how soon will technolo radically change the workforce? these are some of the questions we will be exploring next week, in a series called "the futurek. of w tonight, economics correspondent paul solman starts us off by putting a few of those concerns into perspective, part of our weekly series, "making sense." >> reporter: first, the job scare story you've liknsy heard: millf humans replaced by robots: 75 million of them within five years, says the world economic forum.
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ilbut, it then adds, 133 mon new jobs may be created at the sa time. that's what's called "creative destruction." here's carl fray of oxford university >> this theme has been recurring from time to time for the past 200 years. if you go back to the roman empire, there were people c expressicerns over technological unemployment as well. >> reporter: why? well, for onthing, losing a b really hurts. tman emperor vespasian bu the coliseum without the help of labor saving technology to move heavy columns because it would displace manual labor, threaten civil unrest. remember the luddites, who broke the high tech textile looms of the early 1800s to save their jobs? and were hanged for their efforts. the "washington post" employees who sabotaged automated presses in 1975? h and it's nd to understand why workers are so resistant t"" creative destruction." here's m.i.t.'s andrew macafee. >> change is scary. we humans have a bias for th
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status quo. we don't want the boat rocked really hard easier to focus on the destruction part than the creation part. for a lot of obvious reasons. it's easy to see this job being automated away. it's not as immediately clear what kds of jobs, what kinds of opportunities are being created by technology. >> reporter: study after study has found significant physical and mental health effects of even one layoff, even when the person found another and 's carl fray has estimated that almost half of u.s. jobs are at risk of elimination. >> if economic history provides guidance, it suggests that we will continue to create a lot of new jobs as well. but even if we do, there's no assunce that the people that lose out to automation in the short run e going to be thees mployed in the new jobs that emerge in the long run. >> reporter: anotherroblem with "creative destruction": technological progress; automation: robots: they all threateno amplify inequality, creating more high paying jobs,
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possibly more low-paying jobs, but not nearly enough in between. >> we see technology eating really good jobs, very high paying jobs, really great careers. user interface designer is a great job, data scientist, machine learning specialist, product manager, at a high tech company. these are really, really good jobs, upper middle class and above kinds of jobs. there's also a huge bulge of jobs being created at the low end of the pay scale and these are typically in person jobs, they're typically service jobs. so, we are not creating this great group of big middle class jobs. >> reporter: there's at least one more question worth exploring about the future of work: how fast are things going to change? are the robots and driverless trucks just around the corner, or still miles and miles down the road? again, m.i.t.'s macafee. >> lots of technological changes are going to happen quicker than we think and i say that for two main reans. the first one is that all the elements, all the building
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blocks of ally powerful technology platforms and companies, all tho blocks are improving super quickly. they got networks, processors, storage,andwidth. we got machine -- we got all the building blocks and innovators and entrepreneurs are combining those building blocks in really interesting ways and they're doing it faster and cheaper oran ever b >> reporter: and so these are the questions we'll explore in next week's "future of work" series: can a sml kentucky community that once relied on jobs of the past be transformed into a hub of jobs of the future? will technology and automation hurt minority populations the most? are robots going to take our jobs or will robot helpers, "co- bots," wind up working alongside us? are truck drivers toast? and if so, in what time frame? finally, how much demand will there be for the humanitiein a high tech economy? we will try to answer those questions next week. for now, i'm economics correspondent paul solman.
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>> woodruff: don't miss our entire series of future at wor xt sunday through friday on the next "pbs newshour." >> woodruff: and we'll be back shortly with a survivor of sexual assault on a mienion to violence against women. but first, take a moment to hear from your local pbs station. it's a chance to offer your elps keepwhich programs like ours on the air. >> woodruff: for those stations staying th us, we have a second look at a new exhibit at monticello which examines the laregely-hidden life of sally hemings. now, as jeffrey brown reports, the enslaved woman, who had a decades-long relationship with thomas jefferson and bore him
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six children, is given a new place of prominence at t estate. >> brown: sally hemings: no portrait exists, so we don't know what she lookedike. but now this silhouette and a new exhibition here at monticello bring a largely hidden story into the open and make a definitive public statement about her decades-long relationship with thomas jefferson, the man who owned hes and lantation. nia bate historian of slavery and african-american life. >> we as americans don't address some of the more complex issues of slavery, of sex, of power, ow rship. and that is what is really interesting about sally hemings and her story. we want people to see now that sally hemings is a real person. and that she had a real legacy. >> brown: monticello, built between 1768 and 1808 in charlottesville, virginia, was home to jefferson, third
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president of the united states, writer of the declaration of independence, lightenment thinker, slave owner of more than 600 people.av visitorslong come here to see and admire his mansion and its many wonders. the first tour to focu the enslaved people here only began in 1993. but over the last several decades monticello has slowly expanded the story beyond jefferson, through research and archeological work, to include the vast majority of those who lived and worked her at a site about a half mile from the main house, students in a summer program dug trenches, sifted dirt, and found ceramics, nails, and other artifacts of slaveife. the restoration of" mulberry row" beginning in 2011 opened a window onto the workplaces and houses of enslaved artisans and domestic
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workers. >> i think monticello is a microcosm of the american story, meght. how willing have tcan people been to acknowledge slavery as their history and not enmeone else's history? >> brown: leslie gbowman is president of the thomas jeffnsson foundation, which ow and operes monticello. in 2000 monticello published a report on d.n.a.nd other evidence of jefferson's paternity of hemings' six children, four of wh survived to adulthood. that and work by leading icscholars helped bring pu acceptance. some doubters remain, but experts and monticello itself now consider this a settled matter. >> monticello says he's the father of her children. >> brown: no question. >> no question. >> brown: this summer the foundation opened six new exhibits, including the plantation's first kitchen. but the main new addit in what until now was a public restroom f visitors, is a
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display on the life of sally hemings, in one of the two rooms researchers now believe she lived in. part of her story is told in the words of her son, madison, who gave an oral history of life at monticello in 1873.ll hemings was just 13 or 14 years old when she went to paris as a maidservant, and the relationship with jefferson, then 43, began. when jefferson returned home, she could have stayed in paris as a free woman, but negotiated terms for returning to monticello: that her future children would be freed at age 21. >> what we're trying to do here is to give our visitors everhing that we know. so we've given the basic biography, her birthday, her death day, the days that she was in paris, what she was doing, the type of work, where she lived. but we've also been able to have some of those more complex conversations. again, about the nature of the relationshipwa it consensual? was it love? we don't actually know the answer to the question. >> brown: outside the room, a
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plaque asks, without answering: was it rape? >> it absolutely had to be asked. there's no way that we could talk about sally hemings and thomas jefferson and not talk about the power dynamic between the two of them. he did own her. and it would not be acceptable for us to tell thistory and t address that power imbalance. >> brown: 70-yeaold diana redman is a direct descendent of sally hemings and thomas jefferson. andrew davenport, 28, is thet- great-great-great grandson of sally's brother, peter. >> knowing that i had enslaved relatives, who were heol, who were id in the carpentry, who were involved in the cooking, and the gardening. and so was born, this is where my ancestors lived and labored. it made it feel different for me. >> brown: can you describe the difference? what did you feel? >> i won't say it s a sense of ownership. it was a sense of being. >> brown: a sense of being?
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>> yes, being where my ancestors had been before me, gave me that sense of, okay, we're part of this countrye're part of this growth, we're part of a bigger picture, and i can lay hands on things that they did, the places >> it's my ly i'm white, as well, but this is part of our story. and i would be denying a significant part of my history, and our history, if i didn't own up to the fact that, yes, i may pass as a white man, or whatever you see in me, that's up to you, but i have to identifyving african-american history, and this is my story. >> brown: how do you see both the justices to and the contributions of your ancestors who were here? >> that's the ho, that we can begin to share these stories with a wider world, so that we understand, regardless of the institution of slavery, individuals thrived, personally within their sphere.
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and they made life and love here, too. so this is as complex as ige >> b: monticello officials are also hoping the new exhibits will help attract americans of all races to view their common history. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown at monticello in charlottesville, virginia. >> woodruff: lt sunday was international day for the elimination of violence against women. in tonight's bri but spectacular episode, laura dunn, an attorney who founde "survjustice," a national non- profit that helps sexual assaulm viseek justice, reflects on her experience as a survivor of sexual sault and how it moved her to take action.
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made a decision to sexually assault me. we were drinking and partying like so many freshmen do. i dn't know what to do abut it. i thought rape was by a it was someone who would attack me on the street, and the reality is that most sexual violence is committed by acquaintances, peoplthink you can trust, people you thought you knew. i first turned to the campus asking for them to assist, and title 9 which is a federal law, required them to take action, but they didn't. two parties were drinking, theyt said, we co anything about that, so sexual violence was swept under the beg, like it has for decades. i also sought justice in the tcriminal system, and i wd by the prosecutor that what ippened to me was reprehensible, bwasn't illegal, because in the state of wisconsin,lcohol wasn't considered an intoxicant under the state statute, in other
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words, there's no such thi as being too drunk to consent, and last but certainly not least, i red a civil attorney thinking that that may be the only other avenue of justice available to me that attorney took my money, anh thdid nothing, and by the time i went back, saying what can you do to help, the statute of limitations passed, by being synied justice in the campus, criminal, and civiem, i became a fighter. decided to go to law school to become the attorney i wish i had on campus, i knew that i could be that lawyer for others, i knew i could found an organization like survjustice, to make sure no one felt alone. we want law enforcement to be better at dealing withe survivors,nt colleges to do more to prevent and respond to sexual violence, we even ain judges to better understand these cases and the complex legal issues that arise. so often in dealing with campus sexual assault, we see repeateda erns, we see that those who are victimized were drinking, or maybe they were dating the
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person that ended up assaulting them, and they fear reporting they fear that they will beth judged they will be disbelieved. that they will be shamed by society, i know from my personal experience what it's like not to be believed, after sexual violence. i know what it's like to seek justice and never get it. c feel like nothing's ever going to change. but there's a reason i fight. because i have s i have seen hope. first on campus sexualssault, but i believe that a bigger wave is coming, with #metoo, with no more, with the women's march, there is growing will. there is growing change. and all of us have the opportunity to make a difference on this issu all of us can get justice for survivors by raising our voice and saying this needs to end. my name is laura dunn, and this is my brief but spectacular take on justice after sexual violence.
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