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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good even i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, another guilty plea. this time, president trump's former lawyer michael cohen admits to lying to congress to cover up contacts with russia well into the presidential campaign. then, parase lost. we visit the california town destroyed by wdfire and the desperate search for the missing among the ashes. >> what you are really trying to be mindful of is that as y move through these searches, you're also moving through some of the most intimate of anybody's life. >> woodruff: plus, we are on thn ground in arge as leaders of the world's largest economies gather and president trump faces a numb of flashpoints. l that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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do trump to build a trump tower in moscow. enaving the white house about an hour later, presidt trump slammed his former trust personal lawyer and fixer. p >> he's a weson and what he's trying to do is get a reced sentence.ng so, he's lbout a project that erybody knew about. when i run for president, that doesn't mean i'm not allowed to do business. >> yang: during the campaign, mr. trump repeatedly denied ithaving any business ties russia. >> i have nothing to do with russia, folks. i'll give you a written statement. ing to do. >> yang: cohen admitted lying when he told the house and sete intelligence committe hat the moscow tower project, which began in 201 ended in january 2016, just before the iowa caucuses.wl he ackged that discussions actually went on until at least june 2016, the month before the republican convention. court documents said "cohen made the false statements to minimize
links between the moscow project and individual 1" -- whom cohen identified in court as president trump -- and "in hopes of limiting the ongoing russia investigations."os utors also said cohen briefed trump family members about the project. cohen, who once said he put the interests of the president andve his family ahose of his own, worked for the trump organization for a decade. while he had earlier pleaded guilty to other federal offenses, today's charges came from special counsel robert mueller and included an agreement to cooperate in his probe of russian interference in the 2016 election. this week, mueller als ratcheted up pressure on former trump campaign chairman paul mafort, alleging that he breached his plea deal by repeatedly lying to investigators. even as the president vilified cohen, he said a presidential pardon for manafort is not out of the question. >> about how no one had been treated as badly as he has been treated.
>> yang: ocapitol hill, the top democrat on the house intelligence committee said he's thncerned the testimony of witnesses. >> i think michael cohen's guilty plea also underscores the importance of something else, and that is: we believe other witnesses were untruthful before our committee. we want to share those transcripts with mr. mueller. >> yang: some republicans, like louisiana senator john kennedy, say e mueller investigation shouldn't drag on. >> it's been 17 months now and the american people are entitled to know what happened and who if anybody broke the law. >> yang: this week, the senate blocked legislation to protect the mueller investigation. for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang. >> woodruff: to explain what cohen's plea agreement could tell us out the mueller investigation, garrett graff. c he'stributor to "wired magazine" and the author of "th: threat matnside robert mueller's f.b.i. and the war on global terror."
garrett graff, welcome back to the program. what does all this add up to, what we learned today from what robert mueller said? >> yeah, this is an incredibly significant developmnd it becomes more significant as the day passes and its true meaning sets in. robert mueller in his investigation has uncovered two separate crimina conspiracies that aided donald trump's ection in 2016, one was run by the russian government involving the hacking attacks on the d.n.c. and information operations on facebook and twitter, and the other was a criminal conspiracy around campaign fines violation led by michael cohen himself. today what this guilty plea ans is that the centrgure in one of those criminal conspiracies reached out to and sought the ad of the central
figure vladimir putin in the other criminal conspiracy so this is beginning to paint a picture of a coordinated effort t we havexactly wha been wondering about all along. >> woodruff: so this goes beyond, garrett graff, what people were thinking was the main foc of the mueller investigation and that is russian interference in the u.s. >> well, it's not -- this is the central focus. it doesn't go beyond that. this is getting to the core of that queson, sort of what did russia do, who helped them, and what americans participated in the russian criminal conspiracy and, obviously, the michael cohen charges thus far seem unrelated, but what we are beginning to see is that the trump organization was trying to engage inrect conversation with the office ofussian
president vladimir putin well into the 2016 presidential campaign and, notably, one to have the things bob mueller highlights i,his documen sort of one of those dates he presents without comment in the charging docents but it seems significant, this deal only died on june 14th, 2016, which was the day that the d.n.c. hacks became public. at's the day that michael cohen decided he was no longer pursuing the trump tower project in moscow. >> woodruff: so how close is president trump now identified as being to whatever went on between his campaign -- or apparently went on between his mpaign and the russian government? >> well, what we do know is that donald trump has now been named twice in court documents, and ey are both related to michael cohen, that michael n has his out of his way in both plea agreement in august and in
today's court appearance to say was acing at the direction of donald trump. additionally in the court cuments today we see that michael cohen is saying that he kept the trump family up to datu the progress of this project. so, presumably, that includes potentially donald trump, jr.,ru perhaps ericmp, perhaps even jared kushner. >> woodruff: what does it tell you, garrett graff, that robert mueller signed today's agreement, announcement? >> yeah, i mean, we sort of have to read the tea leaves of every action in this investigation because we are nogetting any leaks from inside robert mueller's team. soink that there are a couple of things to read into today's criminal filing. one is robert mueller sees someone lying to congress about russia a under his purview.
that's potential very bad nws for anyone else who was involved in testifying beore the house or the senate over the last two years who lied in their testimony. you heard in that taped packa that there's potentially others who are exposed in thatalm. and this is also a case -- you remember all the other michael cohen prosecutions up to this point have been handled by prosecutors in the southern district of new york, so te s is rst time that robert mueller is stepping in and putting his own stmp on the case g2 g20 -- case ainst michal cohen and saying we intend to have michael cohen as a cooperate rarity going forward. he's given about 70 hours of testimony and meetingwith robert mueller's team so far. this is the first time we've seen public evidence of it. i don't think it's going to be the last time we see michael cohen appearing in court evidence. >> woodruff: last friday,t was announced president trump
had submitted hi answers to robert mueller, to the special counsel, and then, over the past period of days, almost every day there's been another development out of the mueller office. where do you see this going right now? >> well, i think what we're seeing is mueller very carefully was not rockg the boat until he had those trump writtend. answers in ha now he's charging forward on a variety of fronts. we've seen tremendous movement this week also around sort this nexus of roger stone, jerome coarsey and julian assange inhe questions of wikileaks role in releasing those democratic stolen e-mails. >> woodruff: garrett graff joining us once again. thank you very much. my pleasure. >> woodruff: now reaction from capitol hill. >> woodruff: now reaction from capitohill. congressman eric swalwell is a democrat from california. he sits on the house intelligence committee to which michael cohen admits he lied.
congressman, what's your reaction to this? >> good evening, judy. this is just one of i think what will be many lis that will be prosecuted by bob mueller, and i say that because, buried beneath the capal at the house intelligence committee are pages of lies from witnesses who testified, andeir transcripts sit there right now, and notab bein to go to bob mueller despite democratic efforts to try to release them to bob mueller does a nunez andd republicans voainst themselves. these are going to right to the special counsel and i expt more indictments. >> woodruff: are you saying you have some sense of who else may have lied to your committee >> yes, ifhat michael cohen has told the special counsel now and has resulted in hislea, there's a lot of other witnesses who are in a similar position where they weren't straight with committee, and it looks like bob mueller, who has the subpoena
power we're not able to use because the republicans blocked it was able to find that so we hopeo get those transpripts as soon as possible to the special counsel. >> woodruff: so, congressman, based on this and the othveer pments we're seeing this week in recent days, where does your committee go next? what are the questions you next have that you want answers to? >> we want to fill in thes. gap we don't want to be reddant and cover areas mueller already covered but that includes money laundering. rank and membership has been pretty straightforward that he believes and i share his belief that there is a lot of evidence that the russians for decades uught to do bsiness with donald trump and he has sought to do business with them, but we werelocked from subpoenaing deutsche banc and other ban t to see re is a financial relationship between russian oligarchs and the president, also the trump tower meeting alluded to in the document, the date june 9th being put in the
indictment, we know a couple of days before the meeting, don, jr. made a phone call to russia and then made a call that was blocked on the cell phone transcript that we have and theb callk to russia. we have strong evidence that suggests that might be communication between donald, jr. and his father, which would give knowledge by ndidate trump of the meeting that they have so far denied he ever knew about. >> woodruff: well, let me ask you about the financial question, the money laundering allegations that you're referring to. to what extent can the president be held accountable, be held cuppable if there is evidence of money laundering? because the president has said, as president, he can't be prosecuted for financial dealings. >> that's right. and our job is not to be prosecutors. i see our job now with the subpoena power is to essentially intervene where we can protect domestic and foreign policy. weee whether it's with th saudis and the prior fialnan dealings there that's driving
foreign policy or the russians that if we shine shine a light on his prior financial actions we can prevent some worst instincts from materializing that we ren't able to do before. >> woodruff: what do you mean by his worst instincts? >> typically, i think presidents govern on their values and american values, and we see a esident who has governed by transactions rather than values, and those transactions have allowed, for example, the saudis, a.s. resident killed on n.a.t.o. soil and we've we've done almost nothing to punish the cohtry who did tat and we found a relationship between the president and saudis. he's undermining the intelligence fdings with respect with respect to russia and we know the president had trademarks he sought in russia before and this plea that michael cohen lay us out a mega
development deal he was trying to do during the campaign with the russia's.>> oodruff: congressman. you know president denied any impropriety with russia or saudi arabia. he called this a witch hunt, the democrats are out to get him and so on. south going to take hard evidence, and there isn't that hard evidence yet, is there? >> well, i think the indictments speak much louder than the president's denials, and bob mueller continues to rack up indictments that show that there was an eagerness and a willingness to work with the russians, that this wasrr ocg during the campaign while they are also seeking business deals and, by the way, when they were confronted about it by congress and special counsel, the trump team lied and that i think goes to a consciousness ofuilt and that's all the more reason we should protect bob mueller and continue this investigf:ion. >> woodrre you planning to call more witness before the committee? >> we don't want to be redundant. we want to call witnesses who were blocked from being called
before and a lot of tho witnesses relate to testing the testimony that we've already heard. we took tese witnesses their word, and they weren't worthy of being taken at their wrd. so now we can contact third-party providers and vendors and subpoena their records to see if what roger stone an donald trump, jr. and michael cohen were saying was truer not, and i thnk that's what we're -- where we're really going to fill in the >> woodruff: and i think for the public watching this, it can be confusing at times, so look at the mueller track, what the special counsel is doing, and then, separately, what the house and senate investigations are doing. how can you clarify that? >> and, judy, i think the whole country has gotten a ph.d. in russian studies that none of us signed up for, but what we can do and or responsibility to do is to protect our democracy and otect the future. we know the russians intend to continue to attack r democracy. we shouldn't see ourselves as prosecutors. we should seeourselves as guardians of the democracy to make sure that when we have a presidential election in two hayears that it is oneis
free and fair from russian interference or any othery. coun >> and, so, for people who are saying, wait a minute, why not let the mueller investigationoc d, why do the politicians have to be involved, how do you answer i >> a great question. bob mueller can only tell the public what he can prove beyond a reasonable doubt and there are a lot of gaps beten what he can prove because of evidencery reasons and what we can learn from trump conduct. bob mueller's jobs are to look for crimes. where there are gaps just as after the september 11 commission, making ourselves sar in the skies with congressional reforms, we have the same duty now. >> woodruff: congressman eric swalwell, memberhf te house intelligence committee. thank you very much. >> my pleasure.
>> woodruff: in the day's other news, president trump canceled a demeeting with russian pre vladimir putin, at the upcoming g-20 summit. he tweeted his decision, after leaving for argentin in it, he cited russia's seizure of three ukrainian ships and 24 sailors near occupied crimea. the president said he decided that "it would be best fors ll partncerned to cancel." that came less than an hourte he said he was still open to meeting with putin. ukrainian president petro poroshenko called today for nato to send more warships to the crimean region. but a nato spokesperson said the alliance already has a strong presence there. the kremlin complained that poroshenko is trying provoke new trouble. president trump is giving out mixed signals trade tensions with china, ahead of meeting with china's president at the g- 20. it comes as "the wall street journal" reports washington might be willing to suspend further tariffs, in exchange for economic reforms by china.
thaving the white house for buenos aires today president suggested he could go either way. >> i think we're very close tog domething with china but i don't know that i want to do it. nbecause what we have rig is billions and billions of dollars coming into the u.s. in the form of tariffs or taxes. so i really don't know but i will tell you that i think china wants to make a deal. i'm open to making a deal. but frankly i like the deal we have right now. >> woodruff: meanwhileitbeijing todaized the u.s. for sailing two navy warships through the taiwan strt. a destroyer and a cruiser passed through on monday.a chinclaims taiwan and theg surroundters as its territory. there's word that china is tracking electric cars within its borders, raising new concerns about sweeping surveillance. the associated press reports that more than 200 companies, including tesla, ford and general motors, transmit the
data to monitoring centers, in accordance with chinese laws. chinese officials say the data is used to improve public safety. beijing also moved today to stop a medical team's work on gene- edited babies. that's after a chinese researcher claimed he created twins with altered d.n.a. to resist the aids virus. china's vice minister of science atd technology said today his agency has ordered the work halted. >> ( translated ): the gene- edited babies reported by they media obviouolates china's relevant laws and regulations, it also crossed the line of morality and ethics adhered to by the academic community, which is shocking and unacceptable. we are firmly against this. >> woodruff: the researcher's claims have not beenin pendently confirmed. but he said today he will cooperate fully with any investigation, and make his data available for outside review. back in this country, a hotly contested nomination for a
federal judgeship in north carolina may have gone dfen to . attorney thomas farr had been criticizedor defending state laws that were biased against black citizens. late today, south carolina republican senator tim scott announced he will vote "no." that ensures farr cannot gain a majority, if no other votes change. flash flooding hit parts of northern california today as a new rainstorm drenched areas burned bare by wildfire. rescue teams deployed to aid people trappedn cars. meanwhile, crews continued clearing debris and restoring electrical power on theou kirts of paradise. the town was largely destroyed by fire this month. deaths in the united states hit a record high last year: 2.8 million.th centers for disease control and prevention blames drug
ovsdoses and the most suici in 50 years it says as a result, life exp the second time in three years. a baby born in 2017 is now expected to live an average of 78 yea and seven months. u.s. officia now say 42 migrants arrested in a border clash near tijuana, will not be charged with illegal entry into the u.s. they managed to cross during sunday's melee between migrants who threw rocks, and border t agents who firr gas. the ultimate fate of the 42 is still unclear. and, on wall street, stocks slipped a little after wednesday's big rally. the dow jones industrial average lost 27 points to close 25,338.sd the na fell 18 points, and the s&p 500 was down six. still to come on the newshour: a desperate search for those still missing after the deadly california wildfires.
what to watch for when president trump s world leaders in argentina. a new series, the future of work as robotics and artificial intelligence become ever more ubiquitous. and a brief but spectacular takn on ending viol against women. >> woodruff: it's been three weeks since the devastating camp fire swept through paradise, california, leaving 88 people deadthousands displaced from their homes, and entire communitiereeling from the deadliest fire in the state's history. but as william brangham reports, the work continues for survivors as they build a future from the ashes. >> brangham: its 10 a.m., it'sn raininheavy protective gear, with shovels and masks and
goggles, this is how they search for the missing in paradise, california. the team was alerted that a missing person might'v here during the fire, and so now they move through the ruins, ppmbing the ash for any trace. they find what ar to be a few tiny bone fragments. they're gingerly passed around, and collected. a forensic anthropologist has been will be called to come determine if they've found what they're looking for. >> brangham: how do you explain what a forensic anthropologist is? is i say what i specialize i t man bones, in particular. and the forensic pans that i assist law enforcement on case work related to human remains. we see smaller teeth, and a smaller face and jaw complex. >> brangham: colleen milligan is a professor at california state university at chico. she often travels across the country doing this work, but this time, the tragedy is much closer to home.
>> wt you are really trying be mindful of is that as you move through these searches, you're ao moving through some of the most intimate parts of anybody's life. you go through their houses, you go essentially through their communities, you look for theire neighbors, t family members. >> brangham: her community, ll course, wi likely never be the same again. the fast-moving inferno that swept through paradise three weeks ago has deformed andly destroyed nearhe whole town. entire businesses are gone. the safeway supermarket is unrecognizable. what once were homes are now just piles of ash. it's like this, here in paradise, on street after street. the thousands ofeople who were lucky enough to escape are now homeless evaees, trying to figure out what's next.t of today, we know that nearly 90 people were not so lucky. but here's the question: whe are the estimated 190 who are
still missing? >> we've got hundreds of people who've been listed as missing,an what we're doing is crossing t's and dotting is, making sure everyone comes home safe and sound. brangham: this is how th butte county sheriff's department is trying to find out. >> marie marie? ffis is deputy angel, butte county sheriff'se, calling >> brangham: working off one master list, this rotating team of over a dozen officers working the phones. >> is there an elizabeth who lived with you? >> brangham: combing through maps and photographs and social media. >> i might have a line on john mcphee. >> brangham: trying to determine: who on this list isly actuissing, and who's there because of simple errors. >> it's not a duplicate, it's just a misspelling. bl we're just trying to exhaust every means avaito us as investigators and law of things, just trying to findpe those le. >> brangham: sergeant jason hail helps oversee this effort, but like many on this team, he's working while his own community is devastated. hail's home in paradise was spared. he had to evacuate like everyone
else, but several of his colleagues lost everything. >> it's difficult to focus on your job and at the same tim your personal life has been totally turned upside down. i've worked for the sheriff's office for 23 years and this is, it's unprecedented anywhere but, when it affects you personally and we have something of this magnitude, it is very difficult. >> i'm working missing persons, and i have a donald brown, show >> brangham: when the team can't find any trace of a pe those names and addresses are relayed back to the search teams. a typical house burns at well over 1,000 degrees fahrenheit. with the intense winds that fueled the camp fire, that fire can burn even hotter. that heat can reduce a typical home, along with everything in it, down to just a few inches of ash. and if a person were in that home, finding any trace of them can be extremely difficult. >> the types of remains, in this
particular instance, range from what is typically seen with most fires, where you have some soft chere are others that are closer to what we think of as a cremation process. which makes it much, much more difficult to spot in debris piles that are largely the same color. >> brangham: not only are searchers looking for bone s that could be just an inch or smaller in size, but the very ash they're digging through could have hidden dangers. think of all the things we have in houses: all the plastics, all the household cleaning supplies, paints, all of our furniture. when you burn that material at a high heat, some of those things release toxic chemicals. those chemicals can be left behind in that ash, and that can pose a hazard for those who have to dig through all this. despite all that, the team at this house thinks it's found mething. one of milligan's colleagues arrives to inspect the fragments. it's a false alarm.e
they'rimal bones, not human. so the team packs up and leaves, off to the next site and the next searc >> you would hope that this never happens in your home community, but to be able to assist your community s capacity, especially when you yes, that ceainly makes you feel very valuable. and it certainly makes you feel like you are giving something back.ng >> bm: but it turns out, yesterday was the team's last official day in the field. late last night, the sheriff said they've exhaust all possible leads for now. officials won't say what that means for the nearly 190 people who are still unaccounted for.pb for s newshour, i'm william brangham in paradise, california. >> woodruff: as we reported earlier, president trump will
take part in the g-20 summit of the world's largest economies beginning tomoow in buenos aires. as nick schifrin reports from the summit's site, a meeting that is supposed to produce a global guide for how countries cawork together, is instea exposing global division. >> schifrin: 10 ye housing market burst and the world economy crashed. t of that crisis, the g-20 leaders meeting was born, and of state or governments that controlled 85% of world g.d.p. came to consensus thaton prevented ic calamity. but today, after a tense summer of summits, that unity is fragile or non-existent. president trump's critics blamed him for fr fire against u.s. allies. >> they feel that they cannot trust the united states anymore. this is not just europ it's very concentrated in europe, of course, but our asian allies feel off balance as well.is and s going to take a long time to rebuild that important
trust when it's oken. >> schifrin: but the president's defenders y tough talk is less important than policy results, and the g-20 will continue the president's progress on china, >> the argument has been you don't have to berate. bungin fact it's been berati that has actually produced results, and that's the uncomfortable trh. >> schifrin: to try and produce moreesults, the president wi vladimir putin, and likely the most consequential-- chinese president xi jinping. nd all eyes within the united states and chinaeally globally are looking to see whether or not the two largest economies in the world will be able to strike a trade deal. we have not seen t relationship in such a difficult place in decades. >> schifrin: the immediate conflict with china is trade. on january 1, the u.s. is scheduled to raise tariffs on $250 billion of chinese goods from 10% to 25%. mr. trump has threatened additional tariffs on $267 billion of chinese imports, and prects confidence. >> i'm very prepared. i've been preparing for it all my life. you know, it's not like, "oh, ge i'm going to sit down a
study." i know every ingredient. i know every stat. i i knbetter than anybody knows it. >> schifrin: that confidence is echoed by chinese xi, and his implit criticisms of preside trump. >> ( translated ): resorting to old practices such as protectionism and unilateralism will not resolveroblems, and will add to the uncertainties to the global economy. >> we have to recogne that xi jinping is a far more ambitious leader for china and that sis for china both china internally and in terms of chinese foreign policy is one that is going to bring it into conflict with the united states in fundamentally new and different ways. >> schifrin: elizabeth enomy is the council on foreign relations' asia director and author of a new book about xi jinping. e says xi reflects china military, economic, and diplomatic expansion, especially the global multi-trillion dollar nditiative called the belt road. which is exactly what the trump administration is trying to cfront.
>> we don't drown our partne in a sea of debt. we do not offer a constricting belt or a one-way road. >> schifrin: but with u.s. stock market swings and farmers' concerns about chineseta ation, president trump's advisors say he's open to a trade deal. and xi is also under pressure. >> the chinese economy has t really begfeel the effects wn this trade war. stock market is 0%. we've seen that the aukets and commercial real estate and household real estate are all do. president xi has a lot of incentive at this point to try come to some sort of accommodation. >> schifrin: it's still not clear what sort of accommodation presidents' trump and putin made in july.
mr. trump looked forward to a meaningful summit with president putin as soon as the situation is involved. the president avoids iticizing president putin directly, critics calling his policy inconsistent. connelly is the director for strategic international studies and a former state department official. ou if we don't work wit allies >> if we don't work with our allies, weren't going to accomplish all that we wish to accomplish. and none of that preparatory work has been done. we are creating this one on one dynamic where the u.s. will have a powerful position, but it could be so much stronger wi allies. >> schifrin: but president trump ha relationships with leaders from kim jong un, to putin, while his administration's policy confronts russia, by strengthening up nato's presenc in europe posing sanctions, argues hudson institute senior fellow rebecca heinrichs. >> the policy has been very tough between the unittes towards russia under president
p much more so than the he's just not going to openly embarrass him or humiliate him on the world stage. he's trying to have this relationship of mutual respect while the united states continued to be unrelenting in pursuing our interests. ti schifrin: on saudi arabia, the trump administ says it's pursuing its interests by backing perhaps the most controversial g-20 attendee, saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman, who visited tunisia this week. despite significant protests, the c.i.a. assessed that m.b.s., as he's widelynown, likely ordered the october murder of journalist jamal khashoggi, shortly after he walked into tla istanbul con. ads death was recorded, but national securitsor john bolton this week said he refused to listen to the audio because he wouldn't understand the arabic. >> what, you want me to listen to it? sat am i going to learn from-- i mean, if they weaking korean, i wouldn't learn any more from it either.av >> most tothe focus in washington is on who is president is supporting. the focus in brenos air ease has been on the sherp, the
informal name for diplomats negotiating the fi2nal8 document, the final blueprint for how the world is suposed to work together. but in the days of internation unit, diplomats say the talks ficult. >> u.s. resistance over climate change resisting the paris agreement which the u.s. is no longer part of. g-20ocuments usually reject protectionism but this year isre wadown. that's another sign u.s. dominance is delinic and nationalism and protectionism is increasing. fenders believe this documents, these moments of multi-laterallism aren't as important as national interests. >> it's not multi-laterallism is the problem, it's often you havd suergent interests of the different parties that it's very difficult to come ton a out'scoe thoing to benefit the united states in the end. >> but just as they did last year, the g-20 leaders will come
together because as the european official put it, sometimes you have no choice but to try to work together. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin in buenos aires. >> woodruff: will robots take our jobs? or work alongside us? are we doing enough to educate the next generation of workers? how soon will technologyy radicaange the workforce? these are some of the questions we will be exploring next week,e in a scalled "the future of work."cs tonight, eco correspondent paul solman starts us off by into perspective, part of our weekly series, "making sense." >> rorter: first, the job scare story you've likely heard: millions of humans replaced by robots: 75 million of them within five years, says the world economic forum. but, it then adds, 133 million
new jobs may be crea the same time. that's what's called "creative destruction." here's carl fray of oxford university.s >> teme has been recurring from time to time for the past 200 years. if you go back to the romane empire, thre people expressing concerns over technological unemployment as well. >> reporter: why? well, for one thing, losing a job really hurts. roman emperor vespasian built the coliseum without the help of laer saving technology to m heavy columns because it wouldl displace manbor, threaten civil unrest. remember the luddites, who brokh high tech textile looms of the early 1800s to save their jobs? and were hanged for their efforts. the "washington post" employees who sabotaged automated presses in 1975? and it's not hard to understand why workers are so resistant t"" creative destruction." here's m.i.t.'s andrew macafee. >> change is scary. we humans have a bias for the status quo we don't want the boat rocked
really hard and it's alwaysfo easier ts on the destruction part than the creation part. for a lot of obvious reasons. it's easy to see this job being tomated away. it's not as immediately clear what kinds of jobs, what kinds of opportunities are being eated by technology. >> reporter: study after study has found significant physicea and mental hh effects ofne even oayoff, even when the person found another job. and oxford's carl fray estimated that almost half of u.s. jobs are at risk of elimination. >> if economic historyrovides guidance, it suggests that we will continue to create a loof new jobs as well. but even if we do, there's no assurance that the peoe that lose out to automation in the short run are going to be th ones employed in the new jobs that emerge in the long run. >> reporter: another problem with "creative destruction": technological progress; automation: robots: they all threaten to amplify inequality, creatingore high paying jobs, possibly more low-paying jobs,
but not nearly enough in between. >> we see technology creating really good jobs, very paying jobs, really great careers. user interface designer is great job, data scientist, machine learning specialist, product manager, at a tech company. these are really, really good jobs, upper middle class and above kinds of jobs. there's also a huge bulge of jobs being created at the low end of the pay scale and these are typically in person jobs, they're typically service jobs.c so, we are nating this great group of big middle class jobs. >> reporter: there's at least one more question worth exploring about the future of work: how fast are things going to change? are the robots and driverless trucks just around the corner, or still mes and miles down the road? again, m.i.t.'s macafee. >>esots of technological cha are going to happen quicker than we think and i say that for two main reasons. the first one is that all the elements, all the building blocks of really powerful
technology platforms and companies, all those building i blocks aroving super quickly. they got networks, processors, storage, bandwidth. we got machine -- we got all the building blocks and innovators and entrepreneurs are combining those building blocks in interesting ways and they're doing it faster and cheaper than ever before. >> reporter: and so these are the questions we'll explore in next week's "future of work" series: can a small kentucky community that once relied on jobs of the past be transformed into a hubbs of the future? will technology and automation m huority populations the most? are robots going to take our jobs or will robot helpers, "co- bots," wind up wking alongside us? are truck drivers toast? and if so, in what time frame? finally, how much demand will there be for the humanities in i tech economy? we will try to answer those questions next week. for now, i'm economicst correspondul solman.
>> woodruff: last sunday wasy international r the elimination of violence against women. in tonight's brief but spectacular episode, laura dunn, an attorney who founded "survjustice," a national non- profit that helps sexual assault victims seek justice, reflects on her experience as a survivor of sexual assault and how itve exr to take action.
made a decision toually assault me we were drinking and partying like so many freshmen do. i didn't know what to do about it. i thought rape was by a it w someone who would attac me on the street, and the reality is that most sexual violence is committed by acquaintances, people you think you can thought you knew. i first turned to the campus asking for them to assist, and title 9 which is a federal law, required them to take , but they didn't. two parties re drinking, they said, we can't do anything about that, so sexual violence was swept under the rug, like it has been for decades. i also sought justice in the criminal system, and i was told by the prosecutor that what happened to me was reprehensible, but it wasn't illegal, because in the state of wisconsin, alcohol wasn't
considered an intoxicant under the state statute, in other words, there's no such thing as being too drunk to consent, and last but certainly not least, i gired a civil attorney think that that may be the only other avenue of justice available to me. that attorney took my money, and then he did nothing, and by thei i went back, saying what can you do to help, the statutet of lions passed, by being denied justice in the campus, criminal, and civil system, iht became a f. i decided to go to law school or become the ay i wish i had on campus, i knew that i could be that lawyer for others, i knew i could found an organization like survjustice, to make sure no one felt alone. th want law enforcement to be better at dealing survivors, we want colleges to do more to prevent and respondex tol violence, we even train judges to better understand these cases and thel complex lesues that arise. so often in dealing with campus sexual assault, we see repeated patterns, we see that those who
are victimized were drinking, or maybe they were dating the person that ended up assaulting y em, and they fear reporting they fear that tll be judged, that they will be disbelieved. that they will be shamed by society, i know from my personal experience what it's like not to be believed, after sexual violence. i know what it's like to seek justice and never get it. it can feel like nothing's evee. going to cha but there's a reason i fight. because i have seen change. i have seen hope. first on campus sexual assault, but i believe that a bigger wave is coming, with #metoo, wi more, with the women's march, there is growing change. a d all of us have the opportunity to makfference on this issue. all of us can get justice for survivors by raising our voice and saying this needs to end. my name is laura dunn, and this lais my brief but spectacur take on justice after sexual
violence. >> woodruff: thank you, laura dunn. you can find additional brief but spectacular episodes on our website, pbs.org/newshour/brief. on the newshour online, we have updates to our in-depth timeline of the investigation into russn attempts to influence the 2016 election, includingew a th more is on our web site, pbs.org/newshour. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening when mark shields and david brooks breakdown the political for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you on. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> kevin. >> kevin! >> kevin. >> advice for li life well-planned.
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