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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> nawaz: good evening, i'm amna nawaz. judy woodruff is away.on he "newshour" tonight, confronting racism-- the controversy around virginia governor ralph northam's yearbook photo sparks outrage, exposing the painful legacy of blackface in america. then, a divided kingdom-- i sit down with scottish first minister nicola sturgeon ahead ve the looming deadline for britain to lhe european union. plus, money, deception and a young putin. a new play unpacks a critical power grab after the collapse of the soviet union. >> i think it's incredibly relevant because i think it's about powerful men who want the things that they want and sometimes they want good things and sometimes they want bad things and sometimes ethics-they're willing to bend their ethics to get them regardless.
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in nawaz: the governor of virginia is stilffice tonight, but his capital is in chaos. democrat ralph ntham has faced a firestorm of criticism since friday, when his medical school yearbook surfaced showing one peon in a k.k.k. hood, and another in blackface. northam first apologized, then denied he's in the photo, but said he has appeared in blackface on another occasion. we'll have a report on all of this, after the news summary. the president of iraq, barham salih, slammed president trump today for suggesting u.s. troops will stay in iraq to monitor in anterview, mr. trump said: "i want to be looking a little bit at iran because iran li a real problem." in baghdad today, said iraq had not been consulted, and that u.s. troops are there onlmi to fight ext groups. >> ( translated ): they are here for a specific mission combating
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terrorism, isis d they have no other definition or defined mission beyond helping iraqi forces in the fight against terrorism. >> nawaz: salih also said iraq's henstitution forbids using country as a base to threaten other nations. leaders from at least 10 european nations today ition leaderpp juan guiado as interim president of venezuela. they said nicolas maduro'sud election was fent, and demanded he surrender his office. in caracas, guiado hailed the european countries' decision to join the u.s. and others in backing him. >> ( translated ): february 4th from now on will be remembered as the day the world recognized the sacrifice and the struggle for liberty in venezuela. now february 4th is absolutely about civic-mindedness, non- violence, and about recognizing every venezuelan who never stopped believing. >> nawaz: maduro rejected the european
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el sr has elected a 37- year-old reformer and former mayor of san salvador as itssi next prent. d yib bukele ran as a third party candidate sily won on sunday. he promised to clean up on and stamp out gang violence. those problems have led thousands of salvadorans to lee their country. about one million now live in the u.s. ofpe francis today appealed to religious leaderll faiths to reject violence. he spoke in abu dhabi, on the first-ever papal visit to the arabian peninsula, the birthplace of islam. francis met with leadersf the united arab emirates, and visited the grand mosque. and, he told an inter-faith gathering: "god is with eaose who seek." >> ( translated ): together, brothers in the one humily desired by god, let us commit ourselves against the logic of armed power, against the monetization of relations, the armaments of borders, the raising of walls, the gagging of the poor. >> naw: francis will finish
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his trip tomorrow with a papal mass that's expected to draw some 135,000 people. back in this country, blizza and avalanche warnings are up across parts of california and nevada. the sierra nevada range got eight feet of snow over the weekend, with more expected through tuesday night. that weekend storm also triggered flash floods and mudslides across southern california, from hillsidesed buare by wildfires. president trump has formallyvi nominated bernhardt to be secretary of the interior. ow the acting secretary. bernhardt has lobbying ties to u.s. energy companies, and had been a deputy to ryan zinke, o resigned as interior secretary in december, amid ethics investigations. and, on wall street, stocks gained on a broad front as several tech and industrial companies reported stronger earnings. the dow jones industrial average gained 175 points to close at 25,239. the nasdaq rose 83 points, and the s&500 added 18.
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still to come on the newshour: the painful history of the racist behavior memorialized in virginia governor ralph northam's yearbook. a conversation with sc first minister nicola sturgeon about leaving the european union. amokwalter and tamara keith ahead to the state of the union, plus much more. n az: as we reported earlier, shifting explanations from virginia's governor in response to a racist photo uncovered in his medical school year book. yamiche alcindor reports on the pressure governor ralph northam faces. >> we demand your resignation. >> alcindor: a governor under and a ate reeling. this morning, outside virginia governor ralph northam's official resence, one sign carried a message he heard all weekend: resign. but, northam has refused to step
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down. instead, at the virginia statehouse today, he met with his staff. that didt stop the republican house speaker from adding his voice to a chorus of people demanding that northam turn his resignation. >> regaress of the veracity of the photograph, the governor's lost the confidence of the people and cannot effectively govern. >> alcindor: the photograph appears on northam's page onolis medical scearbook from 1984. it shows two people looking the camera, one in blackface wearing a hat, bow tie and plaid pants; the other in a ku klux klan robe. friday evening, northam said that he was indeed in the photon he apologized. >> that photo and the racist and ofnsive attitudes it represents does not reflect that person i am today or the way that i have conducted myself as a soldier, a doctor, and a public servant. i am deeply sorry. >> alcindor: but less than 24 hours later, he reversed course. >> i tell the truth, i'm telling the truth today.
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that was not my picture in the photo. >> alcindor: during a saturday press conference, he said he was positive he was not in thepi ure. he also refused to resign. the governor did admit that he wore blackface on different occasion in 1984. in san antonio at a dance, hed" said he "darkeis face with black shoe polish to look like michael jackson. throughout the weekend, the governor faced mounting pressure from all sides to step down. those calling for him to leave office include virginia's republican and democratic srties, the commonwealth' democratic house and senate caucuses, its atusrney general, the state's two democratic senators, mark warner and tim kaine and democratic national committee chair tom perez. at least five democratic presidential candidates also called for northam to step down. on sunday, n.a.a.c.p. president derrick johnson also said he should resign. >> whether he actively participated or passively wa present. he did not up until this point acknowledged that this took
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place, objected to that behavior or stated that you know i was brought up in a different upbringing and i was a part of a southern culture that embraced this racist, vile behavior and i'm a changed man now. >> alcindor: next in line to replace northam is the current lieutenant governor, a 39-year- old african-american lawyer.he last month, inirginia senate, fairfax protested the celebration of robert e. lee's birthday. but, fairfax also faces potential trouble. a woman alleges he sexually assaulted her. fairfax said today the claim is a "uncorroborated smear."to iscuss how governor northam fits into a larger conversation about race in america, i'm joined by mark anthony neal. he's a professor of african and african american studies at duke university and the author of several books including "new black man." also joining me is vann newkirk. he writes about politics and policy for the atlantic. now, thank you both for joining me. i want to first talou a little bit about black face. this has been something used to
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mock and dehumanize african-esericans for dec let's look at this. ♪ oupplause) mark, first to. for people who don't understand, why is that so offeive? >> it's caricature of black life. before the preelectronic area, before televisn, radio d even film, black face minstreon she's wa of the most famous forms of entertainment in the early 20th century and it wa about dehumanizing black folks. >> black face seems to be the line folks have crossed and said this is why we're not going to have people talk about or joke about black face. why do you think that ine is there? >> i think like, mark said, givethe fac the history that it was a staple of exclusionary and racist rege of media, it's
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one we all know well to b racist. so, i think when people go and act out and continually do it, it's kind of the easiestne to spot and root out. and i think people react so vehemently about it because there's no real defense of it as any type of legitimate art. it is cpletely racist and we know it to be so. >> congressman steve king, mark, still has a job after questioning whether orhe term white supremacy should be offensive. donald trump has been called a rahest by naacp. why doing those men keep their iobs and there's swift and widespread condemnof governor northam? >> eth about the optics. when you think abo the president or congressman king, you think go back and forth about how these people were misinterpreted, but when you see the optics of black fac there's no way to get around it. for the most part, it hasn't been in the public sphere since
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the mid 1950s. it's largely gone underground. because of social media, now, it's so much easier to go back and track where it's beend underground ve it bubble up in public in ways we haven't seen before and it's a reminder of a racist past folks don't want to absolutely deal with even though it resonates so powerfully in the moment. >> van, he's talking abou optics. do you think it's optics or deeper? >> i think it's mostly it's the fact it's so easy to spot and it's such an easy line to not cross, that def plays into it, but also i think there's a large larger issue at ay here, which is the fact that there, of course, if we're talking about the possibility of making some people who disenfra throw them in prison, if it comes to the point where we can talk about them leaicving off that's a conversation we should have.e but prohibition, the taboo against certain easy to spot
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actions of bigotry, those, i think, play a function in making it so you can actually police those more subtle things. if you get rid of the prohibition on the really red line, easy bigotry, then you can almost do nothing about anything else. >> and, vann, you wrote about governor northam's policies. he campaigned on $15 minimum wage, he talked about medicare or single-pay health care for all, free community college. do you think people can o should separate his policies from his rhetoric and this photh and can other people do that? can other people say i did once appear in black face t now i have policies that are going to help black people is this. >> so i usen to live ivirginia and i talked to lots of people, black voters there, especially, and i think, number one, the sense is blaeck voters ar nothing if not pric pragmatic, ? they're strategic and they're thinking about this from the game theory scenario, and the
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fact people behind him in a lot of succession are democrats and people who will put forth the same policy is definitely the sort of ease of calling r him to be ousted. i do think especially in virginia where symbols are so much a part of conversation, where the symbols of the con fed confederacdominate the state and they were part of charlottesville and the tedly g rallieng you can take the symbolism away from the larger policy agenda. the facthey're looking for a governor, a leader who is going to stand up against people who are saying this is the cradle of confederacy and pushing a neoconfederate agenda, how do you have the moral authority now to do those things if you are revealed to be kindf the same cloth? i think that matters. >> what do you make of that, mark? >> i think that's dead on. i think we have to hold people accountable regardless of what side of the aisle they're on. i think it falso relects on the
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way, for african-american voters, and knowing the longer story of racism in the medical history, even if it wasn't the governor, right, there are also two people in medical school who are someone's doctors these days seo have held or hold the views, i think you have to make hard decisions about what kind of folks you want to represent,h and i thinfact there's a successor in line who is african-american makes it easiet to pt pressure on at this point in time. >> mark is talking about healthcare policy, you wer in healthcare policy before you got on the journalism band, what do you think about people who are see the year books and say th's this could be my doctor, and y cup that with disparity about african-american womenre three and four more times to die in childbirth, what do you make of that? >> mosof my physicians are older white men, so you are talking to pple in this age
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group, going to schools like, this who likely have year book photos like this and i imaginear ook photos, you have year book photos where people are dressing as klan, there areat tudes and behaviors that go well beyond that. so you're talking about these people going and making decisions where it's life and death sometimes, y, but where it's subtle, where you have to understand the nuances of black pain and how people express and deal with paifen difntly, where you have to be able to walk the line between telling a patient, a woman in a difficult labor what to do and listening to her. and i guarantee, you know, i've worked in cultural and health competency and litters i literae are small things lots ofeople miss and i guarantee you lots of people who have bigoted and racistbackgrounds miss that matter. these are razor thin margins when a woman is coming in and
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she's closing to having a hemohage when she's in labor, these things matter. >> mark, what do you make to have the pain people feel when they see the yearbook photo? >> it's a reminder black halks been and are still dehumanized in the american imagination. it's a reminder of america's racist past, obviously for older generations of african-americano but also youns who thought at this point in time that we would be well beyondou conversations black face. it is absurd we are talking about backface in 2019 as a governor referencing win ago moon walk contest back in 1984. >> thank you t to you both for answerinme vann newkirk of "the atlantic" and mark anthony neal of duke university. thank you.
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>> nawaz: at the end of march, the united kingdom is supposed to leave the european union, nearly three years after british ters approved brexit, but in scotland most of the electorate voted against leaving. enter scotland's first minister, nicola she'ng to chart a course for scotland in circumstances she cannot entirely control. today she brought her case to washington. with just seven wee s left until ited kingdom is due to leave the european union, scottish first minister nicola sturgeon is raising the alarm. she spoke today at georgetown university in washington. >> the u.kis not remotely prepared to leave the e.u. in 53 days time. that's been obvious for a while now. so the u.k. government should ask the e.u. to agree to put back the planned date for brexit. >> nawaz: sturgeon is one of brexit's harshest critics, and recently joined those calling for a second brexit referendum. >> i think the only credible
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option for the u.k. now is to put this back to the electorate. the governnt parliament has failed and we can't go on hoping for the unicorn to appear out of nowhere. >> nawaz: in the first referendum, over 60% of scots voted to remain in the e.u. that followed a 2014 vote in which scots voted against scottish independenc partly due to benefits from britain's membership in the e.u. but in washington, d.c. today, sturgeon said scottish voices haveince been "sidelined" an "ignored." >> order, order! >> nawaz: for now, the brexit process is in chaos. the deal british prime minister theresa may negotiated with thew e.u. rejected by parliament. may returns to brussels nextbi week in a d to re-negotiate. but time is running out. and every day the clock ticks closer to britain "crashing out," leaving the e.u. with no transition period, and no deal. that possibility has the united kingdom, including sco bracing for what comes next. i sat wn with first minister sturgeon earlier today.
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first minister, thank you so much for making the time to speak with us. >> you're welcome. >> nawaz: you've said today the u.k. is not remotelyar pr to leave the e.u. on march 29 in. the absee of a deal, what is your priority? do you want to see an extension of that deadline or would you like to see another referendum on if or how tto leae e.u.? >> what has to happen now,le rega of what else happens, in my view, is that there should be a request for ant exension and, actually, i think that should happen whether there is deal or not. probably the u.k. doesn't have time, though, to do l the legislative steps it needs to do in order to prepare for leaving the e.u. because it's taking so lo to get to aal and it hasn't even got upto that stage yet. increasingly, i think an extension is required, regardless of what then happens after that. >> do you think there's any chance that by the deadline any kind of deal is reached? >> there's a chance a deal will be reached by the deadline but it's certainly psible that
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there will be a deal that is a question of whether the u.k. can make the practical steps to put that in place to alreowt to allow on the 28th of march. but if there's notl a deand looks like the u.k. could leave without a deal, that would be catastrophic and in those circumstances certainly asking for an extension, shoulde infinitely preferable to a new deal with brexit. >> nawaz: catastrophic, what do you think e ramications would be for scotland if the u.k. were to crash out of the e.u. without a deal,hat would happen? >> much of the u.k., not jusott nd but much of how the u.k. trades is dependent on the european regulations. the ability of u.k. planes to fly across countries is dependent on rul and regulations, issues of medicines, supplies. so almost every aspect of life, it would be very difficult for us to get goods to mart, it would be difficult for us in the
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short term to import that's whe are lots of concerns in the u.k. about potential food and medicine shortages if there is no deal and lots of contingency planning has been done to mitigate against that andll of that enforces the view it would be an abdication of responsibility to allow that situation to transpire. >> nawaz: you mention contingencies. in the recent weeks, scottish parliament has been rushing through dozens of pieces to have legislation to try to protect scottish interestsn the case that there isn't a deal by the deadline. >> right. >> nawaz: tell me ae bit about what the interests are you're trying to protect and to what degrethose proct scottish interests. how far do those go? >> if there is no deal, then the day after we leave, almost the minute after we leave, almost the rules and regulation that govern how we tra and interact with the european union cease to have effect. a lot of work has been done to replaceuropean laws wit
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domestic laws, there's a lot of con things where planning underway to mitigate the worst impacts of that, but it's not going to be impossible to completely mitigate tim pacts of that which is why no deal should simply not ballowed toappen. >> nawaz: some folks say the longer the uncertainty around exit goes on, it benefits you to some degree awhs someono says you're willing to call for another inde by scotland had in 2014, the majority voted against independence. what makes you think the result would be dferent than 2014? >> the premise of your question that somehow it isn my interest to be chaos and uncertainty in the u.k's really not because if that chaos and uncertainty harms the u.k., by definition it harms people in scotland as well, and i don't see that ha but to your question as why should there be another dependent referendum in scotland, well, if you think back to 2014, when we had the
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independence referendum, the campaign argued against ardependence. the premise of thument was hat the u.k. was a partnership of equal nations, that we all had an equal say. there is alseno an argin that referendum if scotland became independent we wouldet thrown out of the european union and have to apply for new memberships. fast forward four years, scotland's voice is unheard, we voted not to leave the u.k. and we're being forced out anyway. that happened because we're not independent, we don't have the ability to take our own independence and make our voi heard. so circumstances have changed since 2014. when the time is right for scott land to look again at the we of independence, it would be the ght time to do it. >> nawaz: when would be the right time? >> we have to allow the process currently iprocess to reach conclusion. the conclusion remains cob seen.
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then take a conclusion based on what's in scotland's best interest. i'm not going to say what i think the best tiing would right now. >> nawaz: you've said before, minister, scottish erests have been ignored in the brexit process, you've saiyour parliament powers have bee. erod why not call for a referendum if you thi scoish interests are suffering? >> the scottish have a right to have as much information as possible about what if scotland chooses to be independent what our relationship will be with the rest of the u.k. and rope. some of the answers to those questions inevitably depend on the brexit outcomeome extent and, therefore, i think it's in the interest of allowing an informed decision to be taken about independence that we allow some of that clarityo emerge. brexit is a good example of what happens when people take, in some respects, an uninformed hadecision about a big cnge, and
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when people, as i believe they will in due course, opt for scotland to be an inde country, that should be on the basis of a genuinely informed decision about all theio implic and consequences. >> nawaz: while you're here in the u.s., i do want to ask you about the american president donald trump, you have been a critic of his policies before and called some of his previous comments abhorrent. i think in your remarks, you quoted former president obama, but did not reference president trump. i know you're not meeting with him on this trip. are there any plans to meet with him and what is th tmessat you would hope to deliver? >> well, first of all, i would never rule out a meeting with president trump. the fact that we disagree -- and i think we disagree on lts of things and, you know, i take a very different view on many thin to president trump -- shouldn't get in the way of the ct that i'm first minister, he's president, the interests of our countries mean that sometimes we would have to tal and meet so i certainly would not take a position of ruling that out. i think he's probablba
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preoccupied with the state of the union address tomorrow night for to meet him on this trip. he has somebody who has busins interests in scotland, his mother was scottish, so i'm sure we'll see him ina scotland agin over the next period. but my message is the tiesnd between scot and the united states are longstanding and very strong and they're very important to scotland and, you know, regardless of the personality of the president or the fit minister at any given time, it's strengthening and deeing the economic and social and cultural and fly links we should concentrate on and not allow political disagreements between two leaders to get in the way of that. >> nawaz: first minister of scotland nicola sturgeon. thank you very much for your time. us thank you. :> nawaz: stay wit, coming up on the newshour quarterback tom brady leads the new england patriots to yet
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another super bowl win. what is it that keeps them on top? a new play tells the story of vladimir pin's early rise to power. and writer dani shapiro shares her honest opinion on discovering the truth behind family secrets.a but first, lsjardins takes nicloser look at the political turmoil inside virs state capitol, and has a preview of tomorrow's state of the union. desjardins: as calls fo virginia's governor to resign grow louder, and back in washington, a second government shutdown on the horizon raisesre the stakes fordent trump's state of the union. to discuss all this, i'm joined by our politics monday. amy walter of the cook political report and tamara keith of npr. all right, let's just jump right into this difficult story. tam, let's start with the embattled democratic governor of virginia. what do these calls for resignations tell us politilly, especially about democrats? >> democrats have taken a position of they have a zero toleeynce policy. ave a zero tolerance
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policy on racism and tngs that are overtly racist. they also have zero tolerance policy in that they showed about a year ago when we were talking about all of ths #metoo stuff, including with al franken, the democratic leaders made a oice, we are going to be the party that says we wasn't tolerate this and this leads to moments we're in like now.rd >> dess: long term, short term, what's happening now?re >> democratsunified, there's no division at least within the virginiapolitical establishment of anything other than northam should go and resign, and that hapd peetty quickly. some were waiting until the press conference he held on saturday, but for the most part they have been incredibly united. the next question is sort of what the long-term implications are, and i think we are at a moment now, we're talking aboutc it slly about this sort of
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reckoning that we're no right now with issues of instructionstual racism and sexism and now we have a political reckoning going on and the thing wi reckoning is oftentimes it doesn't look very fair or equitable and itoesn't always work out in the way in which a lot of people expect it d, at many moments, there are times when, you know, there are folks who are going to say, well, wait a minute, you held one standard here for th person and held another standard there, and i think that's all going to be the case. and, so, just in the long m thinking past the northam issues, this is going to come ut time ame again. the issue of blaonckfacenues to come up. this isn't just something that happen in 1984. there was a candidate -- not a candidate -- a secretary of state in florida resigned for a blackface photo from 2005. on college campuses, you hear a story every year about a party or halloween costume that
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included blackface. sis is a time to have that discussion from cial standpoint. politically, though, it is going toe messy ad the only other way to get to the other side of this is for it to be messy. >> desjardins: governor northam reportedly said he does not want to be seen as a life-long racist and one reason he's resistant treo gning. tam, wondering, the term "racist" is a very dividing term in itself. some reporters and president trump responded angrily when he's been called a racist, even when his opponents insist that's true. can you take us through the "racist"of the term right now? i know that's a very gig big question but what does hat do? >> well, issues of race were central to the campaign for governor in 2017. virginia has been going through a wnching conversation about race, about history of racism, about what happened in charlottesville, and for this to
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happen in this state at this moment i really particularly difficult, or it really jus puts salt in what was an open wound in the state of virginia. >> d. j. could there be political blowback from those who say this m should be heard? >> anything is possible. certainly there was blowback ats reto al franken being pushed out of the senreate, kavanaugh. it's not clear whether this is in the same realm as those things, and northam, that press conference, i don't think anyone could look at that pressnf coerence and say that went the press conference northam had. what this really points tt tha amy is talking about is our bliks are not really set up for dealing with difficult things, things that -- where it's tough, where there's not a good answer. typically, when the going gets tough, people resign, and th there are never any sort of metrics that are laid out or
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rules of the road. it becomes whatever that moment is, and then the politics rt of roll over. and, so, as cory, we have not built a capacity for knowing what the right answer is. >> i want to talk about, also, wer. we have the lieutenant governor. >> desjardins: the right. we were talking long-term thinking. the immediate resignation would be for lieutenant justin fairfax to be governor, who today it came out there were allegions of sexual assault from 2004. fairfax has adadmantly den those, saying this was a consensual relationship. >> and the accusations arew anonymous . >> we don't know the woman's name. "the washington post" does. seems other news organizations does know her name. she has not responded or comear fo so that's the reality there. the other short-term politicns uence leer is if northam
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decides to stay, then he is hobbled by the fact his entire decratic establishment ha come out and said we're not behind you. there's a republican majority in the house and the senate already. it's a one-term governorship, so you're already a lame duck before, h heck, the first five minutes of your governorship, and there are legislative elections in 2019. a bunch o democrats hoping to tip what is a very close house and senate to democrac control, obviously, would not like to be running with an embattled governor on top of the ticket. >> desjardins: someone elsti who's an exe in office, president trump. big speech tomorrow, the state of the union. tam, state of the union, he's signaled and even told repte that he wants to have a unifying maybe conciliatory tone. what does that mean? does that work? briefly.
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>> the white house before his big addresses, there have been only been two other addresses to a joint session of congress in this presidency. before both of them, they previewed a con then the speech happened and the takeway was not that it was conciliatory. the takeway was typically he read from the teleprompter, he read the words in front of him, mas tone was different than at a rally but the words were not necessarily all the way thugh, let's make peace, let's work together. lots of presidents go into the stee of the union and say want to work with the other typically, it t quite work out that way, and this is a particularly precarious moment. >> with the government shutdown still. >> amid potential shutdowns, aim yrk what ds he need to tomorrow? >> it's not only democrats with which he has disagreements, it's republicans he'shalso going to to sell on his foreign policy. therhas been a tremendous
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amount of consternation among republicans in the senate about his decis withdraw from afghanistan and syrithdraw troops, so the president will have to convince democrats to go along with him on the wall, and if you watched the interview he had with margaret brennan of cbs this weekend, this does not look like a man who is interested in finding compromise with nancy pelosi, not on that topic. on syria and afghanistan, again, does not look like a person who is willing to do cpromise with his own party. >> desjardins: happy to have your wittacoverage of the of the union. can listen to you on npr, tamera keith walter, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. you're welcome, lisa. w >> nawaz: the gland patriots long dynasty kept rolling along last night. it may not have been their most elegant super bowl winve but hem or hate them, the
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patriots' combination of bill belichik and tom brady remain the dominant force of this n.f.l. era. john yang looks at the secrets of their success.t >> yang:s not one for the ages. far from the high-scoring showdown many had predicd between the dest super bowl coach-quarterback duo-- the patriots bill belichick and tom brady-- and the youngest-- the rams sean mcvay and jason goff. both offenses struggled. it was the lowest-scoring super bowl ever. >> tom brady picked of the first series. >> yang: brady's first pass of the night was intercepted. the defenses dominated most of the game. >> goff is brought to his knees. brady throws it over the middle >> yang: and neither team scored a touchdown for the firsthree quarters. it was well into the fourth quarter, with the scortied at three, before new england's offense and brady finally came
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alive, setting up the night's first and only touchdown. >> yang: putting the patriots ahead for good 10 to 3. >> yang: it was thtitle number ndx for both brady, the most for any n.f.l. playe for belichick, the most for any head coach. all of the wins were hfought battles. >> none of us felt good about where we were but we just kept grinding away and things got better. >> yang: rams coach sean mcvay acknowledged belichick's supremacy. >> they did a weat job. a great game plan and no other way to say it, but i got outcoached tonight. >> yang: for more on the paiots dominance of the n.f.l., "washington post" sports columnist sally jenkins joins us from atlanta, where she covered the game last night. sally, thanks so much for joining us. so the last 18 seasons, the patriots have appeared in the super bowl nine times, they've won six times. last week before the game, you said t patriots' franchise was
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a snarling, unclablemonster. how --nkillable monster. how do they do it? >> bill belichick has an ensee cloughpedic knledge of the history of football, formations he can pull out of his back pockets he did last night that absolutely embarrassed a young, brill quaint team. the most interesting thing that the patriots did in the post-season is they destroyed the two hottest young fensive teams in the league. >> yang: the ramlast night. the kansas city chiefs with quarterb mk patricka shown who is the 23-year-old m.v.p. of ire entleague. he made the teams look like teenagers. >> yang: bill belichick is very secretive but u gave us a glimpse of what he does in practice and you talked about his attention to detail and his
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correcting things, always getting things right. talk a little bit more about that. >> if you talk to former players, people who have actually been in that building and you have to scour witany detail about what they do, but you can tbradly sort of scrape together a little bit of a picte of what goeson inside that building and their practice field, and their attention t detail is so fine that one thing they practice is literally hownt to spack to the official and hand him the football between plays during two-minute offense at the end of the game because they don't want to waste even a half a second. so they actually drill and repeat a drill and repeat how to get the football back to the referee. so many teams you will see a player jus btoss theall casually to the official, and it might drop on the ground and sort of roll around for a half a second. the patriots don't do that. that's how extreme their attention to detail really is young ho.>> yang: how much of te paiots success is belichick,
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how much the tom brady the quarterback and how much is the combination of bill belichick and tom ady? >> well, that's a very mysterious question and it's difficult to answer. either one of them is like that game of jega where if youull out the wrong stick the entire tower collapses. it's a very intriguing question withm brady whether bill belichick would be the architect he is because brady makes thesi right de and that's hard to find among n.f.l. q.s. his supreme knowledge of the game almost matches bill checks. if you take bill check awa look how many quat great quarterback quarterbacks lik tony romo play football but never get to the super bowl. so it really is the perfect storm, the facthat tom brady wound up on that team. but it's also, i think, ultimately, a test manet to bill belichick's knowledge -- testament to bill belichick's
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knowledge of drafting good, unsung players. without that knowledge, tom brady is never on that time in the first place. sodoou might comwn on the side of belichick is the most essential personality in that franchise. >> yang: tom brady last night became the oldest quarterback to appear in much less win a sfnlt are ere any -- win a super bowl, are there signs he or the team are done yet? >> none. this is the scary thing and i've done this a long time now, a team usually suffers from exhaustion with winin. there's a heavy price to pay with winning. people don't talk about it much but it's exhausting. the demands on your time way, way up, the distractions go way, way up. success can sometimes corrupt and ruin a work ethic. gelsys take hold in the lockera room, yourry structures get
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messed up. none of that happened. the inner displine inside that organization is truly remarkable. theyev sacrifice their salary structure to hold on to a star player. they never do that. they never credit one player unduly to the point it becomes a problem in the locker room. they have been almost religious on that subject. if you ask bill belichick why he doesn't give tom brady more credit verbay, which has been an issue at times, he will tell you there arether twice on that team i value just as much.s thn interesting aspect of the organization that's seldom remarked on but i think is the nsart of the team. >> yang: sally jengiving us insight into the juggernaut thatnds the new engla k patriots. thu very much, sally. >> thank you for having me. >> nawaz: greed, manipulation, duplicity.
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the building blocks of a new play in thnation's capital. those are themes that come up a lot these days, but in this case, the setting is russia more than 20 years ago. jeffrey brown takes us there. >> brown: adimir putin: a firm grip on power in russia, his governme implicated in meddling in u.s. politics. and now appearing in fictional form at the arena stage theater in washington, dc. the powerful, the great within russia picked me, a small pablum bureaucrat of limited intellect capacity. >> brown: the play "kleptocracy," set in the 1990s and early 2000s, is based on real events: putin's surprising rise to power, from k.g.b. apparatchik to prime minister and president. >> corruption is spreading in this country.>>
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rown: and his face-off against mikhail khodorkovsky,th real-life oligarch who, as head of the enormous yukos oil company, became the richest man in russia and a politicalme s. w >> i st i thought was maybe the greatest lost m opportunity ern history. rs brown: for playwright kenneth lin, the story cenn a moment when the future of russia, and u.s./russian relations, could have gone in a very different direction. >> privatization was about to happen in russia. mikahil khodorkovsy, he really came very close to selling his russian oil company to an american oil company. he was successful in doing this, the united states, theur west andia would have been combined, would have been joining forces in an economic d diplomatic and political endeavor that really would have
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completely changed the world. >> so chevron-you'll sell yukos to chevron. fantastic. >> chevron. >> brown: it's a tale of two d flawed men. khodorkovsky attained his riches and built an empire through a rigged auction and sometimes thuggish means, before later turning to reformist politics, putin, in the play, is ruthless, and in real life many of his political enemies have ended up dead. but here, he's also a bit of a card, and at times, speaks directly to the audience. >> well, he rose to become the owner of yos oil and the richest man in the history of russia by employing more cunning, corruption and deceit. those are incontrovertible facts for those of us in the audience who like our incontrovertibl facts. >> it's gotten stranger and
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strang and he is moving closer and closer to the foreground of our politicadiscussions here. >> brown: christopher geary plays putin. >> the truth isn'tlways what is readily visible.s hesed on a very famous person but he is also a theatrical creation of ken's mind and he has colors o shakespearian kings, and petunt children and deeply wounded souls and that's just so much fun to play. >> brown: playwright lin was a writer for the over-the-top drama about american politics, "house of cards." was that good preparation for looking at russian politics? >> for every episode of house of cards, you had to ideally find
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ually powerful, equally resolute characters and they hat togainst each other to win out. and certainly what you have hern is a play whermous stakes are on the table and they need to play the game at ghest lel to come out on top. >> brown: max woertendyke plays khodorkovsky. >> if audience expects to come see the play and be able to draw very clear parallels, like this play is actually about trumpian america, i think it's less clear. but i think it's incrediblynt releecause it's about powerful men who want the things they want and sometimes they want good things and sometimes they want bad things and sometimes they're willing to be their ethics to get the regardless. >>0rown: khodorkovsky spent
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years in prison on tax evasion and other charges he and allies say were politically motivated. in 2013 he was released and agreed to leave the untry. today he lives in switzerland and promotes civil society reform against putin. as the russia investigation nttors on in washington, "kleptocracy" coinues its premiere run through february 24. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown at the arena stage theater. >> nawaz: genetic testing has become increasingly popular. for about the same cost as a dce dinner, you can now f out where your ancestors came from, or get answers to medical questions. it's easy and for many people it's done on a lark, with no
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real expectation of a surprise. dani shapiro experienced a much tonight, she shares her humble opinion on why family seets should no longer be kept. >> on a winter night three years ago, my husband told me he had decided to take a d.n.a. test. he was curious, that's all. he asked me if i wanted him to order me one too. i wasn't curious, i knew exactly where i came from, but i said: sure, why not? it seemed like no big deal. prices had come way down. families everywhere were giving ch other d.n.a. kits as holiday gifts. when my results came back, they revealed that my late beloved ther had not been my biological father. in rapid succession, using nothing more than facebook and google searches, i leahat i had been conceived in an institute in philadelphia, andat y biological father had been a sperm donor. within 36 hours of making this
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discovery, i found that sperm donor, who had been a young medical student at the time. he was now a retired 78-year-old doctor, a medical ethicist. a he was more thittle bit surprised to hear from me. a secret was scrupulously kept fr me for 54 years. secrets defined the world of infertily and reproductive medicine at the time, something toat persists to this day. couples were tolave sex before and after the procedure so that they'd nevereally be sure who the father was. and to then to go home and forget it ever happened. to never breathe a word, not to faly, not to friends. the child would never know. and what we don't know, doesn't hurt us. except that i believe that what we don't know absolutely does hurt us. i grew up with a powerful sense that something wasn't quite right. things didn't add up. i didn't a up. i looked very different from my family, but that was only a small part of it. there were ways which i
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simply was different. but i didn't know why, so i did what children do. i felt there must be something wrong with me. that feeling of wrongness permeated my life, even as i was able to thrive as a writer, marry, and have a child of my own. there was always a subtle disconnect, as if the wires were crossed.ot i book after book, trying to understand why this was. we're living in a time when family secrets are tumbling oute at a stunning easy, popular d.n.a. testingnt along with thenet makes it nearly inevitable that secrets involving family and iy won't make it to the grave. and th's a good thing. because no matter how high up on a shelf a secret is kept, it's still there. just because it isn't spoken doesn't mean it doesn't exist. ite the opposite. it's all the more powerful and dangerous for havi been hidden.
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