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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, on the brink of a deal-- congress and the white house inch closer to an agreement on border security to avoid another government shutdown. then, one-on-one w of state mike pompeo as he pushes european allies to take a harder line with iran. plus, when clothes are the canvas. we catch up with ruth carter, the costume designer behind "black panther," now up for an oscar. >> the process of creating superhero costumes is very different than tailoring a suit. and so that process was new to me but as i got into it i could see that there w e lots of things where i could implement my ideas and my art. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> we're going to look at the legislation when it comes d i'll make a determination then. >> desjardins: f a second day, president trump would not say yes or no on the border deal negotiated in congress. as he met with the president of colombia, mister trump was cautious and complimentary both' >> be looking for landmines because you could have that. it's been known to happen before a people. i apprecia the work the republicans have done becauseoi they're really against a radical left. it's a radical left and they're >> desjardins: negotiators rtrked on final issues and tweaks to the bipaan deal. house speaker nancy pelosi acknowledged criticism of the bill, from the right and the left. >> as with all compromises, i say to people, i support the bill for what is it it. don'judge it for what is not in it. we can't pass it until it's ready and when it's ready we'll be ready to pass it. f >> desjardins: the chaire house democratic caucus, new york congressman hakeem
jeffries, was equally optimiic. >> the overwhelming majority of the house democratic cwill support this legislation that will bpresented on the house floor tomorrow. beyond that, we'll see what the president does but i'm hopeful that he will sign this into law. >> desjardins: house minority leader kevin mccthy was also hopeful. >> if the language comes out thu way the ure is told to me i would support this. >> desjardins: on the senate side, majority leader mitch mcconnell acowledged both parties had to give and take to get to this point. >> neither side is getting everything it wants. that's the way it goes in divided government. if the text of the bill reflects the principles agreed to on monday, it won't be a perfect deal but it will be a goodeal. >> desjardins: meanwhile, the top democrat in the senate, chuck schumer, appealed directly to the president. >> in politics, to rolling stones, "you can't always get what you want."
it's time to put the months ofs shutdown polithind us. wo>> desjardins: with just days to go before friday's midnight deadline. presiden he doesn't want to see a second government shutdown. >> woodruff: a lisa is here with me along with our white house correspondent yamiche alcindor. so, lisa, what is the best you know, you can tell us about when we'r agoing to see this bi what's in it and what's being negotiatede till? >> i hen just checking with sources, hearing back from them. it looks like they do expect ust to see text tonight. that time keeps slipping back.w i'm old hopefully by midnight, south going to be a very late nig. if we see the text tonight, we also expect votes tomorrow at weast in the house and possibly in the senate asl. cky, judy, tomorrow is tri because there are two funerals for departed members of congress, oneoh fordingell, another for walter jones in north carolina. many members are flying to that
funeral. they will go to that funeral and return to washington ay then can the votes begin ton this package. now, as to what's in the package, what have we learned today? a couple of new things. we know this deal cludes a 1.9 pay increase for federal workers, also $1 billion for the census. that's something they have been asking for and even more. judy, very specific about the border barrier money we have been talking about, it says 55 miles, 45 miles for land fencing and 10 miles for levies. one other thing, there are still negotiations going on tonightrs between leap sources over two things, one, whether contractors should get back y part of this deal. the other thing, should the violence against women ae extended as it is, which republicans want, or should there bmore restrictions on, sarks weapon ownership by potential abusers, that's what democrats want.as >> woodruff:nating how the other issues arise in aio situlike. this yamiche, the big question on everybody's mind is what is
the president going to do? what have you learned about whether he is inclined to sign it or not? >> the president has not decided whether or not he will sign this bill and, ultimately, it doesn't look likely there will be a shutdown, but the government is not the woods yet. i have been talking to conservatives all day and they say the president lacks a little bit of political theater. they think the president likes the drama and his opponentsit g until the last minute to know what he's going to. do they think of this as the president really looking as he wants to be a negotiate who's unpredictable, but the white house pushes back on that image. when i talk to aids, th say the president has made up his mind because the text to halle hasn't been received by the white house. they say once that text is received, white house aides will comb through it, make a esentation to the president, and the then's then going to look for sweeteners. specific things he's looking for, the number of immigration dges included in the bil. he also wants to know exactly what the wall money can be use for. they want to know where can we put the wall, exactly where can
.the materials come fr it's interesting the president is weighing those options. the bottom line is the president doesn't know what he's going to do. there's been back and forth on whether or not the prede intends to stein this but the president has not made up his mind as of this hour.dr >> wf: you mention the wall. we know the president did not get all the mo money he wanted r the wall and, yet, the white house is saying lley're sti going to build a barrier. how co'do they plan do that? >> the white house is unhappy with the numr they're getting for the wall funding. the president wanted $5.7 billion, instead he got $1.37 billion. the white housis looking at this idea of whether or not he can pull from different funds. the president hasn't decidwh h pot he's going to pull from, but the key question is who does he want to make mad? on the one hand, conservatives tell me the president would loo very happy to his base and it would be very good for his base if he pulled money from the
d or the army corps of engineers or possibly even disaster funding just to say i signed this bill, made the deal, avoided the shutdown and also got my money for wathe l. however, republicans on capitol hill might be very angry at that. i'm thinking of senators from states like texas. the president takes mon where that was supposed to be used for hurricane fund org flooding and says, you know what, i'm goi to build my wall, that could be a political land minefo essentiallpeople on the hill. so the president's going to have to decide who he wan to make mad and whether or not he thinks he can be a winner from wherever he pulse the monm. >> woodruff: lisa, that brings me to you, what is congress' role as looks for t money? >> it depend on the source of money. there is monuey from drg seizures and powers they have in thwar on drugs they may be able to take without approval. but all the other funds are called transfers, reprogramming and, traditionally, each appropriations commit yp in congress must approve that. one of those appropriations
committees is run byoc demts, the house appropriations committee. democrats say they will object. where does that go? probably to court. w >> woodruff:ell, we'll watch this for sure. we will be watching. lisa desjardins, yamiche alcindor, thank you, and we will talk to the senate's number two republican john thune a little later in the program. in the days other news, in a strong rebuke of president representatives has approved a measure to limit u.s. yeinvolvement in the war in. mr. trump has stepped up u.s. g litary assistance to a saudi- led bombmpaign against iranian-backed houthi rebels in yemen. the legislation now heads to the senate, where lawmakers still lack the votes to pass it. the white house has promised to veto the measure. president trump sought today to step up the pressure on venezuela's president nicolas maduro. he said again is looking at "all options" if maduro refuses
to surrender power. but at a u.s. house hearing, the chair of the foreign affairs committee warnth against using military in venezuela, unless congress approves. >> i want to make clear to our witnesses and everyone else watching, u.s. military inteention is not an option. congress decides when where and how the us military is used around theorld, and congress would not support military intervention in venezuela.f: >> woodrhe u.s. has recognized opposition leader juan guaido as venezuela's rightful leader.rm a u.s. air force intelligence officer has been charged with revealing u.s. national defense secre to iran. monica witt defected to iran in 2013. the justice department announced the indictment today.it aid she also helped hackers target her former colleagues.t witt remainsrge. the socialist government of spain may have to call early elections after it lost a crucial budget vote today.
catalan separatists joined conservatives in opposition. the catalan deputies are unhappy with the government'sal to consider an independence referendum for their region. back in this country, new jersey's roman catholic dioceses named more than 180 priests who have been credibly accused of sexual molesting minors. the allegations span several decades. many of those listededre now dece others have been removed from the ministry, d some have been arged with crimes. nparately, the diocese of richmond, virgined 42 accused priests. the superintendents the three u.s. service academies faced birtisan criticism from lawmakers today over concerns about sexual assault and harassment in their schools. a defense departme study last month found an increase in sexual misconduct at the schools in the last two years. congresswoman jackie speier, who heads the subcommittee, said she was putting the service academies "on notice."
>> this isn't a blip, a #metoo bump or some accident, it is a clear illustration of a destructive trend and a systemic problem. it's time for us to recognize that this is a crisis and i intend to watch it like a hawk. tivment ranking repusaican joined ing the problem needs immediate attention. an investigation has found no evidence that catholic school n udents used racist or offensive language incident at the lincoln memorial. the encounter last month involved teenagers from a school in covington, tintucky, and american activists. videos of it quickly went viraln thstigation was done for the catholic diocese of covington. ock long is resigning as head of fema, the federal emergency management agency. he notified his staff in a letter today.tu long's dep comes several months after an investigation found he misused government vehicles. he agreed to reimburse the
government. nasa said goodbye today to its "opportunity" rover, after nearly 15 years of exploring the surface of mars. the lf cart-sized vehicle wa launched in 2003 alongside its twin, "spit," for a mission of just over 90 days. instead, "spirit" lasted until several years ago, and "opportunity" carried on until a ferocious dust storm last june. >> we tried valiantly over these last eight months to try to recover the rover, to get some signal from it. we listened every single day and we heard nothing. and so it comes time to say goodbye. but we want to remember the 14 and a half years of phenomenal exploration. >> woodruff: "opportunity" set endurance and distance records, and, along with "spirit," it found evidence that water once flowed on e surface of mars. longtime conspiracy theorist and eight-time presidential ndidate lyndon larouche has died.
vhe was known for extremiws and outrageous claims, including one that britain's queen elizabeth was a drug trafficker. lyndon larouche was 96 years d. t-mobile and sprint pledged again today not raise prices for three years, if their merger wins federal approval. but democrats at a house hearing questioned whether the trump administration would hold theto companiehat pledge. the merger is worth $26.5 billion.ld it wnite the nation's third and fourth largest wireless carriers. on wall street, stocks made modest gains, over optimm about u.s./china trade talks. the dow nes industrial average was up 117 points to close at 25,543. the nasdaq rose five points, and the s&p 500 added eigh and, a wire fox terrier named "king" is this year'dog, at the westminster kennel club dog show in new york. the seven-year-old won "best in anow" last night in the nation's
most prestigiouse competition. overall, more than 2,800 dogs took part. wired fox terriers have won westminster 13 times, far more a than other breed. still to come on the newshour: a wide-ranging conversation wite secretary of sike pompeo. republican senator john thune on the effort to avert r government shutdown. forms of universal health care pick up steam among democrats, and much more. >> woodruff: we return now to the negotiations over border n.ending and a looming government shutd for that i spoke a short time ago to republican senator john thune of south dakota. he is the senate majority whip.n
senator thank you very much for joining us. first of all, how confident are you that president trump is going to seen on to thi agreement? >> well, good evening, judy. u know,confident, but, of course, until we actually have the final text and theen prescomes out and says something definitively, i think 're just going to wait and let him make that announcement himselat but the indns are positive. i think that he probably realizes this is the best deal he could get under the circumstances, and the negotiations have concluded. we'vgot to avoid another government shutdown which would happen midnight friday if thi deal isn't agreed to. so i'm hopeful that the president will come arounand at some point announce his intention to get behind this, but, like everybody else, he wants to see the details. >> woodruff: well, as we all know, e president not get as much money as he wanted for a physical barrier, wall, and he's saying he's going to find that money elsewhere. how much other money isim
available tond from where? >> i think that what they'rein taabout doing -- and, of course, this would be -- i'm not in the context of anemergency declaration, which would be an intrt, entirely, conversation, but i think in terms of unobligated balances, reprogramming that could occur, that the administration could find, the dollars they could move around a little bit, i'm not sure exactly what that number is. we've heard estimates, but i ink it would significantly increase the amount he could put toward border security. d how much would go towa wall, i don't know, but i think the hard number we know about is 21 that's in there and that's the lionor thereabout bil dollars he can use for the physical structure that would be along the border, bu there's more to it, obviously, than that, and i know he's interested in getting as much funding as he can to build as much of tt structure as possible. >> wdruff: well, we have been hearing perhaps as much as a couple of billion dollars the president would be trying to find elsewhere. do you have any idea where the
money could come from? >> well, there are several accounts that have been mentioned, and, but, you know, i don't know exactly where they're talking about going to get it. there, of course, has been some talk ability defense department dollars and perhaps being able to reprogram some of those. i think, in the end, to get tgnificant amounts of money, he would probably us emergency declaration. i don't know exactin what he's to do at this point and i think it's probably anybody's guess, but i know his administration is looking carefully at these various accounts to y to determine if there are additional dollars that could be added to the amount that's going to be appropriated by congress. how much that is and where exactly it ces from, i hate to at this point speculate about that. >> woodruff: is that something congressional republicans would support? >> it depds a lot on where it comes from, and, again, and which authority would use. a lot of our colleagues are very sympathetic to what the president's trying to accomplish. they want to ensure that he has
dollars tol ocate to border security and to deal with the crisis there, but, at the same time, you know, what authority gets used, where the dollars miot be moved arund from will have a lot to do with, i think, the kind of support that he might enjoy among republicans in the senate. >> woodruff: separate question, senator. eexpanding i.c.e. detention, immigration and customs enforcement, and if, so by how much? >> there have been a lot of discussion about the numbers and both sides have talked about a slightlyifferent number, but i think it's all in the ballpark of $40,000 to 50,000 bad range which would be comparable to what we have today th some flexibility to go beyond that. i've seen some numbers in the range o so i think the flexibility is important, but i think in terms of the overall amount that would allocated toward detentionof
illegals who are here and criminal alien in some cases, it is comparable to what we're looking at today. >> woodrf: how much of a priority is that for you, senator? >> well, i think it's important that we not cap it. i nes very concabout the proposal the democrats put forward that would have, in law, capped that amount. i think previous administrations have had the flexibility, based upon what the need is, to be able to move some ney around and make sure that there's enough, you know, detention beds ink that population, and i it's an issue that's a part of this discussion.fo i think a lot of our members, the fiscal structure, the barrier is robably the number one priority, but this obviously is a close second in the minds of a lot of people. >> woodruff: atindll another subject, and that is democrats are saying they would like to find money to give back pay t federal contract employees who were affected by the government shutdown. are pushing for this.
where do republicans -- where do you stand on that? >>ell, i -- what i've maintained throughout this entire process is when you have a government stdown, nobody wins, and there are a lot of people that are harmed by that and you want to make e you do everything you can to make them whole, and i guess i would include contractors in that group. the question, i guess, is how tost to do that. people who enter ontracts with the government aren't ld theyworking, and wou have been working -- what's the duration of some of those contract there are a lot of questions that i think have to be answered to figure out how you woulde reimbuor make whole government contractors. there is a reason they're contractors. they're not as federal employees. they're not full-time feral workers. they are working on contract, and sometimes those contracts go in spurts. there may be times when they're heavily engaged in some activity on behalf of the federal government, but at other tims ey're not. so i think making those determinations makes us a littl ore -- this a lilt bit more complicated, but i think there
is an interest, certainly among a lot of members on both sides of the aisle, seeing tht pple who depend upon the federal government and were harmed by the shutdown, that they be taken care of. >> woodruff: so republicans would be open to the idea,ou think? >> well, i think there are republicans open to that idea, yeah. >> woodruff: and finally, when do you think this could pass the congress, assuming t kee moving as it is? >> if we get eaperwork filed by late this afternoon or early evening, it would set up, i think, potentially votes tomorrow in the senate. we could move first, thhou could move first, i don't think that's been determined yet, but, the senate did move first, you know, we have to have consent to do that, and if we have consent, we could move fairly quickly and send it to the house and they could process it sometime tomorrow. but that assumes again that the paperwork gets wrapped up and that they get the details, e actual legislative text made available to members for them to have an opportunity to revaniew hopefully that will happen soon. >> woodruff: then we wait to see what the ps.sident doe
>> then we wait to see. >> woodruff: senator john thune, thank you very much. >> thanks, judy. >> woodruff: democrats in washington are making health care a top pority and calls for medicare for all or some form of universal health coverage are growing louder. but as special correspondent sarah varney reports, democratic governors and mayors aren't waiting; they are pushing ahead with urgency, signing executive orders and unveiling proposals to corral costs and bring health care to those who remain uninsured. california governor gavin newsom laid out some of his ideas in his state of the state speech last night. our story begins in california and was produced in collaboration with our partner, kaiser health news. for our weekly series on the leading edge of scd nce, health technology. >> reporter: sandra yamileth
lopez works at one o francisco's most celebrated bakeries, tartine. she fled horrific violence in honduras and applied for asylumc ifornia. she can work legally, but like many new immigrants, it will be years before she's eligible for medicaid or federal health insurance subsidies. so, she enroed in healthy san francisco, a pioneering program that guarantees health care to any uninsured city rident. lopez says she can live her life agn. >> ( anslated ): i had a l of recurring dreams about what had been happening. so doctors gave me mication to help me sleep and to help relax with my anxiety. >> reporte healthy san francisco started in 2007, under then mayor gin newsom, years before the affordable re act when universal coverage was an audacious, and radically liberal, goal. partially funded through
employer fees, the city reorganized its public health system. patients like mario goes were moved away from expensive and overburdened emergency rooms, ped into primary care clinics. they get visits toalists, prescription drugs, and perhaps most importantly, protection from massive bills should they need emergency care. after most of obamacare went into effect in 2014, most healthy san francisco patientsme enrolled iicaid or bought subsidized private plans. by abo tut 13,000 remain,se who earn too much for medicaid but still can't afford privatera insunce, and people like juan who are undocumented and barreed from fal public assisnce. he's been recovering from a heart attack under the watchful eye of a cardiologist and back at work in a local warehouse. he takes a number of prescription drugs that he coul't otherwise afford.
but here's the dilemma: he's only covered inside the city limits of san francisco. it's not portablhealth insurance. juan wants to move to san diego to care for his aging mother, but then he'll be out of t program and unable to afford his medications. >> some of them are over thousands of dollars a month. and if i don't have that coverage in san diego, i would have to pay for it. and if ion't take that medication, it could be life threatening.e >> reporter: sree million californians remain uninsured, about half don't have legal status like juan, and the rest can't afford the sky high cost of american healthcare. fury over those costs, even for those with insurance, has energized democrats who want the u.s. to have universal health coverage, like all other industrialized nations. but there are many variations: single payer; medicare-for-all; plans that would largely do away with insurance companies or employer-based coverage, others that would simply regulate them
more closely. now that the former mayor of san francisco has become governor,ay newsomhe wants to make california a testing ground for universal coverage.e >> premiums ing up, deductibles are getting higher, people are feeling stress and ngxiety about what's happe or not happening, federally. and they're concerned that things will get worse, not nessarily better, in the medium term, and a lot worse in the long term. >> reporter: newsom has asked the trump administration torn allow cali to pursue a single payer system. since that's unlikely to happen, he's pursuing other options. by creating what he says is the nation's largest prescription drug purchasing pool to negotiate dr prices, restoring the individual health insurance mandate, letting undocumented young adults up to age 26 into medicaid, and giving state subsidies to 250,000 more middle-income californians. >> you look around the rest of the world, they're just rolling their eyes. higher life expectancy, they do chronic disease management
better tn the united states, for roughly half the price. you look at quality indexes, we drop to 37th in the world in our quality index last year, below cuba, and costa rica. this is ludicrous, and it's incumbent upon governors, mayors, to take the lead in thef absence of teral government doing its job. >> reporter: and that's happening across the nation. in washington state, new mexico, colorado and elsewhere, democrats have put forward a o flurproposals to expand access and restrain health care cists. and in new york , mayor bill de blasio is promising health racare to undocumented imms and those who can't afford insurance. n >> there's enough peoplethis city who don't have any health care coverage to fill the entire city of milwaukee, or the enre city of baltimore. that's just a vast number of people. of reporter: it's a total some 600,000 new yorkers. de blasio recruited dr. mitch katz, the public health mastermind behind healthy san
francisco, to build a similar program in the city's five boroughs. they plan to pump more than $100 million a year into the city's financially-strained public hospitals and clinics and actively enroll the uninsured into a program called n.y.c. care. at includes struggling young people, like freelance musician and composer andrew sharkey, who has crohn's, a serious bowel disease that has gone untreated. he dropped hisoverage in 2015. >> i just didn't know where the money was going to come from. i was working two jobs, they were both pa time so that they didn't have to pay into my insurance. >> reporter: under de blasio's plan, sharkey would have a regular primary care doctor ande treatment fromalists and access to prescription drugs. word about n.y.c. care is already spreading among the more than 300,000 undocumented immigrants in the city, like antonio, who asked us to use only his first name. he thinks de blasio's plan would
simplify his life. he could focus more on his health and work, and less on the endless paperwork that comes with being uninsured. >> ( translated ): oh my god, that is going to be a great change for everyone. now when i go to an appointment, i need to run around from social workers, to organizations, to find ways to rede those bills. >> reporter: americans already pay for undocumented immigrants when they come to e emergency room, says mayor de blasio. >> let's face it, we kind of kid oursves in this country abou the reality of health care. so right away we've got 12 million, maybe even more, undocumented folks who are part of the fab the united states of america, and who need health care because they are human beings. but in all of our poliing we deny their existence. this is the greatest don't ask don't tell you've ever seen. we should have universal health care nationally, we should have single payer, we should have medicare for all, but in the absence of that, health care has become this luxurytem for so many people. r
orter: universal health care polls well with american voters. but the trump administration says if itecame a national policy, it would consume the federal budget. seema verma runs the federal centers for medicare and medicaid services for the trump administration. >> it's fiscally unsustainable. but to make matters worse it would destroy medicare for t seniors who spent their wholeto life paying t. peter sh umlin was forced hissa ternts to bring single payer to his state. >> what i realized and a lot of legislators did is, hey, if we don't get costs under control thrst, instead of getting the premium increase imail, you will get a tax increase passed to your legislature on an annual basis and there isn't any party that want to be raising taxes at the current healt >> 15% every year, 18%. >> you imagine the politicians
going hey, this is fun! >> reporter: as democrats across the country and in washington push ahead with their health care agenda, patients like andy sharky are listening carefully. for the pbs newshour and kaiser health news, i'm sarah varney in new york. >> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour: students around the country respond to gun violence one year after the tragedy in parkland, flida. and the oscar nominee behind "black panther's" costumes. >> woodruff: this week marks a ouar since the shooting at marjory stonemanas high school in parkland florida that took the lives of 17 students and educators. tomorrow will be a daymany survivors take time again to
rember, reflect and grieve we wanted to take some time tonight to hear from students around t country. our student reporting labs spoke to high schoolers from a number of states including california, michigan, wisconsin, and south carolina. we asked students to talk about whether they felt safer or not, what had changed at their schools and some of the larger concerns on their mind. here's a sampling of what they had to say >> the students of parkland and the parkland movement helped me ange because they really let me notice that my voice matters, that the youth voice matters and that, although we are not legislators and political officials, we still can have our opinion and voice heard and can make a difference in regards to changes in our political platform. >> obviously, parkland was a really big turning point in this, but it has happened in a lot of different places that, you know, maybe we don't hear
about every day, but because of rkland, so many thine changed, even in my smaller school. >> i've definitely become more paranoid in school a little bit. after it hap'vpened, ie run was a lot more paranoid than they are now. definitely a little more paranoid about going to school. >> since the mass shooting in parkland, i have definitely been aware of my surroundings and changed my mental state to, whenever i go in a room, think of where the exits are ifid anythingappen. >> my school upped the security, and i see more security guards and personnel around, and, while it doesn't make me feel safe, it's nicknowing they're there. >> they have installed locks on the doors where someone has to buzz you in to get in to the school on every door. the doors are locked all the time. i know in our class, there is a te that is down all the time now.
>> they have been a lot stricter h, like, hats andoodies and not having them on in school or big jackets, just in se someone could be holding, you know, a weapon or anything in th >> i think the most depressing thing about the parkland incident is that i don't feel -- in general, schools don't feel incredibly different and it's almost as if it's just another shooting. >> i actually feel a lot more unsafe after parkland ju because a lot more kids realize they have an opportunity oot school. they all have an opportunity. it's not that hard to get a gun, and a lot of kids know that and they just -- it'scary to think there are kids out there that know that that's a choice. >> a major change that i hope to see is a universal background check. to my knowledge, i know that in some states, you're able to go to a gun show and just purchase a weapon with no background check. i think that's very difference things to think about. >> people are saying the people who are makin athe lawsnd thing chianging the way we see
these things, they're ac taking a step forward and doing something about it. even though it's just a seed, we'rstill going to be acting upon it and it really has done a lot in the face of lawmars and people who can make change.'m >>opeful that in the future the conversation is there willnd the idea be gun restrictions and a safer future in our country is there and it's possible, but i don't think we're there yet. >> woodruff: today in warsaw, poland, the united states is leading a middle east security conference with about 70tr cos. secretary of state mike pompeo is leading the u.s. delegation. earlier today he visited u.s. s trootioned in northeast poland, near the russian border. he then attended a meebout the war in yemen that included
officials from saudi aa and the united arab emirates, who are leadg the coalition fighting in that country. u.s. officials are discussing multiple topics, but the focus has overwhelmingly been iran. i spoke to the secrery of state a short time ago, from warsaw. secretary mike pompeo, thank you very much for joining us. you are in poland for a meeting to discuss the future of the middle east. what do you want to come out of this meeting?el >> judy, thanks for having me on this show. i appreciate the opportunity to speak with your audience. we've gathered 70 nations to talk about how we achieve middle east stability and prosperity and peace. as you know, this region isi fraught withsk, and we will spend tomorrow, we spent aood part of tonight talking about the various risks and how different countries from every continent, save for antarctica, can come and deliver on middle east peace. we hope to walk away from here with a number of ideas and plans.
we hope to have follow-up meetings where we can truly begin to deliver on something ceat the middle east rtainly needs, and the world will benefit from as well. >> woodruff: so we are told n thatber of key middle eastopn and eurn officials decided not to attend. there are some countries represented at a lower level. how does that affect your ability to move this forward? t >> juds event's been absolutely historic. it's the first time we've put it together, and even tonight, it's the first time in a quarter oa century that you had the pri minister of israel in the same room talking about threats in the middle east with senior arab leaders from all across the middle east. it was truly remarkable. it was historic. 70-plus countries gathed together, all sharing ideas. we come from different backgrounds, we co from different places, we see these risks differently, but tonight i think we began a conversation which will lead to really good outcomes all across the middle east. >> woodruff: you mentioned the
prime minister of israel, mr. netanyahu, who a short time ago was quoted aeeting that the countries were there to discuss their common interests of war with iran. now, they later changed the wording to say common interests of combating ira but is that the focus? >> well, it may notprise you, judy, i was out with american soldieron freedom's frontier today, i didn't have a lot of time to spend on twitter, so i haven't seen those remarks. no, this gathering is certainly about middle east peace and stability. you can't talk about that without talking about the threat from islamic republic of iran, whether hezbollah, hamas, the houthis, whether it's the iraqi government trying to harm thece independnd sovereignty of iraq, what they're doing in syria today, there arshared tribetween the sawed ytion, the emiratis, the bahrainis, the
jordanians, the israelis all understand their nation is at risk from iran and the a europeane at risk. iran is conducting an assassination campaign throughout europe. this is a global phenomenon. the threat of middle east instability is real and you can't possibly talk about it without talking about theen enormous inf iran has been in the middle east none of which has been good. >> woodruff: we know you appealed directly to the people of iran, but the question has been raised is how can you expect them to support this when lear of them wanted that n agreement to go forward. many of them just don't want to be seen as supporting the u.s. right now. is that a tack you think you can counon? >> woodruff: judy, we don't expect the iranian people to support the u.s.e we expect to take care of their own country. we hear from iranianall the time at the united states state
departme, they're wholly dissatisfied with the conditionn de their country. they watch the clerical regime there squander money around the world, they watch it get their a brothe sisters killed in wars all across the region, and for what? for the i.r.g.c., for sull t manny, not forhe benefit of the iranian people. so what weant the iranian people to do is not support europe or the united states or anyone else, we want the iranian people to live in arosperous, peaceful society and one controlled by their desires and wishes. if we can get that, i'm very confident that these behweiors ee in iran will change dramatically. >> woodruff: one other questionbout iran, that is it's been pointed out that the u.s. singles out human rights abuses in iran but does not do so with regard to countries like egypt, like syria, like saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. how do you reconcile that? >> i mean, judy, your statement isjust false.
you reconcile bit looking at our record. we've made very clear that the failure to observe the most basic fundamental human rights, treating humans with dignity and respect which they're entitledth by nature or humanity, the united states calls that out wherever we find shortcomings, whether the muslim leaders held in detention camps in chi, or what's happening in iran or any other country where we find it, north korea, the list goes on. the united states is very consistent, and we ask every nation to treat their people with t basic human rights which each of us is entitled. >> woodruff: well, one of theco tries that conversation has led to has to do with the war in yemen, and you may kthat just a short time ago, the u.s. house of repsentatives, where you previously served, pasd a bill basically saying that the u.s. can no longer put money iward the military effort, the saudi-led coalitin yemen.
is this -- is this -- how much of a ruke ofa setback is this to the president? >> look, members of congress, i was one, they e get to vothe way they want to goat and pass thsolutions that they want to pass. 's certainly their right. you should know that we listen to them.se tors and members of the house of representatives all the time, we talk to them about a range of issues, and we certainly hear their voice with respect to yemen. just tonight, judy, i was with foreign ministers from the emirates, saudis and britain, thu.k., we met with martin griffith from the u.n. who's norking to solve this problem i yemen. we have two problems -- three problems, really. the first problem is al quaida, still there. the united states is doing its best to take down that terror threat. thnd problem is iran, continuing to fund the houthis. if you want to know wd's cau the humanitarian crisis in yemen, you need look no further than the islamic republic of iran.
judy, for example, how many dollars has iran provided for manitarian assistance in yemen. i can tell you. do you know? >> woodruff: i don't know. it's zero. how much money have theiratis and saudis provided? the americans, the brts, the saudis and emiratis are doing everything we can to take down the threat fr h theanitarian crisis in yemen while iran fuels le. it provides misto the houthis that they launch into airports i saudi arabia, in the emirates. these are the challenges in yemen, these are the challengesn that this adtration is determined to push back against and we're going to keep at it. >>oodruff: and we assume this legislation will go on to the senate, which passed simar language not very long ago. so we'll watch to see what happens. finally, mr. secretary, i want to take you to north korea, erich, of course, is ano major focus of yours with this upcoming meeting between presidt trump and the north korean leader kim jong un. there are reports now that the ternational atomic energ agency may be allowed back into
yorth korea. ca confirm that? >> no, ma'am, i canonfirm that for you this evening. i whan tell your viewers is that president trump is headeder on the 27th and 28t 28th to hanoi to have a secd conversation with chairman kim jong un, and we really hope we can make progress, a significanw stepd denuclearizing the korean peninsula. it will reduce risk, it will reduce all the tension that's been along the border for far too long, and then we hope we can create a much brighter future for the north korean tople as well. that's the missit the president's given me and it's one that we hope we ma significant advance on at the end of this month. >> woodruff: we will certainly be following that story and we will be following your tr in europe today. we wish you -- we wish you safe travels, secretary mike pompeo. thank you very much.m >> thank you, a'am. have a good evening, judy. so long.
>> woodruff: finally, we continue our look at some of this year's academy awards nominees. when it comes to film, we often spend much of our time talkingct tos, writers and directors. but there are so many elements that go into the making of a movie. "black panther," which was widely praised for its messages, vision and style, certainlydr es that point home. a key part of its look comes from ruth carter, who's nominated for best costume design. jeffrey brown traveled to losan les to talk with her about her craft for our new regular series on arts and culture, "canvas." "> brown: by now it's well established: "ack panther" has b beh a box office blockbuster and historically oundbreaking.
>> ooo the entire suit sits within the teeth of the necklace. brown: and, more than half a century since marvel comics first introduced thetional african nation of wakanda, the film featured a new look that has itself become a cultural phenomenon. ruth e. carter not only helped bring to life the latest iteration of the black panther suit, she also designed some 1500 costumes for the lm, and the goal, she says, was to make fantasy somehow familiar. >> we have to really base it on real life in order for people to believe it. you know it's not a place that we can make so completely a fantasy that it feels like it's a sci fi or it's a fantastical place that no one could go to. we base it on so many rooted ideas and cultural things that people feel like they can actoally buy a ticket and fl wakanda.
>> brown: to that end, carter researched and found inspiration in the real africa and its people: such as the dogon of mali, the tuareg in noh africa, the himba of namibia the lee costumes, and the film in general, also cebrate the concept of afrofuturism, a blending of technology and futuristic themes with black history and culture. carter points to the costume of ramonda, king t'challa's mother, as o of her favorites.ri both her ite crown and shoulder mantle were 3-d printed.st >> wl really want to honor what the fans believe that wakanda is and in that w it stays really rooted in the superhero realm in the comic realm and in t fantasy realm. but you know this was an oppounity to take you know t afro future or the aesthetics of african diaspora and infe it into this culture and bring itt
to life in ty. the process of creating superhero costumes is very different than, than tailoring the suit. and so that process was new to me. but as i got into it i could see that there were lots of things where i could implement my ideas and my art. but it's very intimidating at first. >> brown: intimidating until you get over it. >> until you get over it. >> brown: ruth carter grew up is springfield,chusetts, in an artistic household. she was introduced to drama through after-school programs, and studied theater arts and design in college. now 58, her big break into t hollywood caough spike lee, with whom she's worked on many films, including "malcolm x," which brought the first of her now-three oscar nominations at the te was first african-am ican to receive a nomination for costume design. among her many other films: steven spielberg's "amistad," ava duvernay's "selma," and lee
."daniels' "the butle" >> this was oprah's and is was cecil gaines, who was played by forest whitaker, who was the butler >> brown: some of her creations are still housed at the western costume compan a massive shop and warehouse in north hollywood where we met and tald. i'm not sure that many people, myself included, understand your job. costume designer. >> yeah. >> brown: how do you define it? >> a costume designer is a storyteller; she tells or he tells stories through wearable art. it's not only just like buying a shirt and a jacket or creating something original it's also giving you a little bit more of a story. it's just not 2-d, it doesn't in a costume designers job does not end with a photograph or a etch. there is that part that makes it come alive. and that's molding and shaping and creating a character
composition color palette. all those things come into play> rown: this is not a field, this is not an industry, that's been very inclusive historically. >> yeah.wh >> brownis that? what did that mean for you u comiand finding your way? >> i guess as i entered i didn't see very maple like me even though i looked and researched if there were and there s maybe one doing television and there was another person who was supervising but not really in a design capacity. and i was really firm that i wanted to be a costume designer once i landed in hollywood. >> brown: beyond the individual films, carter said s's felt a larger mission: to help create an authentic portrait of african americans. >> people think i got into this industry because i like you know fashion and dior but it was really like you know james baldwin and nikki giovanni and
sonia sanchez that told these rich stories that really made me want to get into theater and what made me want to be a part of this, and i found that costume design was a way where i could be an artist and a storyteller you know and contribute to a medium that i felt had had a great voice. >> brown: what does the oscar nomination mean for you?e >> ien reflecting on that quite a bit. it means that i'm an example to a lot of young girls whoin wow i'm gechoked up. wow.kn yo a lot of young girls who, like me, want this for themselves, this profession, want to get into it and really kind of don't know how but maybe forging their own way. i feel like i represent like thatope that they can go to the highest level. >> brown: ruth carter, congratulations to you again.
thanks for talking to us. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> woodruff: we will continue our coverage of thisoscars later eek, hearing from regina king, star of "if beale street could talk." and that's the newshour for tonight.m dy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank u and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> ordering takeout. >> finding the west route.al >>ng for hours. >> planning for showers. >> you can do the things you like to do with a wireless plan signed for you. with talk, text and data. consumer cellular. learn moret consumercellular.tv >> and with the ongoing support
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