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[applause] >> and now, "bbc world news." wsura: this is "bbc world america." reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. >> ayes to the right, 242. nos to the left, 391. nos have it. the nos have it. laura: a crushing defeat for britain's prime minist may as parliament votes down her modified brexit deal. prime min. may: i profoundly regret the decision this house has taken tonight. i continue to believe that by ear the best outcome is the united kingdom lves the european union in an orderly fashion with a deal. laura: the big question now is what comes next? 1e countdown to brexit
continues, and it days away. plus, a growing list of countries ground the boeing 737 max after two deadly crashes, but so far the u.s. isn't following suit. welcome to our viewers on public television here in america and around thelobe. it was another massive defeat for britain's prime minister high as her modified brexitwa fielrejected by mps. she had hoped last-minute changes would win the day, but she lost by 149 votes.il parliamentvote tomorrow t whether to leave the eu without a deal, y reject that, they will vote on thursday whether to extend brexit beyonn the deadlinerch 29. the eu wou have to approve.
here is mrs. may after the defeat. prime min. may: let me be clear, voting against leaving without a deal and for an extension does not solve the problem weace. the eu -- the eu will wt to know what we need to make such an extension, and the house will have to answer the question. t wish to revoke article 50? does it want to hold a second referendum? or does it want to leave with a deal, but not this deal? these are unenviable choices. but thanks to the decision the house has made this evening, they are choices that must now be faced. laura: joining me from westminster is the bbc's parliament correspondent. last night it seemed that there was a glimmer of hope for mrs.
may and the best the brexit deal, but now discretion defeat. -- this crushing deft. what is th impact? reporter: there was a glimmer of hope, and that is because she said, "i've got these new documents alongside my withdrawal agreement and they are not to legally binding changes,ndhey will do with the thorny issue of how to stop a physical border reappearing on the isf ireland." they did look to be some hope. basically, the attorney general, e government's top lawyer, coming along this morning and making it clear that he couldn't change his legalydvice, tisica that after brexit, the u.k. would stilled into the eu. he said he looked at these documents, and that the risk was reduced with these documents that theresa may got secured, but he couldn't change his legal advice. that was the eding that couand they couldn't vote for the deal. theresa may separate this
massive defeaof 149 votes. laura: what are mps saying to you tonight in the corridors of westminster about mrs.ay continuing as prime minister? course that is the habig question, and we hav one of her own mps, a backbencher, come out when asked reand say that t may is the leader of the conservative party and prime minister for now, hardly a ringing endorsement. what comes next is dependent on the timetable. tsome mps are accepting t theresa may has to stay in place to deal with the immediate aftermath. mps wi have another vote tomorrow night, and that is whether or not to keep no deal as an option. if they reject that idea, they have another vote, a third vote on thursday, and that is on extending the timetable for the u.k. to leave the eu. the eu has a say on this. theresa may has been clear that it there has to be an extension, past be a short one.
if the euay you can stay but it has to be a longer extension, there are all sorts of possibilities. there are questions about should there be a secondm, referen general election, is it time for new leader of the conservative party. all of those questions will bubble to the surface. at the moment mps are staying very tightlipped about this. i have heard some remainers say that they think theresa may should stay. but anything could change over the space of the next week. laura: alicia mccarthy in westminster, thank you. for more otoday's developments and the globalmpact i spoke a ief time ago with heather conley, a former state department official for european affairs who is now at the center for sttegic and international studies, and nile gardiner, the director ounthe heritage tion's margaret thatcher center for freedom. i started by asking if brexit was drifting away? nile: i don't think brexit is lost, but the reality is that today was a bad day for the prime minister.
i think she badly misjudged the mood of her own party. the deal she negotiated with uhe europeon was not a good deal. it was viewed by a lot of conservative mps as a surrendert european union' i don'think brexit is lost. i would say that even if parliament votes tomorrowea against a noand votes in favor of an extension to article 50 on thursday, we are still on the trajectory towards a no-deal president on march 29. it is an immensely complex process for the eu to agree to a specific exit date for the u.k. also, parliament has to put in place new legislation which overturns the original march 29 days and sets a new te. there has to be a parliamentary debate. thisak all a lot of time. i think there is a good chance we could see a no-deal brexit on march 29. laura: absy. to that very point, heather,t tonichel barnier, chief negotiator for the eu on brexit, ashe tweeted that the euone everything it can to get the brexit deal over the line.
are no-deal preparations more important than ever? does it seem to you as though the eu is preparing for a no deal? heather: i think they have to prepare for every scenario, and both sides have been preparing for this exact scenari the government will lay forward some more documents tomorrow that discuss what the no-deal scenario means. i think the european union has done what it could do, and that extraordinary dnight session with jean-claude juncker in strasbourg where t prime minister flewre tthey have tried, but there were also clear that the withdrawal agreement was not going to be reopened. i think there was. that that -- there was false hope that that could happen. there has been a miscalculation about the eu position for the last two years.un unfoely, we are running into 17 more days of a pretty dramatic domestic miscalculations as wel as miscarriage relations --
alculations of the eu. laura: would you agree that the brexiteers miscalculated the position of the eu and that brexit was always going to be harder? nile: i think brexiteers were always clear that the eu was always going to be difficult to deal with. absolutely, the eu has been extremely difficult to deal with. i think the eu has not negotiated in good faith. the problems have been compounded by the fact that we have a prime minister in pla who has not been particularly strong-willed or powerful in her negotiations. quite a bad combination. but i think brexiteers hav always viewed the eu as a very, very tough adversary. they have been a very toughad rsary, had adversarial negotiations. the eu has not offered anyon concessis whatsoever. i think the prime ministere misjudged th. t e underestimated the gravity of hostility thaists in brussels towards brexit and also towards britain as well, on the
brt of many eu officials. she got outplayed ssels. laura: meanwhile, what does this do to britain's standing in the world, as itrapples with brexit maybe indefinitely? heather: so much oour focus has been on this day by day, hour-by-hour, extraordinary history that we are watching fold. we are not appreciating the impact that brexit will have on the future of the europeann, unhich will be a lessan signifforce -- trade, onomically, foreign poli security actor. it is struggling mightily with res own decisions. we are not fully aating that the united kingdom has been so focused on brexit that it is difficult to reach ae a u.k. that is going to be a global player, that global britain that we keep hearing about. it is understandable -- everyone is so domestically focused right now. the united stes is losing two valuable partners and their energy and concentration on a lot of chaneenges, from ela to iran to north
korea, because they are struggling on the subject. laura: would you accept that britain's focus has been diminished because of brexit that could continue if there is a gcond referendum eral election? nile: i think a second referendum would be a bad idea. it would be a slap in the face to the 17.4 million britonsad who alvoted to leave the eu, and that democratic positioc has to be red by parliament. owould say that if britain manages to get othe eu, and i think it will do so eventually, britain will be a tremendous force on rld stage, especially standing s.alongside the united sta and i think that the british econy is doing very well, foreign direct investment is flowing to the u.k. u.s. fdi into britain itself, 20% in 2017. the long-term outlook is very good. just provided britain can get out of the eu together, which uld be a very good thing. laura: and yet britain has not yet left the eu. would you say that the outlook is good? heather: economically we have
seen an incredible amount of softening because of this uncertainty. s. companies are making a lot of cency plans, as are global companies. i agree with nile on one hand in that when there is clarity and people can make decisions and the u.k. can start seeingun oppoies rather than going through this, there is a possibility. but we are witnessing a 40-year breakup, and both sides are going to be lesser because of it. but y 're going to hopefut to the opportunity as quickly as possible. laura: indee, heather conlle gardiner, thank you for joining us. in other news, actresses felicity huffman and loughlin are among dozens of people charged today as part of a national conspiracet students into prestigious colleges. the massivfederal indictment says the scam was to help student athletes get into top schools. in some cases it is alleged a third party took college exit exams on behalf of students and others had fake hletic
profiles created for them. manchester city will pay millions of dollars in compensation for chi victims of sexual abuse at the hands of former youth coaches. they worked for the football club in the 1960's. the victims will receive personal apology. unease aboutting the safety of one of boeing's mostopar planes. the u.k., france, and germany ha joined at least 10 other countries in grounding the aircraft, after a boeing 737 max 8 crashed on sunday, killing neevern board. it was the second fatal accident involving that model in less than five months. a brief time ago i spoke to a retired pilot about the safety concerns many are raising. captain, what is the flying public to make of it when some regulators grounded their crafts . in the ugulators don't? >> if i had to choose between e grounding rplane and where
we are right now, i would take a stand quite frankly to ground the airplane. you want to err on the side of safety. sadly, in a lot of places, theu way ell safety starts with a dollar sign in front of it. in this country, one of the iculties we have in the united states is historically the faa has had dual mandates. e they had to promfety as well as promoting commerce.a again, froejudicial point of view, safety seems to take priority in many cases. laura: isn't that the problem.s here, that thefederal aviation authority is being seen by the rest of the ws backing boeing and not passenger safety? capt. weiss: it is a pceived idea, and perhaps that is true, but we don't really know. what evidence is there exactly that says the aircraft should be ground?
again, if it were up to me, i would have grounded the aircraft. as they did years ago. laura: meanwhile, u.s. investigats are helping the ethiopian regulators investigate this crash. now that thehave got the black boxes, what will they be looking for? capt. weiss: typically in any type of accident or incident, they will look for anomalies in the flight path, history of the aircraft, had it had any writeups on that particular system before, what were the remedies taken for that system.a icularly after the lion airde ac, they will want to know what kind of training the pilot has had. g they ang to go into the history of the pilots, their training records, their sleep -- do they have enough sleep before this? t they will the engine manufacturers. they may be geared to look for a particular problem based upon
what happened before, but when you get an organization like thi ntsb or bea, i take a fresh look at this and say that t have to look at everything. we don't wabe led down a tth because of prior accidents. we want to make sut if there is something else that could have been a problem, we want to find it and t. laura: boeing is rolling out a software update in the wake of the lion air crash. ththat was happening befor second crash. that does suggest there was something afoot, doesn't it? capt. iss: absolutely. the idea was that this came out -- the timing is coincidental, perhaps, but boeing probably recogniz that there was some type of difficulty with the new modification that was made because ofhe performance of the aircraft and the way that the engines are mounted and the way that the envelope has changed because of that. laura: thank you so much for joining us.
capt. weiss: thank you. laura: you are wd ching "bbc wows america." still to come on tight's program, navigating the sahara in silence. electric engines are looking to power the future in africa. the inventor of the world wide web has warned that global action is needed to stop the internet being used to spread ngsinformation. spean the 30th anniversary of excretion, sir -- of its creation, sir tim berners-lee says people are worried about the data being manipulated. jones he.n m arory: 30 years ago computer scientist in geneva was thinking of a better way of showing infoation. with tim berners-lee's idea theb world wideas born. he is worried about what it has become, a vehir spreading hate and misinformation.
sir tim: for most people on the street, the tipping point was the cambridge analyta moment, people knew that internet privacy was somethingri other people w about. when the cambridge analytica being went down, they realized that elections hav manipulated using data. rory: are you optimistic that this can be sorted? sir tim: i think so. we have a generation of young people who are pretty active, activist about things like their privacy, where to a certain extent they weren't fore. yes, i think we have got the motivation toe , soto do the right thing long as the eyes the --sp individuals holding them to account. rory: would you still believe
that the web has been aor for good? sir tim: for the first 15 of those. right now it is really in the lae. i saw thisng p towards the dysfunctional future. ouwith a ce' correction, 'm gaoptimistic. laura: electric cars are seen by many as the future of transport, but replacing the vehicles powered by diesel is proving a slow process. isone swedish companrying togs speed thp by replacing traditional engines so they run on electricity.in the scheme is tried out in kenya, where as alasir leithead reports, it is gaining support.
alastair: sneaking up on a rare black rhino has never been easier. >> this is as close as you can be to a black rhino. they have poor eyesight but a good sense of hearing. alastair: an electric car can negotiate the savanna in silence. but improving the chances of seeing the big five is just the beginning for a swedish startup company thatet its sights much wider. >> it was the perfect market to enter. they had the needs ofourists visiting, having high requirements on sustainability. all across the world we have 1.1 billion vehicles. why should we replace all of those with the new electric cars when we can convert them and reuse that material and use that energy and those resources? alastair: it is simples 1, 2, and 3.bi these are the prize, converting nairobi's minibuses
to electric would have a huge impact. there is currently a s of electricity here. but a huge number of kenyans are not on the national grid. and so are turning to small-scale solutions. she pays a dollar a day for her solar system and can charge a phone, torch, and watch tv having a light at night samuel -- means samuel can do his homework. there are two ways the future of africa's powered generation can. one is the small-scale, from the individual to these more community-sized mini grids thaty eventull join up. or the massive hydroelectric power station, dams being built to generate electricity on an industrial scale.th tat is what epia is trying to do, by buildings vast dam across the blue nile. the waters of the congo river uld power africa. there are multibillion-dollar plans to extend this project. but it will need to build power lines, too.
this is't necessarily the answer. >> the future of power in africa is going to be a patwork between residential, solar, mini grids, and there willebe large hydrric dams. however, investment being financ quiteno predatory, anreally for the benefit for the host countries. alastair: small and silent steps could be the best way to electrify africa. and like mobile phonele technologyfrog the need for a vast power grid spending -- spanning the continent. alastair leithead, bbc news, nairobi. laura: returning to p story, the second defeat of the british prime minister's brexit deal. now there is even more uncertainty about what comes next. what do the british people think this turmoil, especiall those who voted for brexit? our deputy political itor john pienaar has been to where they
voted to lea, and he was when is whate is -and here he found out. john: it has been hard has been painful. didha brexi to be this tough? down in this small gym, i found me, not all, blame europe. do you think, as some say, that we are being bullied by europe, that they are being intransigent? >> definitely, yes. >> bully boy tactics. john: bully boy tactics. what do you think? >> ho would you expect them t be any different? someone chooses to leave, i'm still going to do wh i do. i'm going to get on with my business. that is what the eis doing. john: nothing is easy except blaming politicians for the painful slog of brexit. two easy? still just bickering and points scoring -- these are genuine differences among mps. >>hismall gym up to
ltinationals trying to make decisions about how the business moves forward. >> if you've got a problem at home with your family, you sit down and you work it out and you al with it. on a larger scale, that is what uld be doing with the country. john: changing, adapting, evolving. l businesses must do tha like this family hat maker down the road. but ask the boss, anotr one feeling the strain of uncertainty. a brexiteer would say it is going to settle down. >> sure it will, but when? they have all had us danglinon a wire for too long. make a decision. let us know where areoing. the confidence from that will return. john:s businessman, as a father, your daughter loves this how would it be if you could not carry on? >> dreadful. if there is not a marketplace for my daughter to be able to continue the business, it is going to my generation have let the next generation down because it is over.
john: on the shop floor, janet is more upbeat, looking forward to her birthday on march 29, but brexit day. she told me her boss worries tou . on, donene is going with it. i think we should just wait and see. john: it is going to ruin your birthday. >> if we stay in, yeah. i look forward to celebrating md bi and coming out of europe. b i'llhappy. [laughter] john: give me a verdict. >> it is a good all arnd -- john: he would say that. choosing is sometimes hard. britn chose brexit, but what kind and when? answering that will take some time. john pienaar, bbc news. laur remember, you can find much more on all the day's news at our website, including the latest on the brexit negotiations. of course, we will have full coverage of tomorrow's vote on whetheto support a no-deal
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