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[applause] >> and now, "bbc world news." laura: this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. >> ayes to the right, 242. nos to the left, 391. nos have it. the nos have it. laura: a crushing defeat for britain's prime minister theresa may as parliament votes down her modified brexit deal.i prime min. mayofoundly regret the decision this house has taken tonight. i continue to believe that by far the best outcome is the united kingdom leaves the europe union in an orderly fashion with a deal. laura: the big question now is what comes next?
the counown to brexit continues, and it is 17 days away. plus, a growing list of boeing 737round t maxwo aftereadly crashes, but so far the u.s. isn't following suit. welcome to our viewers on public television here in america and around the globe. it was ather massive defeat for britain's prime minister high as her modified brexit field was rejected by mps. she had hoped last-minute changes would win the day, but shlost by 149 votes. parliament will vote tomorrow on whether to leave the eu without a deal, if they reject that, they will vote on thursday whether to extend brexit beyond the deadline on march 29.
the eu would have to approve. here is mrs. may after the defeat. prime min. may: let me be clear, voting against leaving without a deal and for an extensiothdoes not solvproblem we face. the t eu eu will want to know what wee need to mch an extension, and the house will have to answer the question. does it wish to revok article 50? does it want to hold a second referendum? ea does it want to leave with a deal, but not this these are unenviable choices. but thanks to the decihe house has made this evening, they are choic that must now be faced. laura: joining me from westminster is the bbc's parliament correspondent. last night it seemed that there was a glimmer of hope for mrs.
y and the best the brexit deal, but now discretion defeat. -- this crushing defeat. what is the impact? errepo there was a glimmer of hope, and that is because she said, "i've got these new documents alongsidewi my drawal agreement and they are not to legally binding changes, and they will do with the thorny issue of how to stop ang physical border reappean the island of ireland." id look to be some hope. basically, the attorney general, the government's top lawyer, coming along this morning and making it clear that he couldn'l change his leg advice, basically that after brexit, the u.k. would still be tied into the eu. he said he looked at these documents, and that the risk was reduced with these documents that theresa may g secured, but he couldn't change his legal advice. hat was the thing that counted, and they couldn't vote for the deal.
theresa y separate this ssive defeat of 149 votes. laura:sa what are mpng to you tonight in the corridors of westminster about mrs. may continuing as prime minister? course that is the big question, and we have had one of her own mps, a backbencher, come out when asked and say that theresa may is the leader of the conservative party ndd prime minister for now, hardly a ringingsement. what comes next is dependent on the timetable. some mps are accepting that theresa may has to stay in pl te to deal wi immediate aftermath. mps will have another vote tomorrow night, and that is whether or not to keep no deal as an opti. if they reject that idea, they have ano vere, a third vote on thursday,exnd that is on nding the timetable for the u.k. to leave the eu. thea eu ha say on this. theresa may has been clear that it there has to be an extension,
past be a short one. if the eu says you can stay but it has to be a longer extension, there are all sorts of possibilities. there are questions about should there be a second referendum, general election, is it time for new leader of the conservative party. all of those questions will bubble to the surface. bo the moment mps are staying very tightlipped this. erhave heard some remainers say that they think a may should stay. t t anything could change over the space of the nek. laura: alicia mccarthy in westminster, thank you. for more on today's developments and the global impact i spoke a brief time ago with heather conley, a former state department official for european affairs who is now at the center for strategic and international studies, and nile gardiner, the director of the heritage foundation's margaret thatcher center for freedom. i started by asking if brexit was drifting away? nile: i don't think brexit is lost, but the reality is thatd today was a y for the
prime minister. i think she badly misjudged the mood of her own party. the deal she negotiated with the european union was not a good deal. it was viewed by a lot of conservative mps as a surrender to the european union. i don't think brexit is lost. i would say that even if parliament votes tomorrow against a no deal and votes in favor an extension to article 50 on thursd, we are still on the trajectory towards a no-deal prident on march 29. it is an immensely complex process for the eu to agice to a specxit date for the u.k. also, parliament has to put in place new legislation which overturns the original march 29d daysets a new date. there has to be a parliamentary debate. this all takes a lot of time. i think there is a good chance we could see a no-deh brexit on ma. laura: absolutely. to that very point, heather, tonight michel barnier, chief negotiator for the eu on brexit, he tweeted that the eu has done everything it can to get the brexit deal over the line.
are no-deal preparations more important an ever? does it seem to you as though the eu is preparing for a no deal? heather: i think they have to prepare for every scenario, and both sides have been preparing for this exact scenario. the government wl lay forward some more documents tomorrow that discuss what the -deal scenario means. i think the european union has done what it could do, and that extraordinary midnight session with jean-claude juncker in strasbourg where the prime minister flew there, they have tried, but there were also clear that the withdrawal agreement was not going to be reopen. i think there was. that that -- there was false hope that that could happen. there been a miscalculation about the eu position for the last two years. unfortunately, we are running into 17 more ds of a pretty dramatic domestic miscalculations as well as miscarriage relations --
miscalculations of the eu. laura: would you agree that the brexiteers miscalculated the position of the eu and that brexit was always going to be harder? nile: i think brexiteers were ways clear that the eu w always going to be difficult to deal with. absolutely, the eu has been extremely difficult to deal with. i think the eu has not negotiated in good faith. the problems have been mmpounded by the fact that we have a priister in place who has not been particularly strong-willed or powerful in her negotiations. quite a bad combination.ex but i think briteers have always viewed the eu as a very, very tough adversary. they have been a very tough adversary, had adversarial negotiations. the eu has not offered any concessions whatsoever. i ink the prime minister misjudged the eu. she underestimated the gravity of hostility that exists in brussels towards brexit and also towards britain as well, on the
part of many eu officials. she got outplayed by brussels. laura: meanwhile, what does is do to britain's standing in the world, as it grapples with brexit maybe indefinitely?at r: so much of our focus has been on this day by day, hour-by-hour, extraordinarye history thate watching unfold. we are not appreciating the impact that brexit will have on the future of the european union, which will be a less significant force -- trade, economically, foreign policy security actor. it is struggling mightily with its own decisions. we are not fully appreciating that the united kingdom has been so focused on brexit that it is difficult to reach and have a u.k. that is going to be a global player, tt global ringain that we keep h about. it is understandable -- everyone is so domestically focused right now. the united states is losing two valuable partners and their energy a lot of challenges, from
venezuela to iran to north korea, because they are struggling on the subject. laura: would you accept that britain's focus has been diminished because of brexit? that could continue if there is a second referendum or general elecon? nile: i think a second referendum would be a bad idea. it would be a slap in the face to the 17.4 million britons who already voted to leave the eu, and that demratic position has to be respected by parliament. i would say that if britain manages to get out of the eu, and i think it will do so eventually, britain e a tremendous force on the world stage, especially standing alongside the united states. and i think that the british economy is doing very well, foreign direct investment is flowing to the u.k. s. fdi into britain itself, 20% in 2017. the long-term outlook y good. just provided britain can getou of the eu altogether, which would be a very good thing. laura: and yet britain has not yet left the eu. would you say that the outlookoo is heather: economically we have
seen an incredible amount ofbe softeninuse of this uncertainty. u.s. companies are making a lot of contingency plans, as are global companies. i agree with nile on one hand in that when there is clarity and people can make deciand the u.k. can start seeing opportunities rather than going through this, there is a possibility. -ybut we are witnessing a r breakup, and both sides are going to be lesser because of it. but we're going to hopefully get to the opportunity as quickly as possible. laura: indeed. heather conley, nile gardiner, thank you for joining us. in other news, actresses felicity huffman and lori loughlin are among dozens of people charged today as part of a national conspiracy to get students into prestigious colleges. the massive federal indictment says the scam was help student athletes get into top schools. in some cases it is alleged a third party took college exit exams on behalf oftudents and
others had fake athletic profiles created for them. manchester city will pay millions of dollars in sacompon for child victims of sexual abuse at the hands of former youth coaches. they worked for the football club in the 1960's. the victims will receive a personal apology. unease aboutnt the safety of one of boeing's most popular planes. the u.k., france, and germany have joined at least 10 other countries in grounding the aircraft, after a boeing 737 max 8 crashed on sunday, killing everyone on board. it was the second fatal accident involving that model in less than five months. a brief time ago i spoke to a retired pilot about the safety concerns many are raising. captain,hat is the flying public to make of it when some crregulators grounded theits in the u.s. regulators don't?ho >> if i had toe between
grounding the airplane and where we are right now, i would take a stand quite frankly to ground the airplane. you want to err on the side of safety. sadly, in a lot of places, the way you spell safety starts with ita dollar sign in front o in this country, one of the difficulties we have in the united states is histors ally the faa d dual mandates. they had to promote safety as well as promoting commerce. again, from a prejudicial point of view, safety seems to take priori in many cases. laura: isn't that the problem here, that the u.s. federal aviationuthority is being seen by the rest of the world as backing boei and not passenger safety? capt. weiss: it is a perceived idea, and perhapthat is true, but we don't really know. what evidence is there exactly that says the aircraft should be grounded?
again, if it were up to me, would have grounded the aircraft. as they did years ago. laura: meanwhile, u.s. investigators are helping the ethiopian regulators investigate is crash. now that they have got the black boxes, what will they be looking for? capt. weiss: typically in any type of accident or incident, they will look for anomalies in the flight path, history of the aircraft, had it had any t iteups on that particular system before, wre the remedies taken for that system. particularly after the lion air accident, they will want to know what kind of training the pilot has had. they are going to go into the history of the pilots, their training records, their sleep -- do they have enough sleep before this? they will go to the engine manufacturers. theyay be geared to look for particular problem based upon
what happened before, but when you get an organization like the ntsb or bea, it will take a fresh look at this and say that we have look at everything. we don't want to be led down a path because of prior accidents. we want to make sure that if there is something else that could have been a problem, we want to find it and stop it. laura: boeing isolling out a software update in the wake of the lion air crash. that was happening before the second crash. that does suggest there was something afoot, does't it? capt. weiss: absolutely. the idea was that this came out -- the timing is coincidental, perhaps, but boeing probably recognized that there was some type of difficulty with the new modification that was made because of the performance of the aircraft and the way that the engines are mounted and the way that the envelope has changed because of that. laura: thank you so much for joining us.
capt. weiss: thank you.la a: you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, navigating the sahara in silence. ectric engines are looking to power the future in africa. the inventor of the world wide web has warned that global action is needed to stop the internet being used to spread misinformation. speaking on the 30th anniversary of excretion, sir -- of its creation, sir timerners-lee says people are worried about the data being manipulated. jones has more. rory: 30 years ago a computer scientist in geneva was thinking of a better way of showing information. with tim berners-lee's idea the world wide web was born. hess worried about what it become, a vehicle for spreading
hate and misinformion. sir tim: for most peoplen the street, the tipping point was the cambridge analytica moment, people knew that internet privacy was something other people worried about. when the cbridge analytica thing went down, they realized that elections have been manipulated using data. rory: are you optimistic that this can be sorted? sitim: i think so. we have a generation of young people who are pretty active, activist about things like their privacy, where to a hertain extentweren't before. yes, i think we have got the motivation toe , soto do the right thing long as the eyes the -- isp individuals holding them to account.
rory: would you still believe that the web has been a force for good? sir tim: for the first 15 of those. right now it is balance.in the i saw this plunge towards the dysfunctional future. with a course correction, i'm optimistic again. laura: electric cars are seen by many as the future of transport, but replacing the vehicles powered by diesel is proving a slow process. one swedish company is trying to speed things up by replacing traditional engines so they run on electricity. the scheme is being tried out in kenya, where as alastair leithead reports, it is gaining
support. alastair: sneaking up on a rare black rhino has neve easier. >> this is as close as you can be to a black rhino. they have poor eyesight but a good sense of hearing. alastair: an electric car can negotiate the savanna in silence. but improvg the chances of seeing the big five is just the beginning for a swedish startup company that set its sights much wider. >> it was the perfect market t enter. they had the needs of tourists visiting, having high requirements on sustaity. all across the world we have 1.1 billion vehicles. w why shoureplace all of those with the new electric cars when we can convert them and reuse that material and reuse that energy and those resources? alastair: it is simple as 1, 2, and 3. these are the big prize, converting nairobi's minibuses
to electc would have a huge impact. there is currently a surplus of electricity here. but a huge number of kenyans are not on the national id. and so are turning to small-scale solutions. shedo pays ar a day for her solar system and can charge a phone, torch, and watch tv.ha ng a light at night samuel -- means samuel can do his homework. there are two ways the future of africa's pered generation can go. one is the small-scale, from the individual to these more community-sized mini grids that eventually all join up. or the massive hydroelectric power station, dams being built to g industrial scale. on an that is what ethiopia is trying to do, by building this vast dam across the blue nile. the waters of the ngo river could power africa. there are multibillion-dollar plans to extend this project. but it will need to builpower
lines, too. this isn't necessarily the answer. >> the future of power in africa is going to be a patchworkn betw residential, solar, a mini grid there will be large hydroelectric dams. ho financed by the chinese can be quite predatory, and not really for the benefit for the host countries. alastair: small and silent steps could be the btrt way to elecy africa. and like mobile phone technology, leapfrog the need for a vast power grid spending -- spanning the continent. alastair leithead, bbc news, nairobi. laura: returning to our top story, the second defeat of thei british prime er's brexit deal. now there is even more uncertainty about what comes next. what do the british ople think of this turmoil, especially those who voted for brexit? ourut dpolitical editor john
pienaar has been to where they ted to leave, and he was when isnd whatis -- and here he fou out. john: it has been hard, it has been painful. did brexit have to be this tough? down in this small g, i found some, not all, blame europe. do you think as some say, that we are being bullied by europe, that they are being intransigent? >> definitely, yes. >> bully boy tactics. john: bully boy taics. what do you think? >> how would you expect them to be any different? , someone chooses to leavei'm still going to do what i do. i'm going to get on with my business. atths what the eu is doing. john: nothing is easy except blaming politicians for the painful slog of brexit. two easy? still just bickering and points scoring -- these are genuine differences among mps. >> this small gym up to
multinationals trying to make decision moves forward.business >> if you've got a problem at home with your family, you sit down and you work it out and you deal with it. on a larger scale, that is what they should be doing with the country. john: changing, ad.ting, evol all businesses must do that, like this family hat maker down. the rok but the boss, another one feeling the strain ofce unainty. a brexiteer would say it is going to settle down. >> sure it will, but when? hathey have alus dangling on a wire for too long. make a decision.us lenow where we are going. the confidence from that will return. john: as a businessman, as a father, your daughter loves this business. how would it be if you could not carry on? >> dreadful. plif there is not a marke for my daughter to be able to continue the business, it is gog to end. my generation have let the next generation down because it is ooer.
john: on the shop janet is more upbeat, looking forward to her birthday on march 29, but brexit day. she told me r boss worries too much. on, donene is gng with it. i think we should just wait and see. john: it is going to ruin your birthday. le if we stay in, yeah. i look forward to ating my birthday and coming out of europe. i'll be happy. [laughter] john: give me a verdict. >> it is a good all arnd -- john: heould say that. choosing is sometimes hard. britain chose brexit, but what kind and when? answering that will take some time. .ohn pienaar, bbc ne laura: remember, you can find much more on all the day's ounews awebsite, including the latest on the brexit negotiations. of course, we will have full coverage of tomorrow's vote on whether to support a no-deal
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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: brexit in the balance. the u.k. parliament rejects prime minister may's latt plan to leave the european union at the end of the month. then, grounding the fleet. the u.s. continues to allow the boeing 787-max jets to fly, as europe and others countries ban them from the skies. and, "varsity blues." dozens of parents and coaches are indicted, after a federal investigation into widespread college admissions fraud at elite universities. plus, we return to the southern rder, this time in mexico, to examine the harsh cond and uncertainty faced by migrant families waiting to enter the u.s. legally.