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[applause] >> and now, "bbc worlds." jane: this is "bbc world news america." repoing from washington, i a jane o'brien. backing a brexit delay -- british lawmakers ask for an extension to the march deadline for withdrawal. senate republicans ser up a rare public rebuke of president trump, voting against his use of a national emergency to buila border wall. and beto o'rourke makes it official, joining theid prtial race. but can the rising democrat turt enthusiasmo votes?
welcome to our viewers on public television in the u.s. and around the globe. for the third day running, british mps have juggled high-stakes with high drama, and once again the outme is anything but clear. tonight they voted to approve the governme motion to delay brexit beyond the planned march 29 deadline. that was the date the u.k. was supposed to withdraw from the eu. this is the moment the results were announced. ayes to the right, 412. the nos to the left, 202. the ayes to the right, 412! the nos to the left, 202! ayes have it. ayes have it. jane: the motion means theresa pomay can ask the eu to po brexit by three months or longer. the ming depends on whether
she can get backing for her brexit pla which has already been rejected twice. but any delay has to be agreed byhe other eu member states. 27asitome of the reaction from today's vote. >> there are now two options. ono vote for the deal, get it through, leave in an orderly way. the second is a long delay. >> for the last few days have also put a responsibility on the prime minister. first, to publicly accept theth er deal and no deal are simply no longer viable options. jane: all eyes turn to next week a en mps will be asked once again to back thery's deal, and a crucial summit of ayeuropean leaders on thur could determine how long brexit can be delayed. our deputy political editor john tenaar looks at how the n stages might play out.
john: another concession, another retreat by theresa may. mps have delayed brexit past march 29. they don't know for how long and nor do w mrs. may never wanted this, but she has been weakened by defeat affeat in the commons. with less than a week to go until the next eu summit, her mission somehow is to win around 75 or more tory brexiteers, with leave-supporting labour mps who want a brexit deal theresa may will be calling another a delay, another big vote before she faces eu leaders and asks for the delay in leing. so aside from mrs. may's plan, what are the other options? mps will try to drum up support from behind the scenes. some on both sides including cabinet ministers likember rudd would like brexit closer to
the eu, a bit like norway's, sticking with eu market laws and standards and maybe the custom system. n trade tariffs and border checks. no problem avoiding stocks and checks on the irish border. but it also means no new trade deals around the world. jeremy c customs union.want a he says he can negotiate terms to his liking. then there is another referendum. mps were never likely to back a referendum this evening, but the so-called people's vote campaigners wi be back. what will the eu make of it all? in brussels next week, eu leaders must decide whether to grant the brexit delay at all. signsrehey will, but there may be strings attache both france impose conditions -- conditions? mpose will spain reopen the sovereignty of gibraltar? crucially, will they insist on a long delay until the brits agree on brexit?he tonight, trime minister's last best hope is that all of
her defeats, all h concessions, will pave the way to a deal. fear of a lo delay, possibility of being tied into eu rules, and rear of the reum will persuade and scare mps into backing her deal? some legal guidance from the attorney general that the u.k. might be able to break with eu rules if britain feels trapped. that might help rebels claim down, too. if she wins, it will be a triumph. britain will begin the even r tougsk of discussing the future after brexit, even if many tory mps and ministers say quietly that will be a job for a new prime minister, that mrs. may's time may have all but run out. jane: for more on theatest spoke tovelopments, i david corn. even if all the countries agreed to this, how would any delay to brexit me a difference?
david: that is a big question. theresa may the last two years until very recently insisted that britain is leaving the eu on march 29. with twoeeks to go, there is no consensus. she has faced the political reality that btain is not ready in either political or economic form for the break. what she hopes to do is to call it a technical extension. she is arguing that mps would use the extension to pass laws sot titain could still leave the european union within a matter of months. but of course she is also tying it to the vote next week. e is only going to ask for a short extension, which as we h hard would have to be agreed by the eu -- she will only ask for the short extension if mps vote for her deal. she hopes that the threat of a longer extension, longer delay, will be one reason why she can win at the third attext week.
jane: david, why would mps change their minds at this point having rejected it twice? david: that is another good questi. she lost by 149 votes 48 hours ago. can she change 75 minds in a matter of days? it looks a very tall ask. she is relying on brexiteers, wpeop want to leave the europeanha union, liners in her own party, thinking that this is the nearest thing to brexit they are going to get because if they don't get aor extension, they will have to wait a year for brexit, ande then as ts it is either her deal or no brexit. she hopes she will be able to get that through next week. looking at tonight's vote, she only got tonight's vote with the help of opposition mps. she will not be able to rely on them actually. -- next week. jane: it has been really a
pretty awful week for her. does she have anauthority left? david: it is hard to see how she can surve much longer. the general assumption among conservative mps is that once the withdral agreement is clinched and brexit actually happens, she will move on or be moved on. if you look last night, there cabinetmbers of her ow not supporting her. tonight there were members of her cabinet voting against h. that is not normal in britishli cs. normally ministers who did that would have to resign.th bue are extraordinary times. jane: certainly are. david cornock, thank you veryee much ifor joining me. "build that wall" has been president trump's rallying cry sincday one, but getting it done has not been easy. last month he declared a national emergency to govern -- to divert funds to pay for it, but today the republican-controlled senate issued a stunning rebuke, joing the
democratically-controlled house in voting to end the emergency. president trump says h use the first veto of his presidency to get his way. for more on this, i was joined earlier by thomas bollyky - for more on this i was joined elisabeth bumiller of "the new york times." does this mean he faces deep trouble in the senate as well a use? elisabeth: well, no, becausego what ig to happen is he will veto this, as you say. he is looking forward to it, talking about it already.no there is noth in the house or senate to override his veto, so he will get the emergency declaration. however, it will be tied up in the courts, and the fact that the congress has now rejected the emergency declaration will be a big factor in the court cases. don't forget -- you won'niforget -- thed states went to war with great britain, did not want a king. the idea was that the king has
too much power, and therefore you divide power among three branches of government, and cap --on andess has the money to spend money, not the president. this is a dire rebuke to congress' power. it will be very hard for anyone to win a case when it only does the president do this over the objection of congress, they then have these votes. this will give court cases a lot a power. jane: isn't o republicans rebuking not just the measure, but president trump'signature policy, this wall? i mean, that is pretty stunning, surely. elisabet yes, there is a couple other votes as well. it is not a maive group of republicans -- it was 12 republicans in the senate -- but it was more than we re expecting. we have also seen on the hill in recent weeks that they have voted against trump -- against the war powers resolution.
the house this morning demanded that the attorney general make public everything that he said -- everything that he wille receive about eller report. onat is happening this week especially is thatess is now for the first time standing up to president trump, and it has taken quite some time for them to do that. jane: how big a risk a republican senators taking in going against the president? elisabeth: it's a good question. my guess is that the president will tweet about some of them and gofter some of them. but at this int, he has done it so often, he does it so regularly that is not -- i don't think it is going toe terribly politically damaging to anese republics. perhapse a litt in very conservative districts. but don't forget, the majority of the public does not want this wall. the vast majority of americans think it is a bad idea to build
this wall. it is basically not evensi feasible plly. jane: you mentioned the vote on yemen. do you think they are becoming emboldened right nowo you that this rebuke of the national emergency is a one-off? elabeth: i think the republicans are becoming emboldened. trump is facing -- these 20-some candidates on the democratic side who are in the presidential race, he is facing some resistance from republicans. larry hogan, the governor of maryland, may get in. there are stirrings now among republicans, moderate republicans, against the esident. don't forget, the mueller report is about to come out and no one knat it will contain. the president has never been popular among republicans on capitol hill. don't forget that. but those who have stood by him are those in very conservative districts, very conservative trump states who don'y't want primallenges.
but i do think we are seeing some real movement here. jane: elisabeth bumiller, thanks very mh indeed for joining me. let's have a quick look at some of the day's other news now. the reputed head of new york's gambino crime family has been killed outside his home in staten island in a reputed shooting. it is considered the first targeted killing of a mob t boss city since 1985. the chinese telecom giant huawei has pleaded not guilty in u.s.al court to fedharges including fraud and the violation of sanctions against iran. huawei is accud of working to defraud banks by misrepresenting its relationship with a hong kong-based company that sold products to iran. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's
program, the news may give you heart complications, but i turns out democracyf itsy be good for you. venezuela's opposition leader says president maduro is to blame for escalation. of tensio speaking to the bbc, he did not rule out calling for foreign military intervention. authorities opeiod an investiginto him, accusing him of sabotage the to a c nationwide pow. will: the governnt has opened an investigation into you, accusing you of sabotage. were you or any of y supporters involved in this blackout? mr. guaido: look, unfortunately the electricity crisis in venezuela has been going on for a decade. then-president hugo chavez declared an electrical emergency in 2005 in what they said was the el niño effect.
they invested $100 billion of the time and the department later investigated and found th of more than $80 million and we are suffering the consequences. t will: you have got to ade timing is very strange, very suspect. yorned from a regional tour and all of a sudden the lights go out. the united states does have a record of doing this in latin america -- guatemala, chile, cuba, panama. is washington behind this? mr. guaido: that would be to reduce the conflict into something that is not happening. i don't know about those cases you are referring to in latin america. thatdo -- wha do know is in venezuela for 10 years wom $100 billi stolen from the electrical system. will: is your relationship with the trump administration causing problems with legitimacy? you have the backing of elliot abrams, marco rubio.
what does that say about you r attempt to become president? mr. guaido: it is not an attempt. i am the interim president ofe venezuela becae constitution says so, and my main backing is from the people. jane: beto o'rourke has put to rest questions of whether he will run for psident with a blockbuster rollout. it included a feature spread on the cover of "vanity fair" and a long and energetic campaign swing through iowa. the real question is whether the former texas congressman c harness the same energy from his failed senate bid and turn it into votes on the national stage. thes bbc'n johnson has more. mr. o'rourke: i am running to serve you as president of the united states of america.in dan: fly, the former congressman has shown his hand. his campaign kicked off in iowa, an important election
battleground. mr. o'rourke: no oneoran be spokenno one can be written off, none can be taken for granted. dan: he is a skateboarding punk rocker who is comfortable on stage with mates like willie nelson. congress, hes in drove a barnstorming senate campaign. he pulls crowds and raises cash in a way few others can. mr. o'rourke: the dude wearing the "make america great again" cap, you can come in, too. dan: he ran ted cruz close in one of the tightest races texas en. he didn'ts win, but clearly ambition hasn't suffered. mr. o'rourke: we can begin byoc fixing our dcy and ensuring that our government works for everyone and not just corporations. we can invest in the dignity of those who work and those who seek to work. we can ensure that every single american can see a doctor and be
well enough to live to their full potential. all of us, wherever you live, cap acknowledge that if immigration is a problem, it is the best posble problem for this country to have. dan: what does the president think? hands are not usually his favorite talking point. pres. trump:ev i've seen so much hand movement. is he crazy, or is that how he acts? dan: your full charisma, irring speeches -- for supporters, there are echoes of a kennedy het he joins a stage full of democratic hopen,ls. dan johnbc news. jane: for more on beto o'rourke and the growing field, i spoke with democratic strategist mary anne marsh. hohas beto o'rourke entering the race change the dynamic for the democrats? mary anne: beto o'rourke has been the looming presence across the entire fie for so long,
but you have to ask yourself, ble to meet the astronomical expectations placed on him in this race? he was a rising star and political force in that ra in texas, but his star has faded ai bwhen he lost the race, also in this long period of contemplation he took to decide whether to run. jane: how does he take the energy and razzle-dazzle into actual votes? mary anne: that is the key point here. can beto o'rourke based on charisma and a cult of popularity push his way through the nkwa caucuses, which i thi he has to win, because the 4 contests after that -- new hampshire, south -arolina, nevatougher races for him. he needs to slingshot his way with a win in iowa, to new hampshire, to get that kind of momentum. when you look at it, is he the next barack obama, or is he going to be a bust? nohe doehave a lot of experience, not a lot of policy
positions, but a ton ofis ch. jane: theh other person with h expectations is joe biden. has not declared yet. any news on when he will? mary anne: i think it will be closer to the end of march and early april. this fundraising quarter ends in march and if you get in this month you might have something on the books and it will not be a lot of money. i think everyone is creeping their way into april. try to start fresh in april with fundraising. and especially with joe biden, he has never beeraa great funder and he does not have the grassroots network that a lot of candidates have in this race. it is something he will have to work very hard at. jane: what about the challenge of age and the fact that he will be competing against fresh faces like beto o'rourke? mary anne: there are two things to think about joe biden. first and foremost is is he going to be a better candidate than the other two times for president? the recent he is not president today is that he was a bad the two other attempts he made and he lost because of self-inflicted wounds. i don't think physical age
matters for joe biden, even though there are fresh faces in this race, as much as the positions he has taken over the yes and the long time he has been in politics. as the saying goes, if you are explaining, you are not winning, and joe biden has been explaining a lot of things from his political past, in addition to the fact that no one has laid a gl him over 10 years. he was a popular vice president with barack obama, but he has not been in a political environment and does not have a political oanization that has been his own for over 10 years. jane: mary anne marsh, thank you for joining me. mary anne: thanks so much, pleasure. jane: if thinking about politics makes you feel ill at the moment, you might be surprised to learn that democracy is good for your health. -- good for you. that is according to a new study which found that countries that switch to democracy experience improved life expectancy and fewer deaths than heart disease. ,arlier i spoke to tom bollyky
author of "plagues and the power of progress." weanks very much for joining me. what is the link b health and democracy? thtom: the link between hend democracy historically is pretty modest. most were many autocracies have done well on health, done well on life expectancy, child mortality, and countries like cuba and chi were held out as global success stories what is different about the research now is it looks at what happening to countries now that they are shifting to heart disease, diabetes, can not just life expectancy, but people get sick and die from? what we find is the link between democracy and deaths from these diseases is quite strong. adult life expectancy goes upir 30% within the 10 years
after a country has tioned to democracy. for each increase in the metric yfor democratic experienc see a reduction of about 2% of cardiovascular disease. jane: this is quite good news for democracy, because it has been getting a bad rap and all feel stressed m at the moment. tom: there is political upheaval in europe and the united states, gridlock, and it is hard to make the case for democracy. so this is aexciting result for that. and it opens up new possibilities as well. in global health you see aid flatlined over the lt five to 10 years. there is less suppt going to global health, particularly as these diseases, chronic diseases have risen. this provides an opportunity for maybe a way of engaging all that that isn't so money-intensive.
jane: but are you talking about better access to health care, or is it something about the systed ocracy itself?at tom: git's both. democracies -- and i should say in particular the results suggest free and fair elections bl make governments accoun for trying to address the n oader needs of the population. it also means ofat you have a freer media, more civil society, and that makes people able to share information as ll. couple things you see -- democracies as they become more democratic start spending more on health. and you also see that mortality really starts to decline. that is probly from increased services, but also just the government feelinghe need to regulate the kinds of things that lead to cardiovascular disease, like tobacco use. jane:na fasng stuff. thanks very much for joining me. hatom:s so much for having me.
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