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[applause] >> and now, "bbc world news." jane: this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i am jane o'brien. at least 49 people have been killed and manmore seriously injured after a mass shooting at two mosques in new zealand. >> the shooting and the shooting and e shooting, it went on about six minute or more. i could hear screaming and crying. n now the 28-year-old charged with murder will appear in court shortly. he posted a far-right manifesto and streamed the attack online. esident trump issues his first veto striking downss a congnal effort to stop his national emergency on the
southern border. jane: welcome to our viewers on public television in america and around the globe. at least 49 people have been killed and dozens more have been injured after a gunman opened fire during friday prayers at two mosques in new zealand. the attacker identied himself as a 28-year-oldal ausn, and he will appear in court shortly. he filmed the shooting, string streaming the whole thing live on social media. aprime minister jacinrn talked about changing gun laws in the country. prime min. ardern: whan people hearthis individual acquired a gun license and acquired weapons of that range,
then obviously people will be seeking changetiand i am comm to that. jane: prime minister jacinda ardern. she went on to say that she wod be traveling to christchurch. the bbc's hywel griffith is therand sent this report. hywel: fear etched on their faces, people fled the christchurch mosques looking for safety, as armed police searched city streets. worshipers say he shot indiscriminately, walking from room to room, sparing no one in his path. >> i was hearing the shootingan shooting and the shooting. it went on about six minute or more. i could hear screaming and crying. i saw some people drop dead. the guy was taking the rounds
out side next to the mosque walls, and then he took the gun and started again. hywel: a man intifying himself austrian-born brenton tarrant live-streamed his attack on facebook. earlier he posted a 73-page document fullam of anti-i hatred online. as well as images of his weapons, slogans scrawled on them by hand.ar the attackted two mosques in christchurch and at around 1:40 local time, police responded to reports of shots being fired at the al noor mosque. least 41 people were killed here. the second shooting was a short drive away at the linwood mosque, where at least seven people were killed. one other died in hospital. police also defused veral explosive devices attached to a vehicle. >> i heard and saw what i
thought were firecrackers. i saw young fellows running down the street. all of a sudden it got quite violent and i thought, those are not firecrackers. the started falling. one fell to the left of my car and one fell to the right. the guy on the street was trying to render his wife, and the other guy i could see was in bad shape but i could geim because that is directly where -- i could not get to him because that is directly where gunfire was coming from. the guy i was compressing, he was trying to ring his wife. i managed to get it and i answered the phone and i said, "your husband has been inside the mosque. don't come here, you won't get through, but please go to a hospital and wait for him." i kept talking to him and telling him that she was at the hospital waiting and he wasn't to give up. we just kept pressure on until
we got some help. hywel: the manhunt through christchurch eventually ended with a car being rammed by the police and the suspect being wrestled to the ground. four people had been arrested. one has been released. >> we never assume there are not other people involved. that is why we have immense presence out there across canterbury and right across new zealand. but we don't have named or identified people we are looking for. it would be wronerto assume this no one else. hywel: the city's emergency erservices remain on high christchurch's hospital has been treating dozens of people with gunshot woun and is closed to all other admissions. late into the night, christchurch has remained a city on lockdown. there is genuine fear that there may yet be further attacks. across the country, all mosques have been ordered to close their doors, and for the first time, new zealand's terror threat
level has been raised to high.de the ep sense of shock have felt in new zealand has echoed throughout the world. messages have been sent from the ndpope, president trump,he queen. new zealaers are astonished this could have happened. >> you don't think something like this could happen in new zealand, in christchurch of all places, such a smallnity, so kind and loving. i don't understand why someone would hurt us like this in such a way, just like an animal. why would you treat us like that? hywel: in times of such sorrow, the was little that can comfort people today as they confront the question of how such a violent extremism could been allowed to fester here. hywel griffith, bbc news, ristchurch. jane: president trump has spoken about the attack, saying he talked to new zealand's prime minister and offered his condolences. pres. trump: earlier today ime
spoke with pinister ardern of new zealand to express the sorrow of our entire nation qullowing the monstrous terror attacks at two m. these sacred places of worship were turned into scenes of evil killing. you have all been seeing what went on. it is a horrible, horrible thing. i told the prime minister that the united states is with them all the way. jane: the gunman said he was a 28-year-old australian named brenton tarrant. our security correspondent gordon carrera has been trying to find out more about the man and his motives. gordon: brenton tarrant, seen here in his car in in in she he streamed live on the internet. moments later, the 28-year-old would enter a mosque to kill.no what do weabout him? born in australia, he traveled widely, seen here in pakistan, though he also visited europe. before the attacks he posted a rambling 70-page document online.
he described himself as just an ordinary white man born to a working-class family, but also as a racist, fascist, and nationalist. he said he wanted to target what he called inders to incite violence and spread fear. on his video hshowed an arsenal of weapons in his car, and two days earlier he appeared to have posted images of some of the weapons on sociamedia. he had written names on them, including other people who attacked muslims and historic battles.he aid he was not a member of any organization or under orders, but he did have contact with many nationalist groups. should known about him?ave that question was asked of the new zealand police chief. >> that is a very good question. what i want to tell you right now is that we had -- no agency had any information about these people. 'i can also tell you tha've been in contact with my australian colleagues.
they have no information on them at all a gordon: 8 ne norway was gordon: 8 years ago noay was hit by one of the worst ,ight-wing terror attacks dozens of teenagers shot dead by anders breivik. tarrant claimed it as an inspiration and even to have had brief contact with breivik. he also said he supported the attack on the mosque in london. and on one of the weapons is a reference to the child sex abus scan north of england, leading to questions about c whether ld have any links in the u.k. >> this is an emerging a fast-moving picture, but we will be resolute in pursuing all lines of investigation. if there are any links that need to be pursued, that is what we will do. : there has been growing concern about the rise in extreme right-wing activity here
in the uk over the last tw years. in the last six months, for the first time, the security service mi5 has become involved in investigating it. tarrant said he only recently h as hison christchu target. they authorities in new zealand and others around the world ll now be focusing on this thread n-- threat with a urgency. gordon carrera, bbc news. jane: what more can security oftcials do to protect agai such threats? i sat with jack tomarchio, a former official at the homeland security department. jack, thanks very much for joining me. the suspect says that he was acting on his own. ithe wasn't affiliatedany organization, under no orders. how can law enforcement get better at spotting these lone wolves? jack: well, jane, first of all, i think we're seeing a different paradigm.
instead of looking at lone wolves, we are seeing individuals who are in some way connected to each other, usi the internet, looking at media, social media, as ways to find other fellow travelers, so to eak, who are white supremacists, white nationalists. we saw this individual here whot peted these horrendous attacks in new zealand as taking his inspiration from the 2015 w attack in norwch got 77 people killed. jane: how hard is it for law enforcement to disruse informal networks? tck: it is not an easy ta do that, jane. it is very difficult. it takes investigatory tools, it takes analysts, and it takes people who undstand the motivation of the white supremacist movement. frankly, we don't have a lot of people that really understand that right now because it has been kind of below the radar screen type of movement. yes, there have been plike dylan roof who killed people in charleston, south carolina,
the african-american church. there have been others, but thes have not to the same level concern, international concern, that for example al qaeda has in the past or isis has in the past. on really need to start learning about their motivaabout their ideology, read the amanuals, read their book look for the inspiration to unrstand, just as we understand how international islamic rprrorism was rated. now we need to understand this white supremacist movement, which is sti new to us. jane: how does law enforcement spot the flags? this person posted a lot of things online. jack: that's righ and just like we have seen people who were affiliated with al qaeda or isis posting things online, we now have to start looking at people that are posing these type of manifestoes or diatribes eeds that have a different motivation. on one end of the spectrum youed have the al isis type of
terrorist. now you have the type of terrorist going after muslims. we have whole different set of characters thawe have to start oking at. in the past, law enforcemern would be con about individuals who want to perpetrated the jihad in the united states or the u.k. now we have to look at individuals who want to perpetrate a domestic white supremacist, nationalist-based attack for reasons that are obviously different than jadi. it is going to be moreco licated and cost more money and involve more people and law enforcement assets devoted toun thisom jane: jackchio, thank you very much indeed for joining me. for more on the rise of far-right extremism, im joined by seth jones at the center for strategic and international studies.
why is right-wing extremism and white supremacism in particular on the rise? seth: there are two reasons. one is that there are a few issues fueling it. one of them is iigration. there are particular issues in the u.s. to latin americans and mexicans and others who have come in or perceived to have comer in in larmbers. the other is that in places like europe, syrians, afghans, other foreign immigrants. the second issue is that therenc isasing utilization of social media. it is across the board. it is facebook, it is twitter,ut it is e, applications to communicate with each other. we see much greater connection , virtual connections across countries and continents thaenwe have ever efore. jane: how do you stop that? the prime minister of new
zealand said that distributing distressing material was anre offense, but iity, who polices it? seth: there are two kinds of organizations that keep an eye on it. one is government agenrces, law enfoement and intelligence, and the second is the private sector, the organizations hosting it. they have algorithms identifying it. the challenge for some of the private sector is they had suchu a on islamic extremism and then russian disinformation. now they are being asked to identify words and phrases they can to algorithms for far-right attacks. l can also see ethnonationalistt wing. the possibilities are endless r these kind of organizations. jane: how widespread is it? the president today said it is only a small group of people. se: i think the data is ve disturbing on the rise of right-wing extremism. we saw a doubling of right-wing
terrorist attacks in the.s. just between 2016 and 2017. we have seen a massive increase in the number of right-wing terrorist attacks in europe, cluding in the u.k., not just the attack on finsbury park mosque, but the assassination of jo cox, labor member of. parliame these are part of a global trend in the rise of right-wing extremism. people have to see christchurch not as specific incident isolated, but a much broader trend we are seeing in terms of the rise in attacks in europe, in the u.s., and now in australiand new zealand. jane: are the triggers the same? a lot of people are saying how could this have happened in new zealand of alllaces. seth: the triggers in many ways are similar. immigration appears to be one of several common themes that have run across the n-nazi and the far-right extremist views.
they believe that their countries are being flooded by foreigners, people of different colors, direligions. f they now need ht for their country. jane: seth jones, thanks very much for joining me. seth: tha you. jane: now to some of the day's other news. pen,the flick of his donald trump issued his first presidential veto today. it came after 12 republicans resolution ending the national emergenso on the hern border. but building the wall was mr. trump's key campaign promise and it turned out to be the only way he could get the funds. iby was joineormer u.s. assistant attorney kim wehle a few minutes ago. e.thanks for joining where does this go now? kim: the question will be whether there will be a veto override. it seems like in neither house of congress are there enough of
votes to override a veto. and ornizations challenging the initial declation of national emergency on statutory grounds because of how the president plans to move money around, but the bigger issue is the separation of powers challenge. we have a face-off between the poweof the president and the power of t congress, and it is really quite serious. i think the 12 defectorsn the senate from the republican party, unusualn this particular congress, represent how important th is. jane: so what can they do about that if the president has the power of veto?m: here is already talk of amending the statute itself, because the problem here is with congress. congress passed a statute givins thident the authority toe declnational emergency and did not give a definition of a national emergency. it allowed itself tot, second-guess thich is what happened here. you can say, listen, we don't think this particular declaration is that thing, but didn't de cne it. congre go back and change
the definition so in the future this president and other presidents will not be able to soclare it so easily, but we have these other cases that are going through and it remains to be en whether anybody in congress wou join those cases. but presumably they will continue and the courts will have to rule on thquestion of whether this particular exercise of emergency powers was problematic as separation of powers. we have a congress who said we don't want money going for the wall. lyit is symbolichutting congress out of the conversation and saying, i don't care if you are not going to appropriate the money, i will do it anyway. that is a clash between the appropriations clause and th' presidens power under this statute that gives him the power to declare a national emergency. jane: as well as using his power of vet president trump is tweeting today yet again his displeasure with the russia probe. there are so many investigations going on. whis he focusing on this? kim: that is a great question, because the russia probe t scope of the mandate that rod
rosenstein sigd and gave to robert mueller has to do with the russians interfering in the election. it ds not name mr. trump. a theory it is something every american should caut as a matter of national security. the president himself as commander-in-chief of the executive branch is the fit and foremost person who should be chomping at the bit to findt at mr. mueller determined with respect to what we know from our own nationalen intell and security agencies was an actual attack on our electoral system. it begs the question of whether this president has something to hide, and with 17 ongoing investigations, i think that is a fair question to ask. jane: kim wehle, thanks very much indeed for joining me. kim: my pleasure. jane: a quick look at some of the day's other ne. a senior north korean official said leader kim jong-un is considering breaking off denuclearizaon talks with the u.s. president.
after decades of hostilities, the leaders of the two nations met for the second time in singapore last month. the talks were halted after mr. trump refused to lift nctions unless north korea destroyed its nuclear sites. there have been more protests in algeria today as thousands took to the streets demanding tha the president step down. on monday, he dropped his bid for a fifth term, but canceled the april elections, leading to accusations that he is still trying to prolg his rule. the president is in poor health and rarely se in public. israel has carried out air strikes in gaza in retaliation for the firing of two rockets towards tel aviv. the cket fire, which did not cause damage or injuries, was the first to target the city sinc2014. four people were wounded in the strikes on gaza. israel's military said that the headquarters of the militant group hamas was among the targets. d as a newnle b
neighborhood on new york's west side. it opened to the publicay t and with it, new shops and office buildin. at its core is a 150-foot-tall public landmark called vessel, made up of over a mile of stairs and pathways for people to explore. the b's nada tawfik went to have a look. nada: hudson yards is the most expensive real estate development in u.s. history. set up of active train tracks on the west side, it is altered new york's skyline and transformed acres of city space. the centerpiece of it all is vessel, a honeycomb-like landmark that sits in the league square. >> so often cities build new developments that make them more similar to e erywheree in the world. n how do something that is about as all and something that will engage people and lift up and have another perspective on
your girlfriend, grandmother, children? it is about bringing people together. nada: the developer of hudson yards is betting onma this beina r attraction for new yorkers and tourists. there are plans to host events and concerts year. with 2500 steps, there plenty of space to climb and climb and climb some more. it is quite a workout, and for those who just want to relax and ta in the view, that is fine, too. it is unique backdrop for th perfect selfie. each intricate steel piece was manufactured 4000 miles away in italy and shipped to the hudson river the first section is the ground in aprilby 2017. that december, all 154 interconnecting flights of stairs were inlace. vessel is a temporary name, and the public has been asked to choose a pernent one. it already has a few nicknames,
like stairmaer, beehive, and stairway to nowhere. leave it to skeptical new yorkers to come up with all kinds of suggestions, but they may not all be polite. nada tawfik, bbc news, new york. jane: nothing stays the same in new york for long. before we go, here is the latest on the situation in christchurch. new zealand's prime minister has wethat her countries -- her countries unles -- her countries gun laws will change following the attacks on two mosques. -- jacinda ader has confirmed that the suspect is an austrian citizen. as we have been discussing, the suspect left a right-wing manifesto about why he planned ymd live-streamed the attack. an outpouring ofthy for the victims has come from around the world. remember, you can find on all the day's news on our website, and to see what we are teing at any time, to please
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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. m judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: terror in new zealand.e 49 people lled in shootings at two mosques... one of the darkest dtrs in that cos history. then, mark shields andthavid brooks odangers of hate spch to spark violence. plus, a photographer on a mission to capture the past, documenting the often-overlooked places of the underground railroad. >> it's about the history of people who were enged in a process and a project of self liberation. i want to remind people about that because i think it resonates even today, globally. >> woodruff: all that and more, on tonight's pbs newshour.