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♪ pp[auslae] >> and now, "bbc world news." laura: this is "bbc worldews america. reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. in the netherlands, a maunt ands with the arrest o turkish man. police say he killed three people on a tram. the question is why. new zealand's prime minister says gun reforms are on the way after thee. massacre at a mosqu plus, pulling in the cash.ro beto o'urke raises $6 million in 24 hours for his presidential run. how is he going down on the campaign trail?
welcome to our viewers on public television here in the u.s. and also aroundhe globe. authorities in the netherlands have arrested a 37-year-old turkish man after he opened fire on a tram, kilng two people -- killing at least people and three wounding five others. the attack led to a seven-hour manhunt in the city of utrecht and the terror alert was raised to its highest level. the dutch prime minister has not ruled out terrorism, but some others say family issues may have motivated the killings. htfrom utr, the bbc's damian grammaticas has more. a tram late morning, line at a standstill and dutch medics scrabbling. the reports were of multiple casualties. armed police units responded fast, too. they moved in as well, hunting waat least one attacker wh thought was still nearby. dan was in the tram.
he says all of a sudden the shooter came running, waving a pistol in the air. "i thought i have to get out of here." eyewitnesses sd this morning on the tram, the man pulled a gun and began shooting. there was panic as people tried to escape the scene. within minutes, police and and -- ambulances were here. it is thought he fled around tho er. now police have a house surrounded in one of the adjacent streets. this man was getting ready to catch the tram itself when it all happened. g, i heard a lot of scream and a lot of honks from the cars. all of a sudden, sirens. burglar is loose." damian: soon several city blocks in utrecht had been sealed. police issued this picture of the suspected attacker, gokmen
tanis37 years old and originally from turkey. as they tried to trackth him, ordered people in the area to stay indoors. offices, schools, and universities all in lockdown. "this has been a jolt for ourtr co" the dutch prime minister said. adding, "we are horrified and in dielief." laten the afternoon, the suspect gokmen tanis was detained. the police siege at an end, but the sense of shock still the. -- still deep. damian grammaticas, bbc news. laura: for more on the netherlands and current affairs over extremism, i spoke earlier with bruce hoffman of the council on foreign relations. bruchoffman, the dutch authorities have arrested the suspect in thiattack, and although they are saying it could be terrorism-related, they
say could be some family what do you make of the incident? bruce: it is not mutually exclusive. you have people often in the aftermath of a high-profile tragedy, such as the one that unfolded in new zealand last onfriday, deciding to posi themselves in the limelight and position themselves as a figure and might act on something -- some personal impulse, but try to frame it in a wider political contex laura: interesting. whether it is the tram in the netherlands or mosque zealand, these are classically soft targets. how can authorities protect them in this age of apparently random extremism? bruce: this is the problem, that you are talking about indivials who may be inspired by an ideology, have no connection to an organization, and by default have no training. efthe they have to pick the most publicly accessible type of target, and they are drawn to places of worship, trams, movie theaters, schools, places with large gatherings of people were
an act of violence will elicit outrage and horror and elevate the person's importance in that their own mind. laur you have studied the growth of extremism for many years. what can y tell us about the growth of right-wing extremism, particularly in the wake of the new zealand attack? bruce: far-right extremism when turned into violenceas often been spasmodic, and therefore we tend not to follow it as closely or historically pay as much attention to it as we have to left-wing terrorism, which t was prevalent 1970's and 1980's, or was recently the terrorism from alda qr isis. what is interesting is that the extreme right has pioneered many of the techniques we see commonplace in terrorism today. it is why it has to be taken seriously. they were the first to use omcomputers tonicate and often they pioneered lone wolf attacks. on that point abo computers, the new zealand
attack seem almost made for the internet. how can authorities counter the appeal of the internet to extremists? bruce: depriving individuals of the platforms they seek. he recorded videos and made statements that he hoped would be publicized, bause of the power of social media. certainly, depriving tse individuals of those opportunities is one of the solutions. it won't address the root causes of what is drivi them to commit this violence. publicity is one aspect. thelerance and rage a main things. laura: the opposite of intolerance is toleran. is it the values of the open society -- do you find them effective in targeting what we extremism, whether it is in the netherlands and new zealand? bruce: they are effective in that these are infrequent occurrences. but we also see vulnerability of
open society.au their open b of the access they provide to people, not just where they might go or whatever reblic transportation they might use, but for the eion of their ideas. that i think is the fundamental challenge, where is that line betwn extremist beliefs that have the risk of morphing into violence or transformed into violence and what are just the rights of expression? laura: bruce hoffman, thanks so much for that analysis. bruce: you are very welcome. laura: we were just discussing those attacks in new zealand, and the country's prime minister plans to announce new gun while forms in coming days. jacinda ardern has backed the changes in principle. the suspect used military-style s modified to make them more deadly. under current law, they are not tually illegal. new zealanders are coming to grips with the tragedyfias hywel gr reports. hywel: shot while saving her disabled husband. a three-year-old remembered for his smile. and a high-school stude at the
mosque with his mother and friends. it is the stories of the victims and not the gunman that new zealand wants the world to hear. it faces the question of whether they were failed. he would have been at the mosque if he hadn't overslept, and his housemate wasre tone of 20 friends he lost as the gunman kept on shooting. >> women and children have died. ry cowardly acts. we are coping the best we can. if anything, this will bring us a lot more closer. we still have our faith, which he can never take away from us. hywel: within hours of friday's terror attack, new zealand's government pledged to gun controls. the suspect, brenton tarrant, hafive weapons. two of them semi-automatic s. after the 1996 port arthur massacre, australia banned
semiautomatic weapons and held national amnesty. new zealand may follow. the prime minister says measures veeen agreed in principle. prime min. ardern: when australia found itself tagically in a similar position to where we are noy took 12 days to make the decision. we have taken 72 hours. there is still some detail that needs to be worked through. i want to do that, but still move as quickly as we can. hywel: just as in australia, just as in america, taken a terrifying violent act to wsovoke a debate on new zealand's gun but just as in the other countries, there is a powerful gun lobby likely to resist chge. the christchurch gunman bought 50 firearms online within four months from th company. the store in the city remains open, and the ner defiant. >> he was a brand-new purchaser with a brand-new lense.
it was an ordinary sale. hywel: while he was keen to go before the cameras, he would not answer our questions on sarestricting gus. >> i totally agree there should be a gun debate, but today's not the day. please respect me on this. i am going to leave if these are the only questions you have. hywel: on wednesday, a mass funeral will take place for the victims. families have been desperate to arrange burials in line with islamic custom. the need to honor the dead, to cherish the memory, is what now sustains this place. hywel griffith, bbc news, christchurch. laura: for the latest from chstchurch, i spoke earlier with the bbc's sharanjit leyl, who is there for us. what is the mood as people prepare for the first funerals later in the week?sh anjit: the mood is, of
coarse, as you can imagine, somber. i'm here at the botanical gardens, one of the largest memorial sites that have sprung up in the last few days since the attack. there arhundreds of floral tributes behind us. we continue to see people coming to show their respect. we heard a japanese school two on exchange two wes from japan -- a whole group of students came over and sang a song and paid tribute and left a lovely card showing that we are all one, images showing them holding hands. children of all colors. ofall his is having a huge residents christchurch. we have seen hakas performed. there has been a real outpouring of grief, shock, and also solidarity with the muslim community. that continues to happen. as for the burials, this isy crucial -- m the loved ones have been waiting patiently
to have family members back. of course, it is part of muslim tradition that burials should happen as quickly as possible. new zealand authorities have been trying to reassure them to be patient. this is still an active criminal scene. they are still having to identify the bodies, according to the coroner, making sure that the steps are tan before the burials can take place. as far as we know come as some 50 graves have been preparation for the bodies to be returned to the loved ones, who are eager to move on and try to achieve closure, if that is possible to do from this horrific act. laura: sharanjit leyl, thank you so much for joining us. , as brexit drama tonight the speaker of the house of commons tells the prime minisr that mps cannot be asked to vote on the brexit deal for a thd
time unless it changes. precedentw cited ck to the 17th century for his case. laura kuenssberg has more on the -- on theising events basis of rising events. day's surprising 'vents. laura k.: time 't healing, it is hurting. every day it seems that theresa may's task gets harder and harder.e arriving at ck to gates of number 10 today, she planned to have another go at getting her deal through, not knowing what the speaker had up the sleev of his black gowns. >> order. i wish to make a statement to the house. laura k.: john bercow has the ultimate power in pant, and as it stands, he says the government cannot try again. mr. bercow: what the government cannot legitimately do is re-submit to the house the same proposition, or substantially the same proposition, as that of
last week, which was rejected by 149 votes. laura k.: in other words, the government should forget it, he says, if they think they can just keep asking mp's to vote again and again on the brexital because it has been lost twice before. >> order. ars indeed, point of order. laura k.: you can he surpriseand see government frontbenchers jumping up to push back. >> we are in a major constitutional crisis, political crisis we want to solve for the country. the prime minister is doing everything she can to break that impasse. the chair's ruling is the chair's ruling, and it is binding, but ihink we ask the -- but i simply ask the question, what can parliament do to end the uncertainty? laura k.: the speaker's many detractors suggest he is using his power far too aggressively.
stopping parliament having another say on brexit. but his fans argue he is doing the right thing. strangely, the move has united and remainers who both want to stop the prime minister's deal. them not what is the point of having yet another week -- >> what is the point of having another week plowinthrough on another agreement that will not go through? all these european deals happen at the last minute. 11 dayto go, something interesting has come out of this. >> she cannot just keep ogging the same dead horse, and she has been doing that for ages. let's maybe get on a different horse. laura k.: there is anger, though, too. >> i think what willappen out, occur, brell not and the people of britain, both of those who voted for leave,bu also remainers, would like to see democracy done, there would be furious with not being allowed to be heard in the house of commons. laura k.: those holed up in number 10 trying to get the deal over the line had no idea this was coming.
the mood turned sour. >> for me, treating colleagues with courtesy and respect is at the forefront of the reform, and any haeaker's counsel woul to have that path and i'm not confident that would be the >> well -- that would be the case. >> well, so be it. i treat the house with respect. laura k.: respect? there's not much of that around. the cabinet minister told me the government would have to find its way around the decision, but none of this has been done before. there is no map, no easy route out. laura: that was laura kuenssberg reporting on the complex and .convoluted brexit sa you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, beto's fundraising bonanza. how the democratic candidate is breaking records for campaign donations.
the president of mozambique says the death toll from cyclone idai could be more than 1000. 84 people have been confirmed dead so far, and the scale of the disast h wase. mozambique is one of the countries affected. reporter: the journey has ended lyabrupt you can see the devastation of cyone idai left a major crater here. this is one of the main exit teamsr, where the su and the supplies are have been cut off. many people say they have never seen anything like this. reached a newhas level. we have very small bridges that survived previous clones. but this is the biggest and the worst. >> the wind blew softly, but
then it started to rain. the rains continued through the weekend and always stopped today. reporter: many more roads and bridges are ahead in worse co yition. it giv a sense of the challenges. >> we had two helicopters from the air force trying to get in. very difficult to go through. i have a feeling it is beginning to clear. e hopefully they will be a get in by air. by road right now very difficult. reporter the country is already strus,ling from economic crisi and even before, 5 million were in need of foodid. this only exacbates the situation, and as the day comes there are end, hundreds of zimbabwean are in desperate need of food and
water, trapped with of the dead and the injured. isra: beto o'rourke tracting attention and money. $6.1ised a whopping million after announcing his run for president. the former texas congressman joins a crowded field for the democrats and has become a popular target for republicans. for more, i spoke earlier with the bbc's anthony zurcher. anthony, you were just in iowa and you saw beto o'rourke in action. what is making people give him alththis money? y: i also saw him on the campaign trail in the senate race in texas last year, and the beto from 2018 is the same guy running for president now. very comfortable manner, very
casualhethe tablehe counters oes to speak to the masses. he uses very high-minded language very positive, talking about unity and everybody coming together. vague on policy details, but hei is a chaatic guy and knows how to connect. some candidates have it, some nd he is a natural speaking in a language people can connect to. laura: is this why republicans used to st. patrick's day to attack him and his printing and driving record -- drinking and driving record? anthony: they would not send out a tweet like that wi leprechaun hat on if they thought he wasn't a threat. that is sething came up during the senate campaign and he tries ivto and say he made mistakes, i have learned from them and not only that, but i was able to not have them ruin my life because i was a white male and i have these privileg and i had money and it has given me appreciation for the flaws of the criminal justice knowing that there are people with lesser means and from minority backgrounds who would not have the opportunities.
same thing he isai using to exthe controversial writings he had as a teenager. he is trying to learn from his mistakes. he's not apologizing -- well, he is apologizing but he is trying to learn from them. laura: looming over is the shadow of joe biden and if he ters the race. what could that due to the dynamic? anthony: joe biden is universally popular within the democratic party. he would insntly become the front runner. i was talking to an old iowa hand a couple of days ago and he said that the flaws bin had in his presidential campaign in 2008 were a lack of money and lackga of zation. he will not have those problems this time. he is wistful, looking back on the obama years fondly, and he could capitalize on that. if he can keep up the pace.
a grueling campaign that will go on for a year before people start voting. laura: anthony zurcher, thanks so much for that. anthony: my pleasure. laura: turning back to the tragedy in new zealand, people have been remembering the lives lost. there is also a focus on the children, and young new zealanders are gathering to see how they can help their communities, as clive myrick reports. clive: this memorial shouts it when youee. 50 pairs -- shouts its poignan cy. 50 pairs of white shoes f the 50 people who died. among thliemle children. as so many reflect on the tragedy, lost in a whirl of painful thoughts, it is sobered to remember that the killer did not see human beings in the mosques, he saw targets, and
children were fair game. the tributes across christchurch reflect that abomination. five parish who were under the age of 60, including--under the age of 16, including a three-year-old and a four-year-old, given no chance in life. was 14. now at peace, says his father, and mourned by one of his best friends. >>n e morning the news was confirmed, and i was devastated. it was awful. nohe was by so many people and love by so many people. it is so sad that this has been brought down by the shooting. it's just -- i don't know what say, really. clive: no one knows what to say. but a 17-year-old says it is important that young people have a voice in helping the
community. >> my school has been majorly affected. many students have lost loved inones. just msure that they know that the school is behind them. that involved and the events i have led shows that hatred cannot drive out hatred. lylove can. fruit of hiss the labor, organizing a huge vigil, an oppor to celebrate life.ple amazing how we all ga .ogether there was a really good thing. clive: local schools have counselors on hand to help traumatized children after the calamity, recognition that no one should have to walk through gates of grief and sorrow, especially the young. yriea: five miry --li m
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