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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, newan zeald reflects on what could have been done to prevent the massacre at the mosques amid calls to change gun la future mass shootings. then, new details on the ethiopian airplane crash raise new questions about how federalu tors approved the boeing 737 max.ll plus, a of bias-- we ex country music and why female voices increasingly are not heard on the radio. >> i walked into a couple of major labels and had te m look me in e and say, "we can't sign another girl right now, we already have one." >> woouff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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that word came today after friday's terror at two mosques in christchurch, with 50 people killed. meanwhile, president trump complained that news reports are unfairly blaming him for the attack. the accused gunman referred to him as "a symbol of renewed white identity." 'll look at all of this, after the news summary. a gunman in the netherlands today killed three people and wounded five on a streetcar in utrecht. a 37-year-old man from turkeyrs was arrested hater. forensic teams and bomb-sniffing dogs searched the scene after the attack. the dutch justice minister said it is still unclear what sparked the shooting. >> we re able to very soon spot him, to also connect him through a runaway car in which he had fled from the place of the assault.
so we have now arrested him. we do not know ayet as to what his motives are. we do not exclude any type of motive. >> woodruff: the justice minister said the suspect has a criminal record and was known to dutch authorities before today. a tropical cyclone that smashed into southern africa has killed more than 200 people, and the president of mozambique says the toll could hit 1,000. the storm surged down the mozambique channel last week, tearing through that country's coast and into zimbabwe and malawi. officials say 90% of the mozambique port city of beira was damaged or destroyed. the storm wrecked homes and flooded swaths of land. in indonesia, days of torrential downpours have caused deadly flooding and mudslides, killinga more80 people. the flooding, in a mountainouspa region of a province, covered roads with mud and debris and has made re efforts more difficult.
meanwhile, an earthqaused a landslide early today. it killed three people and damagehundreds of homes. across the u. midwest, heavy in and snowmelt have sent rivers over vees, submerging farms and whole neighborhoods in several states. william brangham as our report. >> brangham: in peru, nebraska, national guard trucks bring a lifeline: bottled water. volunteers unload the water after flooding from the missouri river shut dowthe town's water treatment plant. fred knapp of nebraska pbs station net was in peru. n down here, there are about 10 houses that have booded by the missouri river after a levee broke north of here. >> brangham: across the state, roads, livestock and hundreds of homes have been swalby floodwaters. >> it is devastating. it is devastating. ve brangham: flooding began last week after a massiate-winter storm hit. water levels rose through the
weekend, hitting those who live along the missouri rhe hardest. >> it's about as bad as it gets, you know we're startin. >> brangham: lisa lemus, from sarpy county, is one of hundreds who had to evacuate when waterso d her home. >> there is no words that canbe descomebody's mental state when all this comes down. >> brangham: rescuers in airboats came to save those who couldn't escape in time. across the midwest, flers brought record river levels to 41 places, including 17 spots in nebraska. the water reached seven feet in some areas. onhe eastern side of the missouri river, nearly 2,000 people have been evacua.ed across iow floodwaters destroyed roads, including part of this bridge in uncil bluffs. overflow from the rock river in illinois has inundated communities along its banks. and it could still get worse. rain is in the forecast for tuesday and the missouri river is expected to reach its highest
level on thursday. for the pbs newshour, i'm william brangham. >> woodruff: there is more today, on the ethiopian airlines crash that killed 157 people. french investigators are helpin recover ane's "black box" data. today, they reported clear similarities between that crash and one in indonesia last october. ethiopia's transport minister said much the same on sunday. both crashes involved the boeing 737-max. we'll focus on how the new plane won regulatory approval, later in the program. british prime minister theresaff may ed a new setback today in her bid to push a brexit plan through parliament. the housdeof commons has ated the plan twice, but may wants a third vote this week. aday, though, the speaker of the house ruled th centuries-old rule bars another vote, unless the proposal is "substantially" differengo >> what thrnment cannot
legitimately do is to resubmit to the house the same proposition or substantially the same proposition as that of last week which was rejected by 149 votes. >> woodruff: britain is now set to leave the european on march 29th, with or without a deal, unless the e.u. grants a delay. the u.s. supreme court was back in action today. the justices rejected an appeal from a bed-and-brefast in hawaii that denied a room to a lesbian couple. they agreed to review a criminal conviction in louisiana. it was decided by a jury that was not unanimous, but the state has since changed itsti consti to mandate unanimous verdicts. on wall street today, w jones industrial average gained 65 points to close at 25,914. p e nasdaq rose almost 26 points, and the 0 added 10. and, noted economist akrn
ger has died. he was a top treasury department official and chair of the council of economic advisers under president obama.fo and after those positions, he taught at princeton university. hhis groundbreaking resea ranged from economic inequality to the economic effect 5ioid addiction. alan krueger was8 years old. still to comon the newshour: how the massacre in new zealand highlights conrns of hate spread bsocial media. questions over how the bingpr 737 max got apoved to fly. breaking down president trump's latest twitter storm, and much more. >> woodruff: we return to our top story, the aftermath of
friday's terror attack on mosques in christchurch, new zealand. as that nation reels from the massacre, and the true scope of the horror comes into focus, public anger is being directed not only at the gunman and his racist ideology, but at social media companies whose platforms are used to traffic such hate. john ray of independent television news is in christchurch and begins ourco verage. >> reporter: it is the way only new zealand shows its strength,a against dversary that violat everything they hold dear. some who were school children. their short lives symbolized by candles. and celebrated in song by their classmes. there are womewho mourn both children and husbands.ed naim rasheied as he was
trying to overpower the gunman, and his son ta, who shieleded another wounded worshipper. >> the person was trying to mo and he said in his ears "don't move, stay, stay still." he wanted to save him. >> he was 21, he was an innocent soul. >> reporter: it's now known that the prime suspect bought four of his fiveeapons online from new zealand's biggest gun supplier. the government promises to reveal tougher rules within ten days. buin a bad tempered news conference... do you not feel any sense of responsibility at all? >> i think you're asking the same question, someone else? >> reporter: ...the store's boss wouldn't talk about gun controli ad my grandson come to me, "grand dad, why do people think the guns are the problem?" the guy was crazy.
>> reporter: the failure of the intelligence services to track far-right terrorism, tse of social media to spread hate, there are many seeking answers. and not just in christ. of the victims named so far, the youngest is three, the oldest in their 70s. they came from 19 separate nations. so this is a camity for newt zealand, but iaches across many borders. and then there are the questions they never thought they'd k. ala wonders how to break the unbearable news to the three young children of his friend hazama. >> we will be strong and we will get through this, but for his kids i don't know how somebody can explain to them why their father is not around. >> reporter: as night falls, another vigil begins. eslittle light, in the darkness. >> woodruff: many ons have
been raised about how graphic videos of the attack werposted and allowed to spread quickly on youtube, facebook and other social media platforms. the companies said they tried to stop it but faced big challenges facebook said it removed 1.5 million videos depicting imagesm he shooting in the first 24 hours after it happened.re han a million of those were blocked as they were transferred to social media. youtube had its own war room- edke response center. but it, too, strugo stop the posting in the minutes after the attack. reporter elizabeth dwoskin took anclose look at how youtub others tried to combat this. she's the silicon valley correspondhit for the "wton post" and joins us from san francisco. elizabeth dwoskin, welcome to the "newshour". so i think my first question is, as thi shooter, this gunman, decided he was going to use his gmera as he bean this terrible massacre, was there anything in social media totop him?
>> that's a great bit. it fee like the 10,000-foot question and it's a great question. uld say the social media companies, often they say, another day, another failure. this is oppornity first murder that's been streamed live on facebook or uploaded on to youtube, but it was the one most designed to go viral because the shooter was live streaming himself whi appearing to niche online communities that aggressively reposted it and reposrmd different tions of it, cutting it in half, cutting the length and even turning it into a video game. even after russian meddling and the tech companies sayingtt they're g millions of dollars of resources into fighting these problems, many couldn't take down the viral content for 24 hours. >> woodruff: i know you spent time talking to yowbtd, how did wey first see what was going on? l, they knew right away on thursday night u.s. time that,
you know, that a video had been upaded because, again, it was streamed live on facebook and then middle east people o hmm n. and other sites started take copies of the facebook video and uploading it like crazy on to youtube. so they already knew this was going to be a problem. what's wild is even though it was an all-systems i go effort, by txt neorning, they're realizing this stuff is still up and sily findable. so what they actually chose to do, and it doesn't say great thin about where the situation, is they basically hit a panic button a chose to does able mhfeatures of youtube and made a huge decision they never made before to suspend the use of human moderates. usually the content goes through a.i. and a moderator makhese decision. they realized humans are too chloe slow and will make a.i. make the decision.t they would rher err on the side of wrong and have less
video. that was a stop-gap measure. >> woodruff: a.i. moderated, did they find that worked better? >> after 24 hours after disabling core features of their site -- this is the biggest video site in the world and you ftve core features disabled to this moment -- they did that, they were able to contain it. but u have to acknowledge that's not a long-term solution and not the first time they'vee toldr another journalist there was a crisis and some unprecedented element of the crisis made itard tonight's pate. if you remember the par massacre, the students were called crisis actors, and the videos wrote to the top of youtube and that was another thing where they said well we couldn't have anticipated that. >> woodruff: is youtube andok faceare they saying they weren't aware that the video nyuld be changed into different forms and shared in many different ways? it's not as if they didn't know
this could happen, is it? >> they know, and, remember, they deal with copyrighted videos, they deal with i.s.i.s. videos all the time where people use similar tactics. the difference is with i.s.i.s. recruiting videos and copyrights, they have prerecord files to have the videos, so they can teach their technology to understand any sniet of it at upload. but when you have a new video technology that someone hassen't before, with new variations coming all the time, it trips e system up. but you're saying can't you anticipate a totally new video might go viral, might be put on your web site in different waysu and thathould try to teach the technology to anticipate that? i think thsad truth is technology isn't there, which then raises the question of can the platforms actually police themselves at all. >> well, and, of course, all this raises thest quen, do these social media platforms, do they see their responsibility as
stopping this kind of material from being spread? >> they'd say yes, but the reality is that that's where they fail. they also will tell you that it will never not be posted becau they have a system where there's not prior review. anyone can post and it only geta revieweder, if it gets reviewed. as long as you have that sirnlingyou're going to acce that some of this stuff goes up ead.gets spr then let's add to this their responsibility. oit's not just like thetent goes up and anyone sees it. youtube and facebook, they have highly personalized algorithms where the content is designed to be turbo charged. when people click on it, they start recommending it. soreheaking a lot of editorial, territorial actions that actually promote content to people who didn't even ask for it. ond, so, they have a huge role. i that you coulday to a former director at youtube who said that he himtself was sunned by the level of irresponsibility of thosdesign choices.
>> woodruff: quickly, it sounds as if you're saying if e something like this we happen next week that the same thing could happen again, theat it wpread that quickly. >> i think the companies couldn't say no to that. >> woodruff: well, that'sdi urbing and something for all of us to reflect on. elizabeth dwoskin with the the washington "post," we thank you. >> woodruff: investigators are still trying to figure out what caused the ethiopian airlines crash that led to the grounding of the boeing 737 max. as john yang reports, questions are now being raised about how the federal government approved rse plane's safety in the place. >> yang: judy, the "seattle times" reports when the f.a.a.
approved the jetliner in 2015, the agency delegated key safety assessments to boeing itself. the newspaper said that included an assessment of the automated anti-stall system that's a leading suspect in two crashes in the span of five months. in addition, the "wall street journal" reports that both the transportation department and federal prosecutors are looking into the approval process.is toss this, we are joined by jeff wise, a science writer who specializes in aviation and. psycholo he's author of "the taking of mh 370" on the malaysia airlines flight that vanished in 2014. he's also a licensed pilot. boeingnd the f.a.a. declined our invitations. a lot of discussioonabout automa this was an automated system that they added to this model of the aircraft. it was one of the systems that the seattle "times" reports the f.a.a. let boeing decide on the
safety aseptember you've written a lot about auto medication and auto pilot. what does the increased use of auto medication in flying mean rnd is it a good, bad thing, and what does it say f the need for training? >> well, you know, that's a great question. broadly speaking, auto medication is a really good thing for aviation safety. what you can do is tke the more mundane tasks of flying, thing a pilot would otherwise have to do, monitoring things and nkeeping check on things, can focus on the more important, creative things, if situations are arising. let the computer deal with the more mundane stuff. so that's really been a major factor and a tremendous increas in aviatfety over the last few decades. on the other hand, we can't get too complacent. there are situations, as flying becomes more and more safe, the number of indents becomes less and less, and you get into this situation where onlthese sort of really sort of corner of the
envelope situations do multipl problems arise simultaneously. you might have an inexperienced pilot on a day with bad weather, a mehchanical problemat happens at the same time, and the system gets overlead, the auto medicdlion can't hanit and either fails or turns itself off and dumps everything oto the pilot, oftentimes in a situation where the pilot is highly stressed, might be inexperienced, and, so, the weak points of auto medication and human benings overlapd there's e. one to catch the falling baby, as it wer >> yang: when you talk about the inexperienced plot, it is said boeing wanted to be able to say to customers, you don't need to retrain your pilots because they wanted it to be cost effective, they nted it to be a fast changeover for thighs these airlines. reis is something, though, they should have prethe pilots that if something goes wrong while they're flying on auto pilot, they would have been
prepared to handle? theye saying their attitud after the indonesia crash was, owell, a pilot should how to handle this. >> right. so the context of all thisis happeninoeing gets a big chunk of its profits from the most popular airplane builds, the 737, it's been building them since 1967. it's a whole different era. over half a century, they have been building these planes.re it's a creaof that age. aluminum, hydraulics instead of fly by wire like modern planes have, so they have been ssively been trying to improve it to try to stretch out its life span and, you know, the argument that many are making is, look, they've just tried tos stretch hing out too long. they've basically tried to add these new fuel-efficient engines on to an aging air frame. the plane wasn't designed for this kind of engine. they had to sacrifice flight characteristics to get it to work. because it had these arego mic problems and a
disturbing tendey to pitch up in certain circumstances, they had a patch of automation software that would kick in when the corner of the flight envelope got bad, they'd paste this on it and this thing would take over. but as i wasalking about, auto medication can act in sometimes surprising ways, and as part of the effort to keep the 737 fleet going, they wanted to be able to tell to customers, hey, listen, you can buy this,ist going to have the same commonality of parts with the rest of the 737 family, it's going to flthis thing, you don't have to buy a bunch of new parts i like if we had to build a new plane, you don't have to retrain the pilots, just treat it like an old 737, just keep using. that turned out to be a disastrously badis decn because as we saw in lion air and probly ethiopian airlines, you do need training, and i
think they're going to come back there this grounding and definitely goinlt have teaching pilots, look, this situation could arise, you're not going to see it another model, and this is what you have to . do it's not that complicated. but, again, the situations wherr human beings worst is the kind of situation where the automation turns itself off or fails and you're thrown in this novel situation where you're asking a pilot to figure something out that he doesn't know what this auo mated sytem is doing and that's where it falls apart. >> jeff wise, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: stay with us, coming up on the newshour:mo wh womens' voices are not heard on country music radio. and a brie
on getting a second chance. what do neral motors, john mccain, fox news and saturday night live have in common? they've all been targets ofum president s tweets in the past few days. the president is usually a prolific tweeter, but weekend was unusual even by his standards. he posted 30 times on twitter on sunday alone. white house correspondent yamiche alcindor is here to walk through it. is getting so much attention sitcoms on the heels of the teible massacre in new zealand. there's a connection, turns out. >> t. has been on a tweet storm and his mood is anbery, he'en venting on twitter, telling his0 illion followers on twitter he's a victim of all sorts of conspiracies. the mood started friday when the president had an exchange in thl ffice, got backlash for it. let's watch what happened. >> you see today white
nationalistism is a rising threat around the world? >> i don't really. i think it's a small group of ryople that have very, ve serious problems. i guess if you look at what happened in new zealand, perhap. that's the ca i don't know enough about it yet. they're just learning about the person and te e peovolved. but it's certainly a terrible thing. rrible thing. >> there are a lot of people who think the president missed an opportunity to really condemn white nationalism and point out there are te groups rising in numbers
in this country. a tweet he folloed out, th fake news media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in new zealand. they will have to work very hard torove that one. so ridiculous. what the president is saying is, even thoh this person in new zealand said the president was a symbol ofed renhite identity, i don't want anything to do with him and the media is tryi to create the story. but the facts don't barb out what president trump said in the oval offic the organization, new york-basei
efamation league say hate crimes and white supremacist propaganda is on the rise and tripled from 2017. the southern poverty law center say there are more hate crimes in the united states than in the last ten years and a lot of the groups are white nationalist. the president saying this is a small group, is wrong here. >> woodruff: the white house has been worried, be concerned about the coming results of the mueller investigation, but the president used that over the weekend to go after and atack the late senator john mccain. what did he sa and what was that about? >> i want to again read another tweet to you. this tweet was from sunday. it says, it was indeed just oven in court papers, last in his class aapolis john mcc who sent the fake dossier to the s.c.i. and media hping to have itprinted printed before the election, he and the dems worked together failed as usual.
even the fake news refused this garbage. the president was talking about a fox news segment, ken sta was former independent counsel c when presideinton was investigated, they were doing a story on that and the president was tweeting what he watched on fox news. john mccain dade in august and the president continued to attack him. megan mccaiand others found it to be tasteless. it's also important to note that the president is in some was saying the russia probe was started by this dossier. not true. george papadopoulos, a young advisor to the trump capaign, was bragging about russia having evidence and dt again hillary clinton to an australian diplomat, and that diplomat toed ited states you need to look a into that and that's how the russia probe started so the president has been mislead thrismght in a completely difrent vain, it's not just big names the i'm is going. a he's gone after aca lunion leader. what's that about? is it some connection to
manufacturing jobs? >> the
tweet sunday, he tweeted, democrat uaw local 112 president david grown ought to get his together and produce g.m. let our country down buct muh better car companies are coming into the united states in droves. i want action on board. stop complaining and get the job done. here again was the president tweeting about a segment thatn appearedx news just minutes before he put this tweet e segmentnews did t about he might have trouble being elected in the industrial redwest. they w also pointing out the president came to youngstown ohio and said don't sell your gcar, everything will od. in fact, everything the is not going ll there. lordstown's plant is close,op losing jobs and the president is feeling the heevment the union leader said he sent president trump two letters trying to work with himg t this g.m. factory still open and to keep it operational, and he never heard back.
so it's unclear whether or not that plant will be closed for go, but it's clear the president is misleading. >> woodruff: covering a lot of ground with these tweeghts, yamiche alcindor. thank you. >> thanks. >> woodruff: the 2020 presidential field keeps on growing and many of the candidates showed up in key primary states this weekend to make their case. lisa desjardins reports. >> thank you nevada!! >> desjardins: from nevada, to iowa, to tennessee, democratic candidates have been criss- crossing the nation in the hopes of breaking through ancr insingly crowded field. new york senator kirsten gillibrand officially enteredth the 2020 race is weekend, with a campaign video that takes onal income iney,
discrimination and government corruption, and pivots off the star-spangled bannou's question the home of the brave. >> wl brave win? well ihasn't always, it and it isn't right now. >> desjardins: meanwhile, former texas congressman beto o'rourke, near detroit, chigan this morning, announced an e- popping $6.1 milli raised online, in a single day last week. >> i think this is a great sn that in the first 24 hours this many people were able to come together. that's more than vermont senator bernie sanders, who pulled in $5.9 million in hifirst day this year. o'rourke, has not yet said how many individual donors had contributed. the issue for joe biden this weekend was what he did say, saturday in delaware the former vice president, and not-yet- official candidate seemed to accidentally say he was in the presidential race. ruhave the most progressive
record of anyboding for the united... anybody who would run. >> desjardins: president trump took note, tweeting this morning that biden got "tongue tied." for his part, mr. trump will campaign in michigan at the end of the month in an effort to hang onto a state that was part of his 2016 win, and where his approval rating has since lagged for the pbs newshour, i'm lisa desjardins. >> woodruff: and that brings us to politics monday. b i'm joinour regular duo amy walter of the "cook political report" and host of ics with amy walter" on wnyc radio. and tamara keith of npr. she co-hosts the "npr podcast." hello to both of you. >> helto. so it's bime he was out, tam, on the trail, as we just saw, raising 6.1 million in the first 24 hours. has that become the new measurement as tother you will make it as a candidate? >> it definitely sends an early signal about your strength and
potential gras ssroergy. what beto o'rourke did that was ermaet didn't announce it saturday or sunday, he announced it on monday, whic is when peoe paying more attention to the news, so he got a bigger, better newcs cyle. what he showed over the ekend -- i mean, he had some stumbles, but the stumbles were also part of his somewhat remarkable ability to get attention in a way that some of the other candidates haven't en able to. he did this when he was running for senate in texas. he is able, somehow, to get people to pay attention to what he's doing and talk about them. even back whesn he was julike on his weird vision quest when driving across ameri and blogging between the campaign, people are wondering, right, ise the m we saw in 2018, can he re-cr ttehat? and one of the phenomenal things
he didn 2018 is raids $80 million. that is -- >> woodruff: for a senate race -- >> it's an unbelievable amount. to have $6.1 million. what he's dsaefiniteling, as tam pointed out, it's still there. it didn't go away because i left texas or the senate race. i still e this core group of people who support me and are willing to write me these checks and you better get ready for more of this tentially to come. the thing that will really be tested in the next few weks is his durability on the trail. he was tested in texa rn against ted cruz, a lot of international attention. this reminds me of the obama campaign wen he first started his campaign. the same criticism is leveled on quesleveled, beto came to obama. he doesn't have much experie obama won a senate race.
but that was the only exp hience bod. they don't have real depth of experience legislatively. can they last in a field th has a lot of really experienced people? >> woodruff: and obamaov came those questions, but, as you say, there are a number of them. tam, you metioned missteps. he made a comment about his wife and children that didn't go oer so well in some quarters. >> yeah, he made this joke a few timeaand relized maybe he should stop making this joke, something to the effecthat i help my wife sometimes -- well, she is raising the children. and, you know, one to have the questions that feale candidates get a lot is how do you do it? how you going to do this? at about your kids? and beto o'rourke has young children, and he acknowledged over the weekend that maybe that joke isn't the best joke, and he also, at another point, talked about being someone who has white privilege. so it seems in some ways to be sort of the education of beto o'rourke over the course of a
few days of the campaign. >> also, it's just the limit, ing, of getting every through. quick twitter headlines, if you watch the entiretyf the town hall, about one second after he says that about his wife, heys and i miss my kids terribly and i sure wish i could be with them, but this really important. and so many of us wish we could be with our kids but we kow this journey to be president is so much more important. the only thing i want to point out about beto and where he was this week, not so much he's in iowa, but he's going to three important states critical in the 2016 general election, michin, wisconsin, pennsylvania. every democrat going bac to 1992 won those states, but for hillary clinton. those arthe states democrats want to get back into their column. >> woodruff: and ateention from tedia and everybody else by going there. >> and candidates like amy
klobuchar, they've gone to visit the formerly blue wall. >> woodruff: and quickthe other thing, he and put buttigieg and some of the others, it's interesting some of the subjects the candidates are already adssdg. >> right. >> woodruff: the electoral college, the supreme court, whether it's packed, whi it's been moving in that direction under president trump. >> right. and, also add to that, some of em are also talking about the filibuster in the senate, the legislative filibuster and whether that is something that, as president, they would encourage doing away with, if they could, u kno get medicare for all or some of these other more progressive policies that democrats are campaigning on, but that there's ghno way it would get thrf the legislative filibuster is still in place. the candidates are pretty mixed on how they feel about thaout, . >> which i think is going to be consistent throughout the
campaignbout how far you want to go throughout these issues. preface isn't something we usually tak about on the campaign trail. after the last eightare between the fights over the supreme court, the popular vote going to oppose way to have the electoral vote and, of course, the reality in 2018 that even when democrats have a great year, they still aren't winning control of the senatkes the questions more. >> woodruff: the suffolk "usa today" poll showing 50% answered they agreed with president trump that the mueller investigation has been a itch hunt. amy, what do you make of this? >>oot surprisingly, if youk underneath the numbers, overwhelming majority of democrats say they don't thi it's a witch hunt, overwhelming majority think it is, and independents are divided. what's fascinating in e poll, it asked a bunch of questions about the president, about the process of russia, and, while democrats overwhelmingly think
telling the truth aboutot collusion, overwhelmingly think that the house democrats should be investigating him. only 53% think that he should be impeached. so there is some, like, natural breaking going on, on the part of democrats, that's interesting. >> woodruff: quickly, tam, no question the white house is going to be taabout this. >> oh, absolutely, and they have been talking about the investigation, calling it a witch hunt repeatedly for m and months and months. meanwhile, on the other side, robert mueller, we've not heard his voice at all the entire time. he's not out there advocating for his investigation aside from the legal filings in theases. >> but we wait, as we have. >> woodruff: tam tam, amy walter, thank you both, "politics monday." >> you're welcome.
>> woodruff: one of the biggest winners and better stories at this year's grammys was kacey musgraves, a country artist who took home best album of the year. but the realities women face in country music play a lot differently most of the time. jeffrey brown, who profiled kacey musgraves last month, has a report on nashville's gender imbalance, and what's being done to address it. r it's part of oular series on arts and culture, "canvas." ♪ ♪ >> brown: this is the sound of monday nights at "the listening room," known in nashville as a" iter's round," where singer- songwriters learn to hone theire crafre a live audience. but this one is different, anden rare: an all-whowcase in a
cecity dominated by male v turn to a country station today and this is what you're most likely to hear: ♪ ♪ in fact, in 2017 only around 10% of billboard's top 60 country songs were by women, a number that's actually fallen in recent year and it was that persistent disparity that led producer todd cassetty to found this all- female showcase, called "song ffragettes." ♪ ♪ >> we thought if we create a female only weekly show where a lot of tse women can come play their songs try them out see what the responses are, meet like-minded creatives that they would benefit. >> brown: kalie shorr is one of
them. originally from maine, in 2012 she graduated high school early so she could move to nle to pursue her dream. >> my first concert ever was the dixie chicks with michelle r anch opening, and i was nine and i just rememoking at them and being like, that's what i want to do. ♪ ♪ >> brown: in 2015, shorr had a hit single in "fight like a song discovered here at the listening room and played on the rius xm station "th highway." ♪ ♪ it was an them for an issue she's become outspoken about: the lack of opportunities for young women in country music. but ironically, that expience only highlighted how bad the problem was. >> it was doing all this stuff and getting all this traction has-- you know millions of streams and it sold really, really well.
and i walked into a couple of major labels and had them look me in the eye and say, we can't sign another girl right now. we already have one. >> brown: we can't sign-- we already have one. >> yeah. and it sounds unbelievable. and you know i would look at the guys who wergetting signed and you know, i'd have higher social media numbers than they would and i'd have higher spotify ll ofms and you know these things that are supposed to be you know why you get the deal. >> brown: for many in nashvilleo the lawomen's voices on the air came to a head in 2015. that's when a country radio consultant named kill told a trade newsletter that to maximize radio listenership,sh women ld be like "tomatoes" in a larger "salad," of maleer artists, nevlayed back to back and never more than about 20% of the mix. those comments confirmed what many had long suspected, that the lack of women on country radio was by design. >> it's kind of historically ki of an accepted practice that if you play more women on your radio station listeners
will turn the channel and your ratings will gdown which will affect your revenue. >> brown: but you're saying it's it's perceived economics. you don't buy it? >> brown: the backlash to the remarks became known as" tomatogate," and galvanized women across the industry to speak out about their experiences of sexism, including at this monthly forum called" change the conversation." each monthongwriters, performers, producers, industry veterans and newcomers, mostly women but men too, gather to share stories. beverly keel helped found the group. she's a journalist and professor ofeeecording at middle tenne state university. and i wrote a column in "the tennessean" about it and said, look you know the problem's at country radio because they're t playing women. and then you have a chilling
effect because country radio is still the driver in country sic. so if country radio doesn't play women, labels don't sign women.w female sters aren't going to get signed as much you won't see as many female producers and so on. >> brown: why do you think it's happening? i mean, is it sexism? is it economics? rceived economics? >> i think it is long-held beliefs. i think th it's sexism. there's institutional sexism. there's just tradition, there's cultural norms, but you'd think we'd be past this in 2019. a i think it's just as frustrating to radit is to anybody else. >> brown: that's r.j. curtis, incoming head of the country radio broadcasters, a non-profit group that helps promote the music. >> this is a multi-layered situation and it's ( bleep ) up all over. >> brown: he's been attending the "change the conversation" meetings, and wants people to recognize that this problem isn't just with radio, but with the entire industry pipeline, from talent scouts tpublishers to labels.
>> if you looked at the rosters of most major labels in town here i think you'd find that the ratio is about a four to one male to female in terms of artists on that roster. so there's just fewer of them ycoming at radio for airp consideration. >> brown: if you're a woman who's concerned about this and they're hearing you say well it's the ecosystem, that would frustrating. >> very frustrating. : because then it's like no but everybody's to blame, nobody is to blame. >> yeah.th i can ser frustration. i definitely hear that. ad brown: we reached out to multiple country stations for comment but none responded. and whether rao is the driver this marketplace, or just another victim of decisions made at other levels, many here s it's past time for solutions. >> i don't know what caud it. i don't know who caused it. and we don't want to just put the blame on cntry radio, and g ange the conversation is not interested in findame or
pointing fingers. we just want to find a solution. >> brown: one answer: new streaming platforms, social media and touring to connect directly with audiences, circumventing radio. radio disney country is a relatively young, mostly streaming station based in los angeles that's found an audience by playing mostly women in its mix. and prominent artists such margo price and kacey musgraves, who just won four grammys, including album of the year, are succeeding despite a lack of airplay. meanwhile in nashville, forums like "change the conversation" and "song suffragettes" are bringing women together to helpt one r. >> i think in the past five six
years that i've been in town i saw this attitude shift even within myself. it was like, she's n your competition. she's trying to do the same thing you're doing and that's great because like you patsy and loretta were best friends. you know and dolly and emmylou and all that, like women can support each ok er. and i they're more successful when they are. >> brown: for the pbs newshour, hvi'm jeffrey brown in nasle, tennessee. >> woodruff: for the past few weeks, our brief but spectacular series has profiled several voices from jackson, mississippi. tonight, we hear from terun moore, who at the age of 17 was charged with capital murder and sentenced to life without parole. in 2012, the supreme court ruled such sentencing of minors unconstitutional. as a result, moore was recently paroled following 19 years of incarceration. he's currently enrolled in community college and works with
"the people's advocacy institute," focusing on reducing violence in jackson. >> i went to school in north jackson my whole life, i love playing ball you know, growing up around here. on april 2nd, 1998, i wasly actulaying ball at thean parka couple of my neighborhood guys, they were about to commit a robbery on some guys from out of townguthey gave me they asked me to stand there so, i was 17 and really wasn't thinking about consequences or what soi held a gun on a dude, wanted to take the gun from me, so he ended upetting shot, and later died. >> and who was it that shot the man? >> i did. they didn't seek the death penalty because i was 17 years old at the time. so they sentenced me, sentend me to life without parole. i was incarcerated for 19 years,
six months, and six days. that was my first time ever being locked up, and the one person who always stood out to me was my grandma because no matter about me catching the charge and the family being embarrassed or whatever, sher neanged on me, she's never treated me any different, and it takes a special type of personyo to be able tknow live like that. when you get incarcerated you o fi who your real friends is. you acquire a lot of jealousy for unknown reasons you acquire a lot of hate, you have limitedp you can trust, and most people, will friend you for what you could do for them, so you had to learn how to move around, and be, you know, in that environment. d used to read a lot, i was just you know 23 hours e hour recreation, and i played ball. and whenever i got to a place
where i could play ball, thatwa my time being free. i've been through a lot, i've seen some friends die in there. i'm going to be honest with you man, this is mississippi. so prison in mississippi is different from anywhere you ever want to . i kept a cell phone, i kept in touch with my people, i waable to influence my little sister, pursue her dream and do what she wanted to do in life. she used to tell my grandma when she was little she was going to be a lawyer one day so she could be a judge and get me out, but she started law school a couple feks ago, so that made meeel proud. as i said, i had a phone and, my mom called me and said "i just seen on abc news, where they got a new law, and i believe it apply to you." c it wel and unusual punishment to sentence a juvenile to life without paroler
on his offense. brian stevenson, he was the one that did the research on it. he said his grandma said "if yo want to soproblem, you got to get close to it," and he did that, and he made a way for a loof us to get free. because everybody make mistakes in life, but it don't mean you're goingwho be bad your e life, you just have one bad day. i thought about that day every day. when my friends graduated college, when they were getting married, having kids, moving on with their life, and i was still there, in that same place. i thought about it eve day when my little sister grew up into a whole woman and i wasn't even around. and my best friend passed last year. my grandma. and i had to go the wake in chains and a shackle. >> if you could go back to 1998
ou speak to your 17 year old self, what wouldant to say? >> walk home, man. i'm terun moore, and this is my brief but spectacular take on second chances. >> woodruff: tonight's episode was produced with help from mississippi-based journalist ko bragg. she's reported extensively on juvenile crimes. u can watch her brief but spectacular take on our website, that's pbs.org/newshour/brief. and on the newshour online right now, we've rounded up some ways to help thosaffected by the ooding in the midwest. find those ideas and more is on our web site, pbs.org/ur. and that's the newshour for tonight. am judy woodruff. join us online ain here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thk you and see you soon.
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