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[applause] >> and now, "bbc world news." lra: this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. in the netherlands, a manhunt ends with the arrest of a turkish man. police say he killed three people on a tram. the question is why. e new zealand's primnister says gun reforms are on the way after the massacre at a mosque. pluspulling in the cash. beto o'rourke raises $6 million in 24 hours for his presidential e run. how is hgoing down on the campaign trail?
welcome to our viewers on public television here in the u.s. and also around the globe. authorities in the netherlands have arrested a 37-year-old turkish man after he opened fire on a tram, killing two people -- killing at least people and three the attack led to a seven-hour manhunt in the city of utrecht and the terror alert was raised to its highest level. the dutch prime minister has not ruled out terrorism, but some others say family issues may have motivated the klings. from utrecht, the bbc's damianca grammahas more. a tram late morning,ne at a stastill and dutch medics scrabbling. the reports were of multiple casualties. ndarmed police units respo fast, too. tithey moved in as well, h at least one attacker who was thought was still nearby. dan was in the tram.
he says all of a sudden the shooter came running, waving a pistol in the air. "i thought i have to g out of here." eyewitnesses said this morning on the tram, the man pulled a gun and began shooting. there was panic as people tried to escape the scene. within minutes, police and and -- ambulances were here.ou it is t he fled around the corner. now police have a house surrounded in one of the adjacent streets. this man was getting ready to catch the tram itself when it all happened. >> i heard a lot of screaming, and a lot of honks from the all of an, sirens. udrs. burglar is loose." damian: soon several city blocks in utrechtad been sealed. police issued this picture of the suspected attacker, gokmen tanis, 37 years old and originally from turkey.
as they tried to track him, they ordered people in the area to stay indoors. offices, schools, and univsities all in lockdown. "this has been a jolt for our country," the dutch prime minister said. adding, "we are horrified and in disbelief." late in the afternoon, the t suspect gokmenanis was detained. the policeiege at an end, but the sense of shock still the. -- still deep. damian grammaticas, fc news. laur more on the netherlands and current affairs over extremism, i spoke earlier elth bruce hoffman of the council on foreignions. bruce hoffman, the dutch authorities have arrested the suspect in this attack, and although they are saying it could be terrorism-related, thea could be some family motivation. what do you make of the incident? bruce: it is not mutually exclusive.
you have people often in the aftermath of a high-profile tragedy, such as the one that unfolded in new zealand last friday, deciding to position themselves in the limelight ande position themsas a figure and might act on something -- some personal impulsemebut try to ft in a wider political context. laura: interesting.e whether it is am in the netherlands or mosque in new zealand, these are classically soft tarthts. how can ities protect them in this age of apparently random extremism? bruce: this is the problem, that you are talking about individuals who may be inspired by an ideology, have no connection to an organization, and by default have no training. therefore they have to pick the most publicly accessible type of target, and they are drawn tof placesrship, trams, movie theaters, schools, places with large gatherings of people were an act of violence will elicit
potrage and horror and elevate the person's ance in that their own mind. laura: you have studied the growth of extremism for m y what can you tell us about the growth of right-wing extremism, particularly in the wake of the new zealand attack? bruce: far-right extremism when turned into violence has often been spasmodic, d therefore we tend not to follow it as closely or historically pay as much attention to it we have eftowing terrorism, which was prevalent in the 1970's and 1980's, or was recently the rrorism from al qaeda or isis. what is interesting is that the s treme right has pioneered many of the techniq see commonplace in terrorism today. it is why it has to be taken seriously. tothey were the firsse computers to communicate and often they pioneered lone wolf attacks. laura: on that point about computers, the new zealand theack seem almost made fo internet how can authorities counter the
appeal of the internet to extremists? bruce: depriving individuals of the platforms they seek. he recorded videos and made statements that he hoped would be publicized, because of the power of sial media. rtainly, depriving those individuals of those opportunities is one of the solutions. it won't address th of what is driving them to commit this violence. publicity is one aspect. tolerance and rage are the main things. laura: the opposite of tolerance is tolerance. f it the values of the open society -- do yd them effective in targeting what we extremism, whether it is in the netherlad new zealand? bruce: they are efftive in that these are infrequent occurrences. but we also see vulnerability of open society. their open because of the access they pvide to people, not just where they might go or whatever
public transportation they might use, but for the expression of their ideas. that i think is the fundamental challenge, where is that line between extremist beliefs that have the risk of morphing into violence or transformed into violence and what arjust the rights of expression? laura: bruce hoffman, thanks so much for that analysis. bruce: you are very welcome. laura: we were just discussing those attacks in new zealand, and the country'sme pinister plans to announce new gun while reforms in coming days. jacinda ardern has backed the changes in principle. the suspect used milityle weapons modified to make them more deadly. under current law, they are not actually illegal. new zealanders are coming to ips with the tragedy, as hywel griffith reports. hywel: shot while saving her disabled husband a three-year-old remembered for his smile. and a high-school student at the mosque with his mother and friends. it is the stories of the victims
and not the gunman that new zealand wants the world to hear. it faces the question of whether they were failed. ldhe wave been at the mosque if he hadn't overslept, and his housemate was there, one of 20 friends he lost as the gunman kept on shooting. re>> women and chihave died. very cowardly acts. we are coping the best we can. if anything, this will bring us a lot more closer. we still have our faith, which he can never takaway from us. hywel: within hours of friday's terror attack, new zealand's government pledged to reform gun controls. the suspect, brenton tarrant, had five weapons. two of them semi-automatic s. after the 1996 port arthur massacre, australia banned semiautomatic weaponsel and
national amnesty. new zealand may follow. the prime minister says measures have been agreed in principle.mi prim ardern: when australia found itselfn tragicallysimilar position to where we are now, they took 12 days to make the decision. we have taken 72 hours. there is still some detail that needs to be worked through. i want to do that, but still ve as quickly as we can. hywel: just as in australia, just as in america, it has taken a teifying violent act to provoke a debate on new zealand's gun laws. but just as in the other countries, there is a powerful gun lobblikely to resist change. the christchurch gunman bought fourirearms online withi months from this company. mainstore in the city open, and the owner defiant. >> he was a brand-new purc with a brand-new license. it was an ordinary sale.
hywel: while he was keen to go before the cameras, he would not answer our questions on restricting gun sales. >> i totally agree there should be a gun debate, but today's not the day.e please respect this. i am going to leave if these are the only questions you have. hywel: on wednesday,s funeral will take place for the victims. families have been desperate to arrange burials in line with islamic custom. the need to honor the dead, to cherish the memory, is what now sustains this place. hywel griffith, bbc news, christchurch. laura: for the latest from christchurch, i spoke earlier with the bbc's sharanjit leyl, fwho is the us. what is the mood as people prepare for the first funerals later in the week? sharanjit: the mood is, of coarse, as you can imagine,
somber. 'm here at the botani gardens, one of the largest memorial sites tt have sprung up in the last few days since the attack. there are hundreds of floral tributes behind us. we continue to see people coming to show their reect. we heard aapanese school two on exchange two weeks from japan -- a whole group of students car and sang a song and paid tribute and left a lovely card showing that we are all holdingges showing th hands. coloren of all all of this is having a huge residents in. christchur we have seen hakas performed. there has been a real outpouring of grief, shock, and alsoth solidarity witmuslim community. that continues to happen. as for the burials, this is crucial -- many of the loved ones have been waiting patiently to have family members back.
of course, it is part of muslim tradition that burials should happen as quickly asossible. new zealand authorities have been trying to reassure them to be patient. this is still anctive criminal scene. they are still having to identify the bodies, according to the coroner, making sure that the steps are taken before the burials can take place. as far as we know come as some 50 graves have been dug in preparation for the bodies to be returned to the loved ones, who are eager to move on and try to achieve closure, if that is f possible to m this eyrrific act. laura: sharanjit thank you so much for joining us. , as brexit ama tonight the speaker of thes ouse of commlls the prime minister that mps cannot be asked to vote on the brexit deal for a third time unless it changes.
recedentcow cited going back to the 17th century for his case. laura kuenssberg has more on the basis of rising events -- on the basis of rising events. day's surprising events. laura k.: time isn't healing, it is hurting. every day it seems that theresa may's task gets .rder and hard heriving at the back to gates of number 10 today,lanned to have another go at getting her deal through, not knowing what the speaker had up the sleeves of his black gowns. >> order. i wish to make a statement to the jouse. laura k. bercow has the ultimate power in parliament, and as it stands, he says the government cannot try again. mr. bercow: what the government cannot legitimately do is re-submit to the househe same proposition, or substantially the same proposition, as that of last week, which was rejected by
149 votes. laura k.: in other words, thern gont should forget it, he says, if they think they canp just kking mp's to vote again and again on the brexit deal, because it has been lost twice before >> order. yes indeed, pnt of order. laura k.: you can hear the surprise, and see government frontbenchers jumping up to push back. >> we are in a major constitutional crisis, political crisis we want to solve for the country. the prime minister is doing everything she can to break that impasse. is their's ruli chair's ruling, and it is binding, but i think we ask the -- but ipl sask the question, what can parliament do to end the uncertainty? ura k.: the speaker's many detractors suggest he is using his power far too aggressively. stopping parliament having another say on brexit.
isbut his fans argue he oing the right thing. strangely, the move has united and remainers who both want to stop the prime minister's deal. them not what is the point of having yet another week -- what is the point of having another week plowing through on another go through?t will not all these european deals happen at the last minute. 11 days to go, something interesting has come out of this. >> she cannot just keep flogging the same dead horse, aen she has oing that for ages. let's maybe get on a different horse. k.laurthere is anger, though, too. >> i think what will happen out, occur,brexit will not and the people of britain, both of those who voted for leave, but also remainers, would like to see democracyd one, there wo furious with not being allowed to be heard in the house of commons. laura k.: those holen number 10 trying to get the deal over the line had no idea this was coming. the mood turned sour.
>> for me, treating colleagues with courtesy and respect is at the refront of the reform, a any speaker's counsel would have to have that ph and i'm not confident that would be the >> well -- that would be the case. >> well, so be it. i treat the house with respect. laura k.: respect? there's not much of that at und. the cabinister told me the government would have to find its way around the decision, but none of this has been done before.e th no map, no easy route out. laura: t reporting on the complex and convoluted brexit saga. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tpright's ram, beto's fundraising bonanza. how the democratic candidate is breaking records for campaign donations.
the president of mozambique says the death toll from cyclone idai could be more than 1000. people have been confirmed dead so far, and the scale of the disaster was huge. mozambique is one of the countries affected. reporter:as the journey hnded abruptly. vayou can see the deation of cyclone idai left a major crater here. this is one of the main exit teamseshere the support and the supp are have been cut off. many people say they have never seen anything like this. reached a newhas level. we have very small bridges that survived previous cyclones. but this is the biggest and the worst. >> the wind blew softly, but then it started to rain.
the rains continued through the weekend and always stopped today. reporter: many more roads and bridgesad are an worse condition. it gives you a sense of the challenges. >> we had two helicopters from the air i force trying to g very difficult to go through. a feeling it is beginni to clear. hopefully they will be able to get in by air. by road riict now very dit. reporter: the country is already struggling from economic crisis, and even before, 5 million were in need of food aid. this only exacerbates the situation, and as the day comes there are end, hundreds of zimbabweans that are in desperate need of fo and water, trapped with of the dead and the injured.
isra: beto o'rourke attracting attention and money. $6.1ised a whoing million after announcing his run for president. ele former texas congressman joins a crowded for the de popular target for republicans. for more, i spoke earlier with r.e bbc's anthony zurc anthony, you were just in iowa and you saw beto o'rourke in action. what is making people give him all this money? anthony: i also saw him on the campaign trail in the senate race in texas last year, and the beto from 2018 is the same g running for president now. very comfortable manner, very casual, he climbs up onto the
table counters he goes to speake to the ms. he uses very high-minded language very positive, talking about unitd everybody coming together.de vague on polictails, but he is a charismatic guy and knows how to connect. some candidates have it, some don't, and he is a natural speaking in a language people can connect to. laura: is this why republicans used to st. patrick's day to attack him and his printing and driving record? -- drinking and driving record? anthony: they wld not send out a tweet like that with the leprechaun hat on if they thought he wasn't a threat. that is something came up during the senate campaign and he tries to pivot and say he made mistakes, i have learned from them and not only that, but iab wa to not have them ruin my life because i was a white male and i have these privileges and i had money and it has givei me appion for the flaws of the criminal justice system knowing that there are people with lesser means and from minority backgrounds who wouldpp not have thetunities.
same thing he is using to explain the controversial writings he had as a teenager. he is trying to learn from his mistakes. he's not apologizing -- well, he gizing but he is trying to learn from them. laura: looming over is the shadow of joe biden and if he enters the race. what could that due to the dynamic? anthony: joe biden is universally popular within the democratic party. he would instantly become the front runner. i was talking to an old iowa hand a couple of days ago anhe said that the flaws biden had in campaign intial 2008 were a lack of money and lack of organization.l he wt have those problems this time.l, he is wistooking back on the obama years fondly, and he e uld capitalize on that. if he can keep up ce. it is a grueling campaign that will go on for a year before
people start voting. laura: anthony zurcher, thanks so much for that. anthony: my pleasure. laura: turning back to the tragedy in new zealand, people have been remembering the liv lost. there is also a focus on the children, and young new zealanders are gathering to see how they c help their communities, as clive myrick reports. clive: this memorial shouts it when you see. 50 pairs -- shouts its poignan cy. 50 pairs of white shoes for the 50 people who died. among them, little children. as o so many reflethe tragedy, lost in a whirll of painoughts, it is sobered to remember that the killer did not see human beings in the mosques, he saw targets, and children were fair game. the trib reflect that abomination.
five parish who were under the age of 60, including--under the age of 16, including a four-year-old, given no chance in life. was 14. now at peace, says his father, andrn m by one of his best friends. >> in the morning the news was confirmed, and i was devastated. it was awful. he was known by so many people and love by so many people. it is so sad that this community has been brought down by the shooting. it's just -- i don't know what to say, really. cle: no one knows what to say. but a 17-year-old says it is important that young people have a voice in helping the community. >> my school has been majorly affected.
many students have lost loved ones. just making sure that they know that the school is behind them. that involved and the events i haveed shows that hatred hatre drive out onlyh love can. fruit of hiss the labor, organizing a huge vigil, an opportunity for young people to celebrate life. amazing how we all gathered .ogether there was a really good thing. clive: local schools have counselors on hand to help traumatized children after the lamity, recognition that no one should have to walk through gates of grief and sorrow, especially the young. laura: five miry clive m
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