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captioning sponsorho by news productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: attorney general william barr says hwill deliver the mueller report to congress within a week, as lawmakershirill him abouconclusions from the special counsel's investigationt then, israel. a contentious campaign comes to an end, as embattled prime minister benjamin netanyahu seeks fourth straight term. and, how to handle hate speech. civil rights advocates and tech company representatives testify on capitol hill, amid the rise of white nationalism through social media. all that and more, on tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting.d contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: attorney general william barr says he will be able to release some of special counsel robert mueller's russia re he made clear that part of it-- maybe a large part-- will be blanked out. democrats at a congressional hearing questioned barr about the conclusions he reached last moom mueller's nearly 400-page report. looking ahead, barr said heel would again on his own discretion" to make as much of the report public as he is able. we will have highlights of barr's testimony, riter the news summary. treasury secretary steve mnuchic owledged today that white house lawyers had been in touch with his department, following house democrs' request for six years of president trump's tax returns.
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mnuchin told a house panel he ths not personally spoken the president about the matter, and plans to "follow the law" with respect to the democrats' reques mr. trump has repeatedly said that he is under audit, and is unable to release his returns. new york cithas declared a public health emergency, in an effort to combat a growing measles outbreak. city health officials say there have been 285 confirmed measles cases in brooklyn and queens since september. most were members of the orthodox jewish community. mayor bill de blasio said they have ao ordered mandatory measles vaccinations for unvaccinated residents in the affected areas, who may have been exposed to the virus. >> the only way to stop this hotbreak is to ensure that who have not been vaccinated, get that vaccine. it's crucial for people to understand that the me
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vaccine works. it is safe. it is effective. it is time-tested. >> woodruff: residents who defy the new vaccination order could be fined $1,000. president trump insisted today that he is not looking to reinstate the policy of child separation at the u.s. southern border. mr. trump said that his predecessor is to blame for separating migranteihildren from families. he spoke during a meeting with the visiting egyptian president. >> presidentsebama had child ration. take a look. owthe press knows it, you t, we all know it. i didn't have-- i'm the one that stopped it. esident obama had child separation. now, i'll tell you something. once you don't have it-- that's why you see many me people coming. >> woodruff: more than 2,700 children were separad from their parents at the mexican border under the trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy, before it was reversed last year. child separations did occur under the obama administration, but on a much lessrequent
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basis, and primarily in cases of child president trum dismissed claims that he is "cleaning house" at the department of homeland security, after its secretary, kirstjen nielsen, announced her resignation sunday. the u.s. state department has barred 16 saudis from entering the u.s. for their role in the murder of journalist jamal the listdes a former close advisor to the saudi crown prince, believed to have led the hit squad that killed khashoggi in the saudi consulate in turkey in october. but, it does not name saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman himself. the individuals' families are also nowanned from u.s. entry. in israel, the national election that has been underway all this day is still too close to call, with both sides claiming victory tonight. pre minister benjamin netanyahu's right-wing likud
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party is neck and neck with former military chief benny gantz's centrist opposition blue and white party. we will have an on-t f-ground repom tel aviv, later in the program. british prime minist theresa may is trying to persuade european union leaders to delay evbrexit once again, on thof their emergency summit in brussels. may met with german chancellor angela merkel in berlin, andd then traveleon to paris for talks with french president emmanuel macron. meanwhile in luxembourg, the e.u.'s chief brexit negotiator insisted that progress must be made in the british parliament if brexit is delayed once more. >> ( translated ): this extension needs to be useful. it needs to be useful to give more time, if needed, to make a success of the political process that i have talked about, to succeed in building this majority. >> woodruff: the 27 e.u. member states will decide tomorrow whether or not to approven another extens delay brexit. if it is not approved, britain
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will leave the e.u. without a deal on friday.l we wke a look at what's at stake, later in the program. back ithis country, 16 parents in the college admissions bribery scandal are now facing a new money launring charge. they include actress loughlin, who federal ctosecutors had already in last month on mail fraud. she is accused of paying $500,000 to getheir two daughters into the university of southern california as members of the crew team. californiaongressman eric swalwell has become the latest democrat to enter the 2020 presidential race. the 38-year-old, four-term representative has been an outspoken critic of president isump during the russia probe. swalwell says thatampaign will focus on gun control in the wake of last year's masssh ting at a high school in parkland, florida. stocks fell on wall street today, led by losses in the industrial sector.e
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w jones industrial average shed 190 points to close at 26,150. the nasdaq fell 44 points, and the s&p 500 slipped 17. and, the v basking in their first n.c.a.a. men's college basketball championship title. the streets of charlottesville erupted last night after the university of virginia beat out texas tech 85 to 77 itn epic comeback, a year after virginia became the first number-one seed to ever lose tor a nu6 team in the first round. we will have more on their championship win at the end of our program. still to come on theewshour: the attorney general faces tough questions from congress about the mueller report. israelis decide their future, as they heato the polls to choose their next prime minister. civil rights advocates and tech representatives testify on the dramatic rise of hate speech
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through social media. and, much more. >> woodruff: on capitol hill today, attorney general william barr gave more specifics on when the public might see the mueller report, but little information on what heill release. lisa desjardins was in the hearing room. >> desjardins: barr was scheduled to talk about his agency budget, but democrats had something to say first. >> let's address the elephant in the room... >> desjardins: meaning, the fact that barr, one of the few peoplv toread the completed mueller report, is the person in charge of its release. he gave lawmakers more of an indication of when. >> within a week, i will be in a position to release thatbl report to the .
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and then i will engage with the chairmen of both judiciary ,mmittees about that repo about any further requests that they have. >> desjardins: but he stopped short of giving demoats like appropriations chairwoman nita lowey what they >> will we havfull report? >> you mean the un-redacted report? >> yes. >> no. >> desjardins: barr said he is orking on redactions, bas what the law requires, and he does not believe congress has a right see redacted grand jury testimony. >> i don't intend at this stage to send the full, un-redacted report to the committee. i am relying on my own discretion to make as much public as i can. >> desjardins: democrats repeatedly questioned where barr's loyalties lie, if he's aiming to help the president. lowey raised that it te attorney general only two days to write a summary of the report's conclions. >> all we have is your four-page summary, which seems to cherry-pick from the report to draw the most favorable conclusion possible for the
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president.d many ways, your letter raises more questions than it >> desjard barr said he was celped by mueller giving adv notice of the report's direction. g his summary, barr quoted mueller as concludat there was "no evidence that the atesident's campaign coord with russia," and on obstruction of jdtice, that mueller "coullu not co whether the president committed a crime." barr told lawmakers the white house provided no input on his letter, though it did gea heads up. >> i think it may have been read to them-- they did not get to see the letter. >> desjardins: republicans pushed back themselves, at democrats, as having a political agenda themselves for pushing too hard to get the report. robert aderholt of alabama: >> desjardins: in the end, sub-committee chair jose serrano closed the hearing with a oad message to barr.
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>> i hope that, if you take something from here day, since we took a lot from you in information, is to maybe look around and realize, or just pay attention to the fact that we lean on you to come through for this couniny. >> desjards: after the hearing, the politics returned, with each party arguing their support or suspicion of barr to cameras. but, all acknowledge the real fight is still ahead, when he releases the mueller report, and how much they see. >> woodruff: and lisa joins me now. lisa, we the committee, the disagreement. you have been talking to them, though, as well, behind the scenes. they're anticipating the release the next few days. what are they saying about what they're looking for, how they're going to handle it? >> to some degree this heari was just optics. we didn't alert a lot, except now we know the ti line is within the next week. what's happening behind the scenes is democrats have a bisig de to make. jerry nadler, the chairman of the house judiciary committee, holds his hand subpoenas.
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they could legally ask for this full report. my indications are from sources that he's going to wait until whatever mueller releases comes d then decide what he does with those subpoenas. where that takess then, judy, is to a very tricky court battle. democrats say thatkehey would o see this redacted information behind closed doors in what they sayre classified areas where they can look at this information. barr is not inclined to release is information at all. so i think we're on a collision course ultimater that information. first we're waiting to see what the public and the rest of us get to see in this report, which is coming up within dayoo >>uff: it sure does look like a collision ahead. another issue, these changes in leadership at the department of homeland security. the secretary is now gone or leaving on her way out, kristjen nielsen. it's notes inly getting positive
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reaction from all republicans. i want to ask you about that. there is speculation about others at the department. the u.s. citizenshipd immigration services director, what are you heing fro republicans about all of this? >> we saw some really remarkablf reactim some senior republicans who otherwise have tried to support the trump administration. het's look at this quote from chuck grassley,senator from iowa, who until recently was the chairman of the judiciary committee. he spoke in an interview i believe to the ."ashington po he said, "the president has to have some stability. he's pulling the rug out from the very people that are trying to help him accomplish his goal." chuck grassley is talking not just about the change in homeland security, but all of these other actindepartments that i know you talked to yamiche about yesterday. the one you mentioned right now is important, as well, because r that's somethiublicans want to use, that's an office they want to use in the future for trying the deal with asylum policy. grassley is not the only one.
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i also talked to ron johnson, the chairman of the senate homeland security committee, repuican, same thing. and james inhofe told me this is a huge problem because also open is the seat at the pentagon, the defense secretary nominee. inhofe told me because of this he thinks there will be news on thatomination this week. it puts pressure to put someone in the pentagon, because there is no oneho at land security. >> woodruff: it's a glaring situatioto have these significant vacancies right now. and just quickly, as well, lis you're learning about some early efforts on the part of members of congress to deal with a situation at the border. >> that's right, ron johnson, the homeland secmaurity cha told me he's working on legislation from a republican point of view the change how the asylum system works. we'll cover that in future weeks, but judy, it's important to kn this comes as we saw new numbers about detentions at e border, apprehensions. last month it was up to 103,000
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people. that's an all-time record for march. that number is expected to continue to grow. meanwhile, judy, congress is expected to take a two-week recess in the midsof all of this, so a solution does not seem like it's coming soon i' sorry to report. >> woodruff: well, we thank .ou for staying on top of it. you will continue lisa desjardins, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: israelis went to the polls today to choose a prime minister, and 120 members of their parliament. the two leading parties are both claiming victory, and tonight, the results are too close to call. here's nick schifrin. >> schifrin: israeli politicsal arys fractious, but the results from today's elections are particularly tight. exit polls show likud, led by prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and a coalition know as blue ite, led by former army chief benny gantz, to be neck and neck, and it's not yet ear which will be able to formn
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a coalitvernment with smaller parties. netanyahu's elec aon headquarte in tel aviv, and that's where our john yang is tonight. a john, wh you hearing? what's the latest results that we're getting in? >> the latest results, nick, is there are no results. you see behind me some members of the likud party are beginning toather, suggesting that indicate netanuahu will come here to declare victory, just ae y gantz did not too far away from here at his party headquarters not too long who is r who will be the next prime minister? weobably won't know for a little while. on't know who got the most votes tonight until probably well into wednesday at least if it's even closer, we won't knosw foral days. they're going to have the wait for absentee balts from soldiers, israeli defense forces
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in far-flung parts of israel. they count b hand here. they do not give out frequent upnites as they do in thed states. so we're not likely to see any n officibers until wednesday. one interesting result we're seeing tonight, thugh, is you mentioned the practiceness of israeli politics. we're seeing that o away. there's a new threshold for small parties in thehi legislature, is called the knesset. some of the parties that have been fixtures on the israeli political landscape may not be in the knesset at all. u're seeing two dominant parties moving toward a toparty system. >> schifrin: we're seeing two dominant parties move as close as we' seen to a two-party system in a decade. we won't know who people arevo ng for, but we do know something, we are seeing something, and that is whether people are voting for or against him. all the voters are focused on
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the prime minister, netanyahu, is that right? >> this really was a referendum on the pa tenears of benjamin netanyahu as prime minister. you know, wee spnt today going to polling places in jerusalem, in tel aviv, talking to voters as they came out about who they voted for. and even tho se who voted for supported benny gantz framed their vote in terms of netanyahu. >> i think even bibi supportersc can see howh he's messed up the last few years. i never supported him, but i t think s point we just need a change. i don't know that anybody is really good, but not bib >> after 13 years of stagnation, 13 years of where our prices ofs apartmn this area have tripled, there needs to be an absolute change in the government. enough is enough. d enough of the corruption, and enough of the scandals that dre going on. we need a new clean fresh slate. >> i voted for bibi four years
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ago, but i think that we've had enough of him. >> whether positive or negative, benjamin netanyahu continues to dominate the political debate, whether or not he'll be prime minister remains to be seen, though. >> schifrin: john, this is a pemplicated process over the next few days anaps even weeks. walk us through what happens next. >> this ia complicated and maybe some say convoluted process. it all starts on april 17th. that is the day that thefi al results are announced. then begins a series of seven days of party leaders, thep leaders oties who won seats in the parliament tonight, going to the israeli president. they iell thesraeli president, ruben rivlin, who they would recommend, who they would wantee tos prime minister. as these conversations go on, rivlin, he's doing mental manchester he's seeing who could
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come closer to the 61-vote majority someone needs to have a governmetu in the legis. then april 24th, seven dayso after e official result, he officially asks one man or the other to form a government. now, it could be that he asks both of them to form a coalition government, and it doesn't haver to be the pn who has the most votes tonight. it could be the person, as long as it's the person that he thinks could get a majority in the legislature. >> schifrin: absolutely. we'll be watching in the next eks. and we we know you'll be there. john yang reporting live from likud headquarters tonight. thank you very much. >> woodruff: the frequency and scale of violent hate crimes have increased in recent years--
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not only in this country, but around the world. and that has broug increasing focus on how hate groups use social media platforms to threaten, to spread messages of ethnic and religiousate, to radicalize opinion in impressionable people, and even share live videos of an attack over the internet. anma navaz has this report. >> hate incidents are increasing in the united states. r thank you, mr. chairman, for the opportunity to again condemn white nationalism. it's unfortunate, but it is not un >> nawaz: on the house judiciary committee's agenda today: hate speech and white nationalism, and how social media can amplify both. eileen hershenov, tiom the anefamation league, said violence by white supremacists is on the rise. >> white supremacists have been responsible for more than half, 54%, of all domestic extremist-related murders in the past ten years. and in the last year, that
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figure has risen to 78% of all extremist-related murders. that is ite supremacists >> nawaz: seated next to hershenov, dr.ohammad abu- salha. in 2015, his two daughters and son-in-law were murderedn an alleged hate crime in north carolina. >> there's no questions in our minds that this tragedy wa borne of bigotry and hate. i ask you not to let another american family go through this because our government would not act to protect all americans. >> nawaz: four months after those murders, a white supremacist killed nine black worshippers at a mother emmanuel church in charleston, south carolina. in august 2017, a white supremacist killed heather heyer, who was protesting a white premacy rally in charlottesville. in october 2018, a white supremacist killed nine worshippers in a pittsburgh synagogue. and, just last month, a white supremacist killed 50 people at
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two mosques in new z. committee chairman jerry nadler said today's hearing was prompted by that new zealandat ck, and the role social media played, by enabling it to be live-streamed. >> i'd like to be cl there is no room for terrorism or hate on facebook. >> nawaz: facebook's public policy director, neil potts,le ackned his company has been criticized for allowing hate speech on its platform, but he pushed back, noting quickly removed the new zealand shooter's live-stream: >> on facebook, on iam, we took immediate action towards that video. once we were made aware, we were able to remove the video within ten minute >> nawaz: some expressed concern that tech companies like facebook and google were stifling free speech by banning certain topics. republican congressman tom mcclintock of california: >> suppressing speech, even the most hate-filled speech, doesn't diminish its influence. it strengthe it. i don't think you can be both. i don't think you can be a neutral platform and at the same time exercise editorial control over content. >> nawaz: and activist candance owens testified, she regularly
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faces hate speech and attacks as a black conservative. >> we're not talking enough about political hatred in this country. we're not talking enough about conservative activists being attacked, like myself. >> nawaz: the european union and australia have taken concrete legislative steps recently, passing "personal responsibility laws." if hate speech is allowed on social media platforms, it's the company's executives who are held accountable. we turn now to someone whost ied today: kristen clarke. she is the president and executive director of the lawyers' committee for civil rights under law, a national civil rights organedation. she pln instrumental role in facebook's decision last month to ban discussions onis aite nation for the record: ed google and facebook to join us. they both declined. kristen clarke, welcome to the news hour. >> thank you for having me. >> nawaz: you herd us tick off a list of some of those attacks by white supremacist, but that's not the only threat to the united states, right? was this topic worthy of a
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congressional-level hearing today? >> absolutely. this was timely. this was necessary. and it's critical. these are issues that are life-and-death for people in our country and frankly acrosshe globe. we need to understand better what is fueling hate today, d we know that it's rhetoric at the highest level. we know its policies that dehumanize and marginalize communities, but we also know igat tech platforms play a b part in facilitating hate today. i was very pleased to see congress take some time today to hear from facebook and google about what they're doing to stamp out hate, but doubt part of what is fueling this crisis today is the fact that much hate generates online. this is where people are coming together, where people are going to rruit members, organize rallies, target victims, brdcast their killings. it's really important that we get to the root of what'sli driving hate today.
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>> nawaz: and those are all things we have seen already >> i eehappen. >> nawaz: so let me ask you about this. as the hearing is unfolding and it is live stream, the comments on the hearing have to be disabled because of the anti-semitic and racisremarks directed at people in the hearing. you mentioned there were representatives frgo facebook anle there. talk to me about the responsibility of those companies, those platforms to address that kind of hate and remarks. >>ey, these online communities have really grown tremendously over time and our laws and policies have not kep l k in step. we used to have brick and mortar operations where people interacted and public acomedations laws that prohibit discrimition in those spaces. but now so much commerce activity happens online. and sads tech companre simply not doing enough to make sure these are not places that are leaving communities feeling
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vulnerable. >> nawaz: why do you think they're not doing enough? why haven't they done more so far? >> i hope congress will do somek fter this hearing, take what they learned today and think about the new laws they can t on the books to keep up with the 21st century world ahat we're living in. i think that we bsically rely on tech companies to police themselves with some pressur a frocacy groups like ours, but at the end of the day, what we need are strong laws on the books that can hold tech and social med platforms accountable for the ways in which they contribute and allow hate to fester. n az: you don't think it will happen without more oversight? >> not fast enough. >> nawaz: soou were instrumental in getting facebook to ban those white nationalist groups.ha ho was it? you were there in the room with some of those executives. how will are they to try to tackle those problems? >> it took a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. we approached facebook last summer, and it took many, many
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months of advocacy and pushing and other folks in the civil rights community provided an echo chamber for our concerns. it was very frustrating to have a $50 billion company take the ew that white sue supremacist activity is bad, but white nationalist and white separatist activity is okay. >> nawaz: they would twdistinguish between the? >> yes. we know these are all dangerous edeologies that are one in th same, are completely interchangeable, and all of theo ars that promote and incite violence tay. these are groups who, you know, really embrace these ideologies e hat and are out organizing and targeting vulnerabl communities based on those hateful ideologies. >> nawaz: we should point out in the conversation about screening language, there is a free speech question.
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candace owens aid, "i am targeted. we don't talk about the political hatred i face." what do you say to that? >> that's a totally ref issue. i believe deeply in the first amendment. it's a bedrock principle. but at the end of the day, we're talking about conduct and activity that is not first amendment protected speech. eats you're out issuing thr to communities of color, when you're inciting olence, when you're using the web to organize hateful rallies, at some point we are far outside the first amendmt zone and we're now in an area that really requires that tech companies police that space to make sure that these are fe onine communities for the people who use these communities, but more importantly, we need to make sure that we're not allowing online platforms to be breeding grounds for the hateful violence that we're witnessing in our communities today.
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>> nawaz: less than a minute left. what could some of these tech companies do today? y be other steps could the doing right now that would help to address this problem? >> they need to put more resoces into this issue. they need more diversity around the table to ensure th broken policies or misguided policies like the one tat facebook maintained never rear their head again, and they need to par and collaborate with civil rights organizations. we're in the trenches nd of dealing with the fallout from the hate crimes crisis. we're working in th communities. we're helping victims.e and they to be sensitized to kind of the ugly realities of hate today and understand the role that they play in contributingo that hateful environment. >> nawaz: kristen clarke, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me.
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>> woodruff: by the year 2030, one inive americans will be a senior citizen. and, ababy boomers age, many will eventually enter long-term care. that move brings difficult choices and challenges for both seniors and their families. among the less-discus an increased risk of both depression and suicide for those moving into or living in long- term care. special correspondent cat wise ports on this difficult topic, as part of a partnership with kaiser health news. and a warning: this story contains graphic references to suicide. h >>e was fit and, physically, just, on track to just living a long, long life. >> reporter: roland tiedemann was a lifelong outdoorsman. a hiker, skier, a member of the forest service, who taught his daughter, jane davis, to lovee tdoors as well. but after so many years ofhi
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pushinelf, traveling the world, and servi as a surrogate father to his granddaughter jayna, after her sther died, both his and wife's health began to fail in 2014. he contracted a vicious ca of shingles. his wife, mary, took a fall while caring for him, breaking her back. she was subsequently diagnosed with dementia. >> we made the decision to put them both together in a facility, where in my opinion, i thought that would be the safest place, that they would get the care they needed.ep >>ter: how did he handle the transition into long-term care facility? >> good question. he-- he didn't. he struggled with it, but he also recognized it was the only option. i couldn't. i didn't have the space. i built a place with no bedrooms on the bottom floor, and neither of them could do stairs. and for a man that had made so
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many decisions and been able to ee, now, he was confined to this space where he didn't have a voice. >> reporter: in early 2018, facing his third move to another epng-term care facility-- one that would amedicaid, as the family's resources dwindled-- 89-year-old tiedemann locked his door at his nursing home in wenatchee, washington,mp and to his death from his fourth floor window. >> him being a big writer, i knew he wouldn't have left without leaving a note. and a note was found. and in shaky letters, it just said, "sorry, everybody." >> reporter: that must have been so difficult. it's been about a year since he passed, how are you doing now?
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>> it's... every day, a different journey. i miss him. he was my anchor. and he was my daughter's anchor. when jayna's dad died, he became her pop-pop. and she misses him. >> reporter: davis lived close to the nursing home, and found it painful to drive by, so she and her daughter recently moved to colorado. but in the wake of her father's death, a new program is being developed to prevent this from happening again. julie rickard is a psychologist at parkside mental health intc wee, a 28-bed crisis stabilization center. she's also the founder of the suicide prevention coalition of north central washington, which
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she started in 2012 a rash of suicides, mostly among young people. then in 2018, roland tiedemann's death led her to start asking questions at his facility, of the residents, staff and administrators. >> what i heard was that there were other residents that were now considering the same method, and the administration really wasn't on board. like, they had no idea, because the staff hadn't communicated to administration that there were these other five residents that were now considering theame method. and what they said was, you know, i always wondered if that would work, but now i know. the risk is elevated for up to eight mont to a long-term care facility. >> reporter: sitting in on dr. rickard's staff training was kaiser health news reporter jonel aleccia. for the past six months, she and her reporting partner, melissa bailey, have been examining
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records of over 500 attempted and completed suicides from across them country in long-t care settings. and, she was surprised to find that the rates of suicide amonge res in these facilities don't differ from seniors living on their own. one of the things that i think most people think is that when you send your loved one to a long-term care facility, in part, what you want is supervision. and from the data at have been available, it looked like the rates of suicide in longinerm care, anhe larger community with no monitoring, were about the same. >> reporter: is it your sense from your reporting that this is an issue that is fnt and center for many long-term care facilities? i mean, are they really tracking the mental well-being of their residents? >> it's a pretty big problem, from the research that we did. er to a third of the people who are living in longcare centers have had suicidal behavior-- either suicidal
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thoughts or attempts. and we found that about half of the people have been rorted to be depressed. >> had a home, a new car. now i ain't got nothing. >> reporter: a year and a half ago, 84-year-old jim ellis moved from a facility in arizona to kadie glen, a 60-bed long-term care facility in east wenatchee. he'd already lost his leg to a medical complication, and says losing his mobility and independence have been and, he says, other residents feel the same way. has yone here that you know ever talked about or said that they're thinking about suicide here? >> oh,ou hear it practically every day. >> reporter: you'll hear other residents talking about it? >> oh, certainly, an probably said it myself. but... eh, it's talk. >> reporter: julie rickard is
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workinwith management at kadie glen, which hasn't had a suicide, to try to prevent one from happening by screening residents for depression and suicidal thoughts, teaching staff to recognize warning signs, and then intervening when necessary. some families watching this might start to feel a bit guilty for having their loved ones go into long-term care facilities. what would you say to them? >> i would say, you know, there's lots of reasons that people go into long-term care. this isn't about whether it's a right decision or wrong decision. what it's about is, what are we doing on the backside to make sure that the person is transitioning well when they are going into long-term cdoe? that we arg the things to support them and stay connectedr orter: a big part of that means pairing people who are not adjusting well with those who are, to help them reconnect and re-engage with the community. for jane davis, that mentoring piece is key. >> i think the biggest thing is
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nnection. if you have no connection, if your voice is no longer heard, why? what's the "why" for life? and just havinsomeone to listen to you or to tell your story to. my dad had a great story thahe loved to tell, but no one was listening anymore. >> reporter: for many families evaluating long-term care options for their loved ones, just learning the history of a facility can be challenging. kaiser health news reporter jonel aleccia says there are no federal requirements to report suicides in long-term care, and most states either don't track these numbers or wouldn't divulge them. you would think that this kind of information on suicide in a long-term care facility would be tracked by the state. >> you would think that somebody would be watching. and what we found is that it's very difficult to tell which long-term care centers have had
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suicides, how your loved one, whether your loved one is in a place where that might have occurred. >> reporter: jonel aleccia recommendscohat families idering long-term care ask what suicide prevention and mental health protocols are ine. plac but, she cautionthat the work being done in wenatchee is one asof the only programs she able to find across the country. for their part, both jane davis and julie rickard saeed to do better as a country of valuing the elderly, and reduce stigma aroundepression and suicide. >> i don't want this to happen to anyone else. it haunts you. so to be able to talk about thek suicide, to bout depression and anxiety and all those issues that stem from long-term stuff, that just isn't addressed. we need to get rid of the stigma. we need to understand that a person is a person and talk about it. >> reporter: for the pbs newshour, i'm cat wise in
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wenatchee, washington. >> woodruff: if you or anyone you know is feeling depressed or suicidal, please call the national suicide prevention lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. >> woodruff: and now, we return mi the trials and tribulations of brexit, as primster theresa may looks to secure an extension to the united kingdom's departure date from the european union. having watched three times as mrs. may failed to persuade parliament to accept her divorce deal, many people who voted to leave the e.u. fear that brexit will special correspondent malcolm brabant has been assessing the mood in gravesham in kent, a district southeast of london, represented by a hardcore brexiter member of parliament.
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( drumming ) >> reporter: here, bxit moves to the bhangra beat, the favored dance of the sikhs, beliers in the world's ninth largespu religion fronjab in india. in the 2016 referendum, sikhs folled the national trend, supporting brexit by a small majority. the stalemate frustrates them as much as the rest of britain. >> we are ing played by europe, and my move next would be to basically say, "no deal, walk away and brexit." that's how i voted. that's how britain voted. let's get out. >> reporter: we meet businesswoman kindi kaur at the largest sikh temple outside india. in gravesham, the sikhs comprise they're respected for their hardork, self reliance and generosity. kaur is a member of theresa may's conservative par, but believes the prime minister's negotiating stance with europe has been hopeless. >> they are playing us for idiots. .they think we're despera they think our government's falling to bits. they think we're desperated but we n show them we're
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not desperate. we mean business. let's say, "no deal, we're walking away." then watch them.em watch thome after us. >> reporter: at his charity ball, gravesham's mayor bannedta of politics, but we elicited a couple of opinions. >> i'm thinking of giving up voting. i'm thinking of giving up politics. because it's really annoyed me, and you can't do anything about it. ifyour vote is wasted, if t won't listen to you, why vote? >> i worry that the next extension will just get so softened that it won't actually be the brexit that people have vod for. 17.5 million people e nored. >> youssing this country up. you're messing a beautiful country up, which i love. you lot need sorting out, because you don't know what you're doing. >> reporter: at a working-class flea market, a vendor has harsh words for adam holloway, a former army officer and gravesham's consvative member of parliament, a hard-core brexiteer who has rebelled against theresa may. >> and if you don't know what you're doing, what can we do? >> i know what i'm doing. i'm standing up for the 65% of
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people here who voted to leave the e.u., and i'm not signing up to something that's to brexit il name which was cooked up in brussels by theresa may and e.u. officials with hardly any input from british ministers. >> reporter: but some analysts believe brexiteers like holloway must shoulder the blame if britain fails to leave the e.u. >> i think we've lost, for the time being. but i don't see this as being something of this month or this year or whatever else. i mean, if mrs. may succeeds, and if parliament succeeds in thwarting the will of the people here, there'll be an anger in this land, you know, and we'll have to come back to if >> reporter:itain doesn't come out, how much bility do you think you will have to bear, for voting against the prime minister's deal becausepuou want such a brexit? isn't her deal the best one that's on offer? shouldt you accept it? >> well, her deal isn't brexit. the prime minister's deal is worse than remaining. it means we become a rule-taker
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with no say over greates. we risk the union with northn ireland. ( violin ) >> reporter: roma immigrants are especially concerned about brexit. the roma have been persecuted for centuries. hundreds of thousands were murdered during the holocaust. they've found sanctuary in gravesham, where they compete for low-paid jobs. but, they're conscious that many britons voted for brexit in order to stop immigration from eastern europe.zi spokesman der horvath: >> people are scared becauseey th think they send everybody home. >> reporter: in a week celebrating roma identity, peter pollak, a politician from slovakia, came to gravesham to raise their flag. >> ( translated ): brexit is the result of extremism and populism. there are many more extremists urand populists in other eean countries, and they are much more aggressive than those in britain. brexit is a great opportunity for these extremists to try toea up the european union. >> reporter: with parliament repelessly divided and unable to reach agreement ont,
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britain has lost control over its own destin its immediate future will be decided by the 27 countries from whom it wanted to ob independence. st analysts agree, brita will be allowed to stay within the bloc until it's able to make up its own mind what it wants to do. if not, and the e.u. has lost patience, then britain could crash out of the union, without a deal on friday. but social commentator rod liddle fears brexit is doomed. >> i think when brexit doesnen happ, there will be a sullen resignation among the working class people in this country. this was their opportunity to say to the liberal elite which runs the country, "we don't want this, this is us shouting, we do not want this." and they've been denied that. so i don't think there'll be riots on the street, we don't kind of do that sort of thing over here, but there will be an enormous corrosive effect on democracy, upon people's faith in the democratic system.
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>> reporter: back at the sikh temple, a sumptuous wedding is underway. happiness prevails. but one guest, simran sidhu despairs of the ugliness thater brexit has genated. >> i've had racist graffiti on my car, so my daughter can see it from her baby seat in the back. and these kind of incidentsso aren'tted. they're happening more and more, to me, my family, to people that i know. t i fear that s carries on, the negative economic consequences of brexit are going to be blamed, as they often are, on people who seem like "the other," people who seem a bitll different, andf those things, in my opinion, are anti- thetical for the entire concept of the e.u. >> reporter: at the dance school, bonita bedi worries that she will be unable to protect her children from increased anti-immigrant sentint, and an uncertain future. >> people are thinking, "we've won now. you can clear off." and that's what they want. they want to get back what was great. but they can still have that. i don't just want to survive.
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i want to thrive. and that's the problem. i thinpeople say, "we'll cope, we'll cope." i don't want to cope. i want to carrying on thriving. >> reporter: for the young bhangra dancers, this is a defining week that will determine their future freedom of movement, whether they'll be identified as citizens of europe, or just of brexit britain. for the pbs newshour, i'm malcolm brabant, in gravesham, kent. w druff: march madness ended last night, in early april, and it was the university ofvi inia cavaliers cutting down the nets in minneapolis, crowned n. champions.raasketball as williamham will show eau now, it is a story of redemption for the and a moment of joy for the city of charlottesville, which had become accustomed tos.hock and sadn
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>> brangham: one year ago, the university of virginias uffered perhe most-shocking loss in n.c.a.a. tournament history. they were the first number-one seed to ever to lose in the first round to a 16-seed, the university of maryland baltimore county. fast forward to this year, and a heart-stopping, death-defying run through the tournament, and to last night's victory.f for the cityarlottesville, which became synonymous for the 2017 white supremacist riot that ended in the death of a protestor, it's a moment to savor. to talk about all this, i'm joined via skype by siva vaidhyanathan. he's a professor of media studies at the universy. professor, congratulations on last night, and i wonder if you could just give us a sense, what was charlottesville like last night and today? >> yeah, so, you know, last night the university grounds, which is what we call the ecampus, filled up with most joyful noises. you had people of all ages,
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mostly student, yelling and singing, singing, "we are the champions," and really releasing a tremendous amount of good feeling, a tremendous amount of stress that had beeiln buup, stress not only from a series of very close games in the tournament, but stress from being under this tremendous spotlight that charlotted ille e university have been under for most of the last decade. i have lived in charlottesville for almost 12 years now, and we have not gone 18 amongst without some sort ostress or trauma. and to have this moment whreere our s are filled with joy rather than anger and hatred, where the laan tht thomas jefferson designed, and by the way, just a few days before his birthday, was filled with singing and chanting and a rush of good feeling and community, it made such a difference. so having this moment of joy was
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so energetic and so refreshing, and i can thank the team enough for giving us that opportunity.m: >> branghahat's a terrific image that you're painting there. just speaking of the basketball itself, the tournament itself was not at all clearhat you guys were going to make it, and certainly even last nght, it was not at all clear that you guys were going to win that game. >> so last yer, right, the last ncaa tournament we played in, the university of virginia was a number-one seed and suffered the greatest upset in thetory of college basketball. this season the team started on mission, and the fans were completely behind them on that. we were not going to forget the pain of last year. the team was not going to forget the pain of last year. ever body was going touild on the lessons and work beyond it. and that showed. and, you know, the players andch the coa, they never ignored
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the pain of last year. they focused onving beyond it and learning from all of that difficulty. and that's the sort of lesson that became really clear to erybody in the community, and as someone who teaches young people, i think that that is a more important lesson than anything that i coulach them in class. >> brangham: you touched onth a little bit before, but i wonder, what is your sense of the long-term implications of this? is this a small victory that charlottesville puts in its rear-view mirror, or do you think this is part of the healing process? >> i think this victory will be among the great moments in charlottesville history as we look back, but it will not wipe out th tremendous pain, the tremendous vien that has built charlottesville, that has built virginia, that has built the united states of america, right? those are still with us. those are still strong inle pe memories.
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those are still marked in our streets, and if we are a responsible community, we will never forget that stuff. if we're a responsibe community,ll be able to put this in perspective, put this moment of joy in perspective, and remember, if we have these occasional moments where we can come together and recognize that we're part of a community, recognize that we're part h humanity,t gives us a little lift, but it don't solve the big problems. let me tell you, charlottesville, lcoe every otheunity in america, has a tremendous amount of work to do for the university this victory will be trmeously important. >> brangham: all right. siva vaidhyanathan, congratulations to you and thanks again for your time. >> thank you, wa-hoo-wa. >> woodruff: and that is the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online, and again right here tomorrow evening. for all of us at thean
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