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>> yes! [applause] announcer: and now, "bbc world news." this is bbc world news america. reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. all smiles as russia's leader and the p u.s. diplomat meet, and want to work together, but they are far apart on iran, venezuela, a election meddling. could roundup pose a risk? how cancer claims from a popular weedkiller lead to a multibillion-dollar verdict. plus, a refugee's life through the lens. hoouphotography is helping y migrants tell their stories.
laura: welcome to our viewers on public television in america and around the globe. the u.s. secretary of state met russia's president in a sochi todaigh-stakes meeting given moscow and washington are at odds over so many aspects of foreign policy. vladimir putin says he derstands president trum wants to begin restoring ties now the mueller report has been released. abou the issue of russian interference in the 2016 election will not go away. here is what russia's prime minister and the u.s. secretary of state had
to say about that. >> we spoke about the question ofcnterference in our domes affairs. i conveyed that there are things russia that these types of activities are a thing of the past and i hope russia will take advantage of those opportunities. >> [translated] we can discuss this topic forever, but until we have cold, hard facts on the table, we nnot have a grown up
discussion. there is no proof of those who are trying to hype up this topic. laura: for more on mr. pompeo's visit and u.s.-russia relations, i spoke with angela stent, author of putin' wsld and a professor at georgetown university. thank you for being with us. we have the u.s. secretary of state delivering this strong message that russia shouldn't interfere in u.s. election then vladimir putin says, we didn't. can the two countries ever get beyond this? >> the reason pompeo was there is he wants to reopen a dialogue with russia. president trump wants to meet president putin on the margins the g20. and the russians will continue to deny they interfered. mr. putin told mr. pompeo mueller showed there was no collusion and the russians will move on from there, and i thinkl the u.s. too. laura: vladimir putin told mike
pompeo today that he has aio strong imprepresident trump wants better ties, but can there be better ties for countries that are at loggerheads on everything from iran to venezuela? >> they are reing to try to tablish a strategic stability dialogue. pompeo talked hout that. th to do with arms-control. they are going to talk about venezuela, even though they are on opposite sides. afghantan is an area where they actually have been somewhat helpful. i think what pompeo isrying to do is to find some areas where the u.s. and russia can work together. he mention counterterrorism and counter proliferation as well. but it is a real cllenge. ura: which of those areas in reality can they cooperate on? surely not iran. russia isean -- iran, heonpposite side, clearly, of the u.s. the u.s. has chosen sides in the middle east, russia hasn't and has warned the u.s. about intervention. thwhere k they could work together more is on the arms-control issue. even though ere is opposition domestically in the united states, that is an imperative for them because we have a major
-control agreement expiring in a couple of years. and if we don't renew it, it will be the first time in 50 years we have nothing regulating our nuclear arsenals. and that's dangerous. laura: when it comes to a meeting between president putin and president trump, as you mentioned, it could happen at the g20. how high would the stakes be for that meeting? i think the stakes are quite high, because i think president hump feels vindicated by the mueller report afinally wants to show the u.s. and the people who voted for him that he can make a deal with putin, unlike president obama. for putting bama the stakes are , the high -- for putin stakes are quite high, too, because he wants to show despite mestic issues in the u.s with interference, the u.s. is going to treat russia respectfully. laura: y when the men were supposed to meet last year, president trump was forced to cancel. >> he was, becse the russians had seized ukrainian sailors and their bts and the precondition for a meeting was they release
the sailors. they have not released the sailors yet. if there is a meeting, that sends a message to russia, too. laura: at the end of the day, is it warm words, this desire for a better relationship coming from both capitals? >> i think it is more than warm words. people realize the relationship has deteriorated to such an extent that it endangers other things, so i think both sis would like to at least stop the slide t and normali relationship. but there is still in this country going to be domestic atresistance to laura: thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. laura: german pharmaceutical giant bayer will appealedbi a $2 ion penalty in a case involving its popular weedkiller roundup. the jury ruled that the company, erwhich bought roundup m monsanto last year, failed to warn of the risks associated with the product. bear denies the allegations. sophie long has been speaking to the first pintiff to win a case which started it all.
sophie: wayne johnson, former groundsman, pioneered roundup users fighting cancer, and now a legal battle with bayer. last august a ju believed that the life is a weedkiller caused his cancer and wanted him nearly $280 million in damages. bayer appealed. he does not know if he will live to see a dime of it. >> i cannot say i don't like it. i love it. it would not be a bad thing to have that amount of money. yby would like that. my kids would go to school and have a solid life. maybe wld get better health care. but it hasn't happened yet. i am trying to be positive and look forward to living aong life, or at least enjoying itwhatevere life i have here. sophie: last night he celebrated with a couple after a court in oakland ordered bayer to pay more than $2 billion in damages
for causing both their cancers. gh>> we have been ng cancer for nine years now. him longer than me. it was caused by roundup. >> i hope they can live a little bit more life, since they camear this hopefully they can strive on. sophie: bayer is fighting more0 than 11,gal claims that the gphosate-based product it now owns gave people cancer and ruined lives. but people are still using i and they have no plans to stop because it transformed the lives of millionof farmers across the united states and beyond. rmers like dan kelly. his family have worked the land in missouri for five generations. >> it has been said that roundup made below average farmers above average, just because of the effectiveness of the weed control, thereby increasg yields. for those that were average or above, it made everyone better
becae of the effectiveness o the roundup herbicide. sophie: what would it take for you to think, i am not going to use that anymore and i don't want my son to be using it? >> it would have to be proven that it actually did cause -- it would have to be something that overturned allhe research done over the last 30 years. sophie: bayer says it feels great sympathy for its former customers, but continues to insist glyphosate is safe. you are 100% certain tre is no way glyphosate has any part in making people ill? >> that's correct. there is a tremendous amount of data available, numerous regulatory reviews. we are very confident in the safety of this product. sophie:ke what you so confident? >> part of it is -- this isme ing the public does not really get to see very often. when you look at the regulatory
system, what questions dore lators ask? these are people whose job it is to protect human health.ki ths of questions they ask, the kind of require.day when you see the rigor that goes into those studies and you see the vast amount of information available in the scientific literature, it is very consistent that glyphosatet herbicides do use cancer. we are 100% confident. sophie: it has a growing fight to prove it. lawyers say there wenew claims made against bayer last month alone. phie long, bbc news, san francisco. laura: in other news from around the world, saudi arabia says two oil pumping stations have been attacked by drones car.ing explosiv rebels in yemen say they carried out the attacks, a day after two oil tankers were sabotaged off the coast of the united arab emirates. the montana governor is the latest to jump into the 2020
atic presidential race. he is touting his ability to work witrepublicans and omising to make campaign-finance reform a key issue. the democrat joined ama p field of nearly two dozen candidates. whatsappging service is on the defensive after s installed surveillance software on phones. the company has urged its 1.5bi ion users around the globe to update their response. the attack is more troubling because whatsapp messages are encrypted and therefore meant to be secure. our technology correspondent reports. correspondent: it promises tot security and 1.5 billion whatsapp users have bought in to the pledge that their calls and messages are private. now they are finding out that attackers could have used one missed call to plant spyware on their phones to monitor their every move. >> this seems to be quite aea sophisticated . it will make a voice call, which
doesn't even need to be answered by the recipient, and once you are inside the app, it is possible to install software or spy on the user. correspondent: facebook, which owns whatsapp, says it fixed the flawn its defenses earlier this month, but it is encouraging all users tatupdate to thet version of the app. so who was behind this attack and just who were they trying to spy on? whatsapp believes it was targeted at a few select users and there are all the hallmarks of a pvate company working with government to deliver spyware on mobile phones. it is thought that refers to israel's nso group, which provides surveillance tools for governmentand has been accused of helping them spy on human rights activists. >> they do sell to governments to use to fight crime and terrorism, but over the last couple of years, there is unng evidence that their technologies are used to target human rights defenders, to scare
them, to commit human rights violations against human rigs defender correspondent: in a statement, the israeli fir' said nss technology is licensed to government agencies for the sole purpose of fighting crime and terror. the company does not operate the system.in keour communications f secum both hackers and governments is a constant battle for the technology companies. this flaw has been fixed. mothere are undoubtedl yet to be discovered. rory cashin jones, bbc news. laura: as you heard, the berattack is thought to have been carried out using software developed by an israeli company. there are attempts in israel to stop the firm exporting abroad. maintainshe company while it sells the software, it doesn't operate it. middle east correspondent tom bateman has been speaking to a lawyer, who says he was specifically targeted by the cyberattack, and he sent us this report from jerusalem.
>> as a lawyer, i am used to being a person who defends people's rights, not being the victim myself. tom: this u.k. based lawyer has spent months representing people who claim their phones were targeted using nso's software. now speaki anonymously, he believes these spyware has been used against him. >> on sunday i received two whatsapp video calls. i managed to capture the log. tom: these were hacking attempts? >> yes. tom: the attempts were passed to whatsapp, who started their investigation. nso says itsar sofis to track terrorists, but it is accused of selling it to countries to spy on dissidents. e lawyer helped alleged victims from saudi arabia and mexico. >> it is scary in the sense that it feels like the wild west, so y state with questionable records can ver easily acquire this system. tom: secrecy surrounds the salea of the s abroad with no public oversight. that's why this israeli lawyer
wants nso stripped of its export license. we want the israeli public to start a movement against the port license. total secrecy leads to no accountability. total impunity. tom: israel is aorld leader in cybersecurity exports. starp firms sell their wares at this recent gathering, a tech boom fueled by experts from army intelligce. it is a source of strength, says one former general. >> we are helping other countries to acquire similar capabilities. i personally know about dozens of events, terrible attacks that were intercepted because of the availability of such intelligence capability. tom:la nsos it software has claimed countless lives and they take every precaution to avoid abuse.
this kind of spyware has the power to watch us all. the debate now is over who is watching its creators. m bateman, bbc news, jerusalem. laura: the risks of surveillance -- of spyware right there on your phone. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come, how violence against muslims has become a troubling issue for india's ongoing elections. at least six people have been killed in sudan after soldiers opened fire on protesters in the capital khartoum. ste violence erupted after generals and prorganizers announced a breakthrough in talks aimed at establishing povilian rule. our correspondent s. correspondent:he gunfire ross khartoum. it is the first time since the president was ousted that military units have turned their guns on protesters.
thh is a major route throug the city. demonstrats moved here amid frustratioas talks with the -- as talks for a new civilian led administration appeared deadlocked. but they were met with more than ju warning shots. military units burst through the barricade and open fire. this man didn't know which part of the military they were from. people died here, he said, because we were trying t protect our revolution. a nearby hospital was overwhelmed by the injur . yusuf was shot three times in his leg. he blames the rapid support force, the mobile military unit that has been the main presence on the street, under the direct mmand of the second-most senior general. what ishe surprising is timing of the crackdown. just hours before, the ruling generals and the protest
organizers announced they agreed on the structure of a new administration.mi thtary transitional council denied responsibility and blamed rogue units foro tryingstabilize the peace process. oue names of the dead and injured were reato friends and relatives who had ed outside the hospital. the shooting of protesters has made them ev more determined to stay on the streets, keep up the pressure othe military, d push for the real change th are demanding. c news. laura: hundreds of millions of people across india have been voting in the general election with results d next week. divisions betwn the hindu majority and india's 172 million muslims have grown under current prime minister nendra modi.
he leads the hindu-nationalist bjp. the united nations is concerned about a rise in attacks on muslims. we have this report. the muslims from this tribe are outcasts, treated with resentment wherever they go. when they tried to settle in a majority hindu town, se locals wanted to teach them a lesson so severe, they would leave forever. what happened in the sacred hindu temple last year sent shockwaves across india.th child was eight and was held captive for a week,ge dr gang raped, then murdered. when we found her body, it was black, her mother tells me. she had been electrocuted, hit with rocks, and strangled. she was only a child.r her grievingbelieves his little girl was targed because of their faith.
what followed was just as shocking. there was outrage, not in solidarity for the vicut for the eight hin men who were charged. two bjp politicians were among e protesters. it took weeks of pressure before they were forced to resign. a leading writer and political activist believes those with power have created a culture of impunity. >> it is not just the leaders we have to look to, but what is happening tohe mind of people who are being constantly drip fed this sort of hatred. correspondent: hatred thatas left this muslim market trader terrified. he was brutally beaten last month. stripped of his dignity, he was force-fed pork by a hindu mob. [translated] i had to eat
because i was scared they would kill me. it was an attack on our entire faith. correspondent: worried.mmunity is every face in this room wondering if their very existence leaves them vulnerable. i the attackthis usually busy market was brazen. instead of stepping in to try to stop it, crowds filmed it on their mobile phones. india has had a long history of religious violence, with victims of all faiths, but human rights groups saye last five years there has been a sharpte increase in rimes against muslims, in what they describede as a rising f islamophobia. a bjp spokesman told me thely party compleejects claims that its policies has led to the rise in crimes against muslims. he said the bjp represents all faiths.
but fah is being used as the hindu-nationalist party chases a second term. in a thinly veiled attack on illegal muslim immigrants from ighboring bangladesh, it president calls them termites and filtrators. he is promising to remove every single one of them from india. now indian muslims born and bred are ling in fear that this government wants to drive them away, too. last year people across the state of assam were ordered to present paperwork to prove they are indian. this woman and her four sons were all born here, but did not appear on the citizenship database. 4 million residents, mostly muslim, didn't either. i'm scared theolice will come at night and take our family away, mohammed tells me. muslims are living on edge here and across india.
the right for all religions to coexist is enshrined in the country's constitution. but there isha concernif the bjp wins a second term, that sic secular principal will be eroded.c ws, assam.e laura:ar so much about displacement, whether fleeing war or environmental disaster. millions are forced from homes every year. national geographic has been offering such refugees a chance to tell their stories through photography. you can see the results here in washington, d.c., as matt morrison reports. e,tt: in a setting where music is the local languhese images sing out with voices of their own. more than 100 photos from 10 countries, taken by students who have had to flee their homes. >> the theme is displacement and the human journey. so there are stories of
refugees, stories of environmental displacement. and that is the tie that binds the exhibit gether. matt: students with national geogphic spent a week taking images under the guidance of professional photographers. it helps them deal with the upheaval they have experienced in their lives. >> i am from san jua puerto rico. matt: for 21-year-old gabriella, that was hurricane maria. >> the hurricane impacted my life on many different levels, both physical, emotional, d psychological. photography gave me the opportunity to talk about the experience ofheurricane from my own perspective. >> i am from la plaz, bolivia. matt: 19-year-old nicole came to the u.s. when she was one and did not know she was a m until high school. >> i was shocked, but i had a different perspective on life after that. e it was lwas living a double life.
matt: her story, like many others, highlights the journey these students are taking,he whfrom bolivia, yemen, sudan, or elsewhere. >> a lot of students lien on photography because showing you a picture gives you more of an emotional background. you get to see what the story ii lireal life. that's what i really love aboutp takingtures, and photo camp m has helpstep outside my comfort zone. matt: the act of photography and the chance to display their work has helped these young migrants come to term with their pasts and their futures. >> what i would like people toom take away his exhibit is to really see and understand some of the stories that young people around the wove to tell. they really have important things to say. they already have theies through this exhibit, we are just tryinto amplify those voices. in so doing, add some humanity to the headlines on what it means to be a young refugee. mattorrison, bbc news, washington. laura: the power of telling your
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