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♪ [applause] >> and now, "bbc world new" laura: this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. the rhetoric between president trump and iran becomes heated. both sides used twittearn they won't be threatened. tightening the screws on huawei. google says it won't allow the chinese phone maker to use its apps, as trade tensions grow. plus, looking to syria's past to imagine it's future. ahow photographer captured the country before it was ravaged by conflict.
laura: welcome to our viewers on publicn television here america and around the globe. a war of words between the u.s. and iran is tensifying, with th sides using twitter as a weapon. iran's foreign minister warned the u.s. not to invade his country, saying that donald trump hopes to achieve what alexander, genghis, and other aggressors failed to do. "iran has stood tall for millennia. try respect, it works." that tweet wasn response to mr. trump's sunday one in which he wrote, "if iran wants to gh it will be the official end of iran." for more w can i spokeh a speechwriter for the pentagon during the obama administration and the author of the new book "white house warriors." last week the president seemed to be trying to dial back thee bellicetoric, implying he t ght want to deal with iran and
that he didn'nt to go to war. what did you make of this? >> we have seen over the past couple of years that president geump is a fan of using rhetoric to deliver a mesnd hopefully shake concessions out of his opponents. nbut this seemed a piece tryi to not dial back all the way as he did later in the week. laura: what are the sks of this kind of rhetoric in a situation where the u.s. has sent an aircraft carrier to the region and iraan proxies are behaving in unpredictable ways? john: there are a number of moving pieces in the middle east as there have been in the past and as their especially are today. what everybo in washington and other places around the world is they are worried about miscalculation. these tweets have shone a bright rulight on how president makes policy and the bellicose rhetoric of national security ndvisor john bolton, who has a history of this f rhetoric but also a history of pushing for his own policy ideas. laura: when the iran f minister taunts the prident
and says he is being goaded by his national security advisor, is there reality to it? john: he is not the only one worried about it. the are those who think john bolton, who has a long history of tough rhetoric on iran. he is trying to use the policy process -- he has gotten rid of a lot of the regular order. he is trying to use that to pursue his own advances anpo cy initiatives. laura: we have learned from iranian state tv that the country has increased by fourfold its production of enriched uranium. iran is just about in the nucl worrying sign? that a john: there has been an enormou change in shington has handled iran in the last couple of years, and iran has reacted to that. what we are seeing is the pathways for both of these countries are going to be hard to turn back fm right now. what we can only hope for is that the president gets the best information, and as i look at in the book and ihistory, the national security advisor and national security staff are responsible for doing that. we have to question whether they are doing that right now.
laura: if you ink about the strategy here with north korea, president trump d u.s. allies dialed up the sanctions, and president trump dialed up the threats and eventually he got a summit with kim jong-un.th are they tryinsame playbook with tehran? john: it seems to be his approach to madman diplomacy.g lk. he is not unaware that he scares people a little bit. using these threats is a way ofo drivinessions. the question everybody has is opposed to north korea, whether john bolton will let him back down to a more conciatory stance laura: also, the iranians are very different to the north koreans. they have this hostility to the united states going back to the 1950's. is it possible they will respond differently from pyongyang? john: there is a more dynamic environment in the middle east. there are many different ways -- to a degree, iran using a lot of provocative behavior. they were before the iran deal
and during the iran deal, and to a degree since the beginning of the trump administration. there are a lot of moving piece in the midst, and that is one of the worries, that a player that is acting aggressively in a region where the americans have a lot of interest, and the president's rhetoric is why this is becoming so high-pitched. laura: tech stocks on wall street took a tumble as investors worried about the creikdown on china's hu the trump administration put the firm on a trading blacklist. google had to block of the smartphone maker from using some of its mobile services. could besays huawei used for the chinese government for spying, a claim huawei denies. the bbc's business editor simon jack has more. n:si global trade war is coming to a phone near you. ogle has banned huawei from some updates to the android operating system.ea it that future huawei phones will not be able to
toess popular apps like you an googleaps -- like yout ube and google maps. what do poteial customers make of that? if you are looking at phones and one of them came without youtube, you would rule that out? >> straightaway. >> everything is at the tip of our fingertips. if something le maps wasn't available, it would seem more difficult and less accessible. simon: if you were mulling over whether to buy this phone or that phone if one doesn't come with maps or youtube? >> i would probably go for the other phone. simon: how important are those apps? >> very important to have access. you want your phone on the move. if they didn't offer that it would put meff using the phone completely. simon: a spokesman said that
access to certain apps couldn't be guaranteed. >> just a question of what is going to happen in the future with updates. we are not sure how this i o going to pan. in the fullness of time, we will be more sure. simon: is this a security issue or trade war? >> absolutely not a security issue. this is all tied to the china-u.s. trade negotiations. i have every hope and expectation that this will come to a rapid conclusion. simon: not everyonagrees. huaweie is world's biggest manufacturer of the netwatk equipment romises to connect hospitals and power vestations and dess cars. having a chinese company at the center of that is a concern to some. security concerns first raised in the u.s. and echoed by chiefv at mi6arguably made huawei the most important company int the world, thrto the front line of a new technological and economic cold war, coming out of the security shadowsnto our everyday lives. is this another move in a game
of chess between china and the u.s.? huawei thinks so and hopes that the tit- be resolved.war will but the red flag of national defense is a hard one to lower. raisee you starto concerns about security, it easier to sow doubt than it is to rebuild trust. these are very complex devices, complex software, and it is almost impossible to know what they are doing in every possible scenario. simon: the u.s. along with a and new zealand have shut huawei out of their future network plans. the u.k. has not made up their mind yet. a i share some of the concerns of our allies, athis point it is important to take all of that into account to rr that these are some of the closest intelligence relationships we have in the world. at the evidence and the come to a final decision. simon: wn the world's two biggest economies are at each other's throats, other
governments and consumers can caught in the middle. simon jack, bbc news. laura: the republican wall ofsi unity around pnt trump in the wake of the mueller report has cracked a tiny bit. recoman justin amash says that president trump has engaged in impeachable conduct. response, the president lashed out on twitter, calling amash a total lightweight. for more i spoke earlier with eliza collins of "usa today." you know justin amash, you have covered him. does he speak just for himself? eliza: i would say he speaks just for himself. justin amash is not a traditional republican he is a conservative,ore libertarian republican and he has no problem voting against his party, calling on members of his party. -- calling out members of his party. he has called out the president before. what is significant is that a republican said t at the presidmmitted impeachable offenses. it will give democrats the bipartisan label they were looking for. and it is a republican who has
not said that before. but he is different than the rest of the party and he has broken with them in the past on ais variety oes. laura: does one republican make a bipartisan consensus that nancy pelosi is looking forfo she begins impeachment proceedings?on eliza: 't imagine so. pelosi does not want to start impeachmentroceedings if they will fail, and one republican in the house still means they will fail. will have to get through the senate, where republicans are in the majority. it is not clear it could get through the democratic-controlled house even with a vote from justin amash. there are a whole bunch of democrats who say they do not think there should be impeachment. they are withhding judgment as they continue to investigate. i talked to lots of democrats who say that if the white house continues to stonewall, they could end up there. hibut atmoment even some democrats are not on board with impeachment. laura: on the onewallingpo t, tomorrow white house former counsel don mcgahn was
subpoenaed to appear in front of the house judiciary committee, and we learned tonight that thes white says he will not be appearing. what is that due -- what does that do to the dynamic? mcgahn was featured e avily in the mueller report and had some of iciest details, the president trying to get rid of robert mueller. the democrats wanted to hear from him. he is no longer the president's lawyer and they said he should calm in -- come in. they decided to hold a hearing this week with or without mcgahn. se hasst the white h said he is immune from coming. we have not actually heard from mcgahn, so he could technically thwart the white house, though no one expects him to do that. ura: we have learned that a federal judge has ordered trump's accounting firm to turn over his finances. that is what democrats wanted, so it is a breakthrough for them. eliza: it is a breakh. the white house is expected to appeal -- the president is expected to appeal, i guess, it
is his personal ande not throuh ministration. it will continue to be a messy court battle. but this evening democrats are probably celebrating that. democrats have had a whole host of subpoenas and requests, and at this moment the administration is not playing ball on any of them. laura: the president is in a swing state tonight, isn't he? eliza: he is, a key swing state, pennsylvania. that helped decide the election in 2016. he is there making his case. the is also a special election coming up. but that is also a state that joe biden, currently the democratic front-runner, has decided he will be playing heavily in. he has campaign headquarte there. he has been there a bunch. we are starting to see what the general election would look like if biden was democratic nominee. laura: eliza collins, thanr you so much ining us. eliza: thank you. laura: in her news, a french court has ordered that life support must resume for a quadriplegic frenchmann a
vegetati state only hours after doctors began withdrawing treatment. he has regaid consciousness being involved in a road accident 11 years ago. ukraine's new president is taki a serious approach to his role. the comedian turnedolician said he wanted to end the conflict withke russian-bacd forces in the service country. from kiev, this report. reporter:w there's a ney of doing politics in ukraine. vladimir last few hundred meters to his inauguration ceremony. a comedian who play the president and televisn program, about to take the job for real. won a landslide victory in april, but there are perhaps 5000 able to see his inauguration. it is not huge.
that is an indication that a big part of the victory was not because they love him, they are fed up with the piticians that have dominated ukraine's recent history. most of them were watching on as mr. zelensky took the oath of office. the formalities over, president zelensky got down to business, trying to finish up--trying to end the eastern conflict with russian-baed forces. lensky: time ready to give up everything to stop our heroes dying. i am not afraid to lose my popularity. would even give up my own position as long as peace arrives. but we will never give up the territory. reporter: mr. zelensky is
putting on a pretty good show. the message is clear -- ukrainians must come together and unite. ukraine's and political system will have to change. election hasy: my proof that citizens are tired of expense politicians who over the alst 20 years created opportunities to snd bribe. reporter: president zelensky announced that parliament was being dissolved, meaning more ections most likely in two months time. if he is to have any chance of achieving his amtious goals, mr. zelensky will need to replace there c crop of lawmakers with his own supporters. this wasgo the day thing serious for full at a mere lodymyr zelensky.
ukrainians will find out if it's comedian turd president can deliver more than just a good punchline. laura: the new politics in ukraine. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, the finale that has everyone talking, but the armchair critics are divided. "game of thrones" comes to a grisly end ter eight seasons. the duchess of cambridge has been givenal the real of approval for her green fingers at london's chelsea flower show own childre they visited the garden their igmother helped to d our royal correspondent has more. reporter: who better to judge mum's handiwork that her three young chiren? testing of the garden the duchess helped create. luis seemed a little distracted. but george, there was high
praise. >> how many marks out of 10? 10 being the highest? >> 20. >> 20 out of 10. that is pretty good. ihink mommy has done well. give me a push. reporter: in recent months, the ricambe children have dcollecte twigs included in the design. it has been a personal project for the duchess. rarely interviewed, she wanted to speak out. kate: there is so much we can learn from environments like watchinge skills, actitiesow, physical , bananceg onto trees and cooron. it is an open playground for them.
it is really exciting for kiddies and adults alike to explore, and hopefully that is what this garden does. reporter:hiis a garden filled with personal touches. the duke of cambridge chose a pine because you remember the smell of the young boy. there are also-n forget-s, the favorite flower of his mother,s diana princ wales. bbc news of the chelsea flower show. laura: it had flying dragons and shocki plot twists, fierce power struggles, and the body count to match. last night was the final episode of "game of thrones." tens of millions tuned in, but not everyone was pleased with how the fantasy saga ended. elahe izadi writes about pop culture for "the washington post."
she joined me earlier. without giving too much away, did you find the finale to be pleasing or puzzling? mean, this was never going to get everyone excited itand happy abou the final season of "game of thrones" has received a lot of criticism in part because viewers felt so much plot wasme being crinto just six episodes. this final episode felt like hey -- it was justg to tie up some loose ends. for some viewers it was not so surprising how things ended. vegas oddmakers accurately predicted how it was going to end. i will not say much more, but it wasn't that surprising. laura: how is it that this is series had such a cultural impact? llyhe: this series r demonstrated the power that appointment television still has. this came out 10 years ago andpe le still have to wait until
it gets posted online or watch it as itirs. over the course of 10 years, it became one of those shows that a lot of people were engaging with , which is rare in pop culture these days, it is so fragmented. people are engaging in different tv shows and movies, and it captivated so many people. as a result, after dragging on for so long, people were expecting it to fulfill some sort of promise. it was never going to leave everyone satisfied. laura: what diyou think the appeal was of a show that was so violent and anguished? elahe: especially in the earlier seasons there was a lot of violence, particularly sexl violence and nudity, which you would come to expect from hbo. some of that was tamped down in recent seasons. the george r.r. martin books,h whrved as the source material until the fifth season, were popular in their own right and demonstrated the popularity and resonance the story had with a lot of people. the show came out as geek culture became more ream
within popular culture. so it was a convergence of things. laura: and there were strong characters of women and people with disabilies who really broke out. elahe: the way those characters turned out and what they ended up doing has left a sour taste in some people's mouths. a lot of people named thei children after characters who would go on to do horrible things. people became attached to certain characters and projected maybe modern-day political ings-on onto these characters and the story without knowingit hoas going to shake out. laura: is this it for "game of thrones," or are we going to gee a pr elahe: no, there are as many as three prequels in the works at hbo, one of which has begun filming. from what we know these stories , take pce before the events of the series. i'm not expecting what is going to happen next after all of the characters went the wa they went from the finale.
but it is not the last we will hear from tha: universe. lalahe izadi, thank you so much for that. elahe: thank you. laura: eight years before the start of syria's civil war, a photographer, kevin bubriski, was on assignment there. over a decade later, the conflict has destroy many of e sites he captured. cokevin has a new ection of black and white photographs and he spoke to the bbc about his work. kevin: i think it is through mym photographs 003 that we can more deeply appreciate what syria is, not as a ghost of what was, not as the past, but what syria has the potential for esbecoming as the dust setnd as the syrian people can embrace their de let the rest of the world know about it. i havevin bubriski, and
justublished a book, "legacy in stone: syria before war," the at looks at the ancient cultural monuments of syria. we spent about a week in aleppo. our assignment was to cover the stor people, the shop owners. even after a week of spending n'etty much the entire day wondering, i co't figure my way around it without someone's help. it is one of the largest labyrinths of commerce. it was a noisy, bustling place chere you really have to w where you step so you wouldn't bump into a donkey or someone carrying loads of goods toom one place nother. it was pretty much entirely destroyed by fighting and then by fire and bombardment as well. i have no idea what the destiny or effects of the war had been on the people in those pictures.
i especially think about the young boys i photographed. being in fronty of my lens. there is no hostility, just ano openness share who they are. now here we are 15, 16 years later. did they flee, did they survive? that is what i wonder. i was using the camera very deliberately, especialn palmyra those days. just to be there and walk in the beautiful landscape and pick and e.oose what i wanted to fr to think of these monuments being destroyed intentionally , these are crimes against t cultural legacy of syria. it is very painful to see. it is through these photogphs from before the war that we can remind ourselves of how cultural history, and especially for the young syrian people who cannot be home now, for them to be reminded of who they are and what their deep cultural history
is. laura: kevin bubriski on all that syria has lost. i laa trevelyan. amthank you for watching "bbc world news america." >> with the bbc news app, our trtical videos are designo work around your lifestyle, so you n swipe your way through the news of the day and stay up-to-te with the latest headlines you can trust. download now from selected app stores. >> funding of is presentation is made possible by the freeman foundation, kovlerdy and peter blu foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. >> what are you doing? >> possibilities. your day is filled with them. >> tv, play "downton abbey." >> and pbs helps everyoneov dier theirs.
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