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woman: this is "bbc world news america." is made possible by... the freeman foundation; by judy and peter blum-kovler fountion, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs; and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ >> this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i'm jane o'brien. president trump says iran made a
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big mistakshooting down a u.s. drone but adds it may not have been intentional. >> i have a feeling it was a mistake made by somebody that shouldn't have been doing what ey did. jane also, the president has been talking trade with canada as justin trudeau visits the white use. d, don't look down. we talked to the youngesperson to ever climb el capitan, one of the most daunting rocks in america. ♪ jane: for those watching on pbs and around the globe, welcome to "world news america. the u.s. and iran find themselves increasingly at odds, this time over the shooting dn of a u.s. drone over the street of hormuz. while the pentagon says it was unprovoked, iran says a planent
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flewits airspace. president trump called it a big mistake and he has been meeting congressional leaders to discuss. gary o'donoghue hasore. gary: the u.s. and iran agree on o thing, that an american drone was shot down by iran. they disagree whe it happened. this pentagon footage claims to showt was over international waters 21 miles off iran's coast. the iranians say it is in their airspace. the president's response o twitter, iran made a very big mistake. but during a meeting in the oval office with the canadi prime minister, he was definitely toning it down. >> it was a mistake made by someone who shouldn't have been doing what they did. i think they made a mistake and i am not just talking the country made a mistake, i think somebody under the command of the country madery mistake. pressed on what his response will be -- >> you will find out. e u will find out. gary: this is thtest in a
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series of incidents that have inflamed tensions around the strait of hormuz, which carries 20% of the world oil production from the persian gulf to the open sea.la week, the u.s. accused iran b of beingind attacks on 2 oil tankers, accusations the iranians deny. in wednesday, a war of words and actions. the u.s. invited journalists to ntexamine the fragof mines they say were used to cripple the tankers. last month, 4 other tankers were attacked while more -- moored off e united arab emirates. the u.s. pointed the finger at iran. iran's leaders insisted they are not seeking war, but would defend their borders. on they announced they would monday soon pass the agreed limits for enriched uranium under the denuclearization treaty that president trump withdrew from.
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it is a move that could drive an even deeper wedge between america and europe, which still supports the original deal. companies are facing sanctions .r doing business with ir gary o'donoghue, bbc news, washington. jane: for more, i spoke with kenneth pollack, a former cia analyst. he is now at the ame enterprise institute. thank you for joining me. what is the likelihood of u.s. retaliation and what are the options? kennet it seems most likely the chances are low that thego u.s. ig to retaliate militarily towards iran but we can't rule it out. we have an unpredictable president who has gotten himself in a real bind here. we don't know how he will react. what he has said throughout is that he is not looking for war with iran. h whwants is to renegotiate the 2015 nuclear deal and he is
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not going to be provok in fice. -- in all of this. but he is unpredictable. jane: is this the way to bring ire? to the negotiating tabl kenneth: it is hard to know.' we ha't seen it been done. i am skeptical. my feeling is that trump' policy towards iran is working but i am skeptical it will work. it is putting tremendous economic pressure on iran. that is forcing the iranians to take the steps to try tpush back on us. the iranians have consistently said they are not going to be forced to negotiate, they felt the original deal was unfair to lyem, they are not going to allow trump to bhem and we have to recognize it is up to iran to decide how muc it is willing to tolerate. in the past, it has been willing to tolerate a tremendous amount of pain, and they show no signs of being willing to come back to the table and renegotiate, giveh trump has done. jane: you say this is forcing iran to take these steps.
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this is very provocative behavior. this is a emendous gamble for them. what is their end game? kenneth: if i said that, i misspoke. that is not an accurate thing to say. iran always has options. i don't what to justify their behavior but we don't know what they are thinking. at the veryan least, the ns are trying to create tension in the persian gulf and they are trying to jack up the price of oil. t that helm because they are looking for higher oil prices. it hurts the united states, which wants low oil prices. it certainly does focus the world on their problems. from iran's perspective, for the last nine months the u.s. has been putting pressure on them and the world has done nothing. this is their way of getting the world to pay attention and to say, we arin pain and unless you want us to do more of this,r you had beo something for us. jane: how do you deescalate? kenneth: this is where things
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get tricky. president trump has gotten himself into a box. he is a president who saihe didn't want war with iran, then took a series of bellicose steps towards iran, which i would argue were going to inevitably to produce a crisis. the smartest thing he could do is look the other way at what is goinon here and look towards the long-term, towards making the big problem is, we need to recognize iran's actions are very dangerous. we don't want to come out of this with iran having attacked several dozen oil tankers and oil cilities in the persian gulf, never having suffered consequences. that is not going to be good for the middle east, the unitedst es, or the world. jane: thank you for joining me. an has dominated events at the
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white house today. mr. trump has been discussing trade with the canadian prime minister, justin trudeau. this week, mexico approved the new north american trade agreement. mr. trump insists it is a good deal for everyone, but not all democrats are convinced. the canadian prime ministers next meeting was with nancy pelosi. justin trudeau says he hopes the deal will not have to be renegotiated further. >> we are pleased with the deal we were able togoecure that an outcomes for canadians and people in all three of our countries. we are concernedop that any ing of nafta could lead to not just lengthy further negotiations that we all were quite pleased were behind us, but also, may lead to worse outcomes for canadians a for canada. jane: barbara is our stateor
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departmentspondent and she joins me with more. how confident is canada that congress will pass this? barbara: mr. trude came in to find out if it would happen. he said he had good conversations with nancy pelosi and told her the canadians think it is good deal and they offered to do anything they could to allay concerns the democrats had. he said they were concerned about possible reopening of the deal. they don't want that. he said it was a u.s. issue and the canadians would not get involved. his concern is, canada's part of -- parliament adjourns at the end of the week and l be off for three or four months and they have to decide, do they vote quickly before they adjourn or based on what mr. trudeau finds here? jane: lot of donald trump's interactions with world leaders, it hasn't been good with trudeau. a lot of insults have been thrown. how would you describe it now?
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barbara: he was asked about that, mr. trudeau. ere is the iconic moment year one ago, mr. trump stormed out of the g-7 meeting and called mr. trudeau weak and dishonest because trudeau said he wouldn't be pushed into the agreement. that did his reputation no harm in canada, must say. they had a trade war over steel and aluminum tariffs, and both of them are keen to get the trade deal past.n they aree same page. when mr. trudeau was asked about the relationship, he didn't go into personal issues. he said, the most important thing is the flow of goodsde across the b jane: canada has been caught in the crossfire of the broader tariff war between china and the u.s. 2 canadian businessmen have been detained as part of that. what does canada want from the u.s.? barbara: mr. trudeau was vague when he was asked that. he said there were conversations about china, about what he
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called arbitrary detention of these two canadians who were arrested in china after the canadians arrested a senior executive of a technology company at the request of the u.s. because the americans want to try her for fraud charges. as -- it was seen as retaliation. didn't go into specifics about what he asked mr. trump, but mr. trump said if he asks me to intervene with the chinese president at the g20, i am happy to do so. jane: can canada trust the u.s. as a trading partner? barbara: there is concern about the way mr. trump deals with tariffs and how quickly things can change, but it is a long relationshno. always so smooth, there has been a long dispute over lumber that was much before mr. tru. but generally, stable and they are crossing their fingers that will be the undercurrent. jane: thanks for joining me. a quick look at the day's other
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news. the u.s. senate voted to block billions of dollars of arms sales to saudi arabia and other arab countries. this as the court of appeal in awndon ruled the british government acted ully in the way it granted licenses to export arms to saudi arabia or -- for possible use in yemen. u.k. lawyers say they will appeal. alab raublican roy moore announced he will run for the u.s. senate again. he narrowly lost special election in 2017 to fill the former attorney general jeff sessions's at. last month president donald trump tweeted he thought the former judge could not win. in the u.k., the race to be the next leader of the conservative party and the prime minister has been whittled down to 2. jeremy hunt and boris johnson, who remains the front runner. they have five weeks to persuade party members to support them. i spoke with frank, our london correspondent.
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oithanks forng me. how different are the two candidates? frank: temperamentally is t probab best example. people see jeremy hunt as a thoughtful, mature, reserved person. boris johnson is the former foreign secretary. he is an outsized personality. he is similar to president trump in certain ways in terms of his charisma, particularlyay he relates to a lot of the right wing of the toryarty. yohewill see a contrast in t next month as they move around the united kingdom talking abous thes, particularly brexit will be on the top of everyone's mind. jane: jemy hunt admitted he is the underdog. how does he win it? frank: the way he probably tries to win it is to make the onestion of character, the issue with boris johns othnson is a politician who resonates with a of people. i have seen him speak to the
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conservative party at ace confer he is very funny, erudite, grean literary refs but people question his integrity. one of the issues is the promise of 350 million pounds going to the eu, much of that coming back to pay for the national health services. that was misleading and it influenced the vote. some people said they voted because they thought the u.k.ge woulmoney back. the key for jeremy hunt is to raise questions, do you trust boris johnson? jane: do you think the contest will change now that the conservative rank and file get their turn to weigh in? frank: i think it is dnt. i am surprised to some degree that mr. johnson did as well as he did among the members of parliament. many members in the conservative party don't like him or trust him but i think some of the support came from the fact that they think he can win the
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next general election. the expectatn is, there will be a general election sooner than later because brexit is not resolved. when it goes to the hustings, it favors mr. johnson, just as president trump in a republican party does well. th file -- the folks out on the hustings, the members are moreco ervative them the party itself in parliament. jane: if you were a betting man would you say both of them arein going to er brexit by the october deadline, or is that nonnegotiable? frank: i don't think i would bet on anything regarding brexit, even if i were a betting man. brexit is incredibly difficult and complicated, and the idea, it has already ended the careers of tworime ministers. there is no sign that either of these men have come up with a magic formula to get this done by october. would anybody be willing to take
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the u.k. out of the eu without a deal at all? b that woudamaging to the u.k. economy and the parliamentarians are against it. although you will have a new prime minister, they sll face huge problems that have paralyzed politics in britain for close to three years. jane: put like that, you have to ask, why wld either of them want the job? thank you for joining me.do frank: happy tt. jane: you are watching bbc world news america.st l to come, tough economic times amid regional insecurity. wiley -- whpalestinians are ruggling to get by. britain's first hydrogen train has been unveiled. it was developed by birmingham university and train maker. thees aim is to remove trains from the network. if trials are successful it
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could be operating within two years. >> it is the first of its kd, a british train powered by hydrogen. abthis is t as green as a train gets. the hydrogen is stored in those tanks at high pressure. it is piped through this myriad of piping into the fuel cell, where it is mixed with oxygen from the air to create electricity. that, in turn, you c see the wiring, can drive the motors underneath the train, and can be stored in this giant battery back here. >> what we are trying to do is make a transport system that is low emission and the only thing that emits from here is pure water. >> it ll be used to test the technology. pe is, hydrogen trains will be carrying passengers in two years time.
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thnext challenge is to get a train ready to go on the mainline network. it will run on your regular train lines passing through stations. we will test the train in a normal working environment. weave to get the equipment fitted underneath the train toworkin good standard, so these trains will be ready to go out for public use in two or three years. >> making rail travel cleaner in britain is a priority and it will only be possible with this one.rains like >> there are miles of railway riat will never be eleed and we want to eliminate diesel. asked -- batteries don't work. this is. jane: the financial crisis in gaza and the west bank has
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deepened, according to the world bank, which says the economies are on the verge of collapse. one in three people is unemployed and almost a quarter of palestinians live in poverty. the u.s. and regional allies will meet next week to discuss econom conditions. >> the morningin commute ast ndearly for tens of thousas of palestinian workers. g rushto the israeli checkpoint. thisui ber gets up at 3:00. enhe has nine people dding on him. >> theti economic sit isn't good. that is why we have to go to israel to work, because here, there are no job oppties. >> with the west bank economy in dire straits, it now relies heavily on these men. israeli work permits are given after stringent security checks.
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they are highly sought after. but at this brewery, they say business could be buzzing if it weren't for israeli restrictions. helping to run this fairm, this man says without the state of their own, palestinians can'e control theiiny. >> palestinians are educated and hard-working and if they get the chance to be left alone, they could thrive and succeed. >> in gaza, few have that kind of hope. he is only 37 but life has taken its toll. he lives with his six children in one room. his family now relies on aid, $100 per month. that money isn't enough, he says. it just goes to payoff our debts.
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with financial woes at the heart of so much suffering he, it is easy to see why the u.s. views money as a way to exert influence. for many palestinians, just talking about the economy before a political resolution to the conflict here is the wrong way around. israel has been ready to embrace washington's efforts as it pushes for its deal of the century, as long as its security is prioritized. that makes any breakthrough look unlikely. for him, nearing the end of a 16 hour day, only simple dreams matt he would like to build a house, buy car, be happy. jane: sailor is a 10-year-old girl from colorado. she likes piz and ice cream
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and spending time with friends. she has just become the youngest person to climb el capitan, the granite rock face in yosemite national park that rises 3000 feet. i spoke to her earlier. what was it like climbing a mountain like el capitan? it is a huge achievement. >> i just love to climb. e whole experience, i just really like being away from the world for a w days and i think that is something that climbing really offers. jane: how long were you up there? >> five days. jane: did you get frightened? people die up there. >> the onlthing i was ed about was if there was a certain reason we had to go down. there were times when i was tired and sore and didn't necessarily want to go down butd i wao stop. g.t i was never scared of falling or anyth jane: why did you want to stop?
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>> because i was tired. jane: you are only 10.wh did your dad say to keep you going? >>toe reminded me when we go the top we were going to get pizza and ice cream and we were going to jump in the river. jane: presumably that is onceu de your way down. what did your friends make of this?he >>i got home and told them i had done it, they were proud of me. they were helpl with this experience. especially my three friends, anaia, rebecca and nina. they were heful and they were really proud of me when i finished and i think it is important to have friends like that. jane: did you have to train for this? did you do anything to yourself fit? >> yes. first of all, i did a lot of mental training, basically,
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where i just got mentallready, like, what does this mean? am i ready to do this? i learned w to jog so i could get up the rope.e i learned all ills. i climbed a lot to help with my strength, and the endurance required. jane: you have a great family motto. what is it? >> how do you eat an elephant? small bites. jane: and that is whatid. what is next after you did thish are you going to do next? >> i definitely want to do el capitan. again. i know my brother wants to do ih an he is ready i want to do that with him. jane: how old is he?ng >> he is go be eight in july. jane: never too young to start.
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sailor, that is wonderful. thank you so much. from rocklimbing to a sport with its feet on the ground, an update from the women's world cup. the reigning champions, usa team, beat sweden 2-0 in the last match of group play. bothms t were set to advance to the elimination round but there were serious bragging weghts at play becausen knocked the u.s. team out of the rios olymp in 2016. the u.s. will now face spainn monday. congratulations to both teams. you can find more on all the days news on our website. check us out on twitter. inks for watching "bbc worl announcer: funding for this presentation is made possible by... the freeman foundation; by judy and peter blum-kovler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs;
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and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ...is just up here. that's where... man: she took me out to those weapons. i think we're off to a great start.
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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc dr >> wf: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: risinge tensions in thian gulf as iran shoots down a u.s. drone unllowing weeks of escalation between the two ies. then, with less than a week before the first democ primary presidential debate, senar amy klobuchar of minnesota on her campaign for the nomination. and, luciano pavarottihe star tenor who led an operatic life oand off the stage-- now the subject of a new documentary. >> there's so much emotion and drama in ora and this was his medium and it was very personal. i felt like we could use ora to help tell the story of pavarotti and use pavarotti to

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