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captioning sponsored by newshour proctions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: no laughing matter o amid a meetiworld leaders in japan, president trump wears a grin as he tells russia's vladimir putin not to meddle in american elections. then, boiling point. a massive heat wave grips western europe, breaking temperature records andg promptaders to place the blame on climate change. plus, it's friday. mark shields and david b break down both nights of the democratic debates, and more. d, an inside look at the best of contemporary art.re jebrown is our guide to the wide range of voices and visions on display at theni whitney bi. >> we really wanted to
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nick schifrin has our report.nk >> tou very much, everyone. it's a great honor to be with president putin. >> schifrin: the t te was playfu agenda was set. but then, an american reporterif askeresident trump would tell russian president vladimir putin not to repeat its 2016 hacking and disinformation campaign. >>lr. president, will you t russia not to meddle in the 2020 election? >> yes, of course we will. don't meddle in the elon. don't meddle in the election. >> schifrin: if you couldn't hear that, president trump first told putin as an aside, "don't meddle in the election, please," and then pointed to putin's staff and repeated the phrase. the warnings are delivered with a grin-- a contrast to the stone face that british prime minister theresa may maintained in her greeting with putin.es innse to questions about president trump's tone, a senion administrafficial rascribed efforts to improve local election iructure, enhance voter registration and ballot counting, and recognize foreign adversaries' manipulation of social media.
"from the beginning of his administration, president trump has taken action to defend our elecon system from meddling and interference." g20s are supposed to be calm conferences, but president tru has made them less predictable. before he left, he called in to fox business to disparage the nearly 70-year-oldreaty pledging the u.s. to defend ally and g20 host japan. >> if japan is attacked, we will fight world war iii. w l go in and protect them with our lives and with our treasure. we will fight at all costs, right? but if we are attacked, japan doesn't have to help us at all. they can watch on a sony ntlevision. >> schifrin: presirump's aides say he's personally offended by allies' reliance on the u.s. military, while those lies run trade surpluses but today, the preside tone on trade and u.s. partners turned positive. with german chancellor angela merkel: >> she's a fantastic person, a fantastic woman, and i'm glad to
have her as a friend. >> schifrin: also more friendly at this g20, the reception f saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman.la november, after the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi inside saudi arabia's istanbulst consulate, hood isolated. today, a quick handshake andla pride of p next to the american president. but the g2lls main event e chinese president xi jinping's meeting with president trump. the two will meet in a few hours to discuss the year-long trade t war, a effective u.s. ban on chinese telecom giant huawei. during the class photo, xi, on the far left, walked across the room to shake presidentrump's hand. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin. >> woodruff: in a relatedpm devet, former president jimmy carter said he believes president trump actually lost the 2016 election-- but russian interference won him the whiho e anyway. mr. carter spoke at a discussion on human rights in virginia. historian jon meacham asked if
that means he thinks the trump presidency is "illegitimate." >> there's no doubt that the russians did interfere in our elections.an i think the interference, though not yet quantified, if fully investigated, would show that trump didn't actually win the election in 2016. he lost the election, and he was put into office cause the russians interfered. en woodruff: in a 2017 report, u.s. intelligence es concluded that russia did interfere in the 2016 election help mr. trump. they did not assess whether those actions affected theom ou a scorching heat wave reached its peak today across parts of europe, sending temperatures in france to an all-time high of 114 degrees. heat alerts were posted across italy, and in spain, man 700 firefighters battled a wildfire in catalonia, for a third straight day. we will get more of the details, after the news summary. republican state senators innd oregon areg a week-plus
walkout against climate legislation. the bill called for cutting carbon emissns, but the absence of 11 republicans denied the senate a quorum to act. majority democrats have since acknowledged they lack the votes even within their own ranks to adopt the bill. in charlottesville, virginia, a federal judge sentenced an ohio man to life in prison without parole today, for plowing a carn protesters at a white nationalist rally in 2017.ex james ields is an avowed neo-nazi supporter. he pled guilty to a hate crime dr killing heather heyer injuring more than two dozen other people. a top justice department official said the punishment was fitting.>> he bigotry and ideology of neo-nazism, nazism, white supremacy, and the ku klux klan are a disgrace to this country,b and illegal aced on those should be eradicated from the united states.
and the department of justice has been and will continue fully to prosecute anyone who commits or perpetuates hate cr >> woodruff: after the 2017 violence, president trump drew heavy criticism when he said that both sides were to blame. fields will be sentenced in state court, on murder and other charges, in mid-july. the u. supreme court will consider president trump's attempts to d daca. that is the obama-a program that shields young migrants from deportation if they were brought into the u.s. illegallas children. the court announced today that it will hear arguments in the fall. for now, daca protections remain in force. in missouri, the only clinic providing abortions has won another reprieve. a state hearing officer today allowed the st. louis clinic to continue offering the service an leasl august. the planned parenthood facility is fighting a state decision nor
ew its license. today marked 50 years since the stonewall uprising in new york city that galvanized the gay rights movement. in june 1969, a police raid on a gay club, the stonewall inn, sparked an uprising that turned intoays of unrest and protests. crowds gathered at the site today for rallies, parades and t performanct will run through the weekend. on wall street today, the dow jones industrial avera gained 73 points to close at 26,600. the nasdaq rose 38 points, and ie s&p 500 added 16. overall, the dow h best inpercentage gain for june 1938, more than 7%. the s&p 500 jumped nearly 7%, its best junsince 1955. and, the u.s. women's national omccer team is heading to the semi-finals of the's world cup. the americans beat host france today 2 to 1, in paris.
they face england in the semi-finals on tuesday. still to come on the newshour: europe grapples with the effects of a record-breaking heat wave. what the democratic debates say about the future of the race for the white house. why women decide to come forward, or not, after a sexual assault. m anh more. >> woodruff: continental europe is baking from an early summer heat wave that is expected to last through the weekend. government authorities warning about health risks. and as william brangham reports, ngcord temperatures are ma for sweltering conditions in ny cities where air conditioning is not common. >> brangham: the children seem to be enjoying splashing in untains in spain today.
but underneath the bustle of summertime fun are families desperate to cool down. >> ( translated ): people like to stay in the swimming pool, river. there are no other solutions. some even go to shopping mallsaw to stay ay from the heat. >> brangm: temperatures here surged to a record 104 degrees farenheit. people are strgling to escape the unprecedented heat, day and night. >> the most annoying thing is not being able to rest. you can't sleep well at nights because you'd always feel hot and wake up. it's even more difficult for old people and those who are sick. >> brangham: in france, classrooms are empty after officials closed or restricted some 4,000 schools as a safety precaution. today was france's hottest day on record. temperatures there reached over grees. a heat wave from sub-saharan africa has spread across largeop parts of eurall week. the system spans from the u.k. to italy to the czech blic. in berlin, police deployedater
cannons to salvage dying grass and trees. and in catalonia, firefighters strueled to control a wildfir under scorchintemperatures. tonight, paris was baking as the u.s. women's soccer team defeated france at the world cup. while it's difficult to attribute any particular weather event to climate change, there's growing evidence that climate change is changing the way the, jet stream flod that can make these events worse. michael mann is at atmospheric scientist at penn st university. >> this extreme heat is due to e fact we're seeing thes really large wiggles in the jet stre. the jet stream, it's slowing d low pressure systems get stuck in place. and where you get one of these pressure systems stuck in place, like we saw last yr in california, you get extreme heat, extreme drought and wildfire for days or weeks on end. we're seeing the same thing happen this summer and in particular right now in europe. >> brangham: these unprecedentee
eratures this early in the summer are a direct threat to human life. spanish authorities say the heat has already contributed to atas two deaths. a 17-year-old farm worker inrd a, and an 80-year-old in valladolid. experts warn that toll is likely to increase. >> ( translated ): it has a delay of one, two or three days, meaning that if temperatures t increaay, the rates of mortality will start to increaso torrow, the day after tomorrow or three days from today. so if a heat wave lasts for threor four days, you will s an accumulated impact of the increase in mortality for three or four days after it's gone.an >> brangham:europeans know that risk all too well. in 2003, as many as 70,000 d peopleied across the continent due to what were then re trd- breakingemperatures.os but thdeadly records were broken again thirtweek, and exwarn this heat wave could be evidence of a move into uncharted waters. >> ( trslated ): a heat wave of this amplitude so early in e year, in june, is exceptional. we've experienced this in the past already, but it wasn't this intense.
we should expect mfre intense anuent heat waves with climate change, because it will accentuate the extremes. >> i'd likto say what we're seeing is a new normal, but it's worse than that. because a new normal implies that we've arrived at a new regime and we have to fire out how to deal with a new regime. that's not what's happening here. we will continue to sethese sorts of conditions more often and more pronounced, if we continue to warm the planet and melt the arctic. >> brangham: for the pbs newshour, i'm william brangham >> woodruff: the very first presidential primary debates for the 2020 cycle a now over, but last night's round two brought a new twist to the democratic contest-- a twist whose repercussions stretched into today. lisa desjardins starts there. >> desjardins: today, another important stage for former vice president joe biden. >> i'd like to say something about the debate we had last
night. >> desjardins: in chicagoto talkinesse jackson's rainbow push coalition, heis stressed hisry working for civil rights and clarified, he is not for states rights on the issue. >> these rights are not for up to the states to decide. they are the federal government's duty to decide. >> desjardins: this, after a week of criticism, starting with biden's words about working in the past with people he disagreed with, and he named two senators known as dent segregationists. on last night's debate stage, california senator kamala harrit raist directly to biden: >> i do not believe you are a racist, and i agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground. but, i also believe-- and it's personal. and i-- i was actually very-- it was hurtful. >> that's a mischaracterization of my position acrosthe board. i did not praise racists. that is not true.
>> desjardins: but harris's most forceful criticism of the former vice president came after she told a persol story about being bussed to an integrated public school as a child. >> do you agree today that you were wrong to oppoer bussing in a then? >> no. >> do you agree? >> i did not oppose bussing inic am- what i opposed is bussing ordered by the department of education. that's what i opposed. i did not oppose-- >> well, there was a failure ofa ofs to-- to integrate-- >> no, but-- >> --public schools in america. >> desjardins: today, biden tried to clarify, but stopped short of saying the federal government should have enforcedi all . >> i never, never, eveopposed voluntary busing and the program senator harris participated in. >> desjardins: harris' name is ringing. hers was the performance that most resonated last ni a democratic debate watch party in miami. >> i think she was forceful. she was to the point. she was empathetic.ly she was reharp tonight. >> i think kamala harris has a really good chance. i think women are tired of being ignored.
i think minorities are tired of being ignored. >> desjardins: but biden, too had fans, who said he can win with swing voters. >> he is middle of the road s d he explainings to them. and he's a centrist. >> desjardins: the ditself was more raucous than the previous night, with candidates early on speaking over each other in attempts to get time. d there was more heat an challenge. california congressman eric swalwell said biden had his time in leadership, and should step aside now. >> joe biden was right when he said it was time tpass the torch to a new generation of americans, 32 years ago. he's still right today.'m >>till holding on to that torch. >> desjardins: vermont senatoran berniers aimed to contrast himself with the more moderate biden, invoking his 2016 battle cry. >> we need a politicalon revolu people have got to stand up and take on the special interests. we can transform this country. >> desjardins: south bend indiana mayor pete buttigieg tackled questions about how he
is handling the shooting of a black man killed by a white officer there, and why his city's police force has few officers of color. >> we're obviously not there yet. y and i accept responsibilr that-- >> you should fire the chief. >> desjardins: for the second night in a row, candidat showed a divide on health care. the more moderate candidates, like former colorado governor john hickenlooper and colorado senato back on sanders' sweeping medicare-for-all plan, instead arguing for an optional-r governme insurance instead. >> that every family and every person in america can make choice for their family about whether they want a public option. >> desjardins: with a crowded ettingand frontrunners the most early questions, other candidates, like senator kirsten gillibrand in particular, fought to iert themselves into the debate. >> we are going to talk about healthcare at length, senator, but at the moment my colleague-- >> in senator sanders' bill, i wrote the part in senator sanders' bill that is the
tansition, that merges wh two senators said. >> desjardins: political outsiders author marianne williamson and entrepreneur andrew yang spoke the least. yang said today his microphone was turned off most of the night-- a charge nbc flatly denied. both raised ideas not brought up otherwise, including this from williamson on race. >> and the democratic party should be on the side of foreparations for slavery this very reason. >> desjardins: all ten candidates agreed on one significant issunt that undocu immigrants should have health insurance coverage. the democratic candidates will share the debate stage again next month.dr >> wf: and lisa, just back from miami, joins me now, along with yamiche alcindor, our whito e correspondent. not much sleep last night. so, yamiche, let me start with you. you have been talking to a lot of people. the moment that people bate was that exchange betweenhe kamala harris and joe biden.re whatou hearing about that?
aat are the campaigns doing to move beyond itnd how is it seen as changing potentially this campaign? >> well, thete momentsween senator kamala harris and former vice president joe biden reahy get tocore and the heart of the democratic party, what's at stake in this primary. so on kamala harris' side, she terjected her self into the debate by saying i'm the only black woman on this stage and ie a moment to speak about race. she was saying african-americans anpeople of color who make up the base of the democratic party, we need to be able to give an time to speak on these issues. ld us a special story about being bused as a little girl. today this morning throughout the day, she has been rolling out the endorsements g people have being her, community leaders and elected officials in iowa andsh new hae, so she's trying to build on that momentum. on the joe biden camp side, the campaign is struggling to explain his positions on federal busing and the federal government's role in susing. d today he never ever
opposed busing, but the it mr.ow fach is a news organization that looks at these things said this is a fault, he said busing is an as nine licy. campaigns are struggling to explain his positions lisa, you have been talking to the campaigns. what is your understanding? >> the biden campaign is talking about the '70s and bills he signed on to. one of the statements included a statement inkate heg had problems with busing. so there is a lot of confusion.o pbad or do you think this debate is over and he is moving on to other topics? it was interesting. they said we are not giving you an answer on that. i think they're still deciding how this moment is evolving and if they need to respond again. otherwise, they are hitting the
road. kamala harris is planning to go to california, then to iowa forr the of july, then south carolina. joe biden, iowa for the fourth of july and then south carolina. so they will be on parallel tracks that may raise the general topic for that reason alone. >> woodruff: and there wereot eighr candidates on the stage last night. you mentioned them in your report. what stood out among this group? what is enduring? t >> when yok to the campaigns in the room, they felt universally probably michael bennett was able to raise himself a little bithard to say if he'll get many more points, we'll see. kirsten gillibrand is a divvied whether she became more prominent by being more assertive. the whole night, she had to interrupt the most to get tim everyone else was sort of getting direct qstions. pete buttigieg did not speak much in the first hour. that was a dispointment for his supporters out there.
otherwise, andrew yang only got a few minutes to speak the entire night. other candidates whose names i'm not mentioning, people don't remember whohey are, tht's an indication they have work to dot are critical. they have maybe one more debate to get up to that next tier and that's it. >> woodruff: another debate in july, then they skip augusdan september. a name that came up from time to time last night was president trump. plwhat are he and his peo making of the debate and how are they handling it all? >> the president and republin ns are honingnd focused on one moment from yesterday's deate, one moment when candidates raised their hands and said if they had government-funded healthcare they would cover undocumented immigrants. the president hadn't tweeted about theun debate il that sement and then he tweeted, all democrats just ratheir hands to giving millions of
illegal aliens unlimited healthcare. how about taking care of american citizens first? that's the end of that race. the "new york post" wrote, who wants to lose the election, and used a picture of that moment. we have republicans really trying to capitalize on the democratic debate by saying here are all the issues that are wrong with these people. the trump campaign tells mee theycited about people hearing about the democrat e ories and policies because they think the mople learn about that the better position the president is in. we might see ments in the debate on political ads in the trump thmpaign. bue president seems happy with the way the debate went. >> woodrf: no bre for anybody, it seems to me. it all accelerates after the first debates. lisa desjardin yamiche alcindor, thanks. >> you're wee.lcom
>> woodruff: stay with us. coming up on the newshou mark shields and david brooks on how the first democratic debates affect the race for e white house. and, an inside look at the best of contemporary art. the sexual assault allegatio made by writer e. jean carroll against president tre raising questions again about what women face when they go public. carroll has said the president assaulted her in the 1990s in the dressing room of a new york city department ste. her description meets the legal definition of rape. at the time, carll told friends, but got conflicting advice about whether to speak up and file charges. she says she didn't because she was fearful. her story, and others, are prompting questions about the choices women make after these incidents. we look at this with emily bazelon, an author and staff writer for thenew york times" magazine.so
anya chemaly, who's a writer and media critic. she's the author of "rager. becomes and we welcome both of you to the "newshour". emily bazelon, i've interviewed a number of women over the years e who havaccused other men of sexual assault. what have you learned from them about why they don't come forward? >> i think this is still a really difcult thing to do, even in the #metoo era. women recei really mixed results. i think we're seeing that play out yet again with these accusations from e. jn carrol she has been taken seriously, certainly, but we seem to have a different standard for president trump than we do for judging the conduct many other men who have been credibly accused of sexual assault. >> reporter: soraya chemaly, what about you? you've looked at this i. i know you've talked to so many women. what's your sense of whyomen hold back? >> well, i think she articulated reasons that are enduring. i think there's fear of sming, of blaming, of retaliation, of being doubted.
it's very hard because we have a cultural predisposition to perpetuate a lot of rape myths and one is women excessively exaggerate as victims, that they make things up, that there are so opposed to having the woman's testimony be considered valid or even giving her the benefit of the doubt of the innocence obef nong a liar, the culture in general attributes lying towh wome come forward. >> woodruff: e you think there is a change, i think you mentioned women evenda is there a generational change? do you think are women todunay, r women feeling more comfortable about speaking up than women, say, of my generation did? >> ihink, in so contexts, yes, younger women are really leading the way iterms of being more open and willing to bytake a risk oming forward. but as soraya chemaly was saying, who are paying a price for being public, and this kind of publicn
where you're in the spotlight of the national media, you have donald trump's denials, that's a powerful disincentive. i think one thiisng that important about this story that e. jean carroll is telling i that she has corroboration from sack when she says that thi attack happened from these two friends of herself. in other stories, the lack of corroboration has been kind of counted against a woman. he we have corroboration and, yet, it's not really clear what consequencesre coming out of this, this set of news events. >> woodruff: how do yo this generational piece, soraya? >> i think the way i look at -- distinguish generationally what's happening is we have equipped people with a language that maybe didn't exist before. so even e. jeacarroll essentially said, well, i didn't call it rape, i'm not that person, i'm not a victim, i wasn't raped. she sort of allose to that or explicitly says that, and i think that younger women, a
younger generation of women understand the language and also have gone through a process in the culture where fis culture is actively trying to destigmatize rape so thathe rape victims who are able to feel very strongly that shame is not theirs, but, in fact, the shamehould be t rapist's shame. that's a struggle in our culture. we don't live in thatut cul where the perpetrators really pay consequence >> woodruff: speaking of that, emily bazelon, how much of an effect does it have on women overall that high profile women, like ata hill, like christine glazy fd, wh didn't -- christine blasey ford who didn't start out high profile but came out in the kavanaugh confirmation hearings, that these women are believed? >> that has an eff soraya is right about the new
language and the fact that some younger women are ableo call a sexual assault or rape what it is without feeling that it's consuming their wole identity. i think one of the reasons some older men are more reluctant to make that kind of accusation is that, to be a pe victim feels like it can kind of take over your whole life. some went want to say, no, there are obviously more parts to me, there was one experience. so i think making morroom for that kind of understanding, for naming the behavior what it is but also allowing women to be fuller, more talee-dimensi people that are more than victimhood. >> woodruff: and i guess, you know, picking up on that, soraya, the fact that we are talking about this more openly, we're having conversations today, people are writing about it, speaking about it in way that is all hush-hush. >> it wahush-hush and, you know, mainstrea mainstream medil
today we see this, accustomed to using family friendly euphemisms for rape -- hetook advantage of her, a child prostitute -- all the words we use downplay what was happening and nimalize and trivialize it. you can hear it with e. jean carroll where she said it was only three minutes with me and i wasn't like the women in the migrant camps. so being able to use accurate language and describe clearly what happened is really important, and media i think needs to do a better job of, theds to do a better job of talking to victims, of sourcing stoes much more increasively -- inclusively, and understanding the issue is not a victim has no objective, the issue is we need to think about credibility and why the experience gives them a certain kind of kno awled makes them legitimate as sources. >> woodruff: finally, emily, i
want to ask you about the role of men in all this. do w seee more conversation among men about this?e is anything changing there? >> well, i think some men are really trying to figure ou how to support women, how to talk about this with women, how to listen in a w that feels deeply empathetic, and then i think some men are very nervous about the surfacing of all this coersation in the culture, wondering about how far it goes, whose conduct is in jeopardy, and these are all really deep and important questions that 's going to take a while to sort out. >> woodruff: soraya. i agree with emily. i mean, i think part of the issue with #too is sort of the flip side, which is men quietly thinking me, too. if he did tnehat, i've dohat, does that make me this person? really, it comes down to an interrogation of masculinity and manhood. we see men are much more likely
to doubt women'stimes uness they themselves have been assaulted. >> woodruff: unless the then themselves. >> i believe we have many more boys and men assaulted than we are willing to admit to or who are willing to come forward because, in fact, their shame is very, very deep. it usually takes a man until he's in his '50s or '60s to come forward. if a man has experienceds assault, he nds to stories of assault the way a typical woman does, which is much more sympathy or empathy likelihood to find the testimony cred ile. so i this hard for men because, in fact, if all the women around them are saying this is happening, we're ngi threatened or who asked, it means they are failing, in fact, to perform ada funntal function of their manhood, which is to protect them. nobody wants thaont informa because it's an impossible ide ideal. men can't protect the women in their lives and follow them around 24-7. the best way is to confront
other men. >> woodruff: it's a tought subject e we need to keep talking about coming back to. soraya chemaly, emily bazelon, thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: it has been a big f we news. 20 democrats took the stage for the first time, and nine supreme court justices finished their term with two key cases that could re-shape how our democracy functions. here to reflect on it all are shields and brooks. that is syndicated columnist mark shields, and "new york times" columnist david brooks, who joins us from aspen, colorado. hello to both of you. david, i'm going to start with you. you aryou are in aspen, but i gather you did watch those debates over the last two nights. let's start by talking about the main takea gys. >> iting in touch with the real america out here. (laughter)
you know, i think my main takeaway is how far the democratic party has gone to thw left andittle moderates in the debates have any interest in fightingt. two wants, warren and sanders, said they wanted to get rid of all private employer-based health plans. only 13% of americans agree with that. all candidates of all stripes think they can't getnybody to their left on immigration policy, and they're warning toward an opn borders type approach. this would be, i think,at devag in the fall. this country has 35% of the lpeople who cal them conservatives, 35 moerate and 26 liberals. you can't win with 26 percent but this debate was entirely within that little parenthesis. >> woodruff: is that what you're seeing, mark, in this firsdebate. >> is this i don't see things exactly the way you do from aspen, but for those democrats objective is the removal of
donald trump, it hasn't been a good week. the great unfinished business of franklin roosevelt's new deal, lyndon johnson's great society and jack kennedy w national health insurance and at great political cost, the democrats, without any helpm the republicans, without any totalsi ance, passed in 2010 under democratic president barack obama.t ever sipen, five consecutive elections, republicans saidre we're going toeal it, repeal it. democrats two to onee takck the healthcare. so democrats suggest were gengt going to get rid of it. you like private health insurance, we're getting rid of private insuran. is is a party, let's be honest, in a poared washington couldn't pass an adjournment motion, but they're going to pass the national
health. i would say it was impractical, unhelpful and flirted with open borders on immigration. i just thi the whole image of coming out of that was not a party that was responding to voters but responding to its own interests and its own constituencies. >> woodruff: when you stack the democrats up, isn't case most of them are sayihey're not ready to throw out private insurance yet?ha >>is true. i think one thing it's worth reminding ourselves about iss most vote new to these people, and the instant polls after the debates are not qui what we read on twitter. a lot of people, and i mean a salot of their candidate their approval rate go up significantly. for cory booker, it's the irst look for a lot of people and they liked what hay saw. after biden, the conventional wisdom did poo nrly but so much in the polls. he suffered with the harris interchange on busing, but
people still like joe biden. so he hasn't sunk himself. i think he has to prove next time that he's abl tto go toeo toe with donald trump and if he couldn't go toe to toe with kamala harris on an attack that he should have anticipated, it will be hard tore go toe to toe with trump. his performance next time is more crucial. >> woodruff: how did you head joe biddled last night? >> badly. he was unprepared. he had to know t charge was coming, having had so much coverage for his mention sort of and reminiscens about jim eastland of mississippi and herman talmadge of georgia as colleagues he'd gotten along with and arch segregationists, both. it's almost he rlecand it was personal. i felt joe biden stood in bad contrast to pete buttigieg, mayor of south bend, who accepted responsibility, he owned the fact that the south
bend police department had not -- had failed to recruit african-americans and took that responsibility and said it's o me, and biden just somehow couldn't do that. it was a tortured argumt he made for the difference between his position in wilmington and kamala harris' -eti mean, l's ie very frank, civil rights has been a nationaue in this country. states' rights has been the resistance mantra. i judet thought joe did not handle it well. when asked what his principle objective would be first day in office, he said defeat donald trump. well, if au're going to ha first day in office, that's a given, you've defeated donald trump. >> woodruff: so, david, whether it was kamala harris or pete buttieg, or lest we forget the first night when we had elizabeth warren ue with the others, were there candidates who significantly helped themselves in thesede
tes? >> yeah, i would say warren and harris would be the two.nt what'seresting, is right now, the key fight is who's going to be the progressive rival, who's going to be the face for the progressive side of the party, and warn an sanders and harris are all vying for it. i think warren and hars did particularly well. i've always thought harris would be the most fomidabl progressive because her whole life going back to when she was a prosecutor, she's just a forceful arguer. she says i have an eye for an emy and i know how to gfter them, and that strikes me as the mood for a lot of progressives and democrats so they help themselves. i think what's interesting is will there be a moderate kreprisal. ambuchar from minnesota should have said i don't think our party should go there, she should have pulled tha ptnch. michael bennett from colorado tried to do that. then the final pieces buttigieg, who seems to ver, i would say his path to nomition
is the two camps get tired of fighting each other and need a unity candidate and buttigieg could potentially be thaertype ofn. >> woodruff: how do you see where anybody in this group helps themselves.r >> decem 2003, six weeks before the iowa caucuses, al gore, former vice prident who had won the popular vote against george bush in 2000, three years earlier, broke the political worldwide open. he endorsed howard dean, democratic fumer state chairman and made his nomination. five weeks over the an campaign was over. this is opening day of the season. occollectively for the dets, it was not good. think of the 80 yards of theth fiel republicans have surrendered to them on the abortion issreue. blicans have been running away from what republicans did in alabama and georgia, and in
missouri and ohio, and the president who's beean distncing himself, even, and what do democrats do? i mean, the byasically, you know, just endorse abortion and throw in, well, how about trans people, covioering abo to me, they weren't thinkg streejcally. i mean, they own the majority position in the country. so, to me, i just don't understand the strategy. >> i would si across all issues -- i would say across all issues there's an insulatorty issues. whether it's economy, abortion, immigratn, i don't think they're perceiving how a lot of people even in democratic house districts are per steveing them and seeing them as something quite strange. >> woodruff: i want to ask you th about the big supreme court decisions that came down yesterday. david, you saw a divided court, two big decisions, the first one
on what's called partisan jeer gerrymandering, where states draw lines based on partisan reasons to hurt the other part of the political. the court said that can continue. >> gerrymandering is a comete manipulation of the electorate. the question is how to fix it. i think the best way is throu independent commissions. voters in eight states so far, five in 2018, voted to create an independent commissionrand have themthe lines and i frankly say that's a better option than letting legislators do it who are inherently compromised because of political letting the courts do i who have no accountability. so i'm sort of glad the courts y this isn't going to be an issue, but it means everyone has to work harder to get in theirent commission own state. >> court found seggated tools
are separate but equal. that's basically what the decision was yesterday. we found out this is unjust,co undemocraticupting to have this system, but we're not going to dirty our own hands with it. i agree with david in the best of all possible words, iowa, arizona approach, we have a commission and it's fairly done and not done like it's beedone in ohio or maryland or north carolina, but, you know, edied.ot to be re i mean, we're talking about a democracy under siege. in this country afor russia, as we've learned again. so, you know, to me i just think justice kagan was absolutely right, it's a duty ana responsibility toct. >> woodruff: both of these decisions are very much affecting the functioning of our democracy. david, less than two minutes, the other decision ha to do with the trump administration'st mpt to insert a citizenship question in the 2020 census. the court in this case said the trump argument had not been one
that they could y. so -- and they sent it back and said, for ow, we're not going to let this go forward. what does this say to you? d >> yeah, the wothink justices used was "contrived." it was a contrived argument. they were trying to figure out a way to deter immigration and not provide benefits for communities who have a lot of immigran or maybe undocumented immigrants. so there's no way to ask this or try to use a census to push people into the shadows which is what this is an attempt to do. i wish there had been a more clear ruling but thety utered an elementary truth that this was contrived reaning to deter immigration from coming out in the open. >>oodruff: the chief justice joined with the four more liberals. >> they did, and it was based on a lie. the congress saying the justice department wanted this to enforce the voting rights act which is a total fabrication. it came from the department cf
commerce, e from the political arm of the trump trump organization. wilma ross, secretary of congress, did not originate with him intelleually but di politically. it was an attempt to rob people of what is deserved, not simply presentation in numbers, but so many programs, the formula is sed upon need, and if we don't even know these people, if they're in the shadows, if they don't exist, they will be deprived of what th are owed. >> woodruff: both of these decisions very mucwoh rth reading over the weekend if people haven'tad a chance to. thank you both, mark shields, david brooks. >> woodruf it is a big moment with some of the biggest names
of today, and the future, in contemporary art on display. as jeffrey brown explores, these works at the whitney biennial can also inspire controversy. it's part of our ongoing arts and culture series, "canvas." >> brown: it's called "procession," by artist nicole eisenman. large sculptural figures installed on a roof terrace at the whitney museum in new york, made of plaster, metal, fiberglass-- a bit of everything. it's the largest and brashest piece in the 2019 version of the whitney biennial, widely considered the country's premier survey of contemporary american art. works by 75 artists in a wide variety of media and formats: on the wall in photographs by hn edmonds, and curran hattleberg.he onloor and in the air, in a performance piece by brendan fernande curators rujeko hockley andt jane panetta w to see that
american art today comes in many forms, and from all >> that's something we really wanted to foreground in the exhibition that actually there's a great diversity of work being made all across this country, in terms of medium, in terms of ideas, in terms of approach, in terms of issues at are of relevance. >> you know, while dealing with big, socio-political questions that are on the table in a major way right now in the country, the work didn't feel angry or polemical, but it felt hopeful and often productive. >> brown: one thing they found, even in this high-tech age? artists still like to make things by hand. 31-year-old pat phillips, from m l town in louisiana, painted a giant mural addressing issues of race and incarceration that comes with its own wood fence and bench. there are finely-crafted
sculptures by diane simpson. and daniel lind-ramos, whose assemblage of tools, branches, natural and salvaged materials, becomes a kind of shrine to the suffering from the 2017 hurricane in his native puerto. ri and, there's also the strange, translucent torso-shaped hanginb forms, hand-maragen moss, who wants us to walk around and peer inside them. >> sculpture's, to me, , tegorical imperatives is can teach us about space like nothing else. >> brown: moss is also a lawyer, no doubt unusual for a bieial artist, but she likes the way her two disciplines make her ink differently. >> when you're a lawyer, you're given a set of facts. they areot in your control. and a good lawyer's job is to analyze, issue, spot, address them and solve them. art could almost be an opposite funnel, where there are no facts. i make the facts, and then i solve problems that don't exist. i semy own questions.
>> brown: the whitney biennial is knownor addressing current political issues, but this year, the museum itself has become the focal point, in a controversy similar to that facing other cultural institutions. the metropolitan museum of art and other museums have been targeted in thlast year for accepting so-called "toxic philanthropy" from the sackler to the opioid crisis. at issue here, the vice chairman ng its board of trustees, warren kanders, a leadiunder, and head of a company called safariland, which makes militarn and law forcement equipment.af sereports that its tear gas canisters were ud on asylum reekers at the u.s.-mexico border and elsewactivists, who've held regular protests at the museum, demanded kanders leave the board. no action has been taken to date. spking to the press at the biennial opening, whitney director adam weinberg said
this: >> this is a challenging time for many of th country's cultural and educational institutions. at the whitney, we are engaged daily in exploring a range of difficult topics, including these complicated questions are also being debated publicly, with a range of viewpoints being expressed on all sides. we are taking these questions seriously. >> brown: one direct response at the biennial came from the group forensic architecture, which produced a ten-minute video called "triple chaser"-- named der a type of tear gas gre that tracks and vividly illustrates its use at hotspotsd around the w a group of museum employees signed a letter calling for kanders to resign. among them, biennial co-curator hockley. >> this is certainly a different sort of controversy, and one that we didn't anticipate at any time. you know, i think that we are all making our own personal choices about how to approach and how to handle these different situations. >> brown: more than two-thirds of the participating artists
so signed on to a call f kanders resignation, including nicholas galanin, an alaskan of tlingit and unangax descent. >> this is a reference to that noise in conversation towards cultural communities, which is our histories, our stories, our voices. >> brown: but his work in the exhibition, including a large tapestry called erhite noise: an prayer rug," raised different questions for art museums anthe larger society, about what he terms "agency for indigenous people," including artists. >> if we look at numbers and statistics, who is represented in these spaces often? it's been a slow overturn. in the world of art history, in the world of art htory that's taught, the idea of craft versus fine art. those are all real conversations and those are frameworks that get placed onto us. >> brown: do you see that changing, especially in institutions like this? >> slowly. it's not fast enough. >> brown: this biennial is unusually diverse-- more than
half its artists are women. additionally, more than half are artists of color. it also skews young. three-quarters are under 40, including eddie arroyo of miami, whose suite of paintings of a small restaurant in his ttle haiti neighborhood is an artistic approach to documenting and fighting gentrification. you're capturing the images of certain buildings. >> yeah, certain buildings, i el, are important or notable. also i anticipated instances where there was going to bema decisions bein on what structures or businesses are allowed to exist, and which ones were allowed to eithr be evicted,rceived as failures. >> brown: why a business lasts, or doesn't last. that could be an issue for developers, that could be for lawyers, that could be for journalists. >> that could be for people in the neighborhood as well. >> brown: yeah, but why is it for a painter,hy is it for an artist? >> because i livthere. >> brown: as simple as that.
in a deeply divided america, the artists chosen by curators panetta and hockley exhibit a t quieter ton in the past. you have to listen for it, as in kota ezawa's animation of football players kneeling dualng the nanthem. and look for it, in jeffrey gibson's huge banners. >> a lot of those big socio- political issues that we're grappling with in this country wright now are there in tk. i ju think in a lot of cases there's a combination of poetry and interest on the part of the artist in infusing that content with aesthetic decisions, decisions around paint color, material. >> for us, i think we ho when people come to see the exhibition that they find it engaging, thathey find it an interesting and illuminating experience to move through the galleries, but also that perhapt it helm to reframe some of their thinking around some of the most difficult issues of our time. b wn: the biennial exhibition is up through september 22.pb for thnewshour, i'm jeffrey brown at the whitney
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tonight on kqed newsroom. from health care to civights democratic presidential hopefuls got to make their pitches. also shocking detention conditions for migrant children emerge as appeals for borditarian aid at the divide democrats. and the supreme court ends its term. we'll look at how key rulin this week could affect california. hell and welcome. we begin our showith the democratic debates. this week millions of viewers tuned in for their first extended look at the crowded democratic primary field. the debate featured 20 candidates. last night senator kamala harris attacked former vice presijont e biden for his comments on bussing and working with