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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: one o one. at a dangerous moment in the persian gulf, a conversation with the iranian feign minister mohammad zarif. then, the triple-digit threat. as a blistering heat wave ankets the u.s., what ca communities do to prevent loss of life in a warming world? plus, "apollo 11" at 50. half a century after neil armstrong took one small step, nasa looks to the future for its next giant leap. >> the moon is a proving ground for a sustainable human presence on the next destination, which is mars.
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>> woodruff: and it's friday. mark shields and david bros analyze president trump's attack against four congresswomen of color and the brewing fight over health care in the democratic primary. all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> text night and day. >> catch it on replae >> burning st. >> sharing the latest viral cat! >> you can do the things you like to do with a wireless plan designed for you.t with talk, texand data. consumer cellular. learn more at >> f raymond james.s firm f >> theord foundation. working with visionaries on the frontlines of sociid change
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worl >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions: and friends of the newshour. >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: tensions in the persian gulf have escalated sharply today-- with reports of britain says one was british- flagged. the other was a liberian-flagged ship, operated by a british concern. n the vessels were stoppede strait of hormuz and diverted to
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iranian waters. earlier, iranian officials also deni that the u.s. warship "boxer" destroyed an iranian drone yesterday. we'll hear from nian's foreign er mohammed javad zarif, right after the news sumry. president trump is now defending his supporters who targetegr democratic cswoman ilhan omar this week. they chanted "send her back" at a trump campaign ralnorth carolina. omar ce to the u.s. from somalia as a child, and is now a u.s. citizen. yesterday, mr. trump sad he was not happy with the chants. day, at an "apollo 11" anniversary event in the oval office, he wt after omar again, and rejected criticism of the crowd. >> those are incredible people, those are incredible patriots, but i'm unhappy when a congresswoman goes and says, "i'm going to be the president's nightmare."g she's go be the president's nightmare. she's lucky to be where she is,
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let me tell you. and the things that she has said are a disgrace to our country. >> woodruff: yesterday, omarhe saidelieves the president is a fascist, and that thes confrontation come a fight over "what this country truly should be". three more white supremacists were sentenced today forg attackunter-protesters at a 2017 rally in charlottesville, virginia. ntences ran from two to three years. ae men pleaded guilty to riot charges for punchi choking their opponents. seall were members of the above movement-- a group known for training in martial arts and inciting violence at rallies in california. in chicago, a police oversig board has fired four officers in connection with the of a black teenager, laquan mcdonald. thboard found they made or approved false statements about the killing. a white officer-- jason van dyke-- shot the 17-year-old
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mcdonald 16 times-- in 2014. van dyke was convicted of second-degree murder and is now in prison. the u.s. justice department today announced the early release of more than 3,000 federal prisoners. it is part of a new criminal justice law that eases mandatory sentences imposed for drug crimes and other offenses. >> in terms of the range of people who have been released, the largest number are drug offenders, the second group are weapons and explosives and the third group are sex offenders,ve but there's wide range of people who are being released. >> woodruff: the18 are currently 000 inmates in the federal atison system. a ave spread misery across more of the country today,in putemperatures to near 100 degrees in washington, new york, another cities. the blanket of heat and humidity now extends from kansas to the east coa, and forecasters say temperatures will climb even higher over the weekend.
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we'll look at what's driving this warm-up, later in the program. in germany, thousands of young people protested in berlin, demanding action to stop ear's climate from overheating. 16-year-old swedish activist greta thunberg spoke to the crowd,nd urged older generations to take responsibility. >> we young people are not the ones who a going to save the world. there is simply not enough time to wait for us to grow up and become the ones in charge. because this needs to happen now. and it has gone so far tt young people feel like they must sacrifice their own education in order to protest against the destruction of their future. >> woodruff: separately, german chancellor angela merkel defended her government's efforts, and pledged decisive action. germany aims by 2030 to cut greenhouse gas emissions 55% from 1990 levels.
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back in this cntry, president ump says he will nominate corporate lawyer eugene scalia be u.s. secretary of labor. he is the son of the late supreme court justice, antonin scalia. today was alexander acosta's last day as labor secretary. he resigned over a plea deal he once arranged with jeffrey epstein,n allegations of sexually abusing teen-age girls. wall street finished the week on a down note. the dow jones industrial average lost 68 points to close at 27,154. the nasdaq fell 60 points and the s&p 500 slipped 18. still to come on the newshour: sitting down with the iran's foreign minister as tensions escalate between his country and the u.s. the threat to human lifes a triple-digit heat wave rolls across the country. fifty years after we put a human on the moon, what does the future of space exploration look like?
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mark shields and david brooks break down another packed week of political news. plus, much more. >> woodruff: we return to the confrontation between the u.s. and iran.ea ier we reported that iran seized at least one ship in the strategic strait of hormuz, roiling the already turbulent waters of the persian gulf. si he left the white house this afternoon, the pnt again had tough words for tehran. >> iran's in big trouble right now. their economy is coming to a crash. they're trying to bring soldiers back home because they can't pay 'em. a lot of bad things are happening to the and it's very easy to straighten out, and it't very easy for make it a lot worse. >> woodruff: before,mr. trump
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spnd before news came of the ship seizures, i sat down with iran's foreign minister, javad zarif.f he was onee principal negotiators of the 2015 nuclear deal with the u.s. and other world powers, which prident trump pulled out of last year.on now, zarif iof the public faces of the islamic republic's pushback against the united states and its so-called maximum pressure campaign of renewed and increased sanctions, aimed at forcing iran back to the negotiating table. we spoke at the residence of iran's ambassador to the u.n., in new york. minister zarif, thank you very much for talking with us. >> good to be with you again. >> woodruff: let's start with the downing yesterday by the united states of the iranian drone in the strait of ho -- hormuz. president trump says this is the latest in a series of provokt d hostile acts by iran. ls that how you see it? >> first of to the best of
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our information, we didn't lose any dronesesterday, so it doesn't look like they shot one of our drones. maybe they shot of their drones, the report says they shot probably somebody else's drones. but provocative? even if it were our drone, we are in our own neighborhood. the u.s. naval vess is about 6,000 miles away from its shores, so i would ask you who's being provocative. >> woodruff: the trump admini is that the u.s. is not looking for war with iran. the do you -- do you believe th? >> well, we didn't come to the gulf of mexico. they came erto thean gulf. now they have to watch that they should not undermine our sovereignty, our territorial integrity or our security. and then we won't have a war. >> woodruff: you have beenyi
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this week, mr. minister, that if the u.s. -- that if ira may be prepared to change the course of your uranium enrichmee'. >> no, not. we're not. we have an agreement that we negotiated with the unite states. it doesn't matter whichnt governf the united states because the outside world considers the government sitting in washington as represeing the united states. there is a provision in the current agreement that is, in 2023, we're supposed to ratify the additional protocol which requires us to put all our facilities under u.n. inspections for life -- that would be permanent -- andd it woso require the united states to lift its sanctions by congress permanently. that is a provision that we already negotiated. he wants to doetter?
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he can implement that provision right now and rthest assureat iran would never produce nuclear weapons. if that is his objective, he can do it now, 2023. we are prepared to bring that forward. we need to go to our parliament, our parliament needs to ratify it. we could bring it forward so that president trump could make history by making sure that the relations between the two countries would shank forever. >> woodruff: so -- but there's no indication right nat president trump will do that. >> because the motto is what's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable. that won't work. >> woodruff: there's no evidence president trump is inclined to do that unless you have information we don't have. >> i'm n interested in what h is inclined to do, i'm interested in what the united states must do as a responsible player in the international i'm sure president trump wants to leave a legacy of a
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law-abiding country, not a country that breaks treaties. >> woodruff: mr. minister, haen americans who believe with you tt the trump administration is wrong to withdraw from the 2015 agreement ask why is iranenriching uranium beyond the cap? why does iran need to do this? >> we don't need to do that. we have a provision in the agreement that, if one side does not fulfill its oblations, the other side may, within the agreement,educe its commitments. if the united states and if the europeans don't fulfill their obligations, then we have the right, that's a remedy. because, you know, the nuclear deal was not based on the nuclear as based on total mistrust. we did not trust the othder sie, the other side did not trust us, let's be fair.t >> woodruff: he american
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people lookt at iran, they hear president ump saying this is the world's greatest threat right now, your country, they hear that you are enriching uranium, you're on your way to nuclear weapons, why should they relax? >> had we wanted to build a nuclear weapon, we would have built it during the time we paid for it from 2005 to013, we actually paid many times in internatnal isolation and international pressure, in sanctions. but if he says we are the greatest threat tod the uni states and to its national peace, just ask him who is bombing yemen? who is imprisoning the prime minister of lebanon? so if you want to look for malign behavior, if you want to look for a threat, you look at saudi arabia. >> woodruff: you mentioned yemen. clearly, that terrible war has been going on for years, the
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saudisre involved, the houthi rebels have a connection, clearly, with iran, we no know the u.a.e. are withdrawing most of their forces. coulthis be a moment for se sort of breakthrough there? >> we've had many moments toend the war in yemen. saudis, unfortunately, believe that they could wiis war militarily within weeks. we can end it now, it just takes one cognive transformation, this war canno be won militarily. we have diplomatic relations with the u.a.e. so we're prepared to meet them and the saudis. we can meet at anytime, it requires a acceptance of the reality that we need provide our own security regionally and we cannot purchase secity from outside. >> woodruff: and what does that mean practically? >> practically means we ned to work together rather than against each other.
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>> woodruff: and could this be a mome for that to happen? >> it can. >> woodruff: is there some tangible evidence? >> not yet, not with saudi arabia. >> woodruff: you're saying at this moment, there is no tangible movement inthat direction? >> because, unfortunately, they see that the united states even supports them literally with murder. they can get away with murder and still get the support of the united states and we all saw how it happened. >> woodruff: yu just said iran is prepared to sign a nonaggression statement. at the samtime, we know that iran is still supporting working with a number of armed nonstate groups, militaries across the region. why is this ctinuing? why does iran need to work with these groups that are creating violence in so many countries? >> actuay, we work with groups that are defending thehemselves.
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it'snited states allies who are working with groups that promote violence. we work with ople, support people, as everybody should, whe arending their territorial integrity, wre fighting occupation and fighting adregs. >> woodruff: syria why is iran still supporting the syrian regime which has killed its own people and used chemical weapons on them? >> we have said time and again at we are in syria, cooperating i.s. the decision about who should rule syria is not ours, is not yours, that decision is sole a decision that should be made by the people of syria. the united states wanted to pre-determine that bashar will not be running the election. but if you believe that he is such a butcher that is killing
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his people, then why do you mind if he runs in election? he will be voted out by the people. you should only make sure that you have a free and fair election, and that's what we have been calling for. >> woodruff: you beleve, -- you believe mr. assad will allow a democratic process to go forward of free and fair ntry?ions in that cou >> i think he will and i think we all should help. >> woodruff: do you think the evidence of wh he's done t his own people doesn't undermine that? >> his own people will decide. it's not for us to decide. it's for his own peop to decide, and i believe always, at the end of the day, peoplere the best judge. >> woodruff: but won't he be choosing who participates in the process? >> we can make sure that the process is free and fair, tha st d from the beginning and we continue to say that. is holdingf: iran at least six americans, detaining six americans. why is iran holdi them?
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>> the united states is detaining many iraians who have not committed any crime. the united states is pushing other co duntries toain iranians who have only violated u.s. sations. i called for a comprehensive exchange. rtunately, the united states is not prepared to do that. iran showed its good faith by releasing one, the united states has not reciprocated. so i believe the problem is in washington, not in iran >> woodruff: what will it take to release the american? >> i cannot get involved if it's just a one-sided situation because our judiciary iens indet and they will make their own decision. but if there is an exchange,th i can get involved. >> woodruff: if there's one message you want the american
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peoplenmrom the govt of iran, what is it? >> the government of iran does nt want to conflict. all we want is foo one to intervene in our affairs. i think that's something th the american people could easily understand. the americans did not want others to intervene in their affairs, that's why they had thv american rution. we do not want others to intervene in our affairs. th's all. >> woodruff: foreign minister javad zarif, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: with temperatures across the u.s. and around the globe setting record highs this week, william brangham looks at what science tellss about where we could be headed. >> brangham: that's right, judy. last month was the hottest june on record, going back 139 years, according to nasa. and today, half-way into july, the nation weather service forecasts potentially deadly temperatures through the weekend, across mu of the u.s.
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this week, a study by the union of concerned scientists warned daat the number of extreme heat could more than double by mid-century-- just 30 years away-- if we don't change how much of those heat-trapping gasses we emit. for more on where we are-- and where we might be going-- i'm joined by astrid caldas. she's a senior cmate scientist at the union of concerned scientists. welcome. >> thank you. e skeptics are going tolo say,ok, it's summertime, of course it's hot. what can you say -- what does the science say about this particular kind of app -- a heatwave over the united states. >> this particular heatwave is due to a meteorological phenomenon happening in the atmosphere, so this can happen independently climate change. however, the heat dome leading to this heatwave is trapping warmer air because, as we know,
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the last 18 years, all the years in this ctury have been record-breaking years in terms of warming. so the thermometer ng up, temperatures are going up, so the heatwavesare liky going up, also. >> reporter:i and ts trend of more, longer and hotter heatwaves is what the climate models have procted. that is what we are seeing. >> that's correct. we are seeing more xtreme heat days, more consecutive extreme heat days and we are slated to see a lot more of these extreme heat days, as you said, if we
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are getting air conditioners. seattleot big boom in the sales of air conditioning. >> reporter: seattle, washington. >> yes, seattle washington. areas that never had air conditioning histically are getting so hot before buying air cos itioning. thts a strain on our power grid that makes the power grid emit more because we're using electricity so there are more emissions, and in addition the substances used in the refrigerators and the air air conditioners, the coolants are both greenhouse gases and
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contributing tohe global warming. so more air conditioning, more emissions, more global warming, need more air conditioning again, and that goes on and on and on. >> reporter: the snake swallows its tail. y>> absolutely, it's ver tricky. >> astrid caldas of t union of oncerned scientists, thank you. >> thank you, william. >> woodruff: tomorrow marks the 50th anversary of humans first setting foot on the moon. it's being commemorated in many places this weekend including at the washington monument and atme the whithouse, where president trump welcomed the two living o membethe "apollo 11" crew today. buzz aldrin, michael collins, ad the president discusse new push to go the far side ofpu the moon and beyond. other countries have their own efforts under way. china, which landed a robotic
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rover on the moon this year, and india are working toward manned missions. tonight, we look at nasa'spl ans-- and how a much morew ambitious private sector fits in. naturally, miles o'brien is our guide for this report about the "leading edge" of science. >> lift-off! >> o'brien: by definition,io anniversaries are all about looking back and reliving the glory days. it's one small step for man,, one giant leap for nkind. >> o'brien: and this week we have been doing a lot of that as we mark the fiftieth anniversary of the first moon landing. >> and lift-off at dawn. the dawn of orion.e and a new era of american space a ploration. >> o'brien: but nnts to point the lens toward the future. the hope: once the golden niversary passes, americans will put some gold into a moon shot for another generation-- one that looksike this:
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the rocket is called the space launch system-- and is even larger than the mighty "saturn v"-- the rocket that cried apollo missions to the moon. sitting atop the s.l.s. is the orion crew capsule-- al larger the apollo command module. president trump directed nasa to return to the moon-- at first by vi28. but this spring president mike pence moved that timeframe to 2024-- citing concerns over china's ace ambitions. >> now, make no mistake about it. we're in a space race today, just as we were in the 1960s,96 and the stakes are higher. >> o'brien: but some in the space community aren't as worried about china. men so, most remain eager to see the revival ofanned missions. orion would dock at a mini spac station called gateway tt would orbit the moon. from there, the crew would fly a lunaer to the surface. the new moon project is called
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artemis, named for the twin sister of the greek gollo. >> the moon is a proving ground for a sustainable hun presencest on the next destination which is mars. >> o'brien: nasa administrator gem bridenstine says the b picture for the trump administration is even more ambitious: a sustained human presence on the moon using6 that lunar base to learn better how to design an outpost on mars. >> think of it as a reusable command and serviceodule that is permanently in orbit aroundor the moon. so, the purpose of the gateway is about lunar activities. but the next gateway is about deep space exploration and maybt the third gateway is the journey to mars. >> o'brien: some experts think a ntturn mission to the moon by the u.s. governis unnecessary. president trump has his owns s doubout going there which he reiterated today while meeting with the original apollo crew. but many agree with the
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>> anywhere going directly without landing on the moon, a possibility? >> many agree with the overarching role to send men to the mars, including michaelha collins one of the member of the apollo 11 crew that firstt land on the moon 50 yea ago this week. >> i wld say mars should be i our goal. do we have to be in a hurry to get to mars? no, i don't think so. i would not put it on an expedited basis the same way that "apollo" was an expeditedxp national program. but it should be definitely where we want to go, ouldto be our target, our destination. >> o'brien: for now, the realities are sobering.s orion and the s.l.s. rocket are ars behind schedule, billions heer budget. the price tag forrtemis project would be large. bridenstine sayit would cost $20 to $30 billion. the spacagency is only set to get an additional $1.5 billion
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next year.t early enough. or are they going to ask10 billion extra next year? i mean it's just hard to imagine a realistic scenario. >> o'ien: lori garver served as nasa's deputy administrator during the obama administration. she says money is a big part of the reason she doesn't support an apollo-like program-- meaning tightly controlled by the space agency-- with cost plus contracts for the likes of boeing and lockheed martin. >> i would love for humanity toi be on the moon and mars. but is not up to the feder government to pay hundreds of billions of dollars to do that. e is is not something the government shoulding because the private sector is investing their own money in very large launch vehicles. >> o'brien: garver says the government is pushinto do thego work, not just because of exploration, but because jobs are attake. even as nasa pushes forward, the
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private sector pushes faster. amazon founder jeff bezois financing a space explotion company called blue origin. he has expressed interest in building a lunar lander. and the largest private sector player, elon musk's spacex, is building its own rocket and capsule to get to the moon-- musk claims by 2023, a year before nasa's current deadline. garver, who is now cha of an initiative called the earthrise alliance, which advocates using space technology to help solve the climate crisis.ay she sthat should be the priority. >> i think what nasa couldo and should do over the next fewd years is more investment inex addressing thtential threat which is climate change. lives are going to be lost and hurt in the next decades if we don't do it. >> o'brien: there is one chan coming to this lunar programam that is universally applauded-- nasa is promising the next human
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to leave a footstep on the moon will be a woman.e thace race in the '60s was all white and all maleleaving minorities and women >> it's upsetting frankly to think about how many women werea discrid against in the early years of spaceflight. until the space station, we've never had more than 50% or morea participation. i'd be thrilled with the next 12 people on the moon being women.i >> o'brien: fifty years ago, the space race was the centerpiece battle of the cold war.t support was bipartisan-- and the big money kept flowing. idat was then. it's hard to finence that this is also now. for the pbs newshour, i'm miles o'brien.
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>> woodruff: democrats werethf: unifie week in their swift condemnation of president trump's racist tweets. but, as lisa desjardins reports, a new rift among presidential candidates played out on the 2020 campaign trail. >> we believe that health care is a human right. >> desjardins: on the trail, the political heat this week has been over health care and a policy duebetween former vice president joe biden and vermont senator bernie sanders. in waukee, iowa, biden unveiled a health care plan that would keep and expand the affordable care act, or obamacare. >> my proposal is we take obamacare, and we build on the t parts that have been taken away, and we add a public option, which means that anyone who has their employer-based alth insurance they like, they can keep it.
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who sharply fired back with this ad and a graphic saying bidenin has been lying about medicare for all. speaking at george washington university in the nation's capital, sanders made his pitch for universale. c >> every family in america would >> every family in america would receive comprehensive ge, all basic health care needs are covered. and in the process, middle-class families would save thousands of dollars a year by eliminang their private insurance costs as we move to a publicly funded program. >> desjardins: as they battle on policy, campaigns are also tallying up the fundraising fight. from april through june, south bend, indiana mayor pete buttigieg led the pack raising $24.8 million. three others-- biden, sanders,th and his fellow senator elizabeth warren --were not far behind. california senator kamala harris
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brought in less, but still washe way ahead ofest of thehe crowded field. and candidates got their tickets for the second debate series. of the 24 democrats running for president, these 20 will be on stage next week in detroit. deere is one new face who wh the cut: montana governor steve ldllock. it is a wide fibut appears unified on one front this week: the pridents tweets tellinget four congresswomen of color to "go back to where they came from." >> ss behavior and his commes are disgusting. they're racist. >> the current president of the united states has defiled thefi of the president of the united states.ta >> it's racist. and moly it's not what you want our president to be. >> today president trump said democrats are the ones dividing this country,ng again poin to the freshmen congresswomen. >> what they've said is a disgrace to them, to the democrats and, frankly,o our country.e
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>> thete continues outside of the president left town for thee end. i'm lisa desjardins. >> woodruff: and that brings us to the analysis of shields and cooks. that's syndicatumnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks.h hello to b you. >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: so let's go back to these attacks by the president. they've now lasted a full week onnkth the democratic congresswomen, all members, alls women of color. he has called them aof variety names and he's told them, david, to go back to their countries. their home countries. of course,ou they're all u.s.ns citithree of them were born in the united states.un what does all this tell us abou president trump, about thesef women memberngress, about our country and what does it say about racism? >> well, it's racist.t. let's get that off the top, an examplef it. trump has a certain vision of
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what america is, and in his vision america is yiewn phobic -- xenophobic.op the people of the heartland are threatened by monals and people that don't look like them. t is a vision that is nostalgic, lookick to the past, and a vision of white america that whites created this country and the rest ofs are here by their suffering, and this is the national story he wants to tell, a i i think's up to the rest of us to tell th stout america.ri we're are a country defined by f outure, not our fast and traditionally crossed frontiers as assion.on we have a mission to create a massic mutural democracy where people of all races can be united in one democratic process, and that is a hard h thing to do, but donald tmp is pointing us in the exactt opposite direction. >> woodruff: how to you see all this?? >> i see it probably less cosmically than david, though i agree totally with historical and philosophical perspective.
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i don't think donald trump has a vision. i think he s a vision of the campaign. what donald trump wants to do, richard nixon, who alng with franklin roosevelt, only two americans have run five times for national office and won four times. pick ar vice presidential runnii mater helps, always hurtsts you, because you are eitherr explaining or defendingr apologizing for what that vice presidential no, ma'am snee ine said that morning portland or peoria, the case for the prosecution sarah palin for john mccain. and what donald trump is trying to do in cynical and callousus fashion and david is right a.p. about the racist implications oi it is to marry these four freshmen member to make themm the running mate, whoever the democratic nominee is, a the democratic nominee would then have to -- the four of them wouldpeak very blunt about it, like donald trump, are hilo tropic plants.
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heliotropic plants, sunflowers, turn to get the sun's race. these four women have a f gift seeking cameras and microphones and winning that attention, jst as donald trump did. so that's what he wants to. do they have gotten there by saying terribly controversialov things, byg criticizheir own party leadership, an that's what donald trump wants to do, to oever the democratic nomineee is. he knows, if the election of 2020 is a repled referendumdu on him and his fails, americanic do not like him, d not trust him, do not respect him, they do not think he is an object of inspiration or in any way to n,em, their child then he loses, but he has to make it about something other than himself. >> woodruff: but, david, does this help the president?nt i'm asking in part because we watched cross section of republican reaction that somee republicanser were critical. a few. a number embraced him.
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but they're quiet. >> there are afew these are on how donald trump can win thiss election but they're based on ip donald trave to win over people who do not like me, because most don like donald trump. one theory is he drives the democratic party so far left that most people feel they ha no choice but to vote for donaln trump. >> 72. and byttacking the squad, he forces the d. j. party to embrace "the squad" and "tbe" squadmes testify voice of the democratic party for at least a week, that's one theory. the second theory is i don't like donald trump but i like this economy, and that theory is you lay low and just let the economy do your speaking forg you. not rdonalds trump's style, so he's going with this. do i feel it will end up working? no. because fundamentally the vast majority of america likes a diverse country, abhor racism,sm so it may work withal a base, but i think, on balance,an the evidence is very clear the mass majority of the country finds it >> woodruff: well, he had a
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crowd behind him this week in north carolina, north america. >> he did. he was with the crowd and he was against the crowd. now he's backith the crowd,wd we'ce learned most ly. judy, the vote for president is us most personal vote any of americans cast. we're far more apt to cast a vote based on w issues,ether the economy, immigration, ther environment, the unitedni states senator for bupresident of the united states, we have information overload. we have a feelma for who these people are as individuals and whether we like or tust them. donald trump is presiding overng the greatest econom employmentlo terms, in the history of any american under the age of 68. you could say 50 years ago, ita wast good. it's a peacetime economy, a remarkable thing. yetdy, we sit here tonight and 13% of americans say they're oftspired by what he says, and half of americans say they're never inspired. americans do not trust him.
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i mean, one-third think he'ss honest and trustworthy.s donald trump has to make this election not about him. if it's about him, it's a referendum on him and his qualities, the americans have already decided they don't --- he's never in a sing daily of his presidency had a marity of americans say they approve of o him. with this greatest economy ever. so, i mean, if he was smart he wold withdraw and go to ground zero and say look at the economy, i've done it,ki w on it, that's all i'm doing. he can't, heno cno >> it's worth pointing out in a analysis tod on how the electoral college could differ from the actual and the analysis is trump could lose the popular vote by 5 percentage points which is wayh more than the 2.8 he lost last time and still carry the electoral college. >> woodruff:he president managed to overshadow a dispute
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between "the squad" and speaker pelosi, but s alsodow what the democrats running against him are saying on the campaign trail. david, there was one disputepu among these candidates that ida want to ask the two of you about and th's on healthcare. bernie sanders is out thereve saying let's to single pair, doubling down on that, saying that's the way we take re of all you have al gore doubling down on obamacare. what does this add up to? >> yeah, joe biden was --wh >> woodruff: did i b say?? you said al gore. he's running, too? >> woodruff: overshadowed, but not that much.c joe biden. >> joe biden. you know, i, of course, thinkrs joe biden's policy is a betterr policy and politically it's better becau i don't think 170 million americans with their private insurance plans are going toveant to ghat up and i happen to think that's a death nail for any democratice. candid to me, thera interesting questin can be forn democrats to say,
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hey, all we've got be isis neutral to beat this guy, let's be new central and let's not g carried away, and that would be a very rational way to condu this campaign, let donald trump kill himself and lte not be it's not in the spirit of the democratic party.te the ational fervor is with warren and "the squa" it will be interesting to see if anybody can carry off a campaign that says let's not get carried way. to me it doesn't feel that kind of a year but year where fervor will beat >> woodruff: what do you see here? jonathanthoint out martin, david's paper today, oke aboutven democratic governors who won in 2018 who are quite upset, exercised about the theme, the direction, the passion of these democrats. david mentioned the -- >> woodruff: but they're moving to the left. >> they're moving to the left,
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and i think the consensus, certainly my own was and democrats i talked to aft first debate, was also one. very few who are b cheered it, who's objective and operating principal w nominate ago candidate who could defeatd donald trump and be a good predent at the same time. so you look at this, judy, and n you have to say that you just won an election in 2018, it was a congressional election, that healthcareas the dominantan issue. and john boehner, republicanofub speakehe house, 20 years of house of representatives, freed of all obligations, said in 25 years in the house, nevern oncll the years i worked on it did the republicans ever come up with a single healthcare plan, and he's absolutely right. there was never a consensus republican healthcare plan. there wasea minute 2017,203,
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2019. so the point was the democratsat can't give it away. this is the issue.. they are the ones who were fitohting protect pre-existing ndition for voters. >> woodruff: andr you're saying that's what bernie sanders -- - >> i think that's exactly wha democrats do. you talk about winning the states david mentioned, thoseen are the states the two haveng stabor union memberships. labor unions have won for their member schist, auto workers,, steel, they've won great healthcare you start the ection by sayingin we're going to get rid of, these 170 million americans, you're not going to have it, you're going to have better system. come on, is this l+2sr:urh and plausible? >> it's striking but the fervor withtr sanders, ites me this whole week that pelosi versusth scwawd -- sqd and sandersrs versus bynes. pelosi basically grew up in at
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e where you worked within the system. there's a system here, you have to compromise and dialogue andd get what you can.. the question is not what i want but how much i'm getting. i a lot of people are saying i'm blowing up the system, and frankly donald trump on the righis a little ofru that, "theh squad" is certainly that, and bernie sanders is certainly that, and i wa very struck about how tough sanders went after called a liar,s, which he w, and he was not a lier in that case. >> woodruff: we are watching it and need to be talking aboutw these democratic candidatesda because they've got another k andd coming up next w we're going to be looking at that david brooks, mark shields, a thank you both.ot >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: the band, the black keys, debuted its first album in five years recently at theof number one spohe u.s.
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album chart. its vocalist and guitarist dan auerbach has also been making a name for himself in recent yearm in another setting. s ffrey brown visited him in nashville recentlypart of our ongoing ts and culture series, canvas. >> the idea here is to be able to see everyone, and make eye contact. i can even see the singer in the other room over there. >> brown: eclectic,ctional, ceand intimate: it's a spa thatt seems to sum up dan auerbach's philosophy for making music. ♪ be auerbach i known as one half of the two-man rock band, the black keys. as well as for his solo work. ♪ so but he's alade a mark as aod record er, as head of the label, easy eye sound, based here at his studio in nashville. it's a nondescript building-- a former call center-- but now the
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source of nearly a dozen albums in the past two years >> that drum booth, i set it up after muscle shoals sound. >> brown: it combines features of med recording studiosdi auerbach loves, such as muscleab shoals iama, a 1970s mecca for soul, blues, and rock. >> i did a lot of investigating, i went to memphis, and new york city, and l., and visited the classic rooms, and talked to the classic console makers.o andhis studio is hand- picked down to the wire, you know what i mean? every little part of it. and it's completely unique, and there's no other studio in the world like it. >> brown: every piece of vintage gear works. it's fully wired, ready to record-- multiple keyboards, four sets of drums, dozens of guitars. >> i used this one on of the very first black keys recordings ever made. each one of these has history,aa
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andone has its own sound. it's like having a toolbox full of different tools. >> brown: but tools alone, auerbach says, aren't enough to replicate what he calls "the famous music factories." >> i think when you start, you are attracted by all the lights, and all the faders, and all the knobs, and then when you get down to it, you realize it's moutly just the musicians, know? >> brown: but then, we're in aio sturrounded by instruments, and gear. >> well, this is a city wherepl peoknow how to play them, >> brown: that's why auerbach started easy eye here, in 2017, by hauling some of nashville's best session musicians out of retirement. ♪ including billy sanford, whof created onee most famous riffs in rock history for roys orbison's hit "pretty woman". ♪ pretty woman
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yeah, i think everybody knows that. but that's you, huh? y >> that's me and two other guitar players. ♪ >> brown: the easy eye house band now includes sanford and keyard player bobby wood: renowned session musicians who can improvise, collaborate, learn a part quickly, and record six to eight songs in a day. >> you never know what's coming next. but, that's good, that keeps you on your toes. ♪ >> brown: here, everyone sits side-by-side like the old days of recording, sanford says. very different from the way many studios now record vocalists anl musicians, in isolation, mixing it all together in post production. >> the main thing is all the players are here. you're not lookinsome guy doing some guitar work here in nashville, and then sending it
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off to l.a. or somewhere else, or, and then a record, you know, i think you miss the heartbeat of a record unless everybody isf playing together at the same time. >> brown: i asked auerbach ifd he'd set out to preserve something important being lost. >> i don't feel like a preservationist, i feel like everything we're doing is new. i don't want to, we don't cutol songs here, we cut new songs. i just want to make something i'm proud of, and make something that feels like the records thae i love,ecords that i just want to live with, forever. ♪ >> brown: that's meant a variety of genres and arowing portfolio of rising artists, incding yola, shannon shaw, robert finley, and 21-year-old dee white.
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♪ white, from slapout, alabam had barely started singing when he was brought in by a mutualai actance. the two clicked, and that led to days of intensive songwriting followed, quickly, by a recording session with special gusts like alison krauss stopping by to sing harmony. >> part of the reason that this is such a blessing for me, is there hasn't been any kind of molding, or shaping of what i should be doing, musically. i feel like that is something hat a lot of people who come to town face. >> brn: you mean trying to pu you into a certain box, or--? >> yeah, you know,s far as aea sound, or whatever, and i feel like a lot of people have to compromise in some ways, and ine ver had to do that, you know, >> brown: easy eye sound has
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signed ten artis so far with several high-profile announcements expected in theth coming months. and, for long-time black keys fans: the new album was recorded is r recently. sohis like the long term, sustainable way of life, is that what you're building? >> well, if you talk to my accountant, he'd probably tellbu you noi mean, in my heart, i believe that this is what i'm' supposed to be doing. >> brown: a blend of old and new-- one song at a time. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown in nashville. ♪ >> woodruff: jeff gets all the good assignments. >> woodruff: two men are inside the report. it's a pbs "newshour" special, a 30 minute deep dive into what is in the muellerrt re ahead of the special counsel's appearance and testimony next week on capitol hl. check your local listings to see
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