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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> nawaz: good evening. i'm amna nawaz. judy woodruff is away. on the "newshour" tonight, a political storm-- a massive wave of protests rocks puerto rico as residents ek to force the resignation of the island's scandal-plagued governor. then amy walter and tamara keith break down the competing visions for health care shapinthe democratic primary, and the continuing fallout fro president trump's racist tweets. plus 100 years of harlem: new york's fabled neighborhood. through the lens and on the nvas-- and now on display in a gallery exhibit. n. the art was important t in creating a new visual lexicon for african-americans against histories of dehumanizing and degrading stereotypes a imagery in the american popular imagination. >> nawaz: all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour."
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>> this program was made possible by the rporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> nawaz: massive protests filled the streets and h shways arou juan, puerto rico today. the marches have grown for almost two weeks now. even as the heat index topped 100 degrees there today, crowds effectivelshut down major portions of the city. and they prevented cruise boatsr which brinial tourist business, from docking. as of this hour, the island'srn go is refusing to resign, triggering a political crisis on top of an economic o.
demonstrations across puerto rico today swelled into the hundreds of thousands, one of the largest protests the island has ever seen. their immediate target: governor ricardo rossello.ed >> ( transl ): i decided to come to be with the people, because we are tired. the people are tired. it's been years e d years and people have awoken. >> reporter: it's the latest in a series of protests calling for rossello to stepown. at times, there has been sporadic violence wi riot police, but no known deaths. rossello tried to address the unrest in a facebook video yesterday, saying he would give up his role as presif his party and would not seek re-ex electionyear. but he stopped short of resigning. >> ( translated ): i recognize that apologizing is not enough. only my work will he restore the trust of these sectors and forge a path towar reconciliation. in the face of this scenario, in am annouthat i will not seek re-election as governor next year. >> reporter: protesters said he had not gone far enoug
>> ( translated ): it's one more demonstration of therrogance of the governor that he doesn't e nt to recognize the failure of what's taking pld the demonstration of the people who are demanding his resignation. we've been asking for his resignation for 12 days already, d he is trying to give a candy to those in his party, offering to give up the presidency and the candidature in 2020 so that they allow him to remain through the year and half that he has left. that's not acceptable. rossello was asked about the protests by fox news's shepherd smith. >> today e largest demonstration potentially in the history of the island and you stand with firm resolve and talk about accomplishments. do you hear them? >> i hear them, and it'fs part my introspection, and i will continue to hear them. ly continue to make my decisions of work with the people puerto rico. >> nawaz: the public outrage was set off by a leak offe ive online chat messages between rossello and his aides. the nearly 900-page document
published by puerto rico's center for investigative journalism exposed privateng messages mocomen, guy people, and even hurricane victims. the targets alsod inclu political opponents and the island's financial oversight board. thscandal broke as federal corruption charges were leveled against six members of his administration, and it h led to the resignation of others. president trump, who has frequently criticized the u.s. territory's government, weighed in today. >> you have totally, grossly incompetent leadheship at t top of puerto rico.is the monequandered and wasted and stolen. >> reporter: that criticism has been at art of the crisis. protests have tapped into resentment over the vernor's handling of hurricane maria in 2017 and the years of economic austerity measures the bankrupt island has faced. to talk about what's behind the protests, and where things stand this evening. i spoke a short time ago with adrian florido of npr, who was out with the prosters all day in san juan.
wi a us. so give ense, you were out there with the protesters today. who is outhere on the streets exactly and how did the governor's annncement that he will not resign go over? >> there is a wide swath of puerto ricans out on the ofstreets. a lo people who have been protesters around social issue for a long time, but even more ople who have never engaged in protests at all. that's one of the things that's been so fascinating about these protts that haveurged in the last week is a lot of the force has come ee these large sectors of society that have never been engaged in politics or political protests atll when the governor announced yesterday that he wasn't going to resign, people seemed to get even more angry, even more motivated to come out into the streets.th i thin's a big part of why we saw these massive numbers coming out today. >> nawaz: give us a sense of what you're hearing on the
ground now. what would i take, do you think, for the governor to step down? the economy is in trouble. tourism is taking a big hit. protesters aren't going anywhere. do you get the sensehat he thinks he can ride this out? >> well, i think he has the sense that he thinks he can ride this out, but it's really hard to hnderstand how has come to that conclusion, because he's lost almost all of his political support. there's really no one in puerto rico who supports him publicly. it's unclear whether people supporbut him privately, at least publicly no one is coming out. obviously a big part governing is having allies within the government, because you don't govern via dictate. you govern throu,gh legislati and no one in the legislature seems to be willing to stand bend him some a b question is whether he's going to be able to regain thatty credibi and all indications are that he's not. >> nawaz: when you talk to people on the groundhave taken to the streets, are protesting, are calling for him
to step down, what e they telling you? what specific grievances do they have that led them out to the streets today? >> the reasons for all the discontent if puerto -- in puero are nuanced and they go back for many years and decades even. some of the newer things are the economic crisis that puerto rico has beenin in 2006 when it descended into a recession it hasn't recovered from. the billions in debt puerto rico faces. austerity measures that have been imposed tbrail oversightbo d that are leading to the slashing of all kinds of public services. they'eave made ity hard for puerto ricans to just get by, forcing hundreds of thousands af people to for the united states over the last decade. and then, of course, the bungled response to hurricane hurricane, which inflicted a lot of damage and trauma on puerto ricans which they still haven't recovered from. all of those things are -- the traumas around those things, people have been trying to
ppress them and hol things together and just sort of moved forwy by day. they feel like they can't do it anymore, and that's why people are fed up. >> nawaz: adrian, you mentioned that oversight board. briefly explain to us, wh their role, and are members of that bored vulnerable now, as well? >> so the federal oversight board, which puerto ricans call the fiscal control board, is a body that the u.s. congress appointed a couple years ago take control of puerto rico's it out ofo try to get debt. it has been imposing austerity measures and itve's dpuerto ricans into the streets for may day protests everyirst of may. right now a lot of the focus is on the governor in part becausec of thets and what they revealed and people feeling like he's out of touch and he's got to gosh, but here people also are continuing to point out that the fiscal oversig board is also largely responsible for a lotf the austerity that is
making life a little more difficult for puerans here. >> nawaz: adrian, you mentioned the economic troubles of the islandve predaten the devastation caused by hurricane maria. is there any sensewthat a governor or a new government crowd step in and right that hip right now? >> that isa very complicated task here in puerto rico, in part because the puerto rican government only has -- the governor only has so much power, pecially right now this oversight board has a lot of the control of the purse stris. so in many instances, any governor of puerto rico has to get permission from this federally appointed, non-elected board to implement public policy. it's a very sort of complicated question, but it is one that puerto rico is going to have to figure out very soon. >> nawaz: adrn frido of npr joining us from san juan, puto rico. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me >> nawaz: in the day's other news, china condemned pro- democracy protests in ho kong and warned they are directly
blueprintingsre depect to include big increase for spending annse. the deal removes the possibility of government shutdowns for the foreseeable future. china condemned pro-democracy protests in hong kong and warned they are directly challenging the central government's authority. on sunday, more than 100,000 people marched in the streets ok hog. at night, some egged and spray- painted the chinese government's office. that incident touched a nerve in beijing. >> ( translated ): the behavior of some radical demonstrators has touched the bottom line of"o th country, two systems" principle and must not be tolerated.t we firmly suppe hong kong government in taking all necessary measures to ensure the safetyf the chinese central government's agencies in hong kong, defend hong kong's rule of w and punish criminals. >> nawaz: in a separate incident, at a subway station last night, a group of w assailantsring white attacked pro-democracy protesters dressed in black and
gray. at least 45 people were hurt. hong kong administrator carrie lam rejected allegations that police had colluded in the subway attack. iran said today itas arrested 17 iranian nationals accused of spying for the c.i.a. it said they worked at "sensitive" military and nuclear sites, and that wme have been sentenced to death. president trump said the claim is a lie. meanwhile, iranian state tv ared footage of the crew of british tanker seized last week at the mouth of the persian gulf.to they appearee unharmed. on afghanistan, president trump claimed the u.s. could win a full-scale war there in a week. he met with pakistan's prime nister imran khan, hopin pakistan will help broker an afghaann peace deal. he played up peace talks over more fighting. >> we've done what we were supposed to do, we've been there dir 19 years and we've acted as d licemen, not ss. again, if we wan be soldiers, we would have been out
of there in ten days, one week to ten days if we wanted to. but i have not chosen that, why would we kill millions of people? it wouldn't be fair, in terms of humanity it wouldn't be fair. >> nawaz: prime minister khan said he thinks the u.s. and taliban are closer to a peace deal than ever before. the president also said he's willing to mediate between india and pakistan in eir 70-year dispute over kashmir. he said india's prime minister had asked him about it, but india's foreign minister denied that. in east jerusalem: israeli crews began demolishing dozens of palestinian homes today in one of t largest operations of i kind in years. bulldozers tore through apartment buildings near the west bank/jerusalem divide. residents said the palestinian authority let them build there. the israeli military said the high-rise aparents pose a security threat because they are too close to the separation rrier with the west bank the death toll from monsoon floong across parts of india, nepal, and bangladesh rose to
more than 300 today. vast stretches of land are still under water, even as the rain has eased. that, in turn, is letting crews gain access to some of the hardest-hit areas-- to tally the damage and deaths.on south asia'son season typically runs from june until september. india's space agency successfully has launched an unmanned mission to the moon. a rocket carrying the spacecraft blasted off from southern indiy. to flight controllers celebrated the sequel to an oital flight to the moon, in 2008. this flight aims to land a rover on the far side of the moon, to explore water ice deposits at the lunar south pole. back in this country, retired supreme court justice john paul stevens was remembered with a special ceremony at the court. d last week at the age o 99. stevens' remains were brought to the court's great hall to lie in repose for the day. president trump was among those who paid their respects. former colleagues were also
there, including justice elena kagan, who succeeded stevens on e court. >> hwas a brilliant man with extraordinary legal gifts and talents which he combined with a deep devotion to the rule of law and a deep commitment to equal justice. >> nawaz: justice stevens will have a private burial tomorrow at arlington national cemetery. the credit rating agency "equifax" will pay up to $700 million dollars in a settment involving a huge da breach. today's announcement closes investigations by e federal trade commission and the consumer financial protection bureau-- plus nearly all 50 states. uifax acknowledged in 2017 that hackers gained access to social surity numbers and other personal data for nearly 150 million people. and on wall street today the dow jones industrial average gained points to close near 27,192. the nasdaq rose 57 points and
e s&p 500 added eight. and the statues have come to life-- sort of-- in belgium. it hosted europe's largest "living statue" festival this weekend. performers included a headless duo who danced with young attendees. a group known as "thmirror family," clad in gold and silver, showed off their moves. and "mister red" joined a long list of others entertaining the crowds. still to come on the "newshour," the bitter struggle for gay rights amid growing anti- l.g.b. sentiment in poland. revisiting the case of al franken, a year-and-a-half after the senator resigned in scandal. amy walter and tamara keith on the latest moves from the 2020 campaign trail m. plusuch more. a tide of hatred for l.q.
people in poland has alarmed officials there, and led the american ambassador to poland to denounce a conservatlish newspapers for stoking hatred in its campaign for so-called "l.g.b.t.-free zones." those fears were realized this weekend as a mob of right wing poles attacked pride march in the town of bialystok, one of several districts that haveve declared themsto be "l.g.b.t.- free." from bialystok in eastern poland, special corrent malcolm brabant reports. >> wearing anti-guy t-shirt, some hard-core right wingers were intent on violenc following their lead, thousands of people, includingenior citizens, lambasted marchers protesting against the sudden risef so-called lgbtq-free
zones among those they tried to intimidate, malgorzata mróz. >> it makes me sad that peopltee crhese l.g.b.t.-free zones in poland because me, as als bisexual andpolish person, i would really love to feel welcome in every single place in this country because i'm also >> reporter:he marchers were vastly outnumbered, and police protection was essential. gay activists claim they've replaced refugees as poland's main hated figures. >> i am scared a bit. i have tear gas with me. so yeah, as you can see, they basically shout "get the ( bleep ) out of here" to me and other people like me. so i can't feel welcome in my country. >> reporter: as the hostile mood intensified, the police struggled to defend stragglers separated from the main march. the mob set off in pursuit of one small group of gay pride campaigners seeking safety.
but they spotted police piing down a hardliner and the first skirmish of the afternoon began. poce arrested 30 people. onis exemplified the hatred and intolerance that crns the u.s. ambassador and the deputy mayor of warsaw, who compared it to the behavior of the nazis in the second world war. before the afternoon >> reporter: the issue of gay rights has been bthbling beneath surface in poland for years. but recently it's just exploded and gone to the forefront of the plitical agenda. and this issue hced poland into conflict with mainstream europe. when poland's populist law and justice party came to power in 2015, it declared ambitions to chiostianize the european unn. in towns like bialystok, they abhor what they regard as e mainstreope's decadent values. at parliament in warsaw, influential law and juste
politician zdzislaw krasnodebski said europe favored constitutions but was hypocritical whe poland. to >> our constitution in article 18 states the marriage is only between a man and a woman. nfor me it's very interesg that in this case there's no interest in what actuallour constitution is talking about. first lukasz marcinkiewicz, who is studying medicine in bialystok. >> it makes sad where we have a situation where we have two people, two men together or two women together, and they declare love for each other. there is no biological possibility for them to have a child. so i realize that this is not what families should look like. i strongly support the model o where there man, one woman and babies. >> ( translated ): we think that f g.b.t. movements have a very long tradition oofanity towards state symbols. they turned poland's national red-and-white flag into a white- inbow flag and desecrat
catholic and christian symbols. >> reporter: he has in hi d sightsiel rycharski, an artist who wears prayer beads made of the blood of homosexuals and who portrays saints as gay icon>> translated ): what is going on around the l.g.b.t. community appalls me. the fact that the governing party uses us as electoral fuel. because of the fact that the government wks closely with the church, and the church is its authority. thngcatholic church's teachi says it explicitly. you could say it has incited hatred against l.g.b.t. people. >> reporter: the anti-gay sermons of some priests are frequently rabid. the tone owieslaw dawidowski, who leads poland's order o saint augustine is not, bu he is unmoveable.
>> i would quote pope francis. i cannot judge people. if people want to live this way of live, all right. they live this way of life with full consequences. >> >> reporter: 30 miles ay from bialystok is rustic, god fearing kulesze koscielne where 90% voted for the ruling party. what's new isn't always good ant poland alwayd firmly on tradition, religion, right? >> i'd find some remote islands. i'd take gayen to one island, and lesbians to the other. let them live there. >> reporter: still inspired by the conservative vision of the late polish pope john paul ii, c the cathhurch is engaged in a battle for europe identity. >> this is a certain pivotal moment in our relationship. i think the old europellwhich is the old lady, which is a dying europe by the way, has to tsdefine what she really w and it's the question of the brussels leads, it is also the question of the church leads.
what is this we want in europe in the fute, that concern man values? >> reporter: "freedom, equality and tolerance," chanted the pride marchers. they yearn for the rht to have same sex marriages. but given the levels of prejudice in poland, that looks like an impossible dream. for the pbs newshour, i'm malcolm brabant in bialystok. t nawaz: in november 2017, during the height #metoo movement, a conservative talk- radio host named leann tweedon accused minnesota senator al franken of forcing an unwanted kiss on her a decade earlier. f in the days thlowed, seven additional women came forward with allegations of appropriate behavior. three dozen democratic senators
demanded franken's resignationat from the s and by january, he was gone. a new piece bythe new yorker's" jane mayer asks the question: did the punishment fit the crime? to dig deeper, i'm joined by heng-time congress watcher norman ornstein ofmerican enterprise institute. he is a close friend of senator franken's. norm, welcome back to the news hour. >> great to be back. >> nawaz: so in that new yorker piece, senator franken says when he first heard about the allegation and saw an n companying photo, it was miss tweeden sleepinga u.s.o. flight. senator franken is reaching outr tond it can be described as a lewd gesture, pretending to grope her. when thatphoto came out and the yiece came out, he said, "oh, m god, my life," he knew it would have a big impact. when you first heard about it, did you feel is same way? >> i knew it would have an impact, but none of us, his ose friends, including those
who worked with him on "saturday night live" going back decades, thpeople who worked ois staff, thought it would have the kind of rolling and dramatic implications that it did. because there was nothing in bs paavior from people close to him, including women who had been his press secretary, his chief of staff, his campaign manager, the women he had word with at "snl" had any sense at all that there was a problem or a potential problem t >> nawaz: even as additional women came forward? did you onart tor, maybe i don't know what's going on here? >> there was some pouzlement it. most of the additional allegations were basically from photo ons thahe had taken at the minnesota state fair with tens of thousands of peopl oe arou in very public settings of grabbing a buttock or a waist even during a photo on. and the questions of whether this was misinterpretation, crossed signals all emerged, but
as ehdditional one emerged, wow wondered what the politica dynamic would be in the senate. through all of this, people who knew him well and those who knew s family well, there was never any sense that al was in the same category as people with whom he was being lumped together like harvey weinstein ls charlie rose. >> nawaz: the cor him to resign from his senator colleagues came quickly. and i wondered if you talked to him at the time. did you offer him aat counel as e should do? >> yes. from the beginning when the accusations emerged,d an as the jane mayer article points out, a money more complex setting where a lot of what she said was simply not true. what al did was first he didn't want to blame t victim, which makes you look like a jerk and obviously there's long history of that, but he also called for this senate ethics investigation, believing that people other than himself, who could look at this and look at the nature of these allegations,
what the real tru was, would have it emerge eventually. and that it suddenly turned with a kind of perfect storm to these calls for rk red inflation starting with senator gillibrand and including a bunch oothers was stuning to him and to all of us. >> woodruff: you mentioned senator gill frand. she wast senator to call for his resignation. take listen to what she had to say back at that time. >> i do n feel that he should continue to serve. everyone will make their ownme ju. i hope they do make their own judgment. >> nawaz: she was asked about twhy she made t decision. in a recent interview, this is with judy woodruff back in may of this year. take a listen to what she had to say. >> i have a responsibility. i stood with eight women who feel they we groped and forcibly kissed by senator franken inappropriately, and s thke out. i stood with them. if our party is going the punish women who stanup for other women, then we?[ going in the wrong direction.
>> nawaz: norm, from the democratic standpoint, do you understand why sena gibraltar and why so many others called for senator franken to resign? the wayn which it happened and the move to force him out, without allowing any due process and basically saying, doesn't matter what the nare of the offense is, you're out of here, with all the public humiliation that came with it, that was still pretty stunning. and one of the key pointsn this article is seven senators, including won and men who said, "you shouldig r now say, oh, my god, we made terrible mistakes. we should have let due process go forward. i have been eound the senat for 50 years. i have never found a situation where sevet n senators adto a major mistake. it's hard to find one.av >>you spoken to any others who also regret calling for his resignation? the. there are other senators who don't want to come forward now because you get in the crosshairs an issue like this. that's part of what happened. but there are plenty who got
caug up in the moment. remember, one of the things that happens in cases like this is media go on a death watch. so there were 50 cameras and surrounding his daughter's house when he was. there every democratic senator had microphone thrust in their faces. what are you going to do? what are you going to do? anpeople caved. now i think they believe that they made a mistake. it was perfect storm in a lot of ways. i have to say, some of it came from senator schumer, the leader, who basically told franken, if you don't announ you're resigning by 5:00 p.m. the same day all of this emerged, thenly get the caucus to vote calling for your resignation and you become a pariah and we strip ouyou of committees. the pressure was intense. there wasn't any sense of let's ep back from this. >> nawaz: what do you think would be different today if senator franken would not have renkgned? >> i tl, who was an
enormous force in the senate would be an enormous force. he would have been a force in a lot of the hearings that took place. he would have been strong when it came to the mueller report andct trump's rn it to. he would have been an incredible questioner. as amissed in the senate lot of people see it, but it's also a human tragedy that something like this that might have resulted with an ethics investigation in what janeye s article show, probably a letter of admonishment, that it ended up destroying a career and causing an enormous level of reallyattack i unfortunate. >> nawaz: is his political career over? why give this interview now? do you think hi would run for office again? >> si think morenificant is getting his voice back. when he announced he would resign under this intense pressure, he said, i'm not goine to gup my voice in public issues. he started a podcast. he's doing a little writing. there are a lot of issues he cares about. i think importance of this artiw e and the intervs now we can have franken back as a public voice. and his is anmportant and powerful voice.
and with all the tragedy, at least that's a very positive thing. >> nawaz: norman ornstein, thanks very much for being here. >> my pleasure. ne nawaz: stay with us. coming up on thehour," columnist george will on the origins and future of americanco ervatism. plus, history and change in newg york's harlem orhood as seen through art.ws a new pbs ur/npr/marist poll offers clues into where trvoters stand on presidenp, the 2020 democratic candidates and health care. plus, what to expect from wednesday's mueller hearings. analyzing all this and more, our politics monday team. that's amy walter of the cook political report and host of s with amy walter" on w- nyc radio. and tamara keith of npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast
amy and tamara, welcome to you both. shall we dig into this hole? let's do it. le's take will be at the presidential approval rating. this is its highest point ever, 44%. that has inched up recently, and take a will be at what's driving that increase right here, among independents, a bit of a shift. it was 42% -- sorry. it wase. 35% in j that's now up to 42%. amy, when you see those number what do you think? >> so the good news for the president is this is the first time since marist has beeng polls presidency that he's had over 40% approval rating for three consecutive polls. so that's the good news. but here's underneath it all some challeor the president. i think the number-one number that i looked atou was if had said to me, there is a president running for reelection, 5% of voters say they think he's doing a good job on the economy.
% of voters say the economy is working well for them personally, including almo ost ha democrats and 62% of independents. you would say, that president is going to get reelected. people feel good about the economy, they personally feel good. then you see hisll ove approval rating is 44%. there is a disconnect there, people feeling good about the economy, not feeling particularly good about the president himself.rn unth this too for democrats, there are some warning signs. the number that really stood out for me when asked, do you think ideas offered by democrats move the country right direction or wrong direction, 43% said wrong direction. 46% said the right direction.h wh part of the reason i think you're seeing that independent number move and the overall number move is that it's not just trump, the presint in a vacuum.'s now the president up against e concept of them. there niece democratic nominee, but the concept that people saw at the democratic debates and the fight they' seeingnow
among democratic candidates. >> nawaz: i want to talk specificly about the plans they have in a second, but tam,r o you. is there something in the message the president isli ring, or is it really, we're just not sure what the democrats are putting forward, so we'll go here. >> i think we can't know for certain, but i think amy is right on in showing that approval for the economy is strong. people feel good about the economy. they feel good about how they're doing. and an important part of presidential approval aditionally is how do y feel about how the country is doing. how do you feel about the economy. the president has thagoing for him. what he has potentially weighing him down sis what's alw yoighed him down, which is the tweets and know, the comments and the feuds and the fights and the thingak that people feel uncomfortable about him. >> nawaz: so take a look at how folks are looking at the democratic candidates. this is another graphic we're pulling out from this new poll day. back in june people were asked, what's more important to them, a
ir valuesho shares the or someone who can beat trump. slightly more people wanted someone who shares t virues back in june. now that has shifted. more people want a nominee who can beat donald trump in the next election, but it's an eight-point jump there. ookt do you make when you at those numbers? >> those numbers reflect everything that i have been told by any voter i have talked to in any early state, early voting state in this country. you hear again and agai and again, i want to beat donald i want a candidate who can beat donald trump. try to pull out of thehat does that mean, and a lot of them have a lot of different ideas. but the fact that they are willing to sort of put their own personal priorities behind the big one, which is preventing thf presidenm being reelected, is an indication of just how strongly democrats feel heading into this election. >> nawaz: what that means,y that's a vood point, because the number that doesn't move much between june and july when you ask democrats, have you
settled on a candidate yet? 19% say yes. back in june it was 14%. so it's not exactly sky responsibilityine now, peosay, i know who the most -- normally you look and say, well, if the numbers are moving, i want a candidate who can be elected, they must be agreeingn who thatost electable candidate is. that's not the cas >> there is a big argument now in the democratic primary about whatns it m to be electable and how -- what is electable for democrats this time around. and that is completely unsettled, which iswing up in a lot of these numbers. >> nawaz: very quickly, i want to get to one last interesting thing from this poll on one specific issue. this is how democrats are looking at healthcare and what voters say that t want. there is a big divide among the democratic party, b this is what people say they want. 70% of americans favor ora medicarell who want it. which means they want a choice between a nional health insurance program or a private
nsurance. amy, there is still a big divide between democratic can cates about what kind of plan they will get behind. >> there is. e thing i noticed, when they asked democrats that question, the medicaid for all is popular, more popular among people who identiro asessive, so liberal or very liberal, but it also has a5% approval rating among moderates, as well some this is one of those issues that, you know, if you're a jeb or some of the other more moderate members of the 2020cr deic class, running for president, you point to that number and yousay, look, only 41% of overall americans like this idea of a medicaid for all this gets rid of private insurance, but you have coto ince members of your own party, most of whom, two-thirds ofe them, supportive of the bernie sanders model that it's better to look at, againing going to the electability question, can somebody with this sort of position geted ele when only 40% approve of it.
>> nawaz: take aook at another story. that is the ongoing tweet storm from the president, 10:48 this morning. he tweeted this in his latest in a series about the four young congresswomen of color. the squad, as they're known, he says is a racist group of trouble makers who are yng, inexperienced, not very smart. they are pulling the once-great democratic party apart. every time we think this h gone away, the president tweets about it again. is this what we'llontinue to see in. >> right through until the election. if he could continue to talk about the squad forever he would. and this is -- i'm not theu' racist, the racist. they're the real racists, for months i have ribeen h various hosts saying, oh, my gosh, this congresswoman, that congresswoman, o'rourke -- ocasio-cortez, ilhan omar, so
racist. this is the president reflecting that messaging. it's messaging. they volunteer "ithic" they volunteer those names of those congresswomen and say, wow, ty're racist. >> nawaz: i hate to do this to you, one minute left. but there is a big day coming up this week. robert mueller will be on capitol hill testifying. it's first time we hear from directly. what's the democrat's strategy and how to republicans counter it? >> democrats want people who didn't read the book or read the rert to watch the movie, watch tv show, see some of the elements that were in tanhat report say, oh, wow, there was more there than ealizedded. what the president allies and want is a dud. people not to watch it, not pay attention. or for mueller to give his testimony, for it toe bland, and for them to say, nothing more than you saw in the report, and e report speaks for itself. the end. >> nawaz: 15 seconds. >> i ndthink deg on what kind of democrat, the outcome is very different. if youe a moderate, you hope that maybe there's nothing
that's reahay incredible comes out of this that pushes the impeachment debate into reality. if you are someone on the progressive end who has signed on already to saying you want to impeach the psident, you're hoping there will be momentum behind that. s> nawaz: the president s he might watch a little bit. >> >> nawaz: longti columnist george will recently left the republican party, in protest of what he sees as shifting values. judy woodruff sat down with him recently at pen ideas festival to discuss this shift and his new bo, "the conservative sensibility." she started by asking will toew explain his f american conservatism. >> people think conservatives only one to conserveand they want to conserve the past. american conservatism is
precisely the reverse. it is to preserve society open to perpetual dynamic change. do that you have to go back to the past. you have to conserve the founders' vision, which was natural rights, limited government and oseparatif powers. >> woodruff: so many people say, wakt i do you want the us back to the original idea of america? i think manymany, if not most americans, don't understand this being open to perpetual change >> i don't want the take the country back to a time before. i want to take us back to premises before. one of the reasons jefferson leapt at the louisiana purchase was so he could have an ample land for a rural humans republic so people would more or lesss by like thomas jefferson. ilton, starnder h of a recent musical --
[laughter] -- said he wanted an urban entrepreneurial restless society full of peopleather like alexander hamilton. p there was a viable vision of what kind ofple we would be. >> woodruff: what should the role of government be? i mean, youth arguughout and you'vesargued this for a will be time, minimal role, government should have a small profile as possible, and yetverybody knows that there are some things that have happened since the founders that have made a huge difference. >> conservatives are not against government. conservatives think we need to have a constant argument about the proper scope and actual competence of government. in 1964, 77% of the american s peopd they trusted the federal government to do the right thing all the time or almost all the time.da the figure is 17%.
60-point collapse in the prestige of government as's governme activism has risen. i would think my progressive friends would be intensiny interestethis.e becaerything they want to do depends on strong government, and strong government at the end of tay depends on confidence in government. conservatives have no problem with socia government identifies an eligible cohyannis port, the elderly, and writes them checkss and mahem. it's good at that. what government is not so good at is what it began to in the 1960s. model cities. we don't know how theuild model cities. there is a sense that that'ss pbuilding, which is as tile an enterprise like orchids. cities like nations like orchids are organics things. they are not built by goazrnments >> n medicare. you started with social security. how has government done running medicare in >> well, it's been constantly
surprised, because everything it predicted, all of its predictions for costs and eligibility were much toove conserva but what we did in 1965 was attach the most rapidly growing portion of our population, the elderly, to our most dynamic science, which ais medicins an entitlement. the longevity of a great social achieve. ment it's also ruinously expensive. look at how we are governed toda for all the talk about discord, what's most frightening issu cons it's as broad as the republic fromlizabeth warren to td cruz. it's as deep as the grand canyon. it is this: we shoulhave a large, well-armed, generous entitlement state and not pay for it. everyone has agreed on that. [laughter] i'm serious. the political class is mor united by class interests than it is divided by ideology.s the cl interest is give the american people a dollar's worth
of government and chaem 80 cents for it. we used to borrow money for the future. we fought wars for the future, built roads, dams, highways, and we borrowed because the future was going to benefit from it. it was ethical to he them pay part of the burden. today we're borough to finance our own consumption of government goods and services. ich is decedent. >> nawaz: what happened to conservatism? what happened to all the arguments that george will and other conservatives have made over all these years? how did it get shoved aside in your view and taken over, that space taken over by donald trump and what most republicans say they support? the very reverse, the obverse everything conservative tism stands for is populism. populism means the direct translation of majority passion in governance. the ultimate direct translation
of passion politics is trump at the cvenvenon, "onlyi " now, conservatism says majorities are going the rule, majorities ought to rule, but in a wonderful praise,an "we mitigated democracy. we want public for slowed and filtered and refined through representative institutions." what he brings is the manner, the lying, the name-calling, all of this. which i think will do more lasting damage to the country, you can't unring these bells, thanur nixon'sptitious burglaries did. it's going to be extremely difficult to restore the tone of american life thated preva from washington through barack obama. >> nawaz: leave us with something positive to take away sessiohis
>> here's the bright side. no one ever got rich betting against the united staais or agt the american people. they are more sensible and less passionate and inflamed than some of their representa ves would haus believe they are. people rather cavalierly say we're in a constitutional crisis. we've had one constitutiona crisis. that is one crisis, the mad sewnian institutions could not handle that. was the civil war . watergate, all the rest, the institutions took care of them just fine. >> nawaz: at the turn of the last century, african amerans from across the country flooded new york city's harlemod neighboreading to a cultural explosion of books, poetry, music and art that is now collectively known as the harlem renaissance.pe asal correspondent jared
bowen reports, a photography exhibit now traces the evolution of one of the nation's most recognized neighborhoods as itlv continues to etoday. it's part of our series on arts and culture, "canvas." 1 >> reporter: tteens saw the start of the great migration-- when millions of african americans moved away from the south. many to the north, and to harlem which became an oas from oppression-- especially for artists. stephanie sparling williams is the exhition's curator. >> the art was important then. in creating a new visual lexicon for african-americans against hiories of dehumanizing an degrading stereotypes and imagery in the american popular imagination. >> reporter: at the addison gallery of american art, we find representation of nearly 100 years of life in harlem.ph mostly iographs from the museum's collection. the show takes us from the 1930's just after e harlem renaissance to today. >> i see vibrance.
i see a people who have been through so much, and we're given so little and have made this out of it, this miraculous, this place.a t of people describe harlem as a cultural mecca. >> reporter: this is where a lot of the socializing happened, was out on street corners, or in front of shops. the harlem of the 1930's was a place reeling from the great depression. orand williams sees in theof both black and white photographers a place of fortune and despair. >> you see a tensionetween, um harlem's working class, the unemployed, and then also has,em's upper and middle-cl um, citizens. stuck within harlem, but all trying to pick up the eces. >> reporter: by the 1960's, harlem became a hotbed of protest in america-fueled in large part by its community of artists, says judith dolkart the addison's director. >> i always see arsts as active agents in the culture, so-- artists have the ability to change the culture a as anyone else.
they have a point of view, and they are putting that point of view out there. >> reporter: in the 1960s '70s'8 an0s, harlem's streets were hostndo civil rights marches a later black power raies. it brought an energy that ugwilliams says courses th these photographs. >> i describe it as a buzz.th sound when you get off the subway of just people in the streets, and i think. that's captured throughout the exhibition, not only the built environment and people, but how both come together to the social life of harlem, the lifeblood of the neighborhood itself today, harlem tells a different story-- the results of gentrification. a way of life is changing, as it always has. but now, so are haem's people. >> it comes into sharp focush throwoud bey's series" harlem redux," which he shot in 2016 when we see, um, the development, the construction. we see the different ways ine which spac being claimed by other bodies.
particularly white bodies. >> reporter: the show ends on an amic piece by kehinde wiley, who created this instaous portrait of president barack obama. the subject, regal and wieldin a sword,- on his equally mighty horse, was straight off 125th street in harlem. >> i think it's carrying along this tradition of, um, self- determined imagery-- but also there's a tension, right? this-- the tension between the art historical canon.is this genre that african- americans would never find themselves in-- the black body was never portrayed in these heroic, um, paintings that depicted valor, and mascinity, and virility often. but wiley shows us that black-- the black figure is no less powerful, no less masculine. >> reporter: and instead, there is glory in a neighborhood that has long encouraged that in its residents. >> reporter:or the pbs newshour i'm jared bowen of wgbh in boston.
>> nawaz: across the country communities struggle to create jobs and end homelessness. one detroit non-profitas found a unique solution to help address both challengeess. special condent mary ellen geist has the story. >> reporter: casandra grimes has been homeless for a year. t she has started to stitch her life back together. >> i try to just make my life better than it was before. >> reporter:rimes discovered a anique opportunity: working at the empowerment pla non- profit organization dedicated to ending homelessness through employment. >> reporter: the organization was founded by veronika scott. >> bh of my parents struggle with employment and addiction and poverty, and so it is creating an opportunity i wish had been given to my own family. >> reporter: while conducting research to design a coat for
homeless people, scott was confronted by a woman who told her that she didn't need coat, she needed a job. that led scott to launch the empowerment plan, which offersmp bothyment and a unique product for people in need, a durable garment that can be transformed from a shoder bag, ag a coat, to a sleeping b and back to a shoulder bag. >> theoat on its own is a band-aid for a systemic issue, and what really has the impact is hiring the people that would need it in the first place. >> reporter: casandra grimes admits the job has its challenges. >> you gotta focus when you thread. because i kept on breaking the needle when i first started, but i manage it now. >> reporter: managing the work- life balance is a part of employment at the empowerment plan. employees spend 60% of their paid time working, and 40% improving their education and life skis. >> empowerment plan started off as an education for me, and it really has evolved into creatinh same opportunity for
education for everybody. >> reporter: grimes is stufoing her g.e.d., with plans to attend college and pursue a reer as a seamstress. employees work at the empowerment plan for two years, then transition out into the workforce. grimes has a year left, and thea orgaon is helping her find an apartment of her own. >> i really do feel empowered when i am here. 'cause i can get a good job in e future knowing i've got my educ i love what i do. they helped me get back on my heet. >> reporter: forbs newshour, i'm mary ellen geist in detroit, michigan. >> nawaz: later tonight on pbs, "pov" presents a film about a 23-year old yazidi woman trying to shine the spotlight on the struggles of the yazidi community. "on her shoulders" folws nobel peace prize winner nadia murad, who survived the 2014 genocide against the yazidi in iraq, as ure becomes the voice of her
people, hoping to he world to action. "pov: on her shoulders" airs tonight on most pbs stations. and remember on wednesday, former special counsel robert mueller testifies on capitol hill. our coverage begins online at 7:45 a.m. eastern and on the broadcast at 8:30 m. and that's the newshour for tonight. tuesday join us again. i'm anma nawaz. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> babbel. a language app that teaches real-life conversations in a new babbel's 10-15 minute lessonsas are availabln app, or online. more information on babbel.com.i
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