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jato o'brien. ght we are watching two major stories unfold in the u.s. and britain. a political showdown on capitol hill as special counsel robert muler is urged to clarify hisn report ossian interference and the president's conduct. >> did you totally exonerate the president? mr. mueller: no. jane: in the u.k., it is official, boris johnson becomes prime minister with 99 days to go before brexit. prime min. johnson: we willpe fulfill the ed promises of parliament to the people and come out of the eu on october 31, no ifs or buts. jane: these stoes have major implications for the u.s. and the u.k. we will be looking at what come nextboth countries. jane: for those watching on pbs and around the globe, welcome to
"world news america. it has been quite a day of news on both sides of the atlantic. in the u.k., boris johnson has become prime minister and is making major changes. but we start in the u.s., where special counsel robert mueller testified before congress. o he was pressthe findings of his report into russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, including any actions taken by president trump and his campaign. the bbc's laura trevelyan has been following it on capitol hill. laura, over to you. laura: jane, robert mueller said that this 448-page report was going to be his, testimod indeed it was. at the last count, on more than he170 occasionave monosyllabic answers to questions from lawmakers. bademocratcally just read the most damaging sections of the report into the record and got the special counsel to agree
that is what he said. republicans tried to attack the very basis of the probetself and go at the integrity of robert mueller. house democrats, they are e meeting tonight to decw they are going to spend the day. nick bryant has this report on an eventful day on capitol hilli : democrats were hoping these hearings would not justau provide the obook version of the mueller report, but a summer blockbuster movie. but the former special counsel did not even want to appear on capitol hill and stuck closely to the script and main findings of his 400-page report. t mr. muelle investigation did not establish that members of the trump campaign conspired with the russian government in its election interference activities. b mr. muelle the report did -- nick: but the report did not clear president trump of obstruction of justice, of interfering with the russian meddling investigation. >> the report did not conclude that he did not commit obstruction of justice? is that correct?
mr. mueller: that is correct. >> what about total exoneration? did you actually totally exonerate the president? mr. mueller: no. nick: mr. mueller was monosyllabic, but under republican questioning, stated that guidelines prevent sitting president from being inve after they leave office. >> could you charge the president with obstruction of justice after he leaves office? nick: raising eyebrows from donald trump tonight, who claimed that the hearings were an epic emderrassment for crats. pres. trump: this was a very big day for our counvey, this was a big day for the republican party can and you could say that it is a grt day for me but i don't even like to say that. nick: the democrats might not have gotten the box-office drama they were looking for, but from hibert mueller, a reminder to donald trump thalegal problems have not gone away, that presidential protection from prosecution ends the moment he leaves the white house. nick bryant, bbc news, washington.
jane: laura, after several hourf hearings, what did we learn that was not in the report? laura: we learn from robert mueller how concerned he is about the facthat other countries saw what russia did, how they interfered with our democracy, and robert mueller fears that other y untries will do the same. he said that russia right now is trying to interfere in our next election. he also described as problematic th president praising the anti-secrecy group wileaks. remember, they obtained hillary clinton's emails and distri ted that went beyond what we already knew. but otherwise, it was a public airing of everything in the mueller report. fo many americans who have not read the 448 pages, re is all on thrd. jane: what about clarification of some of his decision-making? democrats particularly wanted to
know why he couldn't charge or exonerate president trumpruver obion. laura: there was confusion on that, and robert mueller h. to clarify he said that because there is ao opinion from tice of legal counsel, which is in the department of justice, saying you cannot indict a sitting president of that is why he did not charge the president with affection of justice. that seemed to suggest that he would have if you were not president. but in the afternoon robert mueller clarified that and said that he did not reach a determination on w the president obstructed justice. on that when we arrwnot further d. on the question of whether or not the president himself could prosecuted once you were to leave office, -- once he weic to leave o mueller said he could. heas forer there was a crime, we did not move that much forward. jane: very complicated. rithank you for co it live on capitol hill.
for more on the hearings, i spoke a short time ago with constitutional law bbc legal analyst jonathan turley. thank you for joining me does this help or hurt moves for impeachment? jonathan: i think it hurts it, quite frankls democrnted to see if they could move the needle. the polling of the american impeachment.n against while there is a majority of democrats, independents and republicans are largely against impeachmt. that is a majority of voters in the country. democrs did not get that gotcha moment. they didn't even get the soundbite they wanted. they had six hours and achieved little but reading the report to the special counsel. it was like a passionate conversation with an answering machine. he kept on saying the same thing, that he is just not going to answer. jane: but he did say that the president could be charged once he has left office. who would charge him? jonathan: that is a good question.ai certy he could be charged,
but he is not going to be charged with conspiracy with the russians. mueller confirmed again that they didfot find evidence conspiracy with the russians. the department of justice has ruled out obstruction of justice charges. that leaves campaign finance violations. that is a possibility. michael cohen played guilty to -- pled guilty to this conspiracy of giving hush money to women who allegedly had affairs with president trump. the other person involved in that conspiracy was president trump. so one could understand that, but that is a difficult case to bring. ink it was a good day overall for president trump in that they did not get a lot of traction. in many ways it left a lot of ondering what the democrats are doing. they kept on saying "no one should be above the law," but it ne like a police officer screaming "someorrest this man." this is the committee that is ndsupposed to impeach him,et they seem to be pedestrian and saying "why is this happening,
why doesn't someone do something?" jane: good day for president trump, perhaps, but what about mr. mueller himself? he came under personalk from mr. trump earlier in the day. was that a good strategy to try and undermine the special counsel? jonathan: no, this hearing was aynot a goodn terms of trump's legacy. ie mean,oks terrible. just because there is not a criminal charge likely to be made doesn't mean that he looked good today. he looked dreadful today. jane: what about mr. mueller? jollthan: i have to say, mue did not look particularly good today. he looked at times befuddled. he did not seem to have a good handle on the record. i don't think heacross as someone that had a lot of control over what was happening. on the other hand, he maintain his independence. his best momentsame when he was defending the democratic system against russian interference and wheas defending his own staff. then you saw a glimpse of the
old robert mueller. he was articulate and he was passionate. but a lot of people quite surprised. they have not seen him in a long time for this length of time. jane: was it clear to you why he decided to answer some questions and not others? jonathan: . the one thing that i think was astonishing here is thats mueller'sition on what he could and could not answer was completely conflicted and sort of unintelligible. in fact, he would at certain points say "i question," and five minutes later answer basically the same question by another member. then he would say "i cannot get thto decisions i made as a prosecutor," and isecond hearing he was going at length about his decision not to subpoena the president. none of it made a lot of sense. jane: jonathan turley, thank you very much indeed as usual for joining me. wngresswoman madeleine dean was one of the lawmake questioned mr. mueller. i spoke to her earlier today th christian fraser and
started by asking her how she thought the hearing went. rep. dean: this was an importan day r democrats, not for republicans, but for the american people. we had the opportunity to have robert mueller, a man of integrity and credibility, come mibefore our cee and lay out the facts and the evidence and extraordinarily damning wrongdoing uncovered in the report he submitted to the attorney general. christian: congresswoman, we meationed many times before robert mueller did not come to a conclusion.te he has pto congress, and it is up to you to make a case for impeachment. if you are going to write an impeachment case, what would you say are the grounds for that impeachment? rep. dean: well, extraordinary lawlessness, breaking of the rule of law. ofbert mueller today, one the impressive things he said was the importance of and the gravity of the charge of obstruction of justice. that is not a light criminal charge. he vy clearly said that he could not charge a sitting
president. you notice he waofasked by one he representatives on the other side of the aisle, could he charge after the president is no longer president, and he said yes. i wanted is for the american people to see the gravity of the wrongdoing, by russia, by the campaign, and and then once the president understood he was under investigation, the multiple instances where he tried to obstruct justice, he tried to use others both inside his administration and private citizens to carry out hi, abuse of pows attempt at obstruction of justice. so these are all very serious crimes bthis administration. jane: congresswoman madeleine dean on a big day for congress, the long anticipated appearance of special counsel robert mueller. now to the u.k., where today bos johnson became prime minister. after meeting with the queen, it was off to number 10 downing street, where he commi leaving the eu by the end of october. already he has made major inanges, overhauling his c within a matter of hours. the bbc's political editor laura kuenssberg repts.
laura: even for those who adoreg him, a year o boris johnson's journey to the palace would've been the kind of wild story he might have written. he was blocked by protesters on his way. o w the politician who as a boy said he wanted t world king inerted to become prime mini by the queen. the moment where everything officially changed, bowing to the monarch. there are some rules he will follow. prime min. johnson: i have je t been to r majesty the queen, who has invited me to form a government, and i have accepted. there are pessimists at home and road who think that after three years of indecision, that this country has become a prisoner to the old arguments of 2016. so i am standing before you today to tell you the britis people that those critics are wrong.rs the doubthe doomsters, the
gloomsters, they are going to get it wrong again, and we will fulfill the repeated promises of parliament to the people and come out of the eu on october 31, no ifs or buts. i am today building a great team of men and women. i will take personal responsibility for the change i want to see. never mind the backstop. the buck stops here. laura: the big judgment, ready and willing if nee us out of the eu without a deal. prime min. johnson: it is vital at the same time that we prepare for the remote possibili that brussels refuses any further to negotiate. and we are forced to come out wath no deal not because w that outcome -- of course not -- t because it is only common sense to prepare. we in this government will wor
flat out to give this country the leadership it deserves. and that work begins now. thank you very much. laura: this is the sf a new era and the start of a very diffent era, with boris johnson and the brexiteers in charge. perhaps they are not so much taking back control as taking over a precarious and fragile situation. for any new administration, there is glory on day one, but there were howls of protest from whitehall throughout the speech. chis is a time of strife. mr. johnson is in ge because of the failures of his party and his predecessor. for her, te today for one last bow to the commons. -- bout in the commons. farewells and tributes aa enty for thery, but it is politics. always barbs, too. mr. corbyn: i paid tribute to
her sense of public duty. i hope, mr. speaker, that she has a marginalti more relaxing on the backbenches and perhaps like the chancellor, even helping me to oppose the reckless plans of her succsor. laura: she couldn't resist it, either. ms. may: perhaps i could finish my exchange with him by saying this -- as a party leader who has accepted when her time was up, perhaps the time is now for him to do the same. h ura: she will stay on as an mp, and closed wtribute to her constituents. ms. may: that duty to serve my constituents will remain m greatest motivation. laura: applause then, after years of defeat and disappointment. a formerrime minister now, one more last moment at the podium, where in calling needless general election, she maybe sealed her fate. ms. may: i repeat my warm
congratulations to boris on winning the conservative leadership election. i wish him and the government he will lead every good fortune in the months and years ahead. eeand as i leave downing s my final words are of sincere thanks. laura: the real affection was for her truest ally. ms. may: fally and most of all, i want to thank my husband, philip, who has been my greatest supporter and my closest companion. laura: it is over now for theresa may, yet the next occupant arrives t hface so many same problems. a party torn in two,jority to speak of. boris johnson tonight must know they applaud them all on the way in.ss laura kuberg, bbc news, westminster. jane: for more on the future course for britain, i spoke with amanda sloat of the brookings institutio thanks for joining me.
a very optimistic speech from bos johnson, but will the can-do attitude be enough to recalibrate negotiations with brussels? amanda: i think it is going to be very difficult for boris to negotiate with brussels. he will face the exact same challenges that theresa may did in terms of an eu with clear ree lines and the arliamentary arithmetic. eu leaders have been very clear this week that they are not prepared to reopen the withdrawal agreement, and they are not prepared to scrap the backstop from northern ireland. it is difficult to see what sort of concessions he thinks he is going to achieve. jane: but what about the threat of a no-deal brexit on octer 31? that does go a little bit further than theresa may. amanda: it certainly does, and that has been one of the things that boris johnson was g campaign as he sought the leadership of the conservative party. the eu is certainly not wanting to have no-deal brexit, butth
r attitude seems to be that they are much more prepared for this than britain is. the attitude in brussels sms to be that a no-deal brexit would be so chaotic for the uk that it woul scrambling back to brussels to start discussing political and economic arrangements in the future, anin that case, the eu has been very clear that the u.k. would need to do with the -- deal with the nth ireland border, they would need to meet their financial commitments, and they would need to address the issue of citizens' rights. the u.k. could find ite lf in me place it is now. jane: how likely is a general election before the october 31 deadline? amanda: it certainly is a possibility.ew one of thehings that the british parliament has been able to agree on is the fact that it does not want to have a no-deal brexit. there is the boris johnson tries to move forward with a no-deal brexit, they could call a vote of no confidence in his leadership and move fward with a general election.
it is also possible at some b point this johnson will want to call a general election. it is worth remembering that he was elected with less than% of the support of the people in electedbecause he w by a very narrow majority of conservative party members. he clearly does not have a solid mandate from the entire country for th approach. jane: he also only has 99 days to get anything done. how likely is that? amanda: it is very hard see that he is going to renegotiate an agreement and get it ratified by the british parliament by october 31. p certainly mople in the u.k. and in europe will be enjoying their summer holidays, now starting in late jmoy and ng into august. is only going to have september and october to do all of this. even if he is able to renegotiate a deal, there is a question about whether or not he would need to request a technical extensioto allow the british parliament and also, remember, the european parliament to have time to
implement the necessar legislation to deliver. jane: amanda sloat, thank you very mucindeed for joining me. amanda: thank you. jane: let's have a quick look at the day's other news. facebook says it will pay $5 s billion tle an investigation into its privacy practices. the u.s. federal trade commission said facebook policies violated rules against deceptive practices. as part of the settlement, theco any will create an independent privacy committee and increase oversight of third-party applications. toaccordinussian media, russia's embassy in seoul hasde ed that an official apology has been made to south korea after russian military aircraf entered korean airspace. it comes after seoul's presidential office said moscow expressed deep regret over the incident and blamed the intrusion on a technical glitch. cuoms officials in singapore have made the largest seizure of elephant ivory following a poff from china.
about nine tons of ivory was intercepted from nearly 300 african elephants. it is estimated to be worth $13 million. it was part of a shipment from the democratic republic of congo to vietnam. and a pair of running shoes has been sold at auction for close to $450,000. the nike moon shoe was designed by the nike cofounder and athletics coacfor runners at the 1972 olympic trials. handmade, this was one of only 12 pairs ever made.ht they were boy a canadian lallector, who plans to di them at his museum in toronto. they will be on view in a timely fashion, because for more than a week we have been bringing you full coverage of the events around the wld celebrating the first manned lunar landings. apollo 11 lifted off from the -- on the 16th of july, 1969, and four days later, neil armstrong and buzz aldrin took
their legendary steps on the moon's surface. y 50 years ago, they came home. here is pallab ghosh. >> houston, you still looking mighty fine here. u are cleared for landin pallab: the recovery team ready and waiting. so, too, the predent of the united states, richard nixon. watching on tv all across the world were the millions of people who followed every moment of this historic mis we have re-created the bbc tv set where 50 years ago, these incredible pictures were broadcast live. from the original gigantic saturn v rocket that launched the astronauts on their way, all that was left on the final leg waa tiny command module. inside, the astronauts were about to face one of the most dangerous parts of t journey, reentry into the earth's atmosphere. rtas they fell to eah at nearly 25,000 miles per hour, temperatures soared.
>> you are looking mighty fine to us. >> see you later.ll pa: communications from the command module and mission control was not possible for a full three minutes. >> there is blackout. pallab: the world watched and waited. and then -- >> apollo 11, this is hornet. >> loud and clear. pallab: they were safe. oyter parachutes were depled, touchdown in the pacific ocean. once the recovery ship reached them, a diver handed the astrauts isolation suits. no one knew what alien germs might be on the moon. so despite theirewfound heroic status, the men were unceremoniously sprayed with a disinfectant. once they were on the ship, they were put immediately into a quarantine trailer to hear from their president. pres. nixon: as a result of what you have done, the world has never been closer together
before, and we thankor that. erllab: after three weeks in quarantine, theyofficially declared safe. for america, the nation had made it. they were e first country to astronauts home. but this was a mission that went beyond borders. it briefly brought together a world that was divided by conflict and showed what humanity was capable of. pallab ghosh, bbc news. jane: 50 years later it remains an extraordinary story. you can find more on that story and all the day's news on our website. i'm jane o'br thanks very much indeed for watching "bbc world news america." announcer: funding for this presentation is made possible by... the freeman fountion; by judy and peter blum-kovler foundation,
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captioning sponsored by honewsur productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newsho tonight... did you actually totally exonerate the president? >> no. >> epnow, in fact, yourt expressly states that it does not exonerate the president. >> it does. >> woodruff: robert mueller testifies. the former special counsel appears before congress answering questions about russian interrence in the 2016 election and whether president trump obstructed justice. then, we devote mosof the show to examining mueller's testimony. what it mea for the president and what it reveals about the scope of russian terference. all that, plus the day's other headlines on tonight's pbs newshour.