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woman: this is "bbc world ns america." the freeman foundation; by judy and peterblum-kovl, pursuing solutions for amer and by contributions to thin from viewers like you. thank you. nada: this is "bbc world new america." reporting from washington, i am nada tawfik.
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nprotesters i indian-administered kashmir after the area's special status was revoked and a lockdown imposed. some are now speaking out. in the wake of two mass shootings, president trump says serious talks e underway on gun control legislation, but how far is he going to go? pres. trump: we need mningful background checks so that sick people don't get guns. nada: and one cathedral in england is welcoming a bit of carnival. everne is lining up to take a turn on the helter skelter. nada: for those wa and around the globe, welcome to "world news america" india has told pakistan to stay out of its internal affairs and accept reality. tensions continue to rise over
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ove to revoke the special status of kashmir. today some mosques were allowe to open their after a communications blackout and lockdown that has been in place since sunday. kashmir is claimed by both pakistan and india, each controlling different parts of the state. our correspondent yogita lamaye is one of the few international journalists in kashmis, and sent theport. yogita: tensions in kashmir are beginning to ris young protesters have been coming out in many areas, pelting stones at security forces and jeering them. soldiers fired lead pellets and tear gas to disperse them off. voices that have been suppreed for days have begun to be heard. this was a spontaneous march by men who were just off at friday
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prayers. they walked through small alleys because they cannot go out on the main roads. >> in every part of india people are celebrating, but they don't know that our hearts are bleeding. we are crying, we are under siege. >> we have been completely trayed. they put a gun to our heads and told us that a few people in the government have decided our fate.yo gita: earlier inside the mosque, too, there was oganeering, and the cler also made a speech about the issue. the dispute over kashmir can only end when they take the opinion of people here," he said. it is the first friday since the government removed his region's special privileges. while most of the big mosques were closed, in some places peop were allowed to go and pray. however, phone and internet lines remain cut off.
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rsseparatist leaave been moved out of kashmir. top politicians in the region remain under house arrest.ov the indiannment taking no chances, worried that the situation could spiral into widespread unrest. away from the empty streets of kashmir, in other parts of india, the government's actions have found resounding support. "it is a very good decision. we will now be able to control terrorism," one woman says. "i went to kashmir as a tourist but i didn'el safe. prime minister modi has made a good move." a beautiful land that is no stranger to conflict. but rarely has it stood on the cost of suchn uncertain -- on the cusp of such an uncertain future. yogita lamaye, bbc news. nada: four more i spoke with a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. as we heard from yogita there, real fears of widespread unrest. how long can the lockdown last
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before there is intens backlash? >> it sounds as if there is some we don't have a lot of repoing out of the valley, out of the tart remains under lockdown. we are hearing that the indian government has lifted some of the security restrictions in the southern part of the state. but it is the kashmir part of the state that is most in question. we will have to see how this goes in the coming days. i'm surprised they have maintained security restrictions for so long. they need to be lifting these restrictions and restoringd communication ving mainstream politicians out from these preventive detentions. nada: this has been such a contentious area in e past. we have seen in pakistan's two iaout of three wars with iit has been over kashmir. is there a fear of regional destabilization? >> i think there is fear that this will continue to be a regional flashpoint. e component of this that involves india and pak slightly different than the component that involves tension
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and stability within india itself. but weo know that pakistan has objected strongly to the actions india took this week. i think the fear is that in addition to pakistan'sic diplomteps, there may be an influx of terrorist elements who have had kashmir in their sights and have acted on kashmir in the past. nada: focusing on india, why do you think prime minister modi made this decision now? alyssa: first, we know and it has been a long-standing element of modi's party, it has been a part of their platform for decades. its not a surprise that they were interested in trying to remove this article 370 and make jammu and kashmir a formal part of india withoutpecial but what we are hearing from reporting in india is that the timing, why they did that now, is that the indian government was very concerned about the outcome of t trump
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administration's negotiations with the taliban, well underway, and the withdrawal of troops in the region might lead to greater instability, perhaps a greater influx of terrorists from across the region into kashmir. number two, we heard the indian government was concerned about president trump's offer to mediate after prime minister imran khan of pakistan was here the oval office. trump made this offer in fro. of the camer nada: but so far we have heard the united states say that this is ailateral issue and stay out of it. do you think president trump needs to be putting moren pressureime minister modi given all the criticism that has come his way? alyssa: right, it is hard to know what that pressure would entail. i think president trump's offer of mediation was theoretically -- i cannot speak exactly to what he had mind, but to play some sort of role between the governments of india and pakistan. india has been resolutely
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focused for tickets on this -- for decades on this being an internal issue to india witht there being a need for a mediator. it is hard to see what the role might be. nada: thank you so much for joining us. alyssa: thanjoyou, happy to . nada: president trump says there is a need for background checks on gun purchases, and that he believes the national rifle association and its members will get mm board. his ts come nearly week after 31 people were killed in two mass shootings. in the past, the nra has resisted such measures, but mr. trump made it clear where he stands. pres. trump: there has been no president that feels more strongly about the sec amendment than i do. however, we need meaningful background checks so that sick people don't get guns. nada: for mo, i spoke with our north america editor jon sopel. you have seen this debate play out after numerous mass shootings, but did you sense a real change in tone from the president when it comes to the nra?
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jon: well, i thought there was a change of tone where he straight out of the house was talking about white supremacy, hate, and bigotry. and i thought whate said today talking about "i love the nra, the nra love me, but we may fall out over this" -- he didn't quite say that, he said at best they might be neutral on this, they are cing around. these are baby steps. we're not talking about oweeping refothe gun laws in the united states. we are about tightening background checks. but evenhawill face the ieth of opposition from the nra . wheard from the president today was someone who said i am prepared to take on the nra on this, but we have been herre be if you want to put a skeptical te on this come after parkland he said people are too afraid of the nra. the nra had dinner at the white
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house and he dropped his proposals. we will see what happens. nada: senate majority leader d mitch mcconnell has refu reconvene the senate and he says it will wait to vote on this. is there the risk that momentum fizzles out by then? jon: yes, there is, but i think the president saying what he said today has put his stamp on this as a proposal that ought to go forward. i think it would look weak -- i don't think people will forget in three or four weeks. the other thing the president did today, and this shouldn'e'te overlois that there would be a number of republican senators whose instincts would not be to do anything that would incur the wrath of the national rifle association. i think what donald trump said today gave them license to backh e proposals. w and i think ld chime with public opinion. g d the nra might for the first time in a very lme find itself on the losing side of a battle with capitol hill, and if legislation does become law, that would be the first time in
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a quarter century that any gun-control measure has passed.a always great to get your take. another issue being raised in o the wathe recent mass shootings is the need to address extremism online. today the white house held a conference on that topic, and to i was joined earlier by the director at the marshall fund. at the heart of this is an issue of freedom of speech vsus combating extremism. is there any way to do both effectively? >> yes, well, as you know, in the u.s. we don't have laws against hate speech e of the first amendment, but the internet platforms are free to moderate. they are not the government. they are expected to take downnt t that incites violence or even that is hateful. they say that they do, but their ethos is to leave things up, because they feel powerful as a government, and don't forget, they make money off of
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advertising for evavything they up. that has been the tension nada: we have seen today these tech companies at the white house. do you think they are doing enough? do you tnk they should be taking this more seriously? >> absolutely, and there is a general feeling -- we have gone from a couple years ago thinking they were the heroes of democracy and they would bring voice to the voiceless to thisas enormous tec where whether you are on the right or theyo leftare angry with them. they should definiteldo more, and after every crisis they step up a little more and realize their responsibility. but ihink they are looking to the government to send them some message about what is important. they are looking for some leadership, and it was very interesting that after christchurch, the new zealand prime minister called specifically out whitete supremacy, wationalism, extremism, and she and the president of france held this call to action to provide that leadership. nada: looking at what the government can do, do you think there needs to be more resources, more expertise to
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agencies including the fbi to do with this? karen: absolutely. the fbi is asking fo resources to deal with domestic terrorism, and the ftc, thead federal commission, which is the only agency so far that we have had looking into these awsues, because we don't have a national privacywe don't have an agency that is focused on the tech sector, they clearly don't have enough people with the expertise that the chairman of the agency has said as much to congres and if you rememberth cambridge analytica scandal, they were violating a consent decree and the audit was not being done by they were complying. it was outsourced to one of the accounting firms, which clearly was not keeping up with what was going on to allow something like cambridge analytica to happen. they absolutely need more resources. nd to call for a new agency that would have this sector
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straight in its eyesight and would be able to not control content, but deal with the practices. is there transparency, too easy to deceive through deep fakes and bots and trolls and so on? f of the internet, if you will. nada: thanks so much. karen:hank you. nada:te yet again pers are making their voices heard at hong kong's international airport. it is the first of three full days of planned demonstrations. thousands ofvoro-democracy tes are handing out leaflets to travelers, explaining their complaint against the government led by carrie lam. the bbc's stephen mcdonell reports. stephen: in the thousands, cyblack-clad pro-democ activists occupied the arrival s hall at hong kong's airport. officials allowed the sit-in to continue come as long as corridors were left clear for traveler >> we want democracy because we realize that this is an
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authoritarn government, and we need our voices to be heard by the government. ephen: the protesters sa their aim was to reach a wider audience, and carried banners iticizing local government, calling for univsal suffrage, and amending a -- and demanding an independent inquiry into alleged links between police officers and triad gangsh >> ovepast two months, the police have used excessive force to stop protests from haening. stephen: hong kong's leader, carrie lam, said no such inquiry was needed, as the police were already carrying out their own internal investigati at a news conference, she warned they woulde more arrests over the coming days if radical olo-democracy groups continued to clash with riotice. ms. lam: they did not mind destroying hong kong's economy. they h stake in the society which so many people helped to build. that is why they resort to all the violence and obstructions,am
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causing hugee. stephen: what these people want, their key demand, is to choose who their leader is. they are today no closer to achieving that. carrie lam is showing no signin she is moving hat direction, nor is beijing. however, as you can see, these activists are also showing no y inclination that te prepared to give up yet. china's central government has targeted staff of cathay pacific who have supported the movement. the civil aviation administration said any flight from the hong kong airline carrying crew who backed the protests would neither be allowed to land in china nor fly through chine airspace. we would not dream of telling them what to think about something. they are all adults and serve professionals and we respect them greatly. stephen: stephen mcdonell, bbc news, hong kong. nada: you are watching "bbc world news america."
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still to come on tonight's program, residents of elaso pulled together in the face of tragedy. tonight they share what makes their special.ommunity so ipolimalaysia say they are using thermal imaging equipment search for the iris teenager who went missing, holiday resort on sunday. around 250 people are involved in theearch, a rescue operation attending to find a 15-year-old. here is howard johnson with the repo. howard: daybreak over theorest reserve. more than 250 search and rescue workers have been scouring the jungle for nearly a week to no avail. . nora went missing from the resort last sunday, after she
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arrived for a two-week holiday with her family. her father raised her arm -- race a lot after she found that -- raised arm after he found her bed was empty. "nora, darling, i love you. i am here." today police were handing out these leaflets in a locut town five m away from where nora went missing on the weeken this is the fifth day of the search and rescue operation, and police are aware that toue is runninto raise awareness about what might have happened to nora. in the town's main mosque, a special prayer service was held to offer community support to the parents of nora. police said they continued to scan the jungle using formal recognition drones, and they scotched rumors that nora's footprints had been found.
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>> there is no footprint of the miing person yet. howard: s and so trch and rescue effort continues. tomorrow it will be exactly a week sce nora was last seen. howardohnson, bbc news. nada: we have spoken a lot this week about issues of gun control and immigration p bicy, which han put in the spotlight following the shooting in el paso. but the community there is dealing with the loss of friends and family and neighbors. many cannot believe that violence into the city, and they are pulling together in the face of tragedy. >> there is a suffering in our city.nt the devil cameour city and did whatever he and as evil. it was not from us.
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somebody from out of town came and did this to us. this is the type of city that we are not defined by something like this. no one ever should be going through a loss like this. >> it is i don't bee he is really gone. neyou see it all over the ws, but to see it in your own city is something shocking. >> i don't think it is actually hit him yet. something where you don't really want to believe. it is kind of hard. everybody who's been here or has lived in el paso knows that somebody from here would never
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do something like that. it is full of life, and they tried to take that fm us. >> the resilience is embedde within our community, because this community has gone through a lot. the fabric of our community are made up of immigrants. i think it is also reflective of the latino community. if a stranger came to your house and asked for food or a place to stay, you would always open your doors. even if you don't have anythin to give them, you give them whatever you can. it is the community we are, and i know that is what we will coouinue to be from here on regardless of what happened. i hope that el paso can be an example to other communitiesla that havno or immigrant populations to know that we can be safe eate safe communities.
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but ther is a lot of healing that we need to do. >> to me, being el paso strong is being diligent and achievinge a passioifestyle and making sacrifices for it. >> we have just grown stronger. obviously, we were scared for the first days, but it has brought us closer together like everybody here. >> it will be back to its original self. it is gonna take time, but it is going to be back. >> we will be more united. we will not give in to something like this. >> if i would have made him a known tt he was comin-- well, not just me, everybody would have showed him how hispanics are and the way in al pa all that. would have shown him the food, the culture, how loving were, everything of el paso to show at we are not mean or ba people.
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like how they say we are. >> i love el paso. nada: so inspiring to see the love and strength in that community after everything they have been for. -- been through. ctthedrals are usually known for their ornate archie and glass windows, but what about a 55-foot helter skelter nestled near the altar? the structure and slide usually found at a carnivalov has to a cathedral, designed to attract more people ou the building. religion editor martin bashir has been to take a look. martin: amid amid the ancient cloisters of this hallowed place, a frground ride. >> it is good fun. really good fun. martin: did it make you think about anything more deeply? >> if i amont, no, other than what a random thing to have in a cathedral. >>wa i think it s very good and fast. martin: it took four days to
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build andts two pounds a ride. the cathedral says it is designed to give a close up view of the snning medieval ceiling and start conversations about faith. >> i think we have to remember that we are dealing with a great arversity of people in our nation, and if wgoing to reach out to lots of different t people, we have use different methods to reach them. martin: at 55 feet tall, it is certainly closer to the heavens, but will it take visitors nearer to god? but isn't this a sign thatashe churchost faith in its gospel message and is reduced to basically having gimmicks? >> oh, no, this is the sign of a confident church. english thedrals are the gre success story of the church of england. our numbers coming to worship are increasing, the number of visitors across cathedrals is rising. : if that is the case, why have you got a helter skelter? >> because our job has always been to retell the story. rtin: o i will climb the 36
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steps myself six flights of stairs and i'm 10 feet from the cathedral ceiling. >> are you ready? martin: i am, sir. thank you very much. whoa! quick! haven't seen many of the ceilin. from her whoa! i have to say, think i prefer evensong for understanding the gospelhe andhristian faith, but judging by the light over ere, i think i'm in the minority. martin bashir, bbc news. nada: it is certainly e way to get children to go to church. i wonder if they will keep coming. remember, you can find more of the day's news on our website. i'm nada tawfik. thank you for watching "world news america." announcer: funding for this presentation the freeman foundation; udy and peter blum-kovler foundation,
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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> nawaz: good evening. judy woodruff is away. on the newshour tonight: turmoil at the top-- how multiple resignations at the country's top intelligence office raise questions about political influence and the future of the intelligence community. then, five years after the police killing of michael brown, we return to ferguson, missouri, to look at the emotional toll left behind. >> when i wake up in the morning, my otions are all over the place, and i really don't know if i want to go forwards, backwards. every day is a fight for me since august 9, 2014. >> nawaz: and it's friday. david brooks and jonathan capehart are here to break down the political response to mass shootings in el paso and dayton,


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