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chaos erupts at hong kong's international airport. protesters clash with police, s and hundreds of flighthave been canceled. >> they are building barcades at the moment to the entrance to the terminal. riot police are outside. have a look do there. there are still passengers arriving at this airport. laura: questions swirl around an explosion at a nuclear facility in russia last week. now residents in the area are told to leave. plus, setting sail for new york. climate-change activist greta thunberg is bringing hessage to the u.s. on a zero-carbon journey. laura: for those watching on pbs and around the globe, welcome to "world news america." violent clashes have broken out at hong kong airport.
riot police armed with batons and peppered spray claith protesters. officers charged on the pro-democracy campaigners, who caused disruption fosecond day in a row. hundreds of flights were canceled at one of the world's busiest airports. china has threatenedo intervene if the protests continue. jonathan head was there and sent this report. jonathan: this was the day a self-styled demomeacy movement lose to mom violence. fearful of infiltrators, protesters seize individuals they thought were undercover chinese officers. emotion so raw, it was hard to restrain them. aifor the second st day they occupy the airport and shut it down. baggagell teys together to make effective barricades. thousands fill the departure hall, mingling with the will the passengers whose floghts were no er leaving, and at times
trying to win their inunderstand. what started as opposition to a controversial extradition bill as evolved into demands for fully democratic government in hong kong and for police accountability. roar om the crowd, and another suspected infiltrator had gone down. it was a struggle for medics to evacuate him. delegation of police wa allowed into the airport. this officer pleading for cooperation. for the bellowing fury of these and protesters drove them back out of themi ternal. that was followed by lines of riot policeng loomiowards the doors. it sent them scurrying for more trolleys. outside, this officer's attempted to arrest someone backfired badly. he had to raise his gun to fend
off his attackers. s you can see, they are building barricade the moment to the engines to the icrminal. there are riot poutside. have a look down there, there are still passengers arriving at this airport. how are the police going to storm this building? while all this was going on, stranded travelers sat among the empty checking desks in one ofs asia' most important transport hubs. losing control of it is a humiliation for the hong kong government. more significantly, it is a humiliation for china, which has warned that its patience is running out. jonathan head, bbc news, hong kong airport. laura:ri a time ago i spoke with scott kennedy, director of the project on chinese business and political economy at the center for strategic ain rnational studies. china says the protests mark the first sign of terrorism.
how much more disruption will china tolerate? t scotir redline is really hard to determine. they are made right now in the seaside resort, and certainly they are not going to let this go on too much longer. at some point able to cite to death at some point able -- tt some pointy will decide to hetervene if they figure the hong kong police telves cannot stop it. precisely where they draw that line -- they want protesters to know that they cannot figure out is going to happen. laura: president trump has tweeted that the chinese government is movingops to the border with hong kong. won'thina want to avoid a tiananmen square-style eymonstration? scott: of course, don't want that. what they want is make everyonehink they would do that, but be prepared in case things to get out of hand. this is called the hardhat movement, it was there umblla movement five yes ago. everyone is acting in a hardheaded way.
xi jinping and the chinese teed to realihis is still far from out of control and even though the pictures from the airport look that way. the hong kong government needs to back off, and the protesters need to recognize anthat they still have tim hong kong is still very different from the rest of china. laura: where is the compromise between the demands of the protesters for greaterracy and this crackdown by the chinese government on hong kong's autonomy? scott: i think actually a very minor step of fully withdrawing the extradition amendment would probably persuade most of the protesters to go home. originally you had 2 million people on the street and now you have down to a few thousand. even just the allest signs of concessions would get some of them thinking that there would be a positive way to get this resolved through dialogue. laura: is there a risk for ngotesters that people in kong don't like these tactics? scott: sure, and originally the business community was with them
because the extradition law threatened them -- laura: the fact that you could be tried in china. scott: that's right, and nobody wanted that. but if they really disturb travel, if there is loss of life from the protesters, the police, or people passing throh the airport, that is going to return folks against them. this h stillas offramps, not necessarily any of them any good, short of a full scale crackdown. laura: china said it was committed to one country, two systems back in 1997 with a handover. t what happened t? scott: what they said is that the one country, two systems formulwould last, but there are ways they can still tervene according to the basic law which is supposed to undergird that. tet it requires people to have a sense that the swill last the full 50 years, and as they see the shadow of china's rulemi closer and closer, the anxiety of hong kongers has come up. it does not look like anyone is d to having the system last 50 years. laura: scott kennedy, thank you for being with us.
scott:ur laura: now to russia, where there are many unanswered questions after an explosion at a nuclear research facility last ek. five scientists were killed during the blasts, and information has beento come by. u.s. officials believe it may have been caused by work on a nuclear-powered cruise missile. there are concerns about a spikn adiation in nearby villages. i spoke to michael carpenter, who was the director for russia at the national security council. thanks for being with us. this test of a new type of nuclear powered cruise missile goes wrong off the ciast of ru what is it that russia is developing? michael: russia has long been flummoxed by the fact that the united states is building a missile defee shield in europe and it has wanted to find a weapon that could evade missile defenses. it has worked on two types of missiles, an underwater drone that is nuclear powered and a conventional missile powered by a ni nuclear reactor. it looks like it was the latter of those that explod off the
coast of the arctic coast in the north. laura: the russian government is trying to give away as little as possible, yet people areeing evacuated and radiation levels have spiked. how long can they get away with this approach? michael: they really can't. at this point it is clear that this was a missile that the u.s. and nato call skyfall. i don't think the russians candidate that best the russians -- i don't think the russians can evade that any longer. i think there is a utility for them for the public to understand that this was an teadvanced missile sthey were developing. as far as the population goes, that is a different manner. of course they want to obscure, lie any which way they can. laura: the trump adminisation s withdrawn from one short -range arms treaty. with a look again at the start treaty? michael: it is unfortunate that the trump administration has taken the brunt of the blame for withdrawing from behind a treaty
even though it was russia that was treating. -- cheating. the focus should be on russia and its noncompliance. of course the trump administration tactically mis-played that by formally withdrawing from the treaty. but all that is left is the new start treaty, and there is a provisn for a five-year extension starting in 2021. the trump administration has shown little interest in preserving that, and time is mnding down. it takes a good ths at a minimum to negotiate a follow-on agreement, and they haven't done so. that is cause for concern for those who care control.s laura: is the u.s. try develop something similar to skyfall, what russia has? michael: the u.s. tried to develop nuclear-powered cruise ecmissiles decades ago anded against it because it was environmentally, morally, engineering-wise, too difficult, too risky. there were too many downsides, so we abandoned those efforts longdogo. 't think there's any effort afoot to develop something
similar at this point. laura: moment, the fact that russia is trying to get this off the ground? michael: essentially russia is ulcaing that u.s. missile defenses in five, 10, 15 years will be so powerful that they m' somehow blunt russis intercontinental ballistic missile fleet. thei developing workarounds, essentially vengeance weapons that could bused after a u.s. first strike. this is one of thoseuc whether theyed or not, it is hard to tell. it is difficult technology to master. you are talking about a nuclear reactor inde a missile. very, very dangerous if anex osion like this happens, or if it is used properly, it presents lots of environmental risks. gythis is dangerous techno but they clearly seem bent on developing it. carpenter, thanks for being with us. michael: my pleasure. laura: in other news, u.s attorney general william barr has ordered staff changes at the new york jail where financier jeffrey epstein died while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.
epstein was found dead on saturday after apparently hanging himself. the warden has been moved and two officers have been placed on leave. it is a wild ride for traders on global markets these days. markets diving one dayg and soare next. volatility is largely due to uncertainty in global economic policy, particularly on the issue of trade between the u.s. and china. today markets leapt on news that some announced tariffs would bye de but who knows what tomorrow holds? earlier my colleagues spoke to mohammed el-erian and asked what was underlying the big swings. mohammed: markets no longer have an anchor. they no longer have an anchor of ecomic fundamentals, they no longer have an anchornt of l-bank policy. it is a very volatile period, and as you say, traders are having ermous difficulty figuring out what they should be doing.
katty: but volatility if you are trading -- it might be bad for your nerves, but it is not bad for your pocketbook. there is plenty of money to be made in volatility. mohammed: there is, but you have to understand, the money me on volatility is because traderse. had an e it is hard to argue that traders have an edge in predicting tweets out of the white house. i think they are puzzled as many others are. it just it speaks to the new reality in markets, when both fundamentals and policies are no longer anchoringmoay-to-day s. ucvid: on top of this, how do you think is driven by the fear factor that it has been too good for too long? i know we have trade issues between china and the u.s., but growth has been going on forever, it feels like, in termr of quarter auarter -- i saw u.s. figures were up 121 months of growth in a row, a record. it is similar in the european union as well.st and markets elieve that
the bubble has to burst. mohammed: if we were talking yesterday, david, i would have said yes. but today is different. today is greed, fomo, fear o missing out. why? because most profitable trade the last eight years has been to buy on the dip. what we have seen day is ople rushing in on a tiny bit of good news because they have been conditioned to buy on the dip. yesterday is about fear, today is about greed. exaggerated on both sides. ivid: and i don't knit is the bigger picture, really, but if you look at the currency spat going on between the u.s. and china at the moment, how great are the concerns that china actually is prepared to say, you know what, let the yuan slip further, and they're in it for the long haul, which i suppose means forget any idea of settling this trade disput
mohamed: so i think that is probably the most likely outcome. we will get the occasional cease-fire -- that is what we have seen toda but if you look at the underlying drivers, and not just econic, they also have to do with domestic politics, national security, they suggest an escalation of trade tensions. and underneath all that, the were horrible numbers out of singapore today in terms of growth, outlook. europe is having difficulty having traction. there a lot of victims around rade tensions. it is not just a u.s.-china issue. laura: mohamed el-erian on market tbulence. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight'sra pr 50 years after the troubles began in northern w ireland,e see if another reconciliation can provide some lessons.
laura:m three men fnchester in the u.k. have been held as heroes by police in oesterle afr they help restrain a man who was -- in australia after wthey helped restrain a m was attacking pedestrians with a knife in sydney. a second wom was found dead inside an apartment building on the same street. here is phil mercer. phil: terrifying carnage is how police have described rampage in sydney. video footage shows the suspect reappaly shouting "allahu akbar"nd "shoot me." the armed man is eventually tackled to the ground. he is pinned down with café chairs and milk crates before the lice arrived. a group of it is men had been fiworking in an nearby when they heard the commotion. they ran down and chased the alleged offender. >> wielding the knife with blood
on it. all the people were going away because he is wielding a knife. eri don't know whet is an instinct have got to restrain this guy from doing any more. phil: the courage of the three men from manchester and others is recognized by australian police. >> as members of theey public, ot involved, and they are brave, and i can only use that word seriously. they are significantly brave people. two get a person with the mindset of what this person did. phil: the body of a woman in her early 20's was found in an apartmennearby. investigators believe the death is linked to the stabbing rampage. the larwielding has been knife identified as a 21 will with a history of mental-health problems. australian police believe he was
acting alone and does tot have links errorism. the motivation for the attack is not yet known. full mercer, bbc new sydney. laura: this week marks 50 years since the beginning of the troubles in northern ireland. the conflict lasted decades and claimed thousands of lives. the era of apartheid in south africa led to bloodshed there. like northern ireland, the country went through its own journey of reconciliation. our johannesburg correspondent has been to belfast to look at a peace process on another continent. reporter: it is home to a people haunted by the past, ghosts that will not let go. like south africa, northern ireland has connection to its isolent history. for 30 years, thommunity was the scene of bloodshed. thousands were killed in sectarian violence.
ese gates are going to close soon for the night. it is to help the communities living on either side feel safer. but as a south african who lived under apartheid, i have come to find out why more than 20 years after the peace agreement, these divisions still exist. ♪ >> my father's name is trevor. reporter: in the play "blood red lines," the cast members have personal stories of the troubles.th in sfrica there is a common narrative, apartheid was wrong. a man whoseather was killed in a bombing ove $0 a common over 40 years ago said a common narrative doesn't exist here. >> there is an ongoing debate as to the definition of an victim here. if we can get an understandiof
ow violence affected people and how people had to live through nonviolence, we can get to a stage of acknowledging what we have done to each. reporter: but reaching an understanding is difficult whil the continuing divisions. growing up in south africa, segregion was stark. but even i have never seen anything like this. this is one of many in belfast keeping two communities separate. egforts at inttion have not been enough. communities remain polarized. a vast majority of schools in northern ireland are segregated. i vited two schools in londonderry, one with many protestant pupils, and the other a catholic school separated by a river and identity. i am south african. what you identify as? >> i identify myself as irish. >> i identify as ish. >> i identify as irish. >> i identify as iri. reporter: but to a school with protestant pupils -- what do you identify as?
>> british >> british as well. reporter: what do you think it is still so separate? >> fear ofnknown. ere's not much integration in communities. reporter: what sort of future do you imagine? >> more open and accepting of people. >> i think it is an influence to walk by older generations, people who are in a family who are particularly one-sided. >> i think there still is tterness from older generations and sometimes those trickle down, that we were born after the peace agreement. we don't kn what happened. we can read a textbook, but the tengion stone -- the tensions d't have to be there. reporter: so how do you overcome those tensions? forhiprofessor, it is about trust. he has worked on south africa's and northern ireland's transitions. >> you think of south africa,
sometimes people use the language of reconciliation, it implies a certain vision of the future that can silence people as well. reconciliaon is a contested idea, it is not getting everybody together and saying we all agree on this great future. it is more that we agree to are the space. reporter: two societies of a similar history. the violence has diminished since the days of mass slaughter, but neither society has the luxury of forgetting about the past. m reminded that piece is fragile thing. ac news, belfas laura: it is stiew weeks until a major summit on climate change at the united nations in new york, but greta thunberg is already packed. that is because the teenage campaigner is going to sail across the atlantic on an zero-carurney. she will be traveling on a yacht with solarel pand underwater
turbines. our chief environment correspondent has been speaking to her about the voyage. reporter: how do you get to new york without any co2 emissions? this is how. but greta thunberg isn't anxious. greta: i might feel a bit seask. it is not going to be ivcomfortable, but i can lwith it. reporter: it may be fast, but she is not comfortable, warns the skipper. >> no washing, no shower. we justan put close owe keep them for two weeks. reporter: there's no fridge, no kitchen, no heating,acnd no priv >> here you have your little intimate corner. you can hide here and use a bucket. reporter: this blue bucket is the toilet. but there are also no carbon emissions. the entire journey will be under sail, and all the electricity will be generated by solar panels and turbines.
if we are honest, one person giving up flying doesn't make any difference in a world of 8 billion people. what is the point? greta: i mean, the point, i think, is to sort of create an opinion. by stop flying, you not only reduce your own carbon footprint, but that sends a signal to other people around c you that tmate crisis is a real thing. and that also it pushes a political movement. reporter: but 's been a year since the 16-year-old began her climate strikes, and carbon emissions continue to rise. she plans to encourage world leaders to take more urgent action in new york. grso this is the bunk whera will be sleeping. there is a little curtain should she want it. when the boat is tipping over, you could pull this up and
wedge yourself. you are squeezed in so you will not fall out. actually, i will be honest, it is quite cozy. and despite the privations, she is looking forward to the trip. greta: i think it will feel good in a way, to be just a loan with al to be juse with those on the boat and the ocean. i think that will do good. reporter: the voyage will take two weeks. greta's team say they have not yet quite how she will get back from america laura: greta is setting sail. remember, you can find much more of all the day's news on our website. i am laura trevelyan.an you for watching "bbc world news america." announcer: funding for this presentation is made possible by... the freeman foundation; by judy and peter blum-kler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs;
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