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's offensive in northern syria will be paused, says the u.s. vicpresident, after a high-stakes meeting in ankara. we have a deal. there is a new brexiagreement tween the u.k. and t eu, but does it have the votes to get through parliament? ime min. johnson: i hope very much that my fellow mps in westminster do n come together to get brexit done, to get this excellent deal over the line. laura: plus, the president will host the g7 meeting at his very own resort. critics are asking why it came out on top. ura: forhose watching on pbs and around the globe, welcome to "world news america."
turkey will suspend its offense of against kurdish fighters in northeastern syria for five days. the deal was announced after edtalks in ankara betweentu the ish president and mike pence. president trump callealit a great day for civilizaon. turkey's foreign minister said "we got what we wanted." jeremy bowen is in ankara with the latest. jeremy: the meeting did not start well. dark stairs, called hand-checks. the united stae s -- dark stares cold handshakes. the united states and turkey are supposed to be allies. it didn't look like that. afafr hours of talks, vice president mike pence emerged with t secretary of state with a hint of a smile. vice ps. pence:oday the united states and turkey have agreed to a cease-fire in syria.
jeremy: but the war in syria has a way of wrecking cease-fires. it still choose up -- chews up life and spits it out. a genegetion of syrians has s grown up among casualtied death. if this agreement holds, it is the turksop who will pause the operation for 120 hours insisted they were not intimidated by trum''threats. they say the dealelivers what they want. "this is not a cease-fire," sais the foreign mr. "we are taking a break so the terrorists can leave the security zone. the americans will destroy their heavy weapons." something like 300,000 civilians, mostly kurds, have been displaced by the fighting.
their l side will accept the agreement. it itoo soon for these famili to go home, but it might be too soon for kurdish fighters to want to put down their weapons. many blame president trump for creating t crisis. he seeproof of what has called his strategic brilliance. pres. trump: what turkey is getting now is they will not haveo kill millions of people come and millions of people are not goin this was gng to be a war of this was not going to stop with turkey against the kurds. a lot of different groups were coming in. jeremy: what it's still -- but it ist stillluid, fragile, and unstable in northeastern syria. theswere the words of president bashar al-assad celebrating the rern of the troops to the streets. they were back in land they had crisis.e in 2012 because of this their presence may not be any
guarantee of peace. president trump and his critics will go on arguing about his responsibility for the crisis. but what is certain is that the events of the last 10 days or so have permanently changed the strategic map of syria. that will have consequences for the way that war eventually ds and for what happens to syrian civilians. the fighting was supposed to stop just before dusk. but it is unlikely to go easily from here. jeremy bowen, bbc news, ankara. laura: a fellow from e washington instute recently wrote a report for congresnon the situat inside syria, and she joined me a short go. who is getting most from this pause in hostilities, turkey or the kurds? >> d would add assad, russia, and iran. laura: what happens if the kurds
don't withdraw in five days? >> the content of this agreemen as i understand itom ortter, is that turkey is willing to pauseive days and if t kurds have not k disarmed, removed their fortifications, and gotten out of this -called safe zone, then turkey is going to resume its operations. glaura: and the u.s. ng to essentially put pressure on the kurds to comply with thisom agreement. >> yes, and apparently the head ce the syrian democratic f has already endorsed this agreement, which is an indictment of the fact that he does not have many options at otthis point. laura: however, is this a face-saving exercise for the u.s. government for mike pence to be able to fly back and say hesaot a con of hostilities? dana: absolutely. everyone will say face however they need to. trump and mike pence will say, see, our sanctions worked and it
our threat of total economic devastation got the turks toop stop militarations, and started this military incursion and i moved in and i got the united states to do what i've been telling them l wanted to do ong. laura: senator mitt romney asked the question today, are we so weak and inept diplomatically that turkey forced the hand of the u.s.? dana: the real irony is that esesntially this agree today is exactly what we were doing before the unforced error by president trump on october 6 after his phone call with president erdogan. we were already negotiating a safe zone with the tnd working with the ypg to remove their arms and forces from thent area that was uous to turkey's border. now it appears they will continue the exactxaork th d weng before. laura: and turkey gets the sanctions lifted. dana: turkey gets thtions lifted if they fully stop theon military operaafter they get what they want, the kurds moving away from the border. laura: it has been a whirl and
11 days in u.s.-syria policy. where have we ended up? dana: i think the united states is in a much worse position. the one third ofyria the u.s military was sitting on neth its pathe syrian democratic forces was necessary not only to continue the fight against isist but as critical leverage to enable a broader resolution to c the underlyingauses of the sydean conflict. now assad and russia and iran can move into that one third of territory and they do not even ha to fire a shot. laura: as someone who wrote a big report on this for congress, how does it make you feel? dana: it is really the reversal of everything. they took the report and the president set it aside.. we were very clear that isis is not defeated, that this conflict is not even close to over. laura: thankso much for being with us. a new brexit deal has been agreed bet the u.k. and the eu. it came just in time for the eu summit, and brain's prime minister called it a new deal that takes back control.cr
buially, the agreement must be approved by the u.k. and european parliaments. mp's will meet on saturday for it is unclear if boris johnson has the votes to pass the deal. from brussels,he bbc's political editor laura kuenssberg reports. laura k.tucked under his arm in a red folder, perhaps the way that boris johnson can take us out of the eu in a mat weeks. prime min. johnson: this is a great deal for our country, the u.k. i also believet is a good deal for our friends in the eu. what it means is that we in the u.k. can come out of the eu as one united kingdom. it hasn't always been an easy experience for the u.k. now is the moment for our parliamentarians to come together and get this thing done. laura k.: why are you confident this can get through parliament when it doesn't seem to be the
case at home, and what on yarth wi do if this falls onhi saturday? prime min. johnson: there is a very good case for mps across the house of commons to express the democratic will of the people, as we have pledged many times to do, a to get brexit done. laura k.: easier said than done. this afternoon it looked like he could not quite believe it. >> how are you feeling, gentlemen? laura k.: only seven days since going.not evgo 100 days into bos johnson's time in office. rt one of his biggest job is complete. >> we have a deal. laura k.: words boris johnson would hear.ave thought he but part two is next. many mps will deplore this deal, and it is not totally different e to the deal agreed by thrmer prime minister theresa may, who used to walk this red carpet. ep leaders did finally acc that the backstop, the controversial border guarantee for northern ireland, had to go. there was enough political will,
so there was a way. >> as things stand, we have a draft agreement between the european union on the one hand and the british government on the other. also creates a unique solution for northern ireland, recognizing the unique history and geography of northern ireland, one which ensures there is no hard border between north and south. >' let'rejoice inre which a deal has been found. laura k.: but the numbers are achingly tight in parliament. if it falls on saturday, what then? people in favor of brexit or not, doesn't matter. this is not if we are goi to have a deal or no deal. laura k.: what happens if this does not pass parliament? >> i'm not in charge. that is the job of boris. laura k.: do you beliell it wi? >> i hope it will. it has to. laura k.: it has to, but if it doesn't? >> anyway, there will be no prolongation. laura k.: no delay? no delay? even if the deal falls?
not if the opposition has >> we believe the deal proposed is heading britain in the direction of a dey gulated socid the selling off of national assets to the united states. as itnd swe cannot support , this deal and we will oppose it in parliament on saturday. laura k.: reaching a new deal on solvinthe political conundrum brussels is by any measure a big political achievement. the eu has moved in ways that a couple of weeks ago they sworly publould never happen. but to reach there, boris johnson has had to compromise, too. so t. he runsmack into the very next oblem, because a deal that works for this town might not work for parliament where there is a vital vote in two days time. mp's who fear the consequences of the deal are talking, plotting perhaps to block it,
not least borilejohnson's supposed unionist allies. >> in order to avoid getting an extension, he has been too eager by far to get a deal at any cost. the fact of the matter is if he held his, nerve, if he held o he would have got better concessions which kept the integrity, both economic and constitutional, of the united kingdom.he laura k.: brexiteers dangling their support. >> i'm reserving my position because i want to read what is it. we were told by the government in discuions that certain concerns were being met in this agreement. i just wanto make sure that that is the case. to stay in the eu will worka together to stop it happening. >> he has managed totoegotiate something that is even worse for our ecomy than what theresa may put forward.fo we are talking aboutt of economic vandalism whihi would be worse for the economy tn >> hard to imagine a deal that would be worse for scotland. it is worse than theresa may's
deal which takes scotland out of theu and the customs union against our will. laura k.: if his political enemies win, westminstill tryns to send boris j packing straight back to brussels to ask for a delay.y. what wou happen then?? is this the end of the road for a deal? if this doesn't pass through parliament, is this as far as the eu is ready to go? is this finally the final deal? visibly not something they want to contemplate. "don't ask a question which doesn't arise," the negotiators id. t is a hypothesis." but one that soon might be true, not what boris johnson and his apparent new friends want to think about tonight. they may all want to enjoy ts eile it lasts. laura kuenssberg, bbc news, brussels. laura: here in the u.s., the brexit deal is being watch closely byns irish-ameriho want to see the good friday
agreement protected. icamong the leading is foer democratic congressman bruce morrison, ande joined me a short time ago. thanks foreing with us. mr. morrison: my pleasure. laura: as you watch brexit unfolding and all hinging on this relationshep between no ireland and irish republic, what do you make of that? mr. morrison: first of all, i think it is great that people unyrstood that the good fri agreement is something special and that the lack of a border on ireland is real progress and raace is really important. it has become cebecause it is essential. nura:ac but theis that now fyou have the democratic unionists who want to stay in the u.k. they are so worried about thra ement that they cannot support the new brexit plan. why is the border so a motive in northern ireland? mr. morrison: i don't think it is that the dup wants a border. e it is that they cannot square the circle about northern ireland being treated
speciaecy. it is being treated specially in a favorable way, not an unfavorable way. they have gotten guarantees about continued membership in the u.k. i think they are missing the chance to be the peacemakers here, but they are good at missing chances laura: you have followed the whole good friday agreement very closely, over 20 years. do you feel the u.s. should be doing more to support it at this critical juncture? mr. morrison: i think tpp is lots of t in the u.s. and lo of support in congress. i dons't think the white h has stepped up because they are so focused on brexit being such a great thinin that is a decision we w, ldn't mat it is a decision the thk. has made, and thereforwe have to hold ontthing that is invaluable, the good friday agreement. laura: would you like to see a u.s. envoy appointed to shepherd the good friday agreement through this difficult phase where the northern ireland t assembly isn'rrently meeting? mr. morrison: yes, i think we
need an envoy. it has aays been the case that an outsider has been helpful, and it really is when the british government opened itself up to an outsider, george mitchell in particular, that things really ved. laura: i was in northern ireland reporting on the end of the troubles after the ira cease-fire. you know the whole situation very well. do you wry about the potential for a return to violence? mr. morrison: idol think most people want t wgo back in any way, shape, or form you are not traditional republican groups that want to go back,or traditional loyalist troops. but there are splinterros that could cause trouble, and if the border were to come back, it would be attractive to smugglers. w' cant have a border. we need cooperationetween north and south. the future constitutionaitstatus becauss agreed in the good friday agreement that it is a matter of consent. laura: bruce morrison, tha you so much for being with us.
in other news from the leader of the spanish region of catalonia has called for an immediate end to the violent protests by catalan separatists. the leader, who alsoants independence from spain, said thmovement suld remain peaceful. the duke and duchess of cambridge continue their tour of pakistan by visiting the cricket academy in lahore. both william and kate showcased their batting skills in front of the former captains of the men's and women's teams. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, a keyitne in the impeachment quiry gives his testimony. we will have theatest on what gordon sondland had to say. laura: 11 pro-democracy lawmakers have been hauled out hongong's parliament after
a second day of heckling chief executive carrie lam and calling on her to resign the bbc correspondent in hong kong has more this story for . owporter: once again carrie lam has been shoutedin hong kong's parliament. yesterday, pro-democracy lawmakers forced her to abandon her policy and address for big today the same pro-democracy lawmakers interrupted a question-and-answer session in which she was going to talk of it more about the plans the government hador the coming 12 months. any of the members held up white flowers, which they said was in sympathy and solidarity with protesters who ha been injured over the past four months of demonstrations, which have often turned violent. and also some the pro-democracy group was shouting out that carrie lam should resign, that really she should go. this is the point at which she should no longer be in charge in hong kong. 11 members were thrown out of thehamber. when the session ystarted, carrie lam faced
criticism. she was asked, why did you not address the political concerns the protesters? sheng said "i focused on hou because it is a big concern of people here," and she said that hong kong was entering a technical recession. she said she was going to help businesses turn the tide to make things better. also of note in the past 24 hours, there has been a vient attack on one of the leaders of the biggest human rights groups, otographs began to circulate last night showing him on the floor. apparently he had been attacked men with hammers. he is said to be in a stable condition in hospital. but it is an illustration of how some figures have been targeted there were real divisionsand how between different camps in t city, between ople perceived to be pro-beijing.cy and
laa: it is not often the at capitol hill is on edge waiting for the u.s. ambassador to the eu to testify. i but in theeachment inquiry, gordon sondland is a key witness. in his opening statement, he officials to talk rectly to his personal lawyer rudygi iani about u.s. policy in ukraine, and he says he didn't know until later that giuliani's agenda included pushing ukraine to investigate joe biden. but the real bombshell of the day came from president trump's chief of staff, who said military aid to ukraine was withheld to pressure tve debunked allegation about the eg16 election. joining me is ron christie, former advisor to george w. bush. isn't this the quid pro quo, look into the conspiracy theory about the dnc servers in ukraine or you don't get military aid? ron:veould be. goodng to you.
we don't know the facts yet, but the fact that the chief of staff would confirm something the president said did not take place will give ammition to the president's political enemies who say that this sure likes a quid pro quo, chief of staff said it tost place. laura:pparently there is consternation among the president's personal lawyer's tonight t what mulvaney said, unsurprisingly. ron: being a lawyer, i would say that this opens ups he president to potential political vulnerabilities. what is he going to say what has chief of staff is directly the laers are pretty upsett? tonight. laura: meanwhile, we have gordon sondland, the holhlier, trump donor who became ambassadoro the eu. he said he was uncomfortable with the giuliani having this role in ukraine policy. wohould you describe the arrangement? ron: i think it is strange, to be honest with you. there is a reason we have policy at foggy bottom. to bring in your personal lawyer too to ukraine or any other
country for that matter, really goes outside of the lines of authorit. the chief of staff needs to know what is going on. the secretary of state. if the president's personal lawyer is freelancing, that is bad laura: someone else chatting with rudy giuliani ukraine, energy secretary rick perry, he has resigned tonight. what do you make of tha ron: i don't believe in coincidence. we have heard the last several weeks thatick perry wanted to leave the administration, and we now know why. it does make sense that the energy secretary would be anding about ukrai energy. however, the timing of this -- i don't believein idents in my laura: it has been a day of many developments, and w learned tonight that next year's g7 economisummit is going to be held at the trump resort outside miami. the presidt isn't going to profit, we a told, but how does it look? ron:ha!
it looks insane. i can't think of a better word. of all the hotel chains in the united states, you will choose the one you own with your name on the front door? no way. themerican people will look at this and say that we have heard of the president profiting from office, and it looks odd for the hundreds of thousands of dollars that will be spent. laura: apparently it was the best suited of all of the 12 they looked at. [laughter] ron: i don't know who they are fscting looki real estate, that is not a choice i would have made. laura: p but fple who voted for him to drain the swamp, is this draining the swamis? ron: no, it is adding to the swp. the perception that people are letting their profits in the administration, the perception is good to be that the president could profit from this. laura: ron christie, thank you for being with us. for all the fighting capitol hill lately, there woment of unity today as both parties
came together to mark the passing of congressman elijah ththcivil rights leader and chr of the powerful oversight and reform committee has died at the age of 68. while the marylandla democrat ws known as a harsh critic of esident trump's policies, he had very deep trenches across riendships across the aisle. as nancy pelosi said in her statement, congress will miss his wisd and warm friendship and great humaty. he was a terrific orator, and h is life spanned american history.uc you can findmore of all the day's news on our website. i'm laura trevelyan. --thank you so much for joining wahing "bbc world news america." announcer: funding for this presentation the freeman foundation; by judy and peter blum-kovler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs;
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