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>> i'm chris wallace. with the trump presidency now past the first hundred day milestone, what i had for the next 100? >> president trump: for the last 100 days my administration has been delivering every single day for the great citizens of our country. >> this summer till next we will break down what the president has accomplished so far and what's to come. we will start with for an apology, policy towards north korea and iran. sit down with president trump's national security advisor to general mcmaster. then, the democrats pushed back. >> health care. >> the next 100 days will be
just like the first. >> we will discuss taxes, the health care in economy when senate democratic leader chuck schumer. it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. plus north korea defies the world with another missile test as president trump issues this stark warning. if >> president trump: a chance that we could end up having a major, major conflict with north korea. absolutely. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel if there's a way for president trump to halt north korea's nuclear program. and our power player of the week, using high tech to solve crimes. all right now on "fox news sunday" ." >> chris: and hello again from fox news in washington. president trump capped his 100th day in office with a rally last night in harrisburg, pennsylvania, touting his accomplishments and goals. while the press corps was back in washington for the white house correspondents
dinner, mr. trump was with thousands of supporters and he wasn't subtle about it. >> president trump: i could not possibly be more thrilled then to be more than 100 miles away from washington, spending my evening with all of you and with a much, much larger crowd in a much better people. right? >> chris: the president reaches the 100 day milestone as he takes another shot at replacing obamacare, a major tax overhaul and addresses rising tensions with north korea, and that's where we will begin with president trump's national security advisor general h.r. mcmaster. general, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> gen. mcmaster: next, chris, it's a pleasure to be here with you. if you want trump so that we could end up, his words, "in a
major conflict with north korea" and our later cited a warning, north korea conducts another ballistic launch. isn't that a deliberate provocation to this president, isn't that open defiance? >> gen. mcmaster: it is open defiance, its open defiance of the international community. north korea poses a great threat to the united states, our great allies in the region, south korea in particular, but also to china and others. it's important for all of us to confront this regime, this regime that is pursuing the weaponization of a missile with a nuclear weapon. this is something that we know we cannot tolerate. the president has made clear that he is going to resolve this issue one way or the other. what we prefer to do his work with others, try to included to resolve this situation short of military action. >> chris: both the vice president and the secretary of state have been going around the region in asia and
announcing that the era of strategic patients is over. now north korea has responded with not one but two ballistic missile test that both failed, but still they went ahead with a missile test. doesn't that mean since you say that the era of strategic patients is over, that you have to do something? >> gen. mcmaster: yes, we do have to do something, so we have to do something with partners in the region and globally. that involves enforcement of the sanctions that are in place. it may mean ratcheting up though sanctions even further. it also means being prepared for military operations if necessary. >> chris: i want to go back to something else the president said, because in an interview this weekend with john dickerson on "face the nation" he said he won't be happy if north korea conducts a nuclear test. do you and the white house distinguish between a nuclear test and a long-range missile test, do you see one is more threatening? >> gen. mcmaster: they are both threatening. developing a nuclear capability
has to be matched to a delivery system. it is the sixth nuclear test, is what it would be combined with the initial program that poses a grave threat to the united states and our citizens as well as our friends and partners in the region. >> chris: you talk about china and our allies or other regional powers getting involved in this. president trump keeps saying he's developed a special relationship with president xi that he very much hopes that the president will apply greater pressure, ratchet up the pressure on north korea, having said that, here is with the chinese foreign minister said this week at the united nations. take a look. >> china is not a focal point on the peninsula. the key to solving the nuclear issue on the peninsula does not like in the hands of the chinese. >> chris: he says north korea
is not china's responsibility. >> gen. mcmaster: he might want to talk to his president, who during the summit with president trump acknowledged that this is a great threat, not just to the united states but a may be even more so to china. he showing his willingness to take ownership of the problem and recognize that they have to act to help resolve this proble problem, problem short of military conflict. his development of a relationship with president xi and the discussions that led them to understand that this is a place where u.s. and chinese interests overlap and at the same time the president has reinvigorated and strengthened our alliances with key nations in the region. >> chris: do you see china actually doing something? >> gen. mcmaster: yes, we do see china starting to do something. we see that the public statements, you've seen it in the chinese press. you see it with the more
strident and stringent enforcement of existing u.n. sanctions, but it is clear, more needs to be done. we are going to ask china to do more as we do more, as our south korean and japanese allies -- really all nations have to take a look at this regime. it's already isolated itself, but to further isolate it financially and also diplomatically, to make clear that none of us can accept a north korea with a nuclear weapon, and by the way, north korea hasn't developed this for defensive reasons, they said they want to use it to blackmail nations and be declared with the intent to sell them openly. >> chris: i want to talk about the military option because you are saying that's on the table. i've been to the region, i'm sure you've been to the region. you go to the demilitarized zone, it's 30 miles from seoul. they have thousands of short range missiles that are aimed at seoul, an metropolis of
25 million people and military troops. if we were to strike against their nuclear program, against their missile program, we are talking about human catastrophe, aren't we? >> gen. mcmaster: yes, and this is why the presidency, this is something we don't want to have to do, but what this president has done is he's now connected our military options with what we are trying to politically. which amongst those two things were disconnected from each other, explaining the viable option, the military option to help make what you were doing diplomatic way, economically, with sanctions, viable, to be able to resolve the problem short of what would be what the president called a major, major war and humanitarian catastrophe. >> chris: precisely to the point, can you envision a situation where north korea becomes such a threat that we are willing to take that risk of short range missiles hitting soul, in metropolis with millions of people connects me to the president has first and foremost on his mind, to protect
the american people. >> gen. mcmaster: i don't think anyone thinks it would be acceptable to have this kind of regime with nuclear weapons that can target and range to the united states. >> chris: president trump, changing just a little bit, but same region, said this week that south korea should pay for the missile defense system that we have installed their, $1 billion. there is a report today that you called your south korean counterpart said no, the old agreement was that with the united states play that billion dollars and we will stick by that. is that true? >> gen. mcmaster: of the last thing i would ever do is contradict the president of the united states. that's not what it was. in fact, what i told our south korean counterpart is in a negotiation that the deal is in place. we will agree to work but with the president has asked us to do is to look across all of our alliances and to have appropriate burden-sharing, responsibility-sharing.
we are are looking at that with a great aleck south korea. what you're saying because of the president's leadership, more and more nations are contributing more to our collective defense. >> chris: the question of who pays the billion dollars is up in the air. >> gen. mcmaster: the question is what is the relationship going forward, it will be renegotiated as it's going to be with all of our allies. with the has said is will prioritize american citizens' security and interests. to do that we need strong alliances. but also to do that effectively, and a way that is sustainable economically, we need everybody to pay their fair share. >> chris: i want to talk about another trouble spot. the state department has just certified that iran is complying with the nuclear deal, the terms of the specific field, but it was also made clear that the united states is going to be much tougher when it comes to other iranian actions and the support of terrorism. with the west, our allies dropping most of their sanctions
and now in business -- doing business eagerly with iran. aren't we the ones who are marginalized, even if we wanted to get tough with iran, do we really have leverage to enforce our will, to back up our threats? >> gen. mcmaster: i think we certainly do. i think all we have to do is pull the curtain back on iranian behavior. this isn't a regime that is supporting -- this is a regime that is supporting the murderous regime in syria. this is a regime that is really applying what you might call it has below model to the greater middle east. they have depended on the land for support. >> chris: i don't doubt that they are bad actors, my question is can we enforce sanctions when our allies are not interested in doing that? >> gen. mcmaster: i think our allies are interested in what you're saying, what has happened in the last eight years, u.s. policy has unwittingly empowered and iran across the middle east.
now we are seeing the effect of that with the humanitarian political protest of the in the middle east. what's critical now is a shift in that policy to confront iran and what you're saying is because of the president's leadership, really strong relationships across -- and i think there's going to be a tremendous opportunity to confront their destructive behavior in the region and beyond the region. >> chris: two more quick questions for you. president trump came into office talk about hoping to improve relations with russia, but over this first 100 days, i want to put this up on the screen we've learned that russia has violated the inf missile treaty, they defended syrian president and now they are now arming the taliban in afghanistan, oftentimes against us. in these 100 days, have relations with the kremlin's gotten better or worse? >> gen. mcmaster: i don't think i've gotten really either better or worse. the russian behavior as we've
seen, ukraine, the support for this murderous regime in syria and now arming the taliban. these are all things that are clearly cut against russian interest, especially in that relationship with assad in syria. none of these groups are not monolithic. in the taliban case, they overlap with groups like the islamic movement of those passing who's pakistan. here you have a russian president acting against the russian people's interest in doing what i think -- doing it kind of reflexively. can we shift the relationship such that there is room for cooperation in key areas where our interests overlap? >> gen. mcmaster: >> chris: yout now. >> gen. mcmaster: we need changes in words on the nature of the relationship, but what we really need to see his change in behavior. >> chris: final question, 100
days end, is there a trump doctrine in foreign policy that is taking shape? we clearly seen with the president, more willing to use force than barack obama was both in the missile strike in syria, which got it up on the screen. if also that huge moab bombs dropped and examine stand. he doesn't seem to back that up with a clear strategy and fighting isis, winning the war in afghanistan. >> gen. mcmaster: his strategy is to advocate for the security and interests of the american people every day and to ensure that we are doing all we can to advance our security in the interest of the american people. if you see that with the acceleration of the campaign against isis. in iraq, and syria, also you see that with a very effective operations against isis and afghanistan, you see that with combining of military force when necessary, with diplomatic and economic actions.
not regarding military force as separate from what we want to achieve politically. i would say it's competing, recognizing that we are in competitions, interests are at stake and advocating for the security of the american people and our interests. he also has devolved responsibility down to where it belongs. the white house is no longer deploying three helicopter somewhere or having a strict cap on forces so that you deploy helicopters but don't send mechanics with them. contract guards, he's doing things that have made our policy execution much more sensible. >> chris: let the commanders in the field determine what they need? >> gen. mcmaster: yes, with civilian oversight, with policy direction and with the president ensuring that we are combining what we do it militarily to what we want to achieve politically and are diplomatic and economic efforts all interconnect.
>> chris: thank you for your time today. you're a straight talker. i would love to have you back to talk some more about all of this. >> gen. mcmaster: pleasure being with you. >> chris: we will be tracking what happens in the north korean peninsula this week. coming up, senate's top democrat chuck schumer gives his assessment of the president's first 100 days. she responds to charges of democratic obstruction. ♪ ♪ sfx: engine revving ♪ (silence) ♪ say carl, we have a question about your brokerage fees. fees? what did you have in mind? i don't know. $4.95 per trade? uhhh. and i was wondering if your brokerage
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health care and other issues, but the top democrat in the senate says mr. trump must change his approach if he wants help from the other side of the aisle. joining us now from new york, the senate democratic leader chuck schumer. senator, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> senator schumer: good to be back, chris. >> chris: you and the president has been in quite the war of words these last few day days. here's what the president had to say what about you last night in harrisburg. >> president trump: humor dominic schumer is weak on crime and wants to raise your taxes through the roof. he is a poor leader, i've known him a long time, and he's leading the democrats to doom. if >> chris: weak on crime, raising taxes, leading the democrats to doom. your response? >> senator schumer: look, the president, name calling doesn't work. let's look at values, let's look at issues.
i would say the president's first hundred days have hardly been a success. he's broken promises to the working people of america, unfulfilled others. when he campaigned he campaigned as a populist against the democratic and republican establishments. he's governing like someone from the hard right, wealthy special interest. let me go over a few areas. entree, he promised to be tough, backed off on china, backed off on mexico, on buy america. we have a good, strong bill, they've backed off that, a lot of this deal and infrastructure and water is going to be made overseas. on health care, he said he covered more people at less cost, his belt is just the opposite. maybe the worst is draining the swamp. his last days he said wall street won't be in washington. there are more in this cabinet and others, billionaires. i think one of the worst things he did on the swamp is allowing
lobbies to work in the administration on issues they lobbied on and they get the secret. if there's been promise after promise that has been either unfulfilled or broken. on infrastructure we sent him a trillion dollar path, explain, we haven't heard a peep out of him. the bottom line is very simple, the president, if he works with us, particularly on issues like trade and infrastructure, but on the issue so far, taxes and health care, he doesn't insult us at all, he puts together a plan that's very hard right, special interest, wealthy. then he says your way to be bipartisan is to support his plan. that's not how america works. >> chris: senator, the trump white house says a lot of what you say. this is not new, you've been saying this for a while now, you gave him an f on his first 100 days. let's take a look. on creating jobs for the middle
class, they note that he has signed executive orders to cut regulations and red tape. pull out of trade deals that he says heard america and build the keystone and dakota access pipelines. on draining the swamp he has imposed a five year lobbying band on administration officials and a lifetime ban on lobbying for foreign countries. you say he's broken his promises, senator, but there was a fallout this week and 96% of trump voters in the poll so they would vote for him all over, only 2% said they would not. >> senator schumer: i think it's going to take a while for people to see this, but his popularity ratings, if you want to measure him overall, not just his supporters, but with independence and democrats, they are way down. the lowest of any president. the point being here is that on so many of the major issues, have they passed a few executive orders? yeah, they have. most of them are studies, a few
of them are serious got knocked out by the courts. have they repealed a few regulations? but mainly for coal companies, for companies that want to take advantage of workers rights. they have broken their promises to the working people of america and americans are seeing that. that's why his popularity ratings are lower than any president in history. >> chris: senator, president trump says one of the problems is the constant obstruction by you and your party. back when republicans were in the minority, you liked to call them the party of no comment today, aren't you? >> senator schumer: let's take his biggest attempt so far, health care. that wasn't the democrats, he tries to blame the democrats, but he didn't need a single democratic vote to pass it in the house. he couldn't do it, he couldn't do it twice. he had to realize that they ought to back off repealing obamacare, we set over and over again if he backs off repealed will sit down and work with him to improve obamacare.
let's look at his next major issue, the tax bill. it seems to be a tax bill that is totally aimed at the wealthy interests, estate tax, get rid of it. you know how many people pay the estate tax? 5200 of the various wealthiest americans who have estates over $10 million. just one more, the pass-throughs on this tax bill, would allow hedge fund leaders, top wall street lawyers, ceos of major corporations to pay 15% while the workers bake 25- 30%? he's not governing from the middle, he's governing from a hard right, that's why at the regime has hardly had any major successes with the exception of justice gorsuch. we can't just dictate what he wants and not talk to us and say we must support him. >> chris: we got this, let's talk about the algor search
justice gorsuch. that's probably the biggest legislative issue that has come up. the nomination to the supreme court, the american bar association and some top democratic legal scholars said that he was clearly, yes, conservative, but clearly in their traditional mainstream and a distinguished judge. if president obama two nonminorities song is not a elena kagan were both confirmed easily with republican support, but with justice gorsuch, you let the person know my first partisan filibuster in the history of supreme court nomination, that doesn't sound the cooperation. >> senator schumer: let me just say this, so did judge roberts and alito get democratic support under president bush. gorsuch was nurtured and pushed forward by the heritage foundation and the federalist society. ideologically he is so far to the right, and i think the american people will see that as we see his -- let me just say
you have to let me answer this. >> chris: ruth bader ginsburg and soto's on mayor to the left. conservative presidents can nominate conservative judges and liberal presidents will nominate liberal judges. isn't that what an election is for? >> senator schumer: both "the new york times" and "washington post" hired independent experts to rate where he would be. the times that he would be to the right of every judge but thomas, the most conservative judge we had in history, and the post-analysis that he would be to the right of that. this is not a mainstream judge. he's not the mainstream. let me finish my comment. >> chris: you talk about "the new york times" and "washington post," former general for the democrats, the american bar association said he was in the traditional mainstream. >> senator schumer: they said ruth bader ginsburg -- they judged by their legal acumen, no one doubts course gorsuch's lel
acumen. his comments in earlier lecture that he is far, far to the right, siding with special interest, corporate interests. the average middle-class person, the only recourse they have is the courts. gorsuch repeatedly on issue after issue has been far to the right. in one case he even went against what thomas and alito said on education of special kids. appearance is not what matters, it's how he will rule that matters. >> chris: you talk about taxes, president trump unveiled -- it's not a whole plan, an outline of a tax reform plan. here is how treasury secretary explained it. >> what this is about is creating jobs and creating economic growth. that's what massive tax cuts and massive tax reform and simplifying the system is what
we are going to do. >> chris: senator, the government just announced that in the first quarter of this year, the economy gdp grew by seven tenths of 1%. that's the slowest rate in over three years. it doesn't this economy need some more growth? >> senator schumer: it needs growth, but it does not need to give the wealthiest people in america a huge tax break. he set himself a few months ago, the minuchin rule, the taxable would be to close loopholes. this tax plan is not like that at all. in addition it as anywhere from 3-$7 trillion to the deficit, many of our republican friends who railed against the deficit when president obama wanted to help middle-class people and the poor people are saying that this is okay, i think it's going to cause huge problems for america. if you aim tax breaks at the middle class, we are fine with it. if you aim them at the very wealthiest who are doing very
well so far, god bless them. that's not going to work. it's not what america needs. >> chris: senator, here is what you failed to mention in your critique of the tax plan, the president's plan would also double standard deduction, as you can see we cut it up on the screen, from 12,000 to 25,000 for married couples, 70% of americans, mostly low to moderate income earners, take the standard deduction and they would benefit from that. this would be a tax break for them. >> senator schumer: he also takes away things like the mortgage interest deduction, the local -- state and local property. >> chris: he does not take away the mortgage interest deduction. >> senator schumer: you cannot do it without the standard deduction. he takes away state and local as well and middle-class people get far less of a benefit, many of them were hurt, one estimate said that millions would pay
more in the rich do extremely well. they seem to get 90-95% of this tax plan. that is not how donald trump campaign, it's another broken promise, that is not with the american people want. that is not with the american people need. when you rush through a plan like heated and put it on one page, it's not going to be very good and that shows it. >> chris: senator schumer, thank you. i just want to say, i do not believe that you are leading the democratic party to doom, sir. >> senator schumer: thank you very much, chris. [laughs] spent that's all i will say, but i will give you that. if >> chris: up next we will bring in our sunday group to grade the president's first 100 days and look at his agenda going forward. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about mr. trump's new tax plan cannot just go to facebook or twitter, @foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air.
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rich, as a traditional conservative i think it's fair to say you're pretty concerned ahead of time about donald trump. for all the theatrics, and tell me if you think i'm wrong on this, as in the of these 100 days on taxes and spending in the cabinet and foreign policy, he's many pretty conventional republican conservative? >> i think that's exactly right. if you're living on another planet, and i know juan probably thinks he's been living on another planet for the last 100 days, if you're not getting any news about the tweets or the other controversies, your hearing about substantive things happening you would think this is a fairly conventional republican administration doing fairly conventional republican things. we went does that make you happy? >> happier than i expected. the greatest 100 days ever, as trump likes to portray it, neil gorsuch was a home run. significant progress on the border where illegal crossings are down. bake in complete is on
capitol hill where he still could get health care reform and tax reform, but he also could get shut out on both, although i think it likely or that he gets taxes rather than health care. >> chris: congresswoman edwards, how do you assess connect >> it feels like 100,000 days. i think he's been beaten back on immigration in the courts. he hasn't had a significant legislative achievement, health care has gone down twice and it's still a disaster. his tax plan is not really a tax plan, but i taxable it. it's a d- going on in the administration so far. >> chris: much better than chuck schumer will give him a straight f. >> you get points for signing your name. >> chris: the big news this week was that the white house came out not really with the plan but with an outline, bullet points, have a tax reform plan.
here's what candidate trump and treasury secretary had to say about the plan before they took office. >> president trump: barack obama has doubled during his fairly short period of years, he's doubled our national debt, doubled it. it will be close to $20 trillion when he leaves, $20 trillion. we have to get rid of at least a good portion of that. >> the upper class, we will simplify it, we will not have a tax cut for the upper class. >> chris: michael, even with the bare-bones outline, isn't it clear that this plan will add trillions of dollars to the national debt, contrary to what candidate trump said it would be a substantial tax break for the upper income people? >> we don't have a ballooning national debt because we don't tax enough. our tax rate, the percentage taken is well above the historic norm. the only way we will get out is with reform. seemingly moving towards
direction of doing something and we need to grow the economy. that is what is so exciting about what he's done in the first 100 days, he's come out with this tax reform plan and two he's put out a great plan and real action to rollback the regulatory state. >> chris: would you agree that this plan would add trillions to the national debt? >> we are spending way too much. >> chris: that was not my question. i'm not saying -- you could argue that we need spending cuts as well, but would you agree that this would add trillions to the debt? >> with this plan would do as it would move revenues from where they are today and put 20% of gdp back to the historic post-world war ii norm. i love the conversation you had with chuck schumer about taxes for the wealthy, he made a great point about the standard deduction. chuck schumer from new york state mentioned state and local tax cuts. 88% of the tax reduction would be for people who make over
$100,000. it is a subsidy for all of us around the country for states like new york that have terrible fiscal policies and it's a subsidy that overwhelmingly, 88%, will benefit people making over $100,000. if chuck schumer wants to be a class warfare populist needs to get rid of this ridiculous tax deduction for citizens in new york and new jersey. >> chris: we got a bunch of questions on president trump's tax cuts. there was a lot of concern about adding to the national debt. what will it do to the deficit? here is chuck's tweet where the budget cuts to match the reduced revenue? juan, how do you answer them and what to make of the white house contention that between economic growth and the reduction of some of the loopholes, closing loopholes and deductions at this tax cut will pay for itself? >> it's all speculative at this point. this is all conjecture.
when you have people in the conservative side like the tax foundation people, they say this will add 4-$6 trillion over the course of ten years, but say, to the budget. to me, i listen, i want to be sensitive to the idea because i think most americans would like to pay less tax and that we should simplify a very complex tax code, but what is striking here in washington is that the people who were these loud screeching hawks are no crickets, silent. nothing to say. what is going on here? you look at the idea of doing away with the estate tax, the alternative minimum tax, this is written by goldman sachs for goldman sachs in the white house by mr. shrum, who said i'm going to drain the swamp, i'm going to really look out for blue-collar workers in states that elected me in wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. those folks are getting hosed by this deal and somehow republicans, who previously -- especially under obama -- spending out of control, silent.
>> chris: we don't like silence. michael, to ask about one other subject before we in the segment. i want to ask about the heritage foundation that you are associated with. there are a lot of stories that the head of the heritage foundation is going to be out and that stephen bannon may become the new head, that this is going to be his safety net as he is forced out of the white house, what can you tell us connect >> that there is a lot of speculation in the room or in the media that never misses a chance to divide and attack conservatives. he's had a courageous career in washington and the conservative movement are far better because of that. the heritage foundation that is committed to formulating and promoting conservative policies, that is not going to change. >> chris: but is the outcome of the story that the board wants amount. >> i don't know, there is a lot of speculation and rumor and i'm not going to to the speculation
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>> all options are on the table. we want to bring him to his senses, not to his knees. >> chris: admiral harry harris, the top u.s. commander in the pacific emphasizing that the trump administration is not looking for a military confrontation with north korea and we're back now with the panel. clearly the policy of these three presidents, clinton, bush 43 and obama hasn't worked in
stopping north korea's nuclear weapons program. do you understand -- do you think that the -- do you understand the ways comic of what the trump strategy is. >> i think i do. try to get the attention primarily of the chinese and shake them loose and get them to pressure north korea more. i think -- the bush era negotiations didn't work, the obama policy of ignoring didn't work, it makes sense to catalyze something different. i think the options are so limited, especially the military options, it wouldn't shock me if this policy ends up running in fairy, fairly familiar routes. maybe some internal subversion through covert action if we can and then as much missile-defense in the region as possible. >> chris: congresswoman
edwards, if kim jong-un is determined as he seems to be in some people thought this wasn't black male, the chance of survival is to develop a nuclear weapon, that that will prevent an invasion or an attack, are we headed for a military confrontation, because you hurt at the top of the show, h.r. mcmaster, the national security advisor, we cannot allow that to happen. >> i think that's right. if i think it would never really used the red leverage that we can with china and frankly the leverage that each of these presidents have had -- there's been a refusal to use our leverage on china entree to get the chinese more engaged and trying to hold them north korea. >> chris: he really has made an offensive, he had the meeting with president xi, he keeps talking about that, isn't he working the chinese about as hard as he can? >> no, i don't think so.
frankly i think that the conversations around whether or not we will foot the bill for the thermal defense system, it's actually complicated things because it makes it appear like we are not standing with south korea as we should. i think it was good for general mcmaster to get that off the table may be until next time. our leverage with china is on trade. our leverage is not and just trying to ask the chinese to do what they need to do on that border with korea. >> chris: i want to switch objects, it was more trouble this week, still more trouble for former retired general michael flynn, briefly the president's national security advisor is a former military intelligence officer, he took over half a million dollars to do work for the government of turkey. he took more than $33,000 to
make a speech in moscow for russian television. and here this week was a top democratic committee. >> this letter explicitly warned general flynn as he entered retirement that the constitution prohibited him from accepting any foreign government payments without advance permission. >> chris: michael, there is reportedly no evidence that general flynn got that commission before he made that speech in moscow or took this big consulting job for turkey? >> no evidence that he got the commission, no evidence that he didn't disclose it, he actually did disclose it. every day that goes by is further justification of donald trump's decision to get him out of there and get him out early. he will be a distraction going forward, there's no doubt he will keep popping up. i think the real story is there is now a national security team in place with general mcmaster, who did such a credible job at the top of the
show. nikki haley up in new york, there's an incredible national security team that is navigating some of these crises and michael flynn could be in the news, but unfortunately not part of the national security apparatus. >> chris: let me pick up on that. in an interview on friday president trump claimed him and the lack of vetting and screening on him on his predecessor. take a look. >> he was approved by the obama administration at the highest level. when they say we didn't that, obama, i guess didn't that because he was approved at the highest level of security by the obama administration. >> chris: is michael flynn -- are his problems barack obama spoke to mike >> wow. talk about spin. my head is spinning. look, the fact is he had been in the intelligence agency going back to the bush administration. when he did, he did not
disclose. that's what we're talking about this week. he did not disclose any contact or received permission from taking payments from russia or turkey or anybody else. what you have here is a situation where michael flynn even subsequent to the renewal then engaged in contact and the acting attorney general went to the obama administration and said -- went to the trump administration and said this guy is lying about his contacts with the russians and we know that he also hid information from vice president pence and i donald trump, the president sat on that information. >> chris: the president says he was vetted by barack obama. >> he was vetted in '16 when he saw the renewal, but at that point he had not committed the acts we are discussing now. >> president obama fired him and then he went into the trump camp and said that this can't be
placed president obama at all. >> trump clearly showed bad judgment. the scandal has much more to do with flynn than with the trump administration of the so-called russian scandal. >> i don't think we know that yet and this is the reason we need a strong, independent investigation because i don't think we know that at all. we know what we know about flynn, but we don't know all the details and i think it's time for an independent investigation. >> chris: an independent investigation is not a good idea. >> there has generally been good cooperation between the democrats and republicans on those. there was a little bit of a brouhaha this past week. if the best that we can do -- there's a lot of things going back and forth, but let the investigations play out and let's talk about it when it's all over. >> chris: thank you, panel, see you next sunday. >> up next, our power player of the week, a tool that fights
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>> chris: donald trump became the first president this week since ronald reagan to address the national rifle association, but while he reaffirmed his support for gun rights, one of his agencies is using remarkable technology to solve crimes committed with guns. here's our "power player of the week." >> we could take the exact same make, model of the firearm and one will leave one impression in the next one will be a very unique, different impression. >> chris: in effect, fingerprints? >> correct. >> chris: jim ferguson is head of the firearms operation division and he's talking about
a national ballistics database that helps connect guns to crime scenes. some of the best evidence after a shooting are the spent bullet cases which have been ejected from guns. please take 2d and 3d images of the cartridges. if at the atf national laboratory outside washington they checked the new casings against the 3 million they already have from other crime scenes. looking for matches left by the firing pin, stress marks and the gun's cartridge ejector. >> they will match the two of them up and turn them -- it's almost like looking at it inside out so you can see the depth and the similarities in those steps. >> chris: how precisely can you tell this same gun fired this cartridge in chicago in this cartridge in denver? >> if the system itself is more than 95% accurate. for us to be able to link people, whether it be a suspect in one shooting and no information in the other
shooting, now the potential suspect because those two incidents are related by the same gun. >> loaded to the magazine while. we are ready to fire two rounds. >> chris: one guns are found at crime scenes they can be fired into a tank water. you can see the bullet case that is ejected from the gun. the markings from the cartridge can then be checked in the database to see if that going has been used in other crimes. if a criminal as filed off a gun serial number, that's no problem for atf to recover. all of this raises a sensitive question. >> chris: you enter the evidence from crime scenes, do you take this kind of fingerprint of a gun at the point of manufacture? >> no. we do not have any sort of a manufacturer point on the front end because we are prohibited from having any sort of a gun registry and this allows us to
keep it so that only crime guns are entered into the system. >> chris: atf has even set up this mobile forensic lab to take its ballistic database into the field. how effective is it as a crime-fighting tool? >> where trying to identify very small population of sugars were actually pulling the trigger and causing our communities considerable harm. >> chris: not surprisingly, the city of chicago is the number one user of the system adding 1,000 spent bullet casings to the system each month. this program, be sure to watch fox news channel tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for the premier of the fox news specialist. cohost derek boling sits down with president trump for the first one. that's it for today, have a great week, and we will see you next "fox news sunday" ."
well good morning to you, welcome to mornings on 2, it is sunday april 30 i'm claudine wong. >> i do too. i think i need it. we all need a little motivational music. good morning everyone i'm frank mallicoat. we've got another gorgeous day on tap. we'll tell you all about it in a moment. but first here is some headlines. we begin in washington, d.c. the white house correspondence dinner usually a big night of humor and a bit of roasting for the sitting president, but this year well things were a little bit different. >> president trump refuse today come. we're going to tell you where he decide today go instead, and we'll talk about the message from some of the big speakers of the night. thousands of people gathered in oakland for a march for the environment. >> they did. more on the climate march. the dozens of community groups who attended. we'll have more on