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>> chris: i'm chris wallace. president trump challenged on two fronts. setbacks to his impeachments defense and a tenuous cease-fire in syria. ♪ >> if ice is totally under guard. the turkey is also guarding separately they are watching over everything. >> chris: vice president pence and secretary of state pompeo negotiated a pause in fighting between the turks and the kurds. to speak of the agreement today allows us to go from where we are today to really establish a buffer zone buffer zone. >> chris: but is it a cease fire a surrender? and -- >> i have news for everybody. get over it. is going to be political
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influence and policy. >> chris: comments from trump's chief of staff trigger a firestorm whether there was a quid pro quo with ukraine. >> i think he clarified in a statement there was no quid pro quo. >> chris: today an exclusive interview with white house chief of staff mick mulvaney. then, mayor pete buttigieg on the rise after going after rivals at the latest democratic debate. we will ask him what his path to the 2020 nomination. plus nancy pelosi and donald trump in their first face-off since democrats launched their impeachment inquiry. >> that crazy nancy, she is crazy. >> yet us at very serious meltdown. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel about the growing hostilities between the president and the speaker of the house. and our power player of the week. he found the titanic, now he wants to solve the mystery of what happened to amelia
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ehrhardt. all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ and hello again from fox news in washington. we began with breaking news. president trump announced by tweet last night he's backing off his controversial decision to hold the g7 cement next year at his own resort. he says the search will now begin for a new site. but the president is now under fire even from a growing number of republicans. g.o.p. congressmen voted by more than 2-1 against his policy in syria. white house chief of staff mick mulvaney said the president at a political quid pro quo from usa to new crane. mulvaney later denied he said it. and more damaging testimony in the house impeachment investigation. in a moment we will talk with the president chief of staff who just flinched when i said that but first let's bring in
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kevin corke with the latest from the white house. >> a precarious pause just describes the tenuous nature of the circumstance on the ground in syria as sporadic skirmishes spread over the region. even as we learn much more about the u.s. strategy for american forests there. >> the current game plan is for those forces to reposition into western iraq, the ones coming up. that original 1,000. and then to missions. one is to help defend iraq in two is to perform a counter isis mission. spiel back in washington they impeachment drum beat feet reached a fevered pitch is house intelligence commuted chair interviewed a cascade of trump administration officials but ukraine and a possible quid pro quo tying usa to cooperation with a probe into the biotin business dealings. incredibly the gulf between house democrats in the white house seem to grow when speaker of the house nancy pelosi stormed out of a white house meeting, accusing
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the president of having a meltdown over a bipartisan house vote rebuking his blood in syria. all is the president on saturday rescinded his decision to host next year's g7 summit at . >> can you at least understand and acknowledge at least the perp appearance of impropriety makes us wince and this is something you maybe want to reconsider. >> he got over that a long time ago. we absolutely believe this is
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the best place to have it and we are going to have it there. >> that was dead and this is now. in that tweet chris the president mentioned to camp david as a possible location for next year's g7 summit committed last hosted the g8 back in 2012. chris. >> chris: kevin corke reporting from the white house thank you from that. white house's chief of staff. >> flinched a little bit because that's what people are saying is that but i didn't say that but i'm looking forward to the conversation. >> chris: all right let's have a conversation. here's my first question. why did you say that in that briefing that president trump had ordered a quit pro quote that investigating the democrats, that aid to ukraine depended on investigating the democrats why did you say that. >> again that's not what i said that's what peoe said i said. i'll say to get and hopefully people will listen to this. there are two reasons we held up the aid. we talked about this at some length the first one was the
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rampant corruption in ukraine. ukraine by the way is so bad in ukraine that in 2014 congress passed a law making us requiring us to make sure the corruption was living in the right direction. corruption is a big deal and everyone knows it. the president was also concerned that whether or not other nations, specifically european nations were helping with foreign aid to the crane as well. we talked about that for quite a while. i did that then mentioned in the past of the president had mentioned to me from time to time about the dnc server. he had mentioned this over to other people publicly. even mention it to president zelensky and the phone call but it wasn't collected to the aid. that's where i fit ink people got sidetracked up the press conference. two reasons for holding back the eight -- >> let me pursue that the because i believe that anybody listening to what you said in that briefing could come to only one conclusion, let's play what you said. >> he also mentioned to me in the past that the corruption related to the dnc server absolutely, no question about that. but that's it and that's what we
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held up the money. >> what you just described is a quid pro quo. as funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democrats server happened as well. >> we do that all the time with foreign policy. spew when asked specifically by jonathan karl was investigating democrats one of the conditions for holding up the aide. it was that part of the quid pro quo and you said it happens all the time. >> g.o.a.t. back and ask dominic watch what i said before that. there is a long answer about corruption. then i said the exact same thing i just said now which is that he mentioned in passing gas, but the reason we held back the aide with the two reasons i mentioned. i can prove it sealed. the aide flowed. once we were able to satisfy ourselves that corruption was actually that they were doing better with it we got that information from our folks from the conversation and once we were able to establish we had the office of management and budget to research and other countries aide to ukraine it turns out they don't get any
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lethal aid but they don't get a considerable amount of money. once those two things were cleared the money flowed. there was never any question between the flow of money i in e server. >> chris: i hate to go through this but you said what you said in the fact is after that exchange with jonathan carl you were asked another time why the aide was held up. what was the condition for the aide. you didn't mention two conditions, you mentioned three conditions. let's listen to all thrf them because you stated it very clearly let's listen. >> three issues. the corruption in the country, whether or not other countries were participating in support of the ukraine, and whether or not they were cooperating in an ongoing investigation with our department of department of justice must be that's completely legitimate. >> not only did you say that investigating the democrats was one of the three conditions, not to that you would just said that you would talk about coming
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investigating the democrats was part of the quid pro quo. you also said if i made it was part of the justice department investigation into the origins of the russia probe. the fact is that not only the depressed think you you said it, here's what a statement that was put out by the senior justice department official. if the white house is withholding aide in regards to the cooperation of any investigation to the department of justice that is news to us. everybody thinks that's not what you said and you didn't. you said right there, three points not to. >> a couple different things you said i said there was a quid pro quo, i never use that language. >> chris: you are asked by jonathan carl and you said that happens all the time. >> reporters will use their language all the time. my language never said quid pro quo but that let's get to the heart of the matter. look at that list of three things. what was i talking about? things that were legitimate for the president to do. it's legitimate for the president to want to know what's going on it with the ongoing
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investigation into the server. everybody acknowledges that at least i think most normal people do. it's completely legitimate to ask about that. number two, it's legitimate to tie the aide to corruption, it's legitimate to tie the aide to foreign aid to other countries. that's what i was talking about. can i see how people looked at the wrong way? absolutely. there isn't a quid pro quo. chris, you've been in these briefings you know how back and forth it is you kw how rapid-fire it is. look to the facts on the ground things that you can actually sort of certified and what should put this issue to bad is that the money flowed without any connection whatsoever to the dnc server. >> chris: in your first answer that you gave you said that's why we held up the money. for if you just said here that it was for two reasons, now you are acknowledging it was for three reasons, if you held up the money for three reasons that's a quid pro quo. got a satisfy us on that. maybe the president backed off that spot that was the proposition here. >> not acknowledging there's
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three reasons. >> chris: you said three reasons. >> i recognize that. go back to what actually happened in the real world. go to the phone call. which we have released i hope you get a chance to talk about that. >> chris: would do right now. it's bigger the president never mentions the eight or at all in the phone call. as an seo by the way need you to do this this in this or else the money won't flow. we all know enough about this president that he feels very strongly about something he's going to put that out there directly and that didn't happen. i recognize that a folks that i didn't speak clearly maybe on thursday folks misinterpreted what i said about the facts are absolutely clear and they are there for everybody to see. >> chris: in the briefing you flatly denied any connection between holding up the aide and investigating joe biden and his son, right? in his phone call with president zelensky, president trump specifically mentions the biden. give me a favor, trompe l'oeil or pushed all summer that it was
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investigating the company that paid hundred biden. a former investigation official testified before congress john bolton was so disturbed by the way you are directing people to work with rudy giuliani he said i am not part of whatever drug deal that he was speaking metaphorically, of whatever drug deal the u.s. diplomat and mulvaney are cooking up. no question you're following the president's orders but your fingerprints are all over linking aid to ukraine with investigating the biden's. >> that's not true, i'll take one of those of the time which is the bolton thing because i read that no surprise because john bolton never complained to me about it, nobody had nsc ever complained to me about anything that was going on. i didn't see the testimony this week because none of us have seen the testimony which is another story entirely. i did get a chance to read his opening statement and he said that both the never complained to them, fiona hill ever got a chance to complain to them. >> chris: fiona hill is the one the testified come that's
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where the quote came from. she complained to her boss. john bolton. >> who did what? >> chris: who told her to go immediately to a lawyer at nsc and to complain about it. >> who works for john bolton crit mark john bolton didn't say anything to anybody doesn't that raise a red flag? the first 20 talk but of the president's phone call because of the end of the day that's what this is really about. that's why we are here is the president phone call with ukraine. eve done the same thing to come i don't blame you personally commute on the same thing many news outlets have done. you said to me a favor and then immediately to the biden's. go look at the transcript of the phone conversation. it's to be a favor and take a look at the dnc server then he talks about corruption in the ukraine come he talks about rudy giuliani, the president of the ukraine top comes he talks about a closed cooperation between the countries. he talks about corruption come he talks about getting a new ambassador to the u.s. the president gets on and talks about bill barr, the president talks about a new ambassador between our countries, and then
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the very end of that passage mentions the bidens. everybody else puts it on puts it on tv and says do me a favor look at the bidens. go look at the transcript yourself. >> chris: let's turn to syria. defense secretary esper overnight has said that those thousand troops who were being moved out of syria are moving to iraq. they are not as the president says coming home. >> eventually. the quickest way to to get them out of danger was to get them into a rack. keep in mind what you are facing here and i think literally the number was 28. you had 28 u.s. special forces between tens of thousands of soldiers on one side and tens of thousands of soldiers on the other side. i hope that when we release the letter this week it puts the bed this nonsense about how the president supposedly green-lighted this invasion. nothing would be further from the truth and i think the letter made that painfully clear. >> chris: the letter has been released. >> this is what we deal with in
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the administration all the time. whether it's on the impeachment or on syria. people said all there a green light. the president green-lighted this and that's what the press reports. we put out facts that absolutely put that the bad and nobody comes back and says well we were wrong about that. go back to the beginning of the impeachment, how did that start crit mark there were supposedly a transcript with eight references to the bidens and a quid pro quo on foreign aid. absolutely false. however but he never went back and said we were wrong about that either. >> chris: running out of time and i do have several more questions. i just want to go back to the briefing for one minute. after the briefing and all the blowback and the criticism, did you ever offer or thing to offer the president your resignation question mike >> absolutely not. >> chris: was that ever discussed? >> absolutely not. >> chris: okay. i'm very happy working there. that i have the perfect press conference? no. the facts were on our side. i didn't get a chance to talk about some of the stuff i wanted
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to talk about at the press conference which was for example senator mendez sending a letter to the ukraine saying if you don't cooperate with mueller there will be repercussions for you. i have another chance to talk about a quid pro quo, joe biden admitting that he said he was going to cut off funding and thus the prosecutor got fired. if that's not a quid pro quo i don't know what it is. i have another chance to do everything i wanted to but i still think i'm doing a pretty good job as the chief of staff and i think the president agrees. >> chris: there seems to be a growing number of republicans in congress who are if not breaking with the president, distancing themselves from the president. mitch mcconnell the senate majority leader who wrote a scathing article about syria this week. i'm gonna put up one of his quotes. withdrawing u.s. forces from syria is a great strategic mistake and a strategic nightmare for our country. house republicans voted against lee trump policy in syria 129-60. more than 2-1.
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i talked to a very well could not bid republican or washing business week, somebody whose name you would know well, who says that if the houseotes to impeach and it gets to a trial in the senate there is now a 20% chance he believes, obviously it's an estimate, now a 20% chance enough republicans will vote with the democrats to remove the president. >> that's just absurd but let's deal with the issue of syria. >> no let's deal with the issue of whether republicans, you're losing your support. >> same thing. the comment about 20% chance the person clearly doesn't know what they're talking about. talk about the reaction other republicans and democrats up on the hill to the decision in syria. president knew that was going to happen. he recognizes the fact that it's not a politically popular in this town to make the decision that he made to remove the troops out of syria. he ran on and come he told people he would do this if you want and he's doing it now. >> and i just want to ask you is there any concern that the president is losing those it's a
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part of republicans in congress question mike >> the president's extraordinary popular back home, more popular in the swing districts now that impeachment is started, they have to go home eventually as well. do i have to understand that there are certain folks especially the neoconservative wing of the party that are upset about the siri decision question mike i absolutely do. elections have consequences on foreign policy that's where we started this conversation and fortunately they do. >> chris: two final questions. one of the people who was testifying in congress this week in the house impeachment investigation also said that he was so concerned about hunter biden getting that job in ukraine in 2015 that he went to the vice president staff come up clement said this looks really bad. and he was turned away. your reaction. >> good. i'm surprised i haven't heard about it since. my guess is if the news media would have reported on at very next day. >> chris: i'm asking you about
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it. >> i'm hearing about it for the first time i look forward to finding out more about it. >> chris: it's been reported widely in the past 24 hours. >> i've been busy in the last 48 hours chris. >> chris: let me ask you if something else maybe you don't know this but president trump has decided after he put you out there in that briefing to announce he is decided that he is not going to how hold it at doral. he blames it on the hostile media and their democratic partners but again he was getting hammered by republicans. why did he cave? >> we talked about it at great length last night and it's not lost on me that if we made the decision on thursday we wouldn't have had the press conference on thursday regarding every thing else but that's fine. we did talk about it last night and i honestly think what he is out in the tweet was real. the president isn't one for holding back his feelings and emotions about something. he was obviously surprised at the level of pushback. at the end of the day he still considers himself to be in the hospitality business and he saw
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an opportunity to take the biz it biggest leaders around the world and he wanted to put them on the best show, the best visit they possibly cut it and he was very comfortable doing it at durell and i think we were all surprised at the level of pushback. i think it's the right decision and love to find somewhere else in my guess is we will find somewhere else that the media won't like for another reason. >> chris: i have to pick up you say he considers himself in the hospitality business come he is the president of the united states. >> that's his background. at this i used to be in the real estate business. i don't know what you used to do before you were in the media. >> chris: nothing that's all i've ever done. >> he wanted to put on a shelf. he wanted to take care of folks. he's in the hotel business or at least he was before he was the president. >> chris: forget the media, does he understand that it looked lousy? >> i think he thinks people think it looks lousy. could we have put on an excellent g7 at doral? absolutely. will we put on an excellent g7's morals customer guess we will. >> chris: things are coming and it's always good to talk to you.
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>> for three straight years radical democrats have been trying to overthrow the results of a great, great election. it may be, may be the greatest election in the history of our country. >> chris: president trump rallying supporters in dallas against the house impeachment investigation. it's time now for our sunday group. former republican congressman, jason chaffetz. fox news political analyst, juan williams. former democratic congress women, jane harman. and from the wall street journal, kimberley strassel author of the new book, resistance at all cost. congressman jeff escamilla my talk with you. how damaging do you think the last week has been to president trump. testimony from a number of current and former national security officials that the
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president had rudy giuliani's personal lawyer running off the books operations when it came to ukraine. whatever you make of them, mick mulvaney's comments about a quid pro quo. >> jason: i wish there was video to show what was going on in these impeachment hearings because they haven't been open. i think he lied when he went to the committee to talk about that. i don't think they're laying a glove on donald trump. out in the heartland of the dallas, texas, as of the world, it's not moving the meter at a all. >> chris: congresswoman harman how strong is the case is being built out against the president? >> i'm not in the room either but to be clear these are desperate depositions, they are not hearings. there are various people were talking under oath. republicans and democrats are in the room. the questions are primarily being asked by counsel. it republicans and democrats have equal time to ask questions. >> chris: enough about the process what you think about the
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substance? >> the substance leaks out and it's in the press but i think it hasn't been a good week for the president. two good things happened. one is, i think sort of kind of good, he backed off on the china tariffs. that's a big deal because the economy was about to soft into a point that it really hurt him. the other sort of kind of big deal is our troops are moving to iraq, they are not leaving the area. there will be some counter isis movement, that does not mean i think his syria decision makes any sense. i agree with mitch mcconnell. >> chris: the biggest surprise of my interview was mick mulvaney doesn't seem to have known about the revelations this week about hunter biden. hunter biden finally answered questions about his business dealings in ukraine, take a look. >> if your last name wasn't biden do you think it would've been asked to be on the board of this company question work >> i don't know. probably not. there's a lot of things that wouldn't have happened in my
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life if my last name wasn't biden. >> chris: we also learned that one oone of those state departmt officials who testified before the house impeachment investigation this week was so disturbed in 201-5100 biden started working for this ukrainian energy company at least the appearance that it seemed to be self-dealing. he went to the vice president himself and said this really looks bad and he was turned away. how big of a deal? >> it is a big deal. it surprised no one though because prior to the press deciding that this was a whole issue that we are not allowed to talk about. joe biden did nothing wrong. they were writing all the stories about this" inc. former officials who worked for joe biden saying they were uneasy with the situation. they didn't like that it was happening. the issue here to me has always been people use the word corrupt the it always used to be the
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appearance. whether or not hunter biden was profiting off of his father's position. you don't really need to go much further than that. it is hurting joe biden out there with primary voters. >> chris: let's take up on that one because the president who doesn't like the back down committed backed down overnight and said okay i'm not going to hold the summit next june, the g7 summit in doral, come his own resort that was really a lot of squealing about it from republicans and democrats who said it appeared to be this self-dealing, didn't one of the reasons he would've done it was because it seemed to blunt his case against joe biden. >> i think it did. the cancellation is a tiny step in the right direction but again this is so blatant and over-the-top self-dealing on the part of the president, putting his self interest, or as mick mulvaney said to you, his history as a man in the hospitality business, about the national interest.
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i think that then speaks to behold ukrainian deal. on a larger point i think it's one of the campaign promises that he broke. he said he was going to divest himself of all business interests. this is a cancellation is a step in the right direction but think for a second about the idea that he has no problem appointing a jared kushner come his son-in-law, as some kind of emissary to the middle east and he's dealing with the crown prince of saudi arabia, a man who's killed journalists and making excuses. >> chris: that's just a decision, and as mick mulvaney set about about rudy giuliani, the president get the decide who he wants to do his business. that's what the policy issue. >> again you're putting your family and positions of critical policy. it's apart from the normal operation of foreign policy in the country. it's like the saddle foreign policy that was run by giuliani. again, in my mind you look at doral and the reason i say it's part of a pattern, doral was a struggling property come here is the president saying i'm going to help my own business and
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forever branded as the prestigious pot because of the g7 being held there. >> look, this is a very competent subject i'm glad that he decided not to do it because i do think it blunt his message about the appearance of conflict with hunter biden. there is a very complicated discussion to be had about whether or not donald trump's business empire has actually profited from the visit or are likely as much of the reporting is shown is probably taken ahead. there's good evidence that his bookings are down out a lot of his places. >> chris: nobody made him run for president. >> i'm just saying i'm not arguing poor president, and to sing look at the numbers. you can't just run around and say the president is profiting off of his presidency. >> it's not about profit, you can't take any compensation from a foreign government. >> he never had a discussion of the court system about what the imam meal kate claus mentz.
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>> chris: i've got a save time for the next panel we have to take a break. up next pete buttigieg joins us in washington after a debate that has some democrats saying he can compete with joe biden as the centrist voice of the party. is that there's a lot to learn. grow with google is here to help you with turning ideas into action. putting your business on the map, connecting with customers, and getting the skills to use new tools. so, in case you're looking, we've put all the ways we can help in one place. free training, tools, and small business resources are now available at
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than $1 million in campaign contributions in the first 24 hours after the debate. joining us now is the mayor of south bend, indiana. welcome back. >> good to be with you. >> chris: let's start with your latest poll numbers in the real cure politics average of recent surveys you are in fourth place now at 5.8%, fourth in iowa with 13%, and fourth in new hampshire at 8.7%. as a candidate from the midwest and also looking at those numbers, don't you have to finish in the top at least two or three in iowa or you are done? >> is certainly the case that a strong performance and i was going to be critical to us winninthe nomination. that's what we are building towards. we have a terrific ground game there, over 22 field offices now and 100 organizers. i think a message that's really connecting with islands. democrats there, first and foremost of course want to know we can defeat and replace president trump. we also want to know how the
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policies we are putting forward are going to affect our lives and whether it's medicare for all who wanted or the vision we ar putting forward on any number of issues. we find that it is resonating but even now there are so many islands who maybe haven't narrowed down to a top three or so but are taking their time evaluating their choices and we have our work cut out for us to close the deal between now and the caucus. >> chris: you have stalled to some degree in the polls as we just pointed out. at least nationally, ever since that terrible police shooting in south bend, indiana. folks noticed a more aggressive performance by you in this last debate taking on elizabeth warren on medicare for all, tulsi gabbard on troops in syria and beto o'rourke on come buybacks. take a look at you. >> your signature, senator, is to have a plan for everything except this. >> race that is dead wrong. i don't lead lessons from you on
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courage. political or personal. >> chris: was not a conscious effort to jump-start your campaign? >> larry are also topics i'm very passionate about when it comes to what is being done to not just the middle east for example but to american credibility. the fact that right now people who put their lives on the line trusting that the united states would have their backs and are not betrayed a period of the fact that u.s. troops in the field feel that they are honor has been stolen from them by their commander in chief. how can you not be fired up about something like that? this is a season for us to lay out what we care about, what we are passionate about, and what is different among each of the candidates. i want to make sure there is no question in any voters mind how their life would be different under my presidency then if any of the others were elected. >> chris: one of the distinctions you drew sharply it is you said that 2021, if a democrat is elected president, that the country make historic
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gains on health care and immigration and guns, but not if they push too far and promised to much. do you think that some of these solutions that are being offered, whether it's on climate change, medicare for all by senators warren and sanders, are too drastic? >> i think we have a chance to build an american majority around a bold action. it is the case that we could record that a majority through purity tests. take the example of this medicare question. i'm proposing could medicare for all who want it. it means we create a version of medicare, everybody can get access to it, and if you want to keep your private plan we are okay with that. i think that's a better policy then kicking people off of their plan. i also think that it's something that more americans can get behind. when you think about the condition our country is going to be and, when this presidency comes to an end one way or another, when you thing about pork torn apart by politics we are going to be, a polarized and
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divided this country it has come of this to me is not a political question that the cost question of governing. the good news is we can govern in a very forward and leading direction but we have to make sure we do it in a way that moves towards unifying versus further polarizing the american people. >> chris: not surprisingly the left is firing back at you and elizabeth warren says that she will not participate in big fund-raisers, even if she is the democratic nominee against trump next fall. you said this, let's put it on the screen. we are not going to beat him with pocket change. here's how congresswoman alexandria a causal cortez responded. a small dollar grassroots campaigns a.k.a. what buttigieg insult is pocket change, out fund-raising by millions. our nation's leader should be working to the end of the air of big money politics not protected. so what do you have to say to aoc? >> first of all you don't go from mayor to south bend to a competitive presidential candidate without knowing a
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thing or two about grassroots campaigning. my campaign is fueled by the contributions of almost 600,000 individual donors. most of those are small contributions. what i am saying is that we can't go into this fight against donald trump with one hand tied behind our backs. the president of the united states and his allies just raised 100 to $25 million. they will pull out all of the stops to stay in power. i think we have a responsibility to the country to make sure that we go into this fight as democrats with everything that we have god. not unilaterally disarming. we indeed need to end the air of big money politics, that's why campaign finance reform is so important and it will never happen as long as the folks currently in charge stay there. >> chris: the last time you and i talked was in august and i pointed out to you, perhaps not to charitably come that you are at 0% of the polls among african-americans. there's no pull out in the last few days, you are now at 2%
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support among african-americans when we last talked you described a big outreach to minority communities, the african-american community, why isn't it working? >> for this to me it isn't about the polls. >> chris: i think it is about the polls. >> in order to do well you need to deserve to do well. we are focusing on the substance of what i have to offer. boaters want to know how their lives will be different and in the case of african-american voters they want to know what my agenda is for blac americans. we are putting forward the most comprehensive plan of any candidate to tackle systemic racism in this country. it's everything from empowering to pack entrepreneurs and if you link business development to making sure we deal with discrimination in housing and in health, the cutting incarceration in this country by 50% because we know that the part criminal justice system disproportionately harms african-americans. we need to continue making that case commits extremely well received, whenever i had the chance to offer it up but there are a lot of voters who are
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still sizing up their options. who need to feel like they need to know you and our job is to do that in a short amount of time. >> chris: i want to press down on this just a little bit because you talk about needing to deserve it. voters trying to understand who you are. you were supposed to attend a big fund-raiser in chicago on friday and one of the hosts was the same city attorney who worked very hard to block release of this video of police shouting look want mcdonald's, the lawyer backed out of the fund-raiser. he also donated $5600 to your campaign particularly at a time when african-americans are trying to get to know you. isn't that the kind of mistake mayor that you can't afford to make? >> this came to my attention in the morning within an hour it had been taken care of. the situation there and justice and transparency for le quan mcdonald is much more important to me then a campaign
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contribution and we did the right thing once it came to my attention. >> can you understand where people say this is a guy who was taking money held by the city attorney. speak of them he took care of it. the biggest question on people's minds is how is my life going to be different especially when that sun comes up that first day after donald trump's president. the agenda and putting forward come the issues i want to tackle i think will speak to black voters and to all voters who are seeking a better life in this country and seeking to turn the page from the chaos and the corruption that we are living under right now. >> chris: mayor to be 24 thank you for your time always good to talk to you, safe travels on the campaign trail. when we come back turkey agrees to a temporary cease-fire in syria. we will ask our sunday group what it means for u.s. interests in the middle east. ♪
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>> the cars are very happy, turkey is very happy, the united states is very happy, and you know what? civilization is very happy. it's a great thing for civilization. >> chris: president trump with an optimistic assessment of the cease-fire brokered by vice president pence this week in turkey and we are back with the panel. congresswoman harmon what you think of the deal that the u.s. made with turkey? >> i think sadly pants and his advisors were scrambling on the plane to come up with some kind of announcement of that would make sense. i salute pens for trying. however i don't think he succeeded, i think a deal under these circumstances was impossible and where we are now is the cease-fire is not holding
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come of the kurds, our allies who lost 11,000 people on the battlefield, our big mass occurred. there is now a vacuum being failed by isis, by syrian government, and by russia. guess what? israel, our deepest ally in the region, is now surrounded by iran on the syrian border, by iran making the missiles from libya, or from lebanon smarter on lebanese border and by iran and tehran. this is creating a neck substantial threat and leading to really dangerous circumstances. finally isis is regrouping in the isis fighters that are regrouping are from europe and they will get through the turkish border and attack in europe. >> chris: congressman chaffetz even a lot of staunch trump supporter's inside the republican party have real problems with the agreement and the actions by the president in northern syria. your thoughts? >> i think the agreement was good although temporary. we will see how it stands above
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and beyond the last few days. the president of the right thing come he did exactly what is campaigning on doing it. i believe if you can't go and fight to win the war then you bring them home. you know what? if he set it in the house feel so strongly then pass a piece of legislation. don't just do some little slap on the hand and right an op-ed and say to skip test mr. president. >> chris: you're talking about mitch mcconnell? >> yes. they should pass a war powers authorization and do that. put on your big boy pants and do that but the president is doing the right thing. >> chris: and then there was the meeting on syria that was sold as the white house this week. here is the indelible picture of it. it ended with president trump calling speaker pelosi depending on the account you heard, either a third rate or a third grade politician, not a complement in either case. and pelosi getting up as you see here and walking out. here's what they said afterwards. >> that crazy nancy, she is crazy. >> i pray for the president all
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the time and i tell them that i pray for his safety and this that of his family. this was a sit very serious meltdown on the part of the president. >> chris: not only can't they legislate in congress anymore they've apparently can't even stand to be in each other's presence. >> to me what's key here is that i think you see from the house about that even republicans were shocked out of their silence and responding to president trump. i think you said it earlier, 129 republicans voted with the democratic majority soaked it clearly showed there was bipartisan outreach and allowing our allies, the kurds, to be slaughtered by the turks in this way. in response to your question about the meeting i think that nancy pelosi, chuck schumer speaker of the house, the minority leader in the senate mower strong enough to confront the president in the meeting, to get into space and say this is the wrong policy and the president responded with elementary school schoolyard
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bullying the third rate politicians. nancy pelosi is no third grade politician by anybody's measure. i think the key here is the policy, chris, the policy is the problem. to be clear i think this is a response that congressman chaffetz point this is not about bringing troops home, there are only 150 troops involved, the president just sent 2,000 to saudi arabia. to me this is about the president pulling our influence out of there, allowing our allies to be slaughtered, and compromising america's integrity and a promise to our allies. it's a foreign policy quagmire. >> chris: kim i wanted you to address a different aspect of that which is that both sides talk about being able to walk and chew gum at the same time try to get some things done, one thing they particularly talk about is passing the u.s. trade deal with mexico and canada, can they get anything done between the impeachment investigation, the bitterness from that and the
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fact that you could say we are already in a full-fledged campaign certainly by the end of the year we are in a full-fledged campaign. >> whatever happened in that meeting almost doesn't matter because what it exposes was what you just said. when democrats decided they were going to go forward with this impeachment inquiry it created a new dynamic in washington and this is one of the consequences of it. i do not see how anybody gets anything done while they are in the middle of my think about it from the trump white house perspective. they are trying to remove him from office. that just doesn't make it a very difficult circumstance where you'd then sit down jake hanson play nice. i agree everybody would want there to be progress and i think the best thing the trump white house could do would be to infect rise above it and talk about governing and talk about what they've accomplished and what they want to accomplish. i'm not quite sure that is going to be the dynamic. >> chris: congresswoman i have less than a minute left. does impeachment and politics play it in any think act as anything get done in washington
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between now and 2020? >> that was the history of the clinton impeachment. every thing stops. government funding runs out on november 21st in the middle of whatever it is that we are going to see. i think it would be tragic if once again we put federal workers and the economy through that nightmare. the congress has to pass the budget bill. there has to be progress. i think the leadership of congress somehow will find a way forward. >> chris: so the most they can do is keep the government running? all right. thank you panel, see you next sunday. up next hour power player of the week, the 82-year-old mystery what happened to amelia, ehrha ehrhardt? relationships. when you use location technology, you can see where things happen, before they happen. with esri location technology, you can see what others can't.
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>> chris: it is one of the enduring mysteries of the 20th and now the 21st century, but a renowned explorer is determined to solve it. here is our power player of the week. >> she said i can do anything and then went out and did it. disputant robert ballard is talking about immediately ehrhardt, the world-famous aviator who is this mysterious disappearance 82 years ago has
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only alex to her legend. in august, ballard led an expedition to find some trace of ehrhardt or her plane. it is the subject of a new "national geographic" documentary. >> he's shedding new light on one of the world's most captivated mysteries. >> it exists, it's not the loch ness monster, that plane exists which means you can find it. >> chris: ehrhardt was on or around the world trip in 1937 when her plane vanished in the pacific. >> for years she pushed the boundaries of what was humanly possible. shattering a dozen records in the air while breaking barriers for women on the ground. >> chris: the leading theory is she ran out of gas near a tiny a toll, and that's where ballard took a ship, the
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nautilus. spending two weeks searching the coral reef with surface vessels, drones, and remote underwater vehicles. >> just hours and hours and hours and hours searching out at night a flashlight. you never know. >> chris: 34 years ago ballard led another expedition. and shocked the world by discovering the titanic. how does this search compared to searching for and finding titanic? >> this one is tougher. a lot tougher. >> chris: ballard feels a kinship with ehrhardt, they are both kansans, but there is more. >> i always have people say you are nuts and you can't do it and then i go do it and. >> chris: is there some amelia ehrhardt did not to? >> you bet there's a lot of amelia ehrhardt in the sky. >> chris: for two weeks ballard and his team searched the area on land in case ehrhardt to survive crash and
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underwater. >> while. it looks like coral but it's got a hold. >> chris: a perfect hole. want a simple idea question mike >> just flip it over. we pounded the area, this was a full court press with everything we had. in the end what did you find? >> we didn't find the plane. >> chris: how big of a disappointment? >> i know where it isn't. >> chris: ballard says that his science commute down dark alleys and then don't go down them again. now he plans another expedition into years elite using new technology to another site nearby. >> i love the toys as much as i love the hard. chris: when you get to do both here. >> absolutely. i love developing the technology, going out and using it, and going home and sharing the story. >> chris: the special exhibition, amelia, premieres tonight on the "national geographic" channel. time now for one final note.
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we have declared ourselves the unofficial sunday show of the washington nationals. this week they clinched the eight national league championship in a four-game sweep of the st. louis cardinals setting up the nationals first trip to the world series. they will play the houston astros in game one of the series tuesday night right here on fox. someone is so excited that he showed up here today, teddy roosevelt one of the great sitting presidents from has dropped by and he has delegated me to say go nats! oh, my gosh. that's it for today, have a great week. we will see you next "fox news sunday." ♪
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