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broncos dibbs will remember this evening for different reasons than us. scored his first touchdown. >> it's happening right now. and we have to go back and look
at the film and figure out ways to get it started faster, whether that's getting the balls out of our hands quicker or getting the ball in our playmaker's hands, we have to do something to get the spark running.
chasing the raiders in the west. how do you think this team bounces back? >> i mean, we're a team full of champions. come off a super bowl. i don't mean to read into that. but we know what it's like to be down. we know what it's like to lose a game. we lost a couple last year. and we know how to respond as well. you know, as we did last year. i think we're going to be fine. i think we'll be absolutely fine. we have leaders on this team, great players. pro bowl thomas, and we have guys to make plays and we'll be okay. >> reporter: do you need to more physical? what jumps out to you? >> i have to go back and look at the film. but the numbers say we have to do a better job. that's all the numbers say. and i agree. you know, looking out there and seeing things and being out there and getting a couple of those plays, i know we can do so much better than what we're doing right now. but at the same time, you know, we have to go back and
correct. >> and bibbs in oakland territory! getting a block from sanders! >> how did it feel to get that exciting play? such an exciting play. and you know you can't celebrate it too much. it got you in the game a little bit but it came at a loss. >> i wish it was a brighter moment. but it was still what we needed at that time. we needed that spark at that time. and that's all i was trying to do for our team. there and make a play. those guys blocked it perfectly. they hustled all the way down the field. jordan, emanuel. when i saw them chasing down and get those blocks, i have to use them, you know? and they're great teammates. and i appreciate it. >> reporter: that was a long run. it took a a while. but you seemed determined! you weren't stopping until you got to the end zone. >> oh, yeah. that's what i have to do. that's what i've always done and what i want to continue to do.
be a difference maker on the team. you have to score touchdowns. don't fall at the 20 yards back there. just score touchdowns. that's what makes a difference between teams losing and winning games 7 points and 3 points. >> reporter: appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> broncos are in big trouble if they lose again next week. and they have to travel to new orleans. saints average 30 points per game. >> that presents problems on both sides of the football for the broncos. the defensive backs obviously struggled tonight. if aqib drew brees is a guy who is excellent at finding that weak spot in your offense. that's not what they do well. asking trevor siemian to throw the ball all around the yard is, in my opinion, a recipe for darwin and derren sorrells disaster. >> mike, -- -- is a recipe for disaster. >> mike, is there anything else you could change? >> no! unless aqib talib finds a
in his lower back, it'll be difficult. look. the one thing about this denver team that it had was a great defense. when you can't stop the run, you are not a great defense. you're a long way from it. chad, you know. defense, the badge of honor is stopping the run! and it's been leaking for a while. it never gave up 220 yards like it did tonight. but it's been consistently giving up 125 yards on the run. and what that does -- even though a lot of points, they were keeping keeping that offense off the field. so the defense is leaking with or without aqib talib. and then the offense is just putrid. every playcall looks the same. they try to throw three, four, five, passes to start the game. seems to be no imagination. and they don't get anything going until the 2nd quarter. this team is in trouble right now! >> i fell in love with market
punter who dances anytime he sticks the ball inside the 10- yard line. you must hate this! >> actually, i loved it! punters don't have a lot of swag. but this clearly is a punter with swag with fun with it. he should be proud! he really pinned the broncos back. allowed that raiders defense to establish some good field position. but the best part, i think, is when he mocked von miller'sednesss. >> right there! >> i love it dances. right there! >> i love it when he takes someone's dance and then kind of mocks it. >> yeah! >> is there room for that in football? >> sure there is! but the broncos noticed. they did think that the raiders acted like they won the super bowl tonight. let's see what happens when they play again at the end of the year. >> interesting! thanks, mike. safe travels home! and thank you for staying up late and watching "broncos
the kirkland museum on capital hill is being moved from pearl and 13th to 12th and bannock. >> yeah, it's a big deal. >> reporter: it was a day of inches -- >> maybe here we go again. >> reporter: -- of waiting as the day of inching moved closer. >> lots of people watching! >> reporter: 150 tons on wheels! some surmised how others surmised how fast. >> they started tooting the horn. >> reporter: but when they began, so did the cheers. [ laughter ] >> rocking and rolling now! >> yeah! >> reporter: at 1 miles per hour, the pace was impressing. >> that cable on the back of the building. you see it just turning. >> we feel the history of kirkland is so essential to the story we're telling at the
>> reporter: organizers figured the history was worth taking down light posts and closing off 13th street most the day. >> the cracks, did that happen when they moved it or were they already there? >> reporter: it wasn't all clean, but spectators didn't care! >> what a great day to do this, though! >> reporter: seeing 150 tons roll down the street at once was all worth it. >> sort of like a party atmosphere! [ laughter ] >> reporter: crews guess this will take them into after sundown. >> at least we saw it a couple times already. >> reporter: a long day of history passing along. >> a really exciting day for us! >> reporter: dan grossman, 9news.
>> none whatsoever! disrespect, honestly. the squirrel running through the end zone, late in the 3rd quarter of the colts-packers game. security came in to try to catch it. not those guys. those guys don't care. [ laughter ] >> others tried to catch it with a net. but we did get this slow-mo replay. that's what a squirrel looks like when he runs in slow motion. [ laughter ] >> he's booking it! >> he's very cute! >> instant replay. el replay of a squirrel running! >> yep! >> not much you can do when a rodent goes rogue. you just have to watch him. >> in slow-mo! >> yeah, why not! tomorrow will be a couple degrees cooler. there's a dry front which means there will be more of a wind shift than cloud cover or moisture. you'll probably notice it. low 60s, while cooler than today, will be above the average of 57. wednesday will be the warmest day of the week.
but tracking a storm late in the weekend that may bring some mountain precipitation! hopefully of the frozen variety. >> any precipitation will be welcome, i think. >> haven't seen any in quite some time! >> there's all sorts of stickers -- >> are there? >> i have to pay attention. look at the details. >> you need to go home and do that. >> it's late! [ laughter ] >> we'll see you back here
this sunday, the final days before the election. and a mad scramble by both candidates. hillary clinton targeting her check mate states. >> tonight, i want to hear you roar. >> donald trump, still searching for a path to 270. >> nobody said it was going to be easy for us. but we will never be stopped. never, ever be correspondents on the campaign trail. i will talk to former speaker of the house newt gingrich. and the chairman of the clinton campaign, john podesta. plus, where the race stands this morning, the results from our final nbc news/wall street journal election poll. inside analysis from the pollsters. and finally, the race for the senate. >> would you tell a child to aspire to be like donald trump? would you point to him as a role
>> has turned his back on us. >> we will break down the key battles state by state and the last minute fight for control. joining me for this last "meet the press" before the ee lebs are nbc news special correspondent tom brokaw, republican strategist nicolle wallace, chris matthews, savannah guthrie and jose diaz belart. this is it. edition of "meet the press." >> from new york, this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning from election headquarters, right here at 30 rock in new york city. in two days, we're going to have an election that peter heart says was never about hope. it's always been about fear. fear on one side of a changing world and a changing america.
we have a lot to cover. we will get right to it. here it is, our final brand-new nbc news/wall street journal poll out this morning. we have a tightening race. hillary clinton leading donald trump by four points in the four-way matchup. 44 to 40. that's a big change from last month's poll which had clinton leading by double digits, 11. that poll, of course, taken before the james comey e-mail announcement. last night in reno, nevada, trump was rushed off stage when someone in the crowd shouted gun. trump did return to finish that speech. >> nobody said it was going to be easy for us. but we will never be stopped. never, ever be stopped. i want to thank the secret service. these guys are fantastic. >> at the same time, hillary clinton was rallying her voters with the help of katy perry and a concert in philadelphia.
ask you what you did in 2016 when it was all on the line, i want you to be able to say, i voted for a better, fairer, stronger america where everybody has a chance at the american dream. >> this weekend, the two campaigns are taking very different paths to election day. today, hillary clinton and tim kaine are targeting a number of states in an attempt to try to michigan, not yet lit up on our board, is suddenly in play. tomorrow clinton and president obama and bill clinton are all going to be saturating that suddenly into the battleground state. d donald trump and mike pence have no clear path. they are throwing spaghetti at the wall, trying to find some combination of new states, like minnesota, that will get them to 270 electoral votes. of course, they still have to win the traditional battleground
carolina and find a couple of blue states to flip. iowa looks good. is it michigan? we have correspondents all over the campaign trail. we will begin in philadelphia where hillary clinton will be waking up this morning. that's where we find our kristin welker. philadelphia, what's this about? >> reporter: chuck, pennsylvania is a part of secretary clinton's firewall. in order to win here, in order to win the white house, she has to get large margins of african-american voters in urban a l philadelphia. that was on display during that katy perry concert here last night. clinton has made 16 stops to pennsylvania since the dnc. a lot of those stops aimed at energizing african-american voters. consider this. president obama got 93% of the black vote here in pennsylvania in 2012. clinton doesn't need to match that. she's got to get comparable numbers. it's in other battlegrounds like north carolina and ohio where
james. and to help her make her case, she has a million volunteers stretched all across the country helping to get out the vote. >> there you go. now let's go to wilmiwilmington north carolina, check in on where donald trump will be with katie tor. >> donald trump is visiting eight states in two days. they are taking a renewed say internal polling showed them in a dead heat with hillary clinton. why? they say their jobs message is cutting across all demographics in that state. in order for them to get to 270, they believe michigan is absolutely their best path. if they do win that state, they can afford to lose pennsylvania where hillary clinton is currently polling in the lead. also, nevada and new hampshire. they are making a surprise visit to minnesota, a state that president obama won by eight points in 2012.
that in order to win, they're going to have to find a blue state and turn it red. check? >> katy, thanks very much. now let's go to the swing state, perhaps the most important swing state of them all, florida. it's in orlando that we're going. we like to say on this show, florida, florida, florida. >> reporter: it looks like this year as well. early voting smashing all kinds of records. just over this weekend, the democrats have started outpacing the republicans. big reason, hispanic votes have been cast already this year than in all of 2012. a word of caution for hillary clinton. she's behind where barack obama was in 2012. that's why the president is coming here today, big puerto rican population. he wants to run up the score for her before election day. because on election day, republicans tend to outvote the democrats. this is the last day of early voting here in florida. including most of the big
like another heart-stopping election day in florida. >> sure does. thanks very much. finally, our final stop on the map this morning, it's actually usually first stop of any presidential candidate, it's in the great primary city of manchester, new hampshire, where we find our own andrea mitchell who has been covering hillary clinton for decades. an andrea, what do you got? >> reporter: this is not the way hillary clinton wanted to finish up. her plan to end on a letter, forcing her to fight back. for the past week, everywhere we have gone with her, she habs ben reminding voters of every thing donald trump has said. tomorrow night, the clinton campaign will take two minutes. they are paying for a commercial on nbc primetime and on cbs. they're hoping to reach 20 million people. it will be all about uplifting, inclusive america. they are making it as we speak. it's going to include that
first, of course, tonight she will be in new hampshire where voters famously are late deciders. clinton will be introduced by the gold star father who the campaign says represents the very best of america and president obama coming back here tomorrow. >> thank you. as we march towards election day, we can tell you that as of yesterday, nearly 40 million people have already voted. we expect the total early vote turnout to tuesday. there are strong indications this weekend the hispanic vote is up sharply in las vegas and along the critical i-4 corridor of florida. that would be very good news for hillary clinton. joining me now is the chairman of the clinton campaign, john podesta. mr. podesta, welcome back to "meet the press." >> good to be with you. >> talk about the good news on hispanic turnout. but you are having struggles with african-american turnout. we have seen indications north
michigan, that all that turnout among african-americans is down in the early vote. i will put up a north carolina stat here that shows it down almost 6% from the turnout in 2012. why do you think you are having trouble motivating african-american vote? >> well, look, all the way through the primaries, african-american voters came out for hillary clinton. we expect that again now. and we're working very hard to make sure that happens. she is campaigning across the country in african-american communities. we have had the president out for us. you know, you are comparing us against the first african-american president running for re-election. we think we can hit those numbers. the president is helping us do that. but we built a different kind of coalition and a bigger coalition. you mentioned the historic hispanic turnout we're seeing in
obviously, more work to do between now and tuesday. we have had college educated women voting in higher numbers, voting for her in higher numbers. asian americans voting disproportionately. so we're feeling very solid going into this last weekend. but there's a tremendous amount of work to do. >> you brought up the president. i want to play for you a clip of an interview he did with reverend sharpton about motivating african-american voters to the polls. take a listen. the dinner table, we explain to our daughters, not everything is supposed to be inspiring. sometimes you just do what you have to do. one of the things you gotta do right now is to make sure to vote for hillary clinton. >> it's not a hope and change election. i assume you would like the president to come up with another rational other than not everything is supposed to be inspiring? >> look, we're on the ballot on tuesday on the ballot in these
as a president has crisscrossed the country, he laid that challenge to the voters on the line of what kind of country are we going to be. are we going to build pep uople? are we going to run a campaign of bigotry or are we going to run a campaign of inclusion and solving our problems and making the right investments for people as hillary clinton has proposed? she has done that all her life. that's what the cause of her life has been is to fight for and that's what we think that voters who are now i think with enthusiasm coming out and voting for her will do. chuck, we have a million volunteers. we did 7 million voter contacts yesterday alone. that's the kind of enthusiasm i think that she's been able to demonstrate. >> what's happening in michigan? how concerned are you? we saw the iowa poll numbers. you are clearly behind in iowa. likely that's the one blue state for sure that trump is going to
michigan, obviously, you are taking it seriously by sending secretary clinton and the president up there. >> look, if we hold on to nevada, hold on to michigan, you know, then hillary clinton is going to be the next president of the united states. most people vote on election day in michigan. so our schedule has been oriented to being in the early vote states in the earlier period of time. now we're going to michigan, to new hampshi where they do it the old-fashion way, everybody votes on election day. we feel like we got a lead in michigan. we want to hold on to it. we think we can do that. >> tim kaine yesterday in an interview said, people within the fbi are actively working to try to help the trump campaign. do you believe the entire fbi announcement has been a benefit to the trump campaign and that there are forces in the fbi that are actively working against your candidacy?
i think it broke with precedent. i think it was criticized by democrats and republicans. including four -- i'm sorry, two former deputy attorney generals who served with him in the bush administration. i think it was a mistake. >> is it a mistake that should lead to resignation? >> i never questioned his motivation. i just said it was a mistake. it broke with precedent. there's a reason for the policy. it looked like that it was in ongoing, which was what tim was referring to, is worrisome. i think the men and women of the fbi are doing a tremendous job out here across the country. but the leakers should shut up. >> let me ask you a final question about wikileaks. i don't think anybody feels as if it being exposed the way your personal and private messages have been exposed.
>> you mean on a personal level? >> yes, sir. >> i've got a pretty thick skin, chuck. what i have worried about is to make sure that this is an unprecedented situation where a foreign power hacked my e-mails as working with wikileaks and assange to dribble them out in order to maximize the damage to hillary and to maximize the help to donald trump, who ad policy and rejected bipartisan u.s. foreign policy. so it's kind of an unprecedented circumstance. look, my job is to make sure that we're doing what we need to do to make sure that those volunteers are on doors, on the phones. that's what we're going to do to win this election. >> john foe dpodesta, campaign for the hillary clinton campaign, that's all the time i have. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, chuck. joining me now, from the other side, is former speaker of
trump supporter, newt gingrich. welcome back to "meet the p press." >> chuck, it's great to talk to you. >> let me start with reading from a memo you wrote on behalf of the rnc earlier this year. principles for planning the 2016 general election campaign. your first two points, bullet points were, speaker gingrich, under words and ideas matter were this, the wrong words cripple or kill. the right big idea or ideas expressed in clear win campaigns. if donald trump comes up short, is it because he violated those first two bullet points in your -- in what you sort of set out there, words matter sometimes? >> well, i think the reason trump is such a fascinating historic figure is he managed to encompass those points. he hurt his campaign at times by saying things unwise. at times he has been a historic figure. his use of large ideas, whether
drain the swamp, the speech he gave at gettysburg where he outlined item after item in his contract with the american voters, his proposal for a new deal for african-americans, which is more than any republican presidential candidate in my lifetime. so he's a funny paradox on the one hand he is one of the most brilliant marketers i have ever seen. on the other hand for a while, he was undercutting himself. if he had not done that, he would be ahead by ten or 15 points right now. as it is, comeback. go ahead. >> no, no, no. >> your turn. >> i am bemebemused about the s in hispanic turnout. could it be donald trump could lose -- to look back and say he lost this election on the very first day he announced when he called -- when he insulted mexicans on that very first day? because it does seem -- at least so far -- that the evidence is that activated the hispanic vote.
side of that coin, chuck, is could it be that hillary clinton when she loses will look back and say, i shouldn't have been a serial liar, i shouldn't have totally abused national security and i shouldn't have used the state department office for personal corruption? i mean, she's got plenty of stuff to look back on if she loses. she was the one who was the front runner. she was the run who represented the incumbent president. she's the one who spent 46 years of her life trying to become president. now she's scurrying off to michigan. she didn't think it was in play. she's lost ohio in addition to flipped for sure. i think that she has a very long couple days here. remember, trump brought into this election -- i was at a book signing the other night in georgia. 90-year-old woman who had never voted in her lifetime. there are people trump is bringing into the game. >> do you think when you look back on this election that the lack of unity inside the republican party, how much of
hampshire in particular where you don't even have the senate candidate kelly ayotte and the presidential candidate on the same page. 1,000 votes could flip new hampshire. >> that's exactly right. that's one of the real challenges that we faced all year. the truth is, donald trump represented an outside grass-roots populism that was furious at the republican leadership. when this campaign began, 63% of all republicans said they did washington. and those are the people who nominated trump. well, it turns out some of the folks in washington didn't particularly like having what is in effect an outsider populist hostile takeover of the party. i get that. some of them would rather have hillary clinton win and have a left wing supreme court and have the corruption continue rather than elect donald trump. i get that. the question for trump is, can he arouse enough voters to overcome these?
people there are who care about the never trumpers. >> can i ask you quickly, you use the word let the corruption continue. have we been too loose with some words? i say that because -- >> no. >> look, there's actual corruption that is a crime and then there's sometimes we use that word to describe legal politics. fair or not. do you worry we have let language get too loose? >> no, chuck. i worry -- with all due respect to you as a person. you you know we're pretty good friends. i worry the elite media has blindly refused to tell the truth. every foreign gift, foreign speech -- every one -- >> it's a big charge. >> it's the u.s. constitution. there's a section in the constitution that says no one nor their spouse can take money from foreigners. she has to be guilty of 70 or 100 counts just on that one charge. then you look at the people who
wikileaks is they showed us how corrupt the system was. she showed us people are being told you need to get them in because they're giving to the foundation. i think the real corruption is the lack of the media being willing to be honest about how much lawlessness the clintons stand for. >> now you have gotten me to my last sort of point here. i'm trying to figure out, november 9 -- what do we do as a country on november 9? it has been a rough election. wa this is what you said in january of 2001, after another very contentious presidential election. you said the following. most americans do not find themselves actually alienated from their fellow americans or fearful if the other party wins power.
in january of 2017? >> no. no. i think tragically, we have drifted into an environment where if hillary is elected, the criminal investigations will be endless. and if trump is elected, it twill be like madison, wisconsin, with scott walker. the opposition will be so hostile and so direct and so immediate that it will be a continuing fight over who controls the country. i think that we are in for a long, difficult couple of years. maybe a decade or more. ap dishonesty and corruption and the total lack of hon hesty on clinton team and on their side their defense of unions, which they have to defend, nirdi understand that, that will lead to a struggle if trump wins. >> well, speaker gingrich, there's a picture you painted there. >> i wish it wasn't true, chuck. >> i think everybody agrees on
you coming on the show. >> good to be with you. >> later, we will check in with our pollsters to see how sturdy this hillary clinton four-point lead really is. see who has the edge in the fight for the control of the senate. that's on a knife's edge as well. we will talk about november 9 and have a continuing conversation there that we started with speaker gingrich. plus, you will hear from some on air folks that were familiar to you, been around this table throughout the season. we asked tho they are going to be watching for on election night. here is the first couple. >> right away, i'm going to watch for new hampshire, one of the first states we get results from. is there any sign of life for donald trump in what has become pretty blue. >> watch for arizona which used to be deep red and where now some polls indicate hillary clinton might actually pull off thank you is what we say. but we mean so much more.
welcome back. sundays don't get bigger than this. my panel is so excited, they're handicapping things. neither does our panel. we had to go super size. we went five this morning. call it our spinal tap final. >> i take that personally. >> there you go. of course, i have tom brokaw. savannah guthrie, good to see you. nicolle wallace. the man who is always playing hard ball, mr. chris matthews
belart. welcome to all of you. grand puba. >> let's not start there. >> it's john podesta questioning the fbi. newt gingrich talking about the next four years. >> i've been at this a fractured. founding fathers said we the people in order to form a more perfect union. this campaign has been we the african-americans, we the hispanics, we the women, we the angry white males, we the wealthy, we the people who don't know quite what to do. we're in tribal warfare here. that's not who we are. that's not what we can be. newt gingrich is right, we're in for a very difficult time whoever wins that.
campaign. >> it's too long. >> most of all, what you see is everything happens at warp speed. bret baier who is a respectable reporter at fox the other day said he has an averalanche of evidence about to indict here. turns out not to be true. doesn't make a difference whether it's true, it's in the minds of the voters at this point. that's not a way to run a democracy. >> let's talk about the last two days of the democracy and what's explain the trump strategy. they're all over the map. >> you keep putting it up -- i was going to say black and white but it's in red and blue. they can run the table. they can win the battleground states which in a normal year means victory. he has to win the battleground states and flip a deep blue state other than iowa to win. i think it's very trump-like to say the battleground states will take care of themselves. he is concentrating his time in the state it would take to win.
>> i was in the democratic city committee meeting of the ward leaders friday noon. they let me in. they don't usually do that. that's when they hand out the street money. it's real. 200 bucks for voting division. these guys are all pros. >> what's it used for? >> it's all professional. it's legal. you pay people to go out door to door starting at 11:00 in the morning. you roust them out of the house. you say, you have voted? go back and forth. you roust them again. you make sure in these conge all democratic districts where everybody is a democrat, they all vote. you turn in the plurality of 450,000 votes coming out of the city. with the suburbs being basically 50/50, more pro hillary this time, because of professional women and college educated women, they will win the state with that. it's very professional. i don't know what trump is thinking about. i asked brady the boss of the city, what is he talking about he is going to carry pennsylvania? he is -- it's his own mind. it's not going to happen. i think it's the firewall
>> if the african-american vote is not animated, has the latino turnout, jose, in florida made up for that gap? >> i tell you, chuck, if hillary clinton wins this campaign, i wouldn't be surprised if she renames the states the way she should be said. florida, colorado, nevada, carolina. every one of those -- >> that's what people are afraid of. >> donald trump's america is not happy. >> the latino community comes out to stand something instead of for something. but against donald trump. and if she wins, it may be very much because of that 27 million possible latino voters. >> nobody can say they didn't see this coming. you go back to priebus, the rnc, they wrote a document. it was supposed to be the ghost of christmas past, the ghost of election past, what went wrong in 2012. if she wins on tuesday night, is it going to be because of the fastest growing demographic,
? it will not be a shocker. it won't by something republicans didn't see coming. >> what you said to speaker gingrich was right. as a guy who is an expert brander, did he brand himself as so anti-mexican by calling them rapists and murderers when he came down the escalator open day one? that will be what we have to unpack in the aftermoath. >> since that time, he has not been on telemundo. he has not been -- we asked him. >> you h him? >> a couple of weeks after that announcement. then i was thrown out of a press conference he had . >> what we're seeing is donald trump, the one we have known in new york a long time, his ego overrides everything else, including judgment. he has mistaken those big crowds that gets as he got last night, 10, 15, 25,000 people for how you run a general election. he thinks by showing up he is going to get people who are
but that's 25,000. it's not 2 million he needs in every state. he is mistaken about what it takes to win. >> whoever wants to jump in on this question is this. we're talking about trump and him coming up short. clinton campaign is not just a little nervous, they're a lot nervous here. should they be? >> they're in michigan. the explanation is that no one voted. they need to turn out the vote. there's no -- >> it's true. >> it's true but there's an o offensive case to make. >> it's a fair question. somebody with the came in having in the sense of she's outspending two to one on the air. she's got a map that favors her from the get go. as we mentioned, a candidate who has in some ways alienated two of the biggest demographic groups. you have to ask yourself, how is she keeping it this close? that's not a flattering question for her. >> it's a good question to end on. you know who might have those an answers?
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we thought we would let you hear from the people that do this poll all the time for us, our pollsters. bill and fred. fred, i will start with you. clinton is winning. i will let team blue begin. how durable is this four-point lead? >> it's pretty durable. the different between the poll we conducted a couple weeks ago and now is that trump made up ground with groups he needed to make up ground with. republicans,i educated. but to me, the most important number for the clinton campaign and why i think her lead is durable is if a candidate in politics is having momentum, they should be winning with independents. our poll he's losing by six points. >> that's actually shocking, bill. over the last three elections, the challenger has carried independents. it's not always meant victory. the challenger has carried independents. that has to be a flashing yellow sign. what should give trump hope? >> what gives trump hope is we
say they are third party, they are not decided. that's large. it's almost 8, 9, 10%. they are break even to lean republican in terms of their house preference. this race could tighten. however, in all of our data, we still have donald trump losing with white college voters. if you are going to lose latinos, you cannot win without -- >> let me put up these numbers. college educated versus non-college educated whites. this divide may be one of the explanations of among college educated white men, trump is only winning by a point. among non-college educated white men, he is winning by almost 40 points. fred? >> the pundits and analysts talk about the ceiling for clinton. there's a ceiling for trump, too. i think one of the failures of his candidacy if he loses on tuesday is the inability not just to get minorities but to get these white educated voters that bill is talking about. >> let me ask you this.
going -- what was an important factor in deciding the vote here on clinton? clinton's use of her private server. it was 58%. it does seem as if the issues with trump were more important to voters, trump's temperament, 76% said it was important and trump on women. his negatives outweighing her neg negatives. is that an explanation for the lead? >> we have to remember that we have two candidates of the highest negatives ever since we have had polling in the 1930s. we would all be talking negatives except for donald trump. but still in campaigns as much as these candidates are not liked, the person with the slightly higher negative tends to win in our nbc/wall street journal poll. that gives an edge to secretary clinton. >> we did word clouds. we asked the first couple of days of polling -- this is not from all 1 th,000 responders. we asked trump voters you think about hillary clinton? we asked clinton voters what
here is what trump voters think of clinton in this word cloud. liar, dishonest, crooked, corrupt. fred, here is what clinton voters think of trump. put that up. sexist, racist. a crook and a racist. how is america coming together? >> chuck, those are word clouds. bill and i went through the verbatims. >> those were word clouds we could air. i'm not -- you are right. i read through these. i couldn't believe if i had hair. i think the previous segments there's an election and a winner. the question on wednesday and going forward is what does the other side do and do we come together as a country. i think that's a big x factor. >> this is horrifying. >> it is horrifying. we also asked the question how comfortable and are you ready to accept this person as your president. we asked that question 2000. a week or ten days after that election was still unresolved.
i will do that. george bush, okay, i will do that. here today, hillary clinton is barely break even. and donald trump is a negative. on wednesday morning, we're not going to have a grace period. there won't by a little rise. there's going to be two people that this country is very uncomfortable with as president. >> half the country will think we either elected a crook or a racist. unbelievable. bill, fred, we keep ending every segment so upbeat. appreciate it. wh will control the senate? could be a photo finish tuesday. or wednesday. or thursday. or december. stay with us. >> north carolina. north carolina is a state that has flipped and flopped. if it goes for hillary clinton it's an east coast state, that will be an early night call. it means it's going to be a