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08/13/14 08/13/14 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] >> from pacifica, this is democracy now! recommended to the president and the president has authorized me to go ahead and new assessment iraqmembers up to northern in the erbil area. quick as the pentagon sent 130 more marines and special forces
to iraq, we will speak with longtime middle east correspondent patrick cockburn about isis and the new sunni uprising. his new book, "the jihadis return: isis and the new sunni uprising." >> iraq is really disintegrated already. it is still called iraq and america want being called iraq, but if you're in baghdad, particularly if -- anybody in baghdad, you cannot move from north or west of the city without being in isis-controlled territory or you might be killed. you can't move to baghdad or into the kurdish controlled expanded.h is just they really has expanded. >> pulitzer prize winning journalist glenn greenwald calls the was humanitarian arming of iraq a redundant presidential ritual. we will speak with greenwald about media coverage of the latest attacks as well as what the edward snowden documents reveal about u.s.-israeli nations. all of that and more coming up.
this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the pentagon has confirmed it is deploying an additional 130 marines and special forces to iraq. chuck hagel made the from california. >> i recommended to the president and the president has authorized me to go ahead and send about 130 new assessment iraqmembers up to northern in thee rbil area to take a give a moreand in-depth assessment of where we iraqistinue to help the with what they're doing and
now dealing are with. >> the guardian is reporting u.s. is prepared to send the iraqi government to shipment of missiles, guns, ammunition but haider al-abadi becomes the official prime minister. he has the backing of both washington and tehran. the leaky has rejected the appointment saying it violates iraq's constitution and says it would take court ruling for him to give up his post. we will have more on iraq after the headlines with journalists patrick cockburn. israeli and palestinian negotiators are in the final hours of indirect talks before the slated expiration of the second 72 hour cease-fire. violence could resume unless both sides agree to extend the truce or reach a broader agreement. negotiations have reportedly touched on israel's blockade of the gaza strip from a but there's been no reported progress. indignantns had made blockade a key demand.
meanwhile in gaza, five people were killed and several more wounded today as gaza's bond disposal team was dismantling an israeli missile. the dead included several explosives experts and a foreign journalist. in a statement, the human world health organization said gaza's hospitals and health facilities are in dire need of support from international donors. the world health organization says 15 of gaza's 32 hospitals have been damaged, in addition to 18 primary health clinics and 29 and.... a health official for the win agency for palestinian refugees said -- as cease-fire talks continue, the british government has announced it will suspend some arms exports to israel if the
assault on gaza resumes. reduce business secretary vince cable cited specific concerns the israeli military could use produce made products. venezuela meanwhile hasn't a military plane carrying 12 tons of humanitarian aid intended for the gaza strip. venezuela is one of several latin american countries that have harshly criticized the israeli assault on gaza. the israeli government meanwhile has apologized for foreign ministry spokesperson who called brazil a "diplomatic dwarf." brazilment came after denounce the israeli assault and recalled its ambassador to tel aviv. the israeli government is rejecting the three-member united nations panel convened to investigate possible war crimes committed by both hamas and israel. canadian professor of international law william schabas will head the panel along with the veteran you and
human rights expert. british-lebanese lawyer amal al named toas initially the panel but pulled up shortly after her appointment was announced. she recently made headlines after it was announced she was engaged to marry hollywood actor george clooney. on tuesday, israeli government spokesperson mark regev dismiss the panel as a kangaroo court. ofthe so-called commission inquiry established by the ewing human rights council is a travesty. it has about as much good ability as a kangaroo court and its chairman, well, he has such a documented record of anti-israel bias, i think any fair-minded person would demand to recuse himself. >> panel chair worry and shop is dismissed claims of anti-israel bias as a slur and slander. the world health organization has approved the distribution of
unproven drugs to help address the ebola outbreak in west africa. world health organization assistant director general said the decision was made to spite tests that failed to prove the drugs are safe and effective. >> none have undergone the test necessary for licensing as proven safe and effective treatments. that does not mean they are not safe. it simply means we do not have the evidence from human studies to say it is certain they're unsafe. protests are continuing in ferguson, missouri over the police shooting of the unarmed african-american teen michael brown. police say brown assaulted an officer and tried to reach for his weapon. but i witnesses say brown was shot with his arms up as he tried to flee in officers fire. more than 50 people have been arrested and ensuing protest. tuesday, around 100 people marched on the st. louis county
courthouse chanting "hands up, don't shoot." overnight, dozens of protesters were blocked from marching on the street or brown was shot dead. in a separate incident, police say an officer shot a man who had brandished a handgun. the claim has not been independently verified. the victim was reportedly left in critical condition. the ferguson police department says it will continue to withhold the name of the officer who killed michael brown, citing fears for his safety. rounds family and community activist have demanded the disclosure of the officer's name. please have also obtained an order imposing a no-fly zone over ferguson to provide "a safe environment for law enforcement activities." preventht ban would news helicopters from documenting the unrest that has erupted since michael brown's death. video footage shows ferguson officers fired tear gas at residents who were protesting on the grounds of their own home.
president obama has offered condolences to michael brown's family. in a statement, obama vowed after a justice department investigation and called for honoring tackle brown's memory "your reflection and understanding." to see our coverage of the michael brown killing in the aftermath, go to democracynow.org. the high-end retail store $525,000 to pay settle allegations of racial profiling at its new york city store. new york attorney general eric schneiderman launched a probe last year after african-american customers said barneys employees alerted police after making a racially biased assumption they cannot afford their expensive purchases. one customer was held and questioned for buying a handbag, while the other was to tame in police custody after buying a belt. in a statement, schneiderman said his probe had found the disproportionate number of african-american and latino customers are being detained for alleged shoplifting or credit card fraud at barneys.
has recusedudge himself from the immigration fraud trial of the chicago airport american community activist. ofmea odeh is accused concealing her detention in israeli prison 40 years ago on bonding charges. rasmea odeh works as associate director at the arab-american network that works on behalf of new immigrants and campaigns against anti-ergo discrimination. she says her conviction was obtained through torture. her attorneys have called for the dismissal of judge paul borman, citing his lifelong ties to the israeli government. at this week, the judge announced he would step down after discovering his family have financial ties to supermarket rasmea odeh was accused of bombing. human rights watch has unveiled a report finding that egypt killing of at least 817 unarmed protesters in a single day last year was a premeditated attack that likely amounted to a crime against humanity.
a year ago on thursday, egyptian forces dispersed the sit in as part of a systematic crack down on protesters opposed to the ouster a president mohamed morsi. the executive director of human rights watch presented the findings. >> it was one of the worst massacres in recent time, very much on par with massacres at tiananmen square in china in 1989 or the massacre in whose pakistan in 2005. this is a crime against inanity and the view of human rights watch, which mandates that the authors be brought to justice. egypt has done nothing to investigate in a public manner this trial. there's been to plead impunity inside egypt. human rights watch is calling on the international community to act. >> kenneth roth and surly whitson had attempted to enter
egypt to present the report earlier this week but were detained and turned away by egyptian authorities. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. >> welcome to all our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. 130 additional u.s. marines and special forces have been sent to iraq will stop defense secretary chuck hagel made the announcement tuesday speaking to marines at camp pendleton in california. >> i recommended to the president and the president has ahead and me to go send about 130 new assessment team members of to northern iraq in the erbil area to take a a morelook and give in-depth assessment of where we can continue to help iraqis.
nowthe threats they are dealing with. >> the news comes one day after the was confirmed the cia was directly arming kurdish fighters who are battling sunni militants of the islamic state who seized live -- large swaths of iraq and syria. would also announced they send arms to the kurds. the guardian is reporting the u.s. is preparing to send the iraqi government a shipment of missiles, guns and ammunition but it is waiting to do so until haider al-abadi officially becomes iraq's new prime minister. it remains unclear if iraq's current prime minister al-maliki di.l release powers to aba he says the appointment violates iraq's constitution. but the united nations says may00 to 30,000 yazidis still be trapped on the arid
mount sinjar where they fled. the human special repertoire on minority issues said -- to talk more about the situation in iraq, we're joined by patrick cockburn. he was in baghdad last month. his new book is, "u.s. 'humanitarian' bombing of iraq: a redundant presidential ritual." "the jihadis return: isis and the new sunni uprising." can you talk about the latest news, the a sending of additional on hundred 30 more u.s. marines and advisers into iraq? more u.s.s a little commitment to the kurds. i don't think it makes an enormous difference. the most significant action was the airstrikes, although
limited, a few days ago. that was important. that raised kurdish morale. it meant a new u.s. military involvement in iraq. so i think that is what is really significant. >> the situation of what is happening now in baghdad with the new prime minister, the current prime minister, and what this all means, who will be the actual prime minister? think that maliki is finished. i think he is been finished for some time. the question was, would he fight it out? he at military units that were personally loyal to him, but he found after the new prime minister had been appointed, the iranians had turned against him.
he did not have any outside political support. was disintegrating or would no longer support him, the transition will happen. what is wrong, most everything now is being blamed on al-maliki. baghdad.de and outside that he was the person who provoked the sunni uprising, the hate figure for the sunni, produced an army that was riddled with corruption. but i think it exaggerated. it is as if there was a magic wand that would be used once al-maliki had gone. other reasons for this uprising, for the creation of isis, notably, the rebellion in syria in 2011. this change the regional balance of power, the rebellion which
iraqi politicians the last couple of years were telling me, if the west supports the opposition in syria, this will destabilize iraq. and they were dead right. it wasn't just al-maliki. >> patrick cockburn, you mentioned the current iraqi prime minister maliki is not solely responsible for the situation there now. you have also pointed out in a piece that he still retains the support of iraq's shia majority. what you think the consequences of that will be with this shift in power to abadi? >> i think he did have that support. i don't think it is going to last very long because he had a because he portrayed himself as the shia leader her protected their interest. he tried to get away from the
fact presided over one of the greatest military defeats in history when isis took mosul by claiming he'd been stabbed -- the army had been stabbed in the back by the kurds, treasury. he still had support because he had power, because he controlled the budget, $100 billion, because he controlled means of dog -- jobs. i think once he is no longer in control of the executive and money that support will diminish very fast. , they have those jobs through maliki. now that has changed. support.ll the >> i want to go back to chuck hagel on tuesday. >> the whole government of iraq, the country of iraq is now under mostt from some of the brutal, barbaric forces we have ever seen in the world today. is for sisal and others that
others hase isil and acted as an army, a force in dimension that the world has never seen before like we have seen it now. >> patrick cockburn, you have written a book on isis, "the jihadis return: isis and the new sunni uprising." out, itant to point comes at such a shock to people in the united states, yet time to write a whole book about who they are and their rise. can you respond to what chuck hagel says, what has added to their surge of power now and do you think that will change? will, as you said, they've been growing in strength over the last two or three years. they captured fallujah at the beginning of the year and the
iraqi government didn't have the power to get rid of them. the u.s. government as a whole foreign powers steers away from one very crucial aspect of the ine of isis, which is that syria, the west backed the uprising against president assad and still does. develop enabled isis to , gain military experience and then use it back in iraq. now washington is saying, we but inisis in iraq syria, we want to get rid of the syrian government, which is the only real opposition to isis. so there's a different policy toward isis in these two different countries. just as before, isis will
benefit from that difference. >> patrick cockburn, you've also said about isis that it has made very few military mistakes. could you explain what you think accounts for the extraordinary victories that it has had in recent months -- in iraq and syria? >> it is a rather terrifying blend of extreme religious fanaticism combined with military expertise, and it times, caution. where does that expertise come from? i think it comes primarily from in 2004 toht in iraq 2009 against the iraqi shia government and against the americans, and again, gaining experience in syria. probably the involvement of some former saddam hussein officers were special forces -- or
special forces, people who have been well trained. i think a lot of it is just military experience. when you have a long war, the survivors were still around still fighting, probably a pretty good at it. >> in an interview with the atlantic magazine, hillary clinton criticized president obama's policy on syria and said -- so this has become a big brouhaha. another clinton the president obama will be meeting tonight at the house of burning jordan, a big party for ann jordan. the clintons people have put out they will hug it out. david axelrod has treated about the issue of stupid moves hillary clinton was talking about, not making stupid moves is not a policy.
president obama, apparently, had talked about not making stupid moves. david axelrod said, don't do stupid stuff means stuff like occupying iraq and the first place, which was a tragically bad decision. alluding to hillary clinton attemptor the original on iraq in 2003. can you talk about this difference, particularly significant the cash is possibly running for president? >> true. i am pretty contemptuous of it to be honest, because it is opportunism by heather clinton. it is nonsense. the idea, which is very widespread that there was a moment with a few more guns and ammunition that a moderate syrian opposition could have taken over in syria in 2011 or 2012 or 2013 is just unreal. there 14 prevention --
provincial capitals of syria. al-assad held all of them until last year when he lost one of them to isis. are nondangerous species on the battlefields of syria. the opposition is now dominated by isis. they held one third of the country. but the other military opposition, the official representative of al qaeda from bin laden, and other jihadi organizations. so this is sort of fantasy that there was a moderate syrian military opposition which was a bit more support from obama could have taken power in damascus. it was never going to happen. it is just sheer opportunism. >> were talking to patrick cockburn. he has a new book called, "the
>> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. , i want tocockburn ask you about obama having said that the military strikes in iraq will not just last for a few weeks, it is likely to be a longer fight. i want to turn to comments that senior pentagon official army lieutenant general william mayville made. he was speaking to reporters on monday about the was military campaign in iraq. >> you says u.s. airstrikes in northern iraq have flowed isil's tempo and temporarily disrupted their defenses toward the
province of erbil. however, these strikes are unlikely to affect isil's overall to abilities worth operations in other areas of iraq and syria. isil remains focused on securing and gaining additional territory throughout iraq and will sustain its attacks against iraqi and kurdish security forces and their positions as well as target yazidis from christians, and other minorities. in the media areas we have focused our strikes, we have had a very temporary effect. somee may have blunted tactical decisions to move and dust and move further east to erbil. what i expect the isil to do is to look for other things to do, to pick up and develop. i know a want to suggest we have -- i in no contained
way want to suggest we have effectively contained isil. >> that was lieutenant general mayville. patrick cockburn, could you talk about what you think the objectives and the links of this campaign will be given the general has pointed out the operation with regard to isis has not been by any means conclusive and also that obama operation would go for longer than a few weeks. >> they're being cautious and probably sensibly so. they want to stop the isis advance on erbil and they wanted to prop up kurdish morale and a probably have the same objectives in baghdad. i mean, isis has been advancing around baghdad. it took one important town a couple of days ago to the northeast. it is getting stronger. this is very important.
in theory, they could cut it off. there are 7 million people in baghdad. they could sort of the siege them, in which case, i guess obama would want to prevent the fall of baghdad. but doesn't want to get sucked into a bigger war. it is important to realize, isis is really pretty -- not only strong, but has a large territory. it has an area probably larger than the size of great britain or michigan or some such u.s. state, stretching all the way from the iranian border to just east of aleppo. probably the population of 5 million or six lane. how many fighters do they have? probably only 6000 to 10,000 fighters in the beginning of june. an iraqi security official told me the jihadis takeover, were --s takes over, they were
there were five or 10 new fighters for everyone they had initially. so we are probably up to 40,000 to 50,000 fighters now. it is expanding and shrinking all the time. it has arms to equip them. mosul inarms taken in russian and other arms taken in recent victories that isis has had in syria. , your colleague writes --
can you talk about that where it is not been talked about the obama administration, oil? >> yeah, i think it underlies everything. interest in so much the middle east in general over the last century come and you , you know. if iraq i think was the second-biggest exporter is to be dates, if it was dates rather than oil, would there be such an acute interest in what goes on in iraq? muchstan doesn't produce apart from some crude oil. i think that is true generally of the middle east. and it is true of iraq and it is true of syria. it is worth pointing out, isis is very interested in oil and gas and taken most of the fields in syria and now taken some in iraq. that is how they are funding their campaigns.
ontocan't sell it directly the market, but if you control oil wells come you can at some point your prices are low enough you can generally get them to a refinery and make money. >> what happens to countries like chevron, exxon mobil? well, they were involved in kurdistan. they were involved in the rest of iraq. some of the very biggest , they haveike exxon resources elsewhere. but i think there's probably a feeling what they're expected from iraq is going sour. it is going sour in southern beginningse they're to worry about security. and they're right. this is a shia area. attackuld send forces to
the fields. they're not very well defended. in kurdistan, they thought, well, security is good here and this was a boom town, one of the few areas in the world that was booming in recent years. filledels in erbil with executives. i often wondered from those hotels, i wonder how these guys know how far they are remotely? i think some of them may be noticing which part of the world these new oilfields are in and realizing they're just the extent of the insecurity of kurdistan and erbil as well as baghdad. >> patrick cockburn, i want to ask you about the role of saudi arabia in the rise of these sunni militant movements. your suggested it is not only because of financing, private financing, but also because of the ideology of jihad is him
ism. >> it is always been similar to that of al qaeda. it is puritanical ideology, very bigoted. they've been blowing up shrines in mosul. the saudi government has also been responsible for shrines inng removed in bahrain 2011. they destroyed 20 to 30 shia shrines and mosques. they bulldozed them. of al qaedaideology and isis today is very similar.
labeling them as heretics. there isn't much difference. this is had an enormous impact. it is backed by saudi arabia's enormous well. the summit he wants to build a mosque in bangladesh where it will cost $3000, where are you going to get it? normally would get it from saudi arabia or the goal. one of the most important things happening in the world over the last 50 years is the way in sunni-islam,eam the original 1.5 billion people in the world, has been increasingly collared and taken over by the very intolerant faith. government'se u.s. fierce opposition to iran and close cozying up to saudi arabia, whether it is president obama, clinton, the bushes, well
known for that. i mean, this is after 9/11, all hijackersks of the were saudi. the u.s. investigations all showed money had come from private donors in saudi arabia and the gulf, but they always ignore this. and i think it is one of the reasons that al qaeda survived in its ideology, its ideas and so forth have been transferred into isis. it is extraordinary have this war of terror, hundreds of billions of dollars, joins of dollars spent by the u.s. and other governments -- trillions of dollars spent by the u.s. government and other governments, that years later, in al qaeda-type organization, worse in many ways, has taken over a great chunk of the middle east. this is a tremendous failure. very little attention has been
given to it. >> patrick cockburn could you give us a sense of what your prognosis is for syria and iraq? you outlined it in your august 10 piece. mean, isis is very strong. it is not going to evaporate. it is not necessarily even going to get weaker. it is the cutting edge any sectarian war. an organization that kills shia, kills yazidis, kills anybody that disagrees with that. so i think this is -- the wars we have seen over the last 10 years in iraq are expanding and going to get worse. isis has no plans to negotiate with anybody. its ambitions are boundless. new moree are in a explosive era, far worse than
anything we have seen over the last 10 years. >> oxfam said something very similar today. saying middle east is facing its worst two minutes crisis in decades with over 28 million people in need of aid spread across iraq, gaza, syria, lebanon, jordan and lebanon. said --jane cocking would you agree, patrick cockburn? >> absolutely. and not just in iraq, but look at the places in between. a new level of fighting in eastern lebanon that nobody much reports it these days, but there's lots of fighting in syria with hundreds of people killed -- thousands of people killed will stop and isis advancing and getting very close to aleppo now. i think there's a great swath of
violence from the iranian border right over the but it's rainy right over the mediterranean. it is not getting any less. washington, the foreign governments, there are sort of poor if i buy it but hoping it will go away. hoping it sort of will just go away. they can't think how to stop it. >> patrick cockburn, thank you for being with us. his new book is called, "the jihadis return: isis and the new sunni uprising." was speaking to us from ireland. when we come back, we go to brazil to speak with pulitzer prize winning journalist glenn greenwald. stay with us. ♪ [music break]
intercept at first look media is titled, "u.s. 'humanitarian' bombing of iraq: a redundant presidential ritual." in it he runs through headlines from media coverage of iraq starting in 1990. he site in 1991 headline in new york times, u.s. and allies open air war on iraq role in bomb baghdad and kuwaiti targets." titled "blairline likens saddam to hitler." >> to talk more about this redundant ritual, glenn greenwald is joining us via video stream from brazil. welcome back to democracy now! talk about the u.s. coverage and what you feel is the response to president obama announcing more strikes in iraq. >> there so much propaganda that
an and eight u.s. 80 coverage -- inundates u.s. media coverage. i think the one that always struck the the most is the idea that u.s. military force is going to be deployed for humanitarianism and humanitarian goals. that is true for two reasons. one, every single war throughout history just about is justified on the pretense of humanitarianism. hitler when he invaded said he was doing so to protect the human rights of german minorities. al qaeda says they bombed the u.s. to protect the rights of muslims around the world. over and over, this is the justification of aggression and brutality and violence, that oh, it is being done for humanitarian ends. in 2004, gnome chomsky wrote an article making that point in response to samantha power who is now the us ambassador to the
united nations an advocate of all sorts of interventions, she conceded and said much blood was shed in the last century by the u.s. forces in the name of because every state justifies its wars on self-defense or alter is him. chomsky is correct that any profession of noble intent is predictive and therefore carries no information. the second point, all you do is look at with u.s. does. as patrick cockburn was saying, the rest just got done feeding arms and rhenish into the israelis to kill 2000 civilians in gaza. in 2009, very clinton said president and mrs. mover wreck our close personal friends of my family. an explicit policy of the united states for the most repression of -- repressive regime is "regime continuity." -- anyone can believe >> we seem to have a little pickup in the video stream.
are you back with us? >> yes. in light of all that conduct of u.s. supporting the most brutal dictators in that region, feeding arms to the israelis to kill civilians, how anybody could simultaneously believe that same government that does those things is motivated by humanitarianism or democracy or freedom for people in that region is really mystifying. u.s.esident obama says the has an obligation to act when thousands of civilians are at risk as he authorized airstrikes in iraq. >> and when many thousands of innocent civilians are faced with the danger of being wiped capacity toave the do something about it, we will take action. that is our responsibility as americans. the hallmark of american leadership. that is who we are. facingn, are the yazidis
a massacre and does that sentence that president obama just battered resonate with other situations? somehow your frozen again -- >> yeah, i mean clearly, isis is a group that is brutal and awful and extremists and dangerous. nobody likes isis. but the u.s. stands by constantly while thousands or more people are put at risk or even killed. and not only does the u.s. stand by while that happens, but the u.s. government is an active participant in the killing of thousands of civilians all the time. the israelis just killed hundreds and close to 2000 people in gaza including women, men, and children. not only did the u.s. stand by, we fed them the arms have protected them at the u.n. it seems like our humanitarian is him is triggered only when it comes time to assert control
over oil-rich areas. i don't think it is any secret to anyone who has studied the but this became an issue for the u.s. government not only when certain minorities became put in jeopardy of their lives, but when the flow of oil in that area became jeopardized. it is fine if you want to argue that oil is an important resource and the u.s. government should use military force in order to defend it, but we should at least have that honest debate and not allow political leaders to stand up and deceive us. >> glenn greenwald, what do you think accounts for the fact u.s. media in general doesn't the motive of the administration's who used similar justifications? this trick, this tactic pretending that aggression and violence in the
war are really being done for humanitarian reasons is not unique to the united states. you can look at napoleon and the invaders of the early 20th century, whole range of people. jonathan schwartz has compiled a long list of some of the worst or mongers in history who used identical humanitarian explanations as the one u.s. government gives. one big reason is because no population, no country likes to think of itself as an aggressor, as an empire, as war mongers. we all like to think we are good people. one of the ways you get a population to acquiesce to a permanent state of warfare, which is obvious the what the u.s. government is in and has been in for decades, how to convince a population to continue to acquiesce to the continuous slaughter people around the world can't of the bombing of multiple countries in the way no other country would contemplate? the only way he can really do that is by continuously telling them it is being done because
your benevolent, because we love humanity and freedom and democracy so much that we constantly bomb people in pursuit of those goals. i think the combination of how adept this propaganda is when it is done by the u.s. government and the u.s. media jointly combined with the desire we all have to think good things about ourselves makes it so even contrary to all evidence as it is -- >> glenn, another little hiccup. go ahead. well, let me put this to you. one of the other pieces you have just recently done, earlier this month, the intercept published documents provided by edward snowden that revealed the deep ties between israeli and u.s. intelligence agencies. onen greenwald, you cited
2013 document that described a far-reaching technical and analytic relationship between the national security agency and its israeli counterpart against mutually agreed upon geographic targets. ae partnership includes "dedicated communications line" supporting the exchange of raw material as well as daily analytic and technical correspondence. glenn greenwald, can you elaborate on this? what did the snowden documents show? extremelymonstrate an close relationship between the nsa and u.s. intelligence agencies in general, and the israelis. it demonstrates our large amounts of cash, unaccounted for been transferred. any specific information the israelis use used to target people in lebanon or gaza or the means they have to assert occupation and control over the west bank comes in large part
directly from the u.s. government and from the intelligence gathered by the nsa. it also shows the crucial information the u.s. government gathers about the palestinians and about people in gaza come from the jordan monarchy, the jordanian martin a key as well as the palestinian authority. interns, by some people in gaza for the benefit of the u.s. and israel. the reason why thought was important to do that reporting in the midst of the attack on gaza was because if you listen to american political discourse every time israel massacres the palestinians, the tone tends to be the sort of indifference and attachment like, oh, this is this unfortunate conflict that sadly cannot be resolved because the two sides are just so stubborn. and the reality is, u.s. is
anything but a neutral party. we are the key ingredient in enabling israeli aggression against their neighbors. i just think that debate ought than had honestly rather letting americans pretend they can throw up their hands and wash their hands of any responsibility. >> we're speaking with glenn greenwald, as we turn now to his new piece for the intercept, "npr is laundering cia talking points to make you scared of nsa reporting." it is a highly critical look at a story by npr's counterterrorism correspondent, dena temple-raston. on a techfocused firm's claims that it has "tangible evidence" that nsa whistleblower edward snowden harmed national security by prompting terrorists to develop more sophisticated encryption programs. the problem? she failed to mention that the firm is funded by the cia. >> the ceo of the data company
recorded come a christopher alder had for the obama administration's a terrorist could change the way they behaved because of the snowden leaks. you wanted to see if it was really true. >> we don't end of that and is sort of diving into forms and product platform releases and the like. >> the company told the internet. the downloaded versions of al qaeda's encryption software and discovered signs that al qaeda had changed. specifically, it upgraded its encryption system. for years, al qaeda had used an encryption program written by coders fallujah dean secrets. most affiliates used it to scramble the communications. since its introduction in 2007, there've been some minor updates then in late 2013 after the snowden leaks, the program got a major overhaul. three different groups with links to al qaeda will introduced three new encryption
products like jumping from windows 2.0 to windows xp. albrook says that wasn't a coincidence. product releases coming out under al qaeda and associated organizations fairly quickly after the snowden disclosures. >> that is an excerpt d fromina temple-raston. npr did provide a quote -- we contacted computer security expert, someone who has defended snowden for his views and gave him substantial space to make two that changes in a cut encryption might be explained by something under the snowden leaks and even new encryption would not prevent nsa.
that was the statement npr gave us. then greenwald, you note profile of recorded future and at the end of her report she mentioned they're backed by the cia. this is a clip from that report. >> albrook has about 100 subscribers at least two very important financial backers. the cia's investment arm and google ventures. they reportedly have poured millions into the company. maybe they see something about the future that the rest of us can't. from 2012.ort was glenn greenwald, lay out your current problems with the npr story. >> this is an indisputable case of malpractice. to sit there and present this
firm as though it is some independent big data company, as she called it, that just listened to news reports, her the claim that snowden had helped the terrorists and then set out earnestly to investigated without telling their listeners -- dina temple-raston new the cia itself had invested millions of dollars in this company, that the investment arm of the cia sits on the board of this company and that the researcher himself as the head of the company in a strategic partnership with the cia? that is about as journalistically indefensible as it gets. she misled npr's listeners. loyal firm.rnment that is to say nothing about the huge numbers of fallacy and reported self -- report itself. they gave and 42 seconds and two sentences to say, here are couple of questions i have about this report, but the first three and half minutes were of dina
temple-raston summarizing the report. it is press release journalism on behalf of the pentagon. it is the reason the u.s. media has collapsed in terms of the of american people. >> you outline some of the other reasons that may have explained why al qaeda upgraded its encryption software that have nothing to do with spencer revelations. could you explain those? >> first of all, all this report said is that the snowden reporting began in june 2013 and then in september and december, al qaeda had different encryption programs. the most basic logical premise teaches us that just because eventa proceeded event b doesn't mean event a caused event b. that is evidence of causation. you can go back to 2001 to find all kinds of new stories every year describing the efforts of al qaeda to develop
sophisticated encryption. they have known forever the u.s. government wants to electronically surveilled the communications. they've been developing encryption for many, many years before the snowden stories of her began. 2013, the obama ministration were mcclatchy and the daily beast and bright about how they had intercepted conference call between al qaeda leaders in which al qaeda leaders were planning to attack u.s. embassies. according to "the new york times" that lead that came from the u.s. government -- >> bear with us, it is a little faulty video stream. i think glenn is back. glenn? glenn greenwald? to still be connected. i think you're going to have to wrap it up. but that is glenn greenwald,
pulitzer prize-winning journalist. his new piece for the intercept at first look media is, "npr is laundering cia talking points to make you scared of nsa reporting." his new book is called, "no place to hide." we will link to the other articles we talked about as well . that does it for our show. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to email@example.com or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]