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12/09/15 12/09/15 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from the un climate summit in paris, france, this is democracy now! >> i don't want to die. this war is not my war. amy: you said everyone is attacking our country. who? >> everyone. russia, america, iran -- everyone. amy: what do survivors of war have to do to live in peace?
it's the largest exodus of refugees into europe since world war ii. we head to a refugee camp in calais, two hours north of paris, filled with thousands of refugees from syria, afghanistan, iraq, sudan, and other countries -- a map of the targets of u.s. bombing campaigns. the refugees have come to try to make passage through the channel tunnel to england. >> the u.s. is increasing the war. to finishon't want the war. it is their game. it is the game of george w. bush, obama, and all the european union. war. then, climate activists defy france's ban on public demonstrations during its state of emergency. >> by taking to the streets, we will be clearly and unequivocally rejected the true
conan and opportunistic -- draconian and opportunistic fans on marches, protests, and to most rations. amy: journalist and activist naomi klein, author of "this changes everything: capitalism vs. the climate." and we get an update on the negotiations here at the u.n. climate summit with climate scientist saleemul huq. this is climate countdown. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from paris, france. republican presidential frontrunner donald trump has doubled down on his call for a total and complete ban on muslims entering the united states, despite condemnation from around the world and within his own party. in an interview with abc's george stephanopoulos, trump
defended his proposal by comparing it to the detention of japanese americans, germans, and battalions under franklin delano roosevelt, during world war ii. >> fdr was solution for germans, italians, japanese, you know, many years ago. >> interment camps? is a highly respected president by all. he was -- it was far worse. amy: donald trump said his proposal to ban muslims from entering the united states would not apply to u.s. citizens. his remarks were condemned across the political spectrum, including by his fellow republican candidates. retired neurosurgeon ben carson called it unconstitutional, south carolina senator lindsey graham called it "downright dangerous," new jersey governor chris christie called it "ridiculous" and florida governor jeb bush called trump "unhinged." florida senator marco rubio tweeted that trump's "habit of
making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring americans together." texas senator ted cruz rejected the proposed ban but praised trump for "focusing america's attention on the need to secure our borders." trump also faced witticism from democrats, including white house spokesperson josh earnest. >> the fact is what donald trump said yesterday is -- disqualifies him from serving as president. and for republican candidates for president? just a mother pledged to support mr. trump? that in and of itself is disqualifying. amy: donald's critics also included st. petersburg, florida, mayor rick kriseman, who tweeted he would bar trump from entering st. petersburg "until we fully understand the dangerous threat posed by all trumps." author jk rowling compared trump to the villain in her bestselling harry potter series, tweeting, "voldemort was nowhere
near as bad." in a series of interviews tuesday, donald trump also falsely claimed there are areas of london and paris that have become so "radicalized" that police are afraid for their lives. he made the claim in an interview on msnbc's morning joe. >> paris is no longer the same said it was. they have sections of paris that are radicalized, where the police refused to go there. they are petrified. we have places in london and other places that are so radicalized, that the police -- amy: here in france, where the far-right, anti-immigrant national front led by marine le pen has surged in regional elections, french prime minister manuel valls tweeted -- "trump, like others, stokes hatred and conflations: our only enemy is radical islamism." meanwhile, london mayor boris johnson rejected trump's claims about radicalization in london, saying -- "the only reason i wouldn't go
to some parts of new york is the real risk of meeting donald trump." trump's comments about muslims come amid increasing signs of islamophobia in the united states. in philadelphia, the fbi and police have open in investigation after a bloody pig's head at the door of a mosque. the pig's head was found monday morning at the al-aqsa islamic society. pork is considered forbidden, or "haram," in islam. here in france, authorities have identified the third suspect accused of attacking the bataclan music hall in paris on november 13. 90 people were killed at the bataclan. 130 people were killed in the november 13 attacks overall. the newly identified suspect, foued mohamed aggad, is a 23-year-old from strasbourg in eastern france. all of the attackers identified so far were belgian or french.
in afghanistan, taliban militants have attacked the kandahar airport, killing dozens of people. at least 46 were reportedly died in the attack, including civilians, security personnel and taliban fighters after suicide bombers penetrated a security gate. the attack comes as afghan president ashraf ghani attends a key conference on afghan security in neighboring pakistan. canada has vowed to set up an inquiry into the disappearances and murders of indigenous women. a demand made by first nations activists for years. speaking tuesday, trudeau said he hopes the inquiry would help restore trust between the government and canada' first nations. >> i know that renewing our relationship is an ambitious goal, but i am legally certain that it is one that we can and will achieve if we work together.
amy: meanwhile, the canadian government is preparing for the arrival of thousands of syrian refugees. the prime minister trudeau has pledged to resettle 10,000 syrian refugees by the end of this month, and another 15,000 refugees by march 1. the refugees will immediately become legal canadian residents upon arrival. greenpeace has revealed that two prominent climate skeptics made themselves available for hire by the hour to write reports that cast doubt on man-made climate change and the impacts of global warming. members of greenpeace posed as consultants for fossil fuel companies and asked a professor at princeton university and a retired professor from penn state university to write the reports. both professors said the reports would cost thousands of dollars to write, discussed ways to obscure the funding source. two of the world's largest chemical companies, dow chemical and dupont, are considering merging into what could become
the second-largest chemical company in the world. combined, they are worth about $120 billion. this year has been one of the biggest years for massive corporate mergers, which include the $150 billion merger of pharmaceutical giants pfizer and allergan, the $106 billion merger of beer companies anheuser-busch and sabmiller, and the $55 billion merger between telecommunications giants charter communications and time warner cable. in canada, three activists have been arrested after they forced pipeline giant enbridge to shut down one of its major oil pipelines by locking themselves to equipment at a valve site on monday. the pipeline transports more than 12 million gallons of alberta tar sands and bakken crude oil to refineries in the east coast every day. the pipeline has long been opposed by first nations and environmental activists, who are concerned about spills and the impact of continued fossil fuel extraction on climate change.
in burkina faso, authorities have charged a general with complicity in the assassination of president thomas sankara nearly three decades ago. dubbed "africa's che guevara," sankara was killed in a military coup in general gilbert diendere 1987. has now become the most senior official charged in sankara's death. he is already in prison after leading another coup which failed in september. and indigenous activist, poet, and actor john trudell has died in california at the age of 69. john trudell was the spokesman of the american indian movement during the 1969 occupation of alcatraz island in the san francisco bay, where he set up a radio broadcast called "radio free alcatraz." he later served as the head of the american indian movement for most of the 1970's. this is john trudell speaking in new york city in 1979 from the 2005 documentary "trudell."
>> i'm a member of the american indian movement, and i am from the indigenous nations of the western hemisphere. wethe indigenous people, have watched this thing happen on our hemisphere. we have seen what has happened. we have seen them come in and attack. we understand the issue is the land. the issue is the earth. we cannot change the political system. we cannot change the economic system. we cannot change [indiscernible] and then we take it out of the hands -- amy: that was john trudell speaking in new york city in 1979. he died on tuesday of cancer at the age of 69. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from the
u.n. climate summit in paris, france. today we start today's show with the global refugee crisis, the greatest exodus of people since world war ii. on monday, the united nations appealed for $20 billion in additional aid saying that at , present funding levels, the agency is "not able to provide even the very minimum in core protection and lifesaving assistance." un officials cited the wars in syria, afghanistan, iraq, yemen, and south sudan as one of the major reasons there are nearly 60 million people forcibly displaced worldwide. the largest single displaced community are syrians, with 4 million refugees forced outside syria's borders by the ongoing conflict. last week after a contentious 10-hour debate, the british parliament voted to authorize airstrikes inside syria. the bombing began within hours. well, only a few days later, we traveled an hour and a half
north of paris to the calais refugee camp. it's the largest refugee camp in france. 6000 to 7000 people are camped out in makeshift tents. their goal is to reach britain. and each night, people set out along the highway to the channel tunnel where they attempt to cross into britain by jumping on top of or in the backs of trucks or lorries. a few days earlier, a sudanese man named joseph was killed when he was run over by a car on the highway. on saturday, while we were in the refugee camp residents , protested that the police hadn't stopped the driver. people held signs reading, "we are humans, not dogs," and "what do the survivors of war not have the right to live in peace?" >> right next to the refugee camp is this overpass. we have heard that a young
sudanese man was killed, hit by a car in the garden not stop and the people are angry because the police did not arrest the driver. they are holding up signs in arabic and english that say, "our destiny here is unknown. today, joseph. tomorrow, who?." "europe, do you hear our call from calais" can you tell me your name and what you're doing here? >> i am from syria. i'm here like everyone. i'm a refugee from the war. two days ago, -- some people here killed him on the highway. amy: did they run him over? >> yes, they run him over on the highway. it is not the first time. -- we is the first one
have another one in the hospital. there's a lot of violence here. the treatment of the police, the treatment of the truck drivers is not good at all. amy: so what does your sign say? >> today is joseph. tomorrow, who? maybe me, maybe somebody from my country, my friends or family. amy: where was joseph from? >> sudan. amy: where are you from? >> syria. amy: when did you come here? >> syria. amy: why are you here? >> to go to the u.k. to the united kingdom. amy: where did you live in syria? >> damascus. amy: why did you leave? >> i escape from the war. i don't want to die. the war -- it is not my war.
everyone is fighting in my country, yes. i escape from the war. i don't want to be dead for nothing. amy: how old are you? >> 21. amy: are you a student? >> no. i was working. amy: what was happening in damascus? >> in damascus, the assad regime, they have taken over. you must go to the army. everyone is said attacking our country. who? >> who? everyone. russia, america, iran -- everyone. amy: and so what do you want to do? >> i just want to live in peace and be human again.
to have a family, to be safe. amy: is your family back in syria? >> yes. sisters and one brother, small brother. amy: they stayed? >> yes. and my father and mother. amy: what did your parents think about you leaving? safe.y just want me to be they send me out. amy: to you think the russians, syrians, french, british bombing of syria will save it? >> no, no, no, it is not the solution. you can't protect someone by killing someone else. you know? they can't stop the bombs here when they won't -- it is not the solution. amy: what is the solution? >> the solution is not giving weapons to everyone. they're giving the weapons to the army, to the assad regime. they just give weapons and money
and let them fight for my country. just stop the weapons. amy: now britain just voted, the u.k. just voted to bomb syria as well. you want to try to get into britain. >> britain or the usa? the government or the people? who votes? i'm asking. i mean, it is not the people. i will go to the u.k. to live with these civilians. i'm not going to their government. has just taken us to the house that him and his friends had built out of -- you made it out of wood? >> yes. amy: and plastic. >> plastic and some blankets. how many of you sleep in here? >> three. two on the floor and one in the
bed. if you can call it a bed. amy: talk about what happened when you were in syria where you lived with your family, what you did, what your parents do. family was upstairs and they have a factory. amy: a paint factory. >> yes. i was living a good life. guards and house and the parties. and everything. we lost everything. amy: i'm surprised you can still smile. >> yeah, i have to. smile, it will be the end of my life. amy: i see on your phone you have a picture of your family. can you show me? >> this is my family. my small brother and my father and my sister. amy: how many months or years do people stay here? >> most of them -- there is no
specific time. some people, one week. some people, one year. amy: is it legal? will the police come and take you out of this house or this tent? >> i told you, there is no specific thing to do. it is not legal, but they can't kick us out. it is complicated. they call it -- where the animals live. they treat us like animals. amy: does the u.n. know you're here, that this refugee camp is here? >> i think we are invisible to the u.n. here. we didn't see anyone from them. and we didn't have any help or anything from them. i saw them in greece and other countries, but here, there is no one. they don't see us. they don't care, maybe. yes. amy: that was majd, did modest
uses for them, fearful for his family back in damascus, syria. he is 21 years old, one of thousands stranded in the calais refugee camp, which many their call "the jungle." it is about two hours north of paris. they are hoping to make their way to britain. back in the refugee camp in a minute. ♪ [music break]
we are broadcasting live from changethe u.n. climate summit. we're going back to the calais refugee camp, about two miles north -- two hours north by train from paris. it sits outside the northern port city of calais. many in france and residents themselves call the camp "the jungle." it's a maze of wind-swept, ripped tents and muddy walkways where people informally live in sections according to their home countries. walking through the camp is like walking through a map of the targets of u.s. and western bombing campaigns -- iraq, syria, sudan and, of course, afghanistan. by far the largest community in the calais camp are afghans who fled the 14-year-old u.s. war in afghanistan. democracy now! spent most of our day in the afghan section, where people recounted living through the longest war in u.s. history, which president obama
indefinitely extended this past fall. after covering a refugee protest and speaking with syrian refugee majd, we visited the first makeshift restaurant established in the camp to meet with its owner. we are just back from majd's tent where he lives with two other men. we're now on the street of, well, makeshift restaurants, a barbershop. this is a café. and right here, as we are going in is a map of the whole camp. let's go inside. we have come to the back of the café. it is very warm here in this back room. we want to stick with the owner. can you tell us your name? >> [indiscernible] amy: can you talk to us about when you got to this camp? >> more than six months.
amy: where did you come from? >> afghanistan. i grew up in kabul. amy: why did you leave afghanistan? >> because of war, because of americans, politics. they come to my country, use the bombs, warplanes. in my country, we don't have any warplanes, so these warplanes afghanistan is the americans -- anyone using, using them in my country. there is war in my country and i am here. amy: we just saw a protest about the death of a young man named joseph, a sudanese man who was killed on the highway on the overpass above. do you know about that? >> yeah, i know. amy: what happened? every day.ns it is not just this one time, you know? it happens every day, every week. one month before -- nine people
died here in calais. amy: why are you willing to risk all of this? me, theye people like have problems in their countries. if i have a problem in my country, i have to go. i don't have to go back. if i go back, i die. for this, i can risk it. likenk people are thinking this, if i go back, i will die and have a really bad life. it is that he -- it is better to try, 50% to have a normal life. amy: president obama said the war is ending in afghanistan. the you see it ending? >> until the americans in afghanistan, it will be not ending. never. , it ise map of this camp like a map of the world or a part of the world. of where refugees
are from. most of these countries have been bombed by the united states. i really didn't think about it. the map of the jungle is looking like a map of the world. amy: syria, afghanistan, iraq, sudan. >> yeah. it's true. i didn't think about it, but it's true. amy: we are walking through the refugee camp just outside of calais. as we walk, some people just pass us and some people stop and look for up occasionally, people stopped to talk. but we have been warned over and over that people don't want their faces shown. they are afraid. they are afraid of being targeted here and they are afraid of their families been targeted at home.
, it just and overcast rained so it is very muddy. it looks like it will be raining again will stop do you want to say your name? >> my name is [indiscernible] i am from afghanistan. amy: when did you come here? >> i am here since 4.5 months. amy: and why do you come here? >> i want to go to the u.k. because in afghanistan, the situation is very bad. america comes there. they want to punish al qaeda, but they are unsuccessful in that. increased that, the the war in afghanistan. people are in a very bad situation. it is all because of america. amy: where do you come from in afghanistan? >> kundar. amy: what is it like? was it destroyed?
was it bombed? >> it was totally destroyed. a big group of americans, there .as a big base still, kunar is under bombing come even from the pakistani side. day,reas of kunar, every pakistan is bombing kunar. at that time, america was also bombing. in the past, the people of kunar , you know, they are religious people -- all of them. ofs is the main center telegram -- taliban. amy: why do you think they are bombing? >> they say these people are terrorists. americans are bombing. pakistan is also bombing. pakistan came that day, the
taliban are hiding here. they were thinking -- was also there. kunar is mostly under attack. amy: were there drone strikes? >> yes, there were drone attacks. amy: what affected they have? did you know people killed? >> they are always killing innocent people. they are bombing civilians, on the villages. ,n fact, they were not taliban many times there were killing civilians. amy: how does that make people feel? >> that makes people .isappointed, from both sides amy: al qaeda, daesh, do you think it increased since 2001? 2001, yeah, because,
you know, if they are bombing on civilians, america were all these groups, if they are bombing on civilians, civilians become very angry and they joined a group of taliban. killing oneif there person or 10 persons, hundreds of them are joining the group of taliban. the government cannot help them. amy: are you saying the bombing increased terrorism? >> yes. war is not the solution. they have to talk face by face. what is their demand, you know? look to syria. the whole world is bombing daesh , but they are increasing. they can't do anything. amy: when to actually leave afghanistan? i think infghanistan
august. i don't know. five or six month ago. amy: how did you make your way out? >> that is a big story. it is very difficult. i went to turkey and then i went -- amy: du drive or walk? >> sometimes we were in buses, sometimes we were walking. where?om bulgaria to , then toia to serbia hungary, then to austria. amy: and then? >> and then to italia, france, and now i am here. amy: a very, very long trip. >> it is a very long trip. it is not that easy just to buy a ticket on an airplane and go
to the airport, sit in the plane and come directly here. we were just crossing the borders, and that is very difficult. a very difficult task. friends.any of our , some of their lives the people. is your family with you? >> no. they are in afghanistan. >> what do you think the u.s. should be doing now? >> i told you, you know, the u.s. is just increasing the war. actually, the u.s. doesn't want to finish the war. it is their game. it is the game of george w. bush, obama, and all the
european union. they don't want to finish that. amy: why? theirause it is behind benefits. they are selling their weapons and using in the islamic countries. this is the big point. if they spend $100, they're getting $1000. they don't care about the people who are dying there. amy: president obama said they are wrapping up the war in afghanistan. do you feel like the u.s. is ending the war in afghanistan? >> what do you mean by wrapping up? amy: ending the war. >> no, never ending the war. amy: can you be safe and afghanistan? >> i don't think so. if i was still there, i don't and to live in these tents i don't like -- my country is my
country. but i was not safe there. amy: did things change or after the november 13 attacks in paris? >> yes. everywhere the police are checking security. it is very strong. yes, -- before, it was good. the border was also good. amy: did they come here after the attacks? >> yes. each night, they are coming here. amy: so even though the u.k. and the united states bombed your country, you would like to go live there? france,america, u.k., all of the european countries are the same for us because they are bombing and they destroyed our countries. but there countries are ok. good.
areawe went to another where there were, welcome a sort of small campers that people had donated for families. we met a woman who has been a teacher in kabul, afghanistan will force you fled with her four children. she and her 12-year-old daughter described their journey. travel by bus, by to get force, by train .ere, by boat amy: can you tell me how you got from afghanistan to france? -- my daughter. amy: how did you get from afghanistan to calais? afghanistan and then we went to pakistan, then we walked [indiscernible]
-- amy: to buy death. you. buy death for all of amy: and then where did you go? >> greece. amy: macedonia? serbia? >> yes. amy: croatia? >> croatia. .ungary amy: then austria. this is quite a geography lesson that you lived. her was dora and 12-year-old daughter. after we left their camper, just as we were heading out of the camp, a young man ran after us. he said he wanted to tell us his story. from afghanistan, kabul.
working in the home on province. amy: when? >> it was 2011. amy: what were you doing? >> [indiscernible] the operation base. amy: how long did you work? >> i was working with them seven years -- seven months, yeah. amy: and also for u.s. contractor? >> before that, yeah, i was also working in a construction company. they were running a project by the name of "crowded house." it was from the dod side. they were creating coverts, bridges, and retaining walls for
the people. and so did you apply for immigration to the united states? a specialyed for immigration visa, but because i was working just for seven months, the government refused to give me a visa because they said you just worked for seven months, not one year. letter from the creative international company -- as evidence that i worked with them also, so if you put it altogether together, it becomes more than one year. but still they said, that's not the kind of evidence you should send us a letter from the international company. amy: from the letterhead.
>> with the letter i had was from the people who was working with us on the dod side. those e-mails were just local from afghanistan. from the day they left afghanistan, the numbers or e-mails doesn't work. say, workinging to with the u.s. government, it doesn't matter -- you work just one day or a year or two years or for four years, it doesn't matter to the taliban. as long as you work with them just one hour, your condemned to death. so that is what happened to me. i was condemned to death. i am asking u.s. government why the refuse me to give me a visa?
and that is why i am here. that is why i am here. i'm facing this difficulty. amy: just a few of the thousands of afghans now stranded in the calais refugee camp, risking their lives to reach britain. ofsome places, triple rows barbed wire fences were built recently to secure the entrance to the channel tunnel and a tractor-trailer staging area for trucks bound for the u.k.. all trucks entering the tunnel are subjected to infrared scanning, looking for body heat or stowaways. just months ago, it was prominent -- common for scores to hide in trucks or high-speed train. now it is a must impossible. it is years into the u.s. war in 14 afghanistan. president obama had pledged to withdraw the majority of the
thousands of u.s. troops deployed to afghanistan by the end of 2015. but in october, he reversed course and instead indefinitely extended the longest war in u.s. history. there are nearly 60 million people forcibly displaced worldwide, the largest number since world war ii. special thanks to laura gottesdiener, nermeen shaikh, hany massoud, and denis moynihan. we are in france. back in a moment. ♪ [music break]
called cop21 here in paris, france. climate activists are planning a major day of action saturday despite a plan on protest put in place by the french government after the november 13 attacks that killed 130 people. on monday night, naomi klein, author of, "this changes everything: capitalism vs. the climate," spoke here in paris about the climate negotiations and saturday's protest. >> the deal that will be unveiled in less than a week, likely to much fanfare and self congratulation from politicians echoed by an overly deferential press, will not be enough to keep us safe. in fact, it will be extraordinarily dangerous. we know from doing the math and adding up the targets that the major economies have brought to paris that those targets lead up to a very dangerous future. they lead us to a future between
three degrees and four degrees celsius warming, which are figures from the tyndall center and kevin anderson who have analyzed those numbers. it does not lead us to two degrees celsius, which is what many of our governments pledged to do in copenhagen in 2009. in 2009, dangerous warming was defined as anything above two degrees celsius in a document known as "the copenhagen accord." when a draft of that document was leaked to the convention center in copenhagen, the bella center, african delegates marched through the halls of the convention center and called it a death sentence for africa. and the low-lying island states held a demonstration, chanting "1.5 to survive." we also know from leading climate scientists like james
hansen that two degrees is just too high. indeed, we know from lived experience that the amount we have already warmed the globe is too much. we are already living the air of dangerous warming. it is already costing thousands of lives and livelihoods from the philippines to bangladesh to nigeria to new orleans and the marshall islands -- i could go on and on. but it is in poor and understand that language matters and when we speak about dangerous warming is something that is far off in the distance, it is nothing less ohan as my friend kumi naido put it yesterday, racism. and that racism is getting less subliminal every day. we are discounting lives when we speak that way, and we have to stop doing that. [applause]
given this context, we know that the deal that will be unveiled at the end of the week, on the weekend, is going to steamroll over crucial scientific redlines. we also know from the paltry levels of financing that wealthy governments have brought to the table that it is also going to steamroll over equity redlines, which means that wealthy countries that have been emitting fossil fuels on an industrial scale for a couple hundred years will continue to fail to do our fair share of emission reductions, sharing the atmospheric space, failing to share it, and we will continue to pay our fair share for the impact of that for loss and damage caused by climate change and also the resources that are badly needed so that poorer countries can leapfrog over fossil fuels and the car culture and go directly to renewable
energy, community controlled renewable energy, energy democracy, which is viable as we are seeing in countries like bangladesh, and -basedmodern renewable public transit. it takes resources and technology transfers to happen. we also know it is going to steamroll over our legal redlines because the u.s. has come to these negotiations announcing that the deal cannot .e legally binding any talk of penalties is off the table before it even began. which is why on this of her 12 at 12:00 -- december 12, at 12:00, many activists will be in the streets of paris peacefully demonstrating against the violation of these redlines. we will also -- [applause] we will also be morning the lives already lost to climate
disruption in solidarity with the lives lost to the tragic attacks here in paris and enlarging the circle of mourning. by taking to the streets, we will be clearly and unequivocally rejecting the draconian and opportunistic bands on marches, protests, and demonstrations. [applause] we will be rejecting the shameful preemptive arrests of climate activists, the unprecedented restriction on civil society inside the cop, restrictions on free speech and berte is notause li just a word in a just doesn't apply to christmas markets and football matches. [applause]
it means nothing if it does not apply to political dissent and the defense of life on earth. this climate disobedience does not make us insensitive. it does not make us hooligans. it is our sacred duty to those of suffering in the present day and who stand to lose so much if we fail in this race against time for climate justice. and let me also say this, i hope that the trade union movement and that workers in the city will stand with us on december 12 because the right to assemble, the right to dissent central to all of our movements and all of our victories -- past and future. french]g [applause]
, authort is naomi klein of, "this changes everything: capitalism vs. the climate." speaking monday night here in paris about the major day of action planned for this saturday, december 12, despite the state of emergency. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are broadcasting from inside the cop, inside cop 21, conference of parties of the u.n. climate change summit. as we turn now to the latest on the negotiations here at un climate summit in paris. secretary of state john kerry as we speak is delivering a major speech. >> now i know there are still a few who insist that climate ax, even aone big ho political conspiracy. my friends, these people are so out of touch with science that they believe rising sea levels don't matter because in their
view, the extra water is just going to spill out over the sides of a flat earth. they are wrong, obviously. to the benefit of those who still may question the 97% of pure review studies on climate change, let me just underscore, you don't need to be a scientist to know that the earth is round, that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, and the gravity is the reason that objects folder the ground. you could pick 100 different examples of simple things that happen every day that reflect science and determinations of science, and you don't need to be a scientist, as some assert, to see that our planet is already changing in real measurable and alarming ways. amy: that is john kerry, secretary of state, speaking here at the u.n. climate summit as we broadcast, promising u.s. would double its aid to $800
billion year by 2020 to help poor nations prepare for the impact of climate change. meanwhile, the guardian has revealed that the united states, european nations, as well as 79 african, caribbean, and pacific countries have joined together to form a new negotiating bloc. the group reportedly first met in secret six months ago. notably the bloc does not , include china or india. u.s. chief negotiator todd stern has dubbed the new bloc the high ambition coalition. to make sense of where the talks stand right now, we're joined by climate scientist saleemul huq. he is with the international institute for environment and development in london, and the international center for climate change and development in bangladesh. we talked to you every summit, every december. saleemul huq, the significance of what secretary of state john kerry has just promised? >> i think secretary of state john kerry is an extremely knowledgeable person. i had the privilege of meeting him in kyoto and he is been
following the negotiations and the climate change issue for many, many years. he gave what i thought was a master class in explaining the problem of climate change and the reason why we all have to work together. so i found it a very encouraging speech. amy: talk about how climate change has affected your country bangladesh. >> it is a country of 150 million people living in less than 150,000 square kilometers, which makes it one of the densest and poorest countries in the world and also one of the most avoidable to the impacts of climate change. we are facing problems of climate change from flooding to cyclones to even droughts as we speak. in many people in bangladesh are facing it, but we're also tackling it. we're not sitting idle sto. amy: what does this high ambition group that is led by the united states, does not include china and india, if the u.s. says this cannot be binding, what comes out of paris ? >> we regard whatever comes out
of paris as an agreement by the leaders of the world. as far as i'm concerned, that is as binding as we needed to be. if they agree to do something, do we expect them to abide by what they agreed to do. we're hoping the high ambition coalition that they have dubbed themselves is indeed high ambition. amy: let me get a comment from you from friends of the earth. this is the group's president erich pica. >> two different sides, the united states, the u.s. negotiating team, you know, preserving president obama's legacy and the other pushing for an aggressive deal, taking on china, taking on india. but what the reality is within the negotiating center is that the united states is undermining all of those key points within a negotiating framework or agreement that provides for that moral responsibility. instead of being the moral shining light at the united states has was proclaimed it is to the international world, we're using backdoor
negotiations and behind-the-scenes negotiations to surreptitiously undermine every instance where it proclaims our moral responsibility to be a leader, and to do more than the rest of the world. amy: that is erich pica from friends of the earth. do you share his assessment of the united states? >> know, i think the united states is negotiating in good faith. the announcement of 800 money in dollars is a good sign. it is not enough. we know everything that is being said here is never going to be enough to keep the temperature down to 1.5 degrees unless everyone steps up. we believe everyone wants to do that, we just have to push them to make that happen. amy: what has to happen in the next two days? >> from my point of view, i need to see the long-term goal is 1.5 degrees centigrade and not to degrees because the difference between those two is roughly 100 billion poor people on planet earth and we will be writing off if we accept the two degree target or continue to keep the
two degree target, which we have at the moment. that is number one. number two is financing the poorest countries, the most portable countries to the tune that has been agreed in the tens of billions of dollars. they're asking for 50% of the $100 billion to be allocated to adaptation in the poorest and most vulnerable to help them cope with the impacts. number three, have a rapid decarbonization and rapid increase in renewable energy worldwide. amy: i want to thank you very much, saleemul huq, climate scientist at the international institute for environment and development in london, and director of the international center for climate change and development in bangladesh. that does it for our show. i will be speaking on friday -- heree summer 11th at in paris. it is a public talk. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to email@example.com or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]