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06/14/16 06/14/16 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from pacifica this is , democracy now! >> s so far we see no indication this was a plot directed from outside the united states and we see no indication he wasas partf any kind of network. amy: it's been called the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history and thte deadliest attack ever on the lgbt population in the united states. we will continue our coverage of the orlando massacre by speaking
to a leading trans-latina activist and stuart milk, the nephew of the pioneering gay politician san francisco city susupervisor harvey milk who was assassinated in 1978. >> we must deststroy the myths once and for all. shatatter them. wewe must contntinue to speak o. and momost imimportantlyy -- mot important, every gay person must come out. amy: plus, we look at how authorities may have missed a red flag in the case of the orlando gunman omar mateen. his ex-wife says he used to beat her and hold her hostage.. >> yes, he was very short tempered. you woulofteten get intoto fighs and arguments. i guess i was the only one in his life, most of the violence was toward me at that time. amy: we will look at the link between domestic violence and mass shootings. all that and more, coming up.
welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the fbi investigation into the orlando shooting massacre that left 49 people dead at in lgbt club has taken an unexpected twist after evidence emerged he was a regular patron of the club. on monday morning fbi director , james comey said the shooter, omar mateen, was likelely radicalized online but that no evidence has emerged he received outside help in the attack. comey said the fbi interviewed mateen in 2013 after co-workers said he made inflammatory and contradictory remarks about terrorism. >> we then interviewed him twice. he admitted making the statements that his coworkers reported, but explained he did it in anger because he thought his coworkers were discriminating against him and teasing him because he was muslim.
after 10 monthths of investigation, we closesed the culinary investigation. amy: during a phone call to police on sunday morning, mateen expressed support for the self-proclaimed islamic state but james comey said at other times he expressed solidarity with groups fighting against isis, including hezbollah and the al-nusra front. witnesses trapped in the club's bathroom said he also spoke about a need to stop the u.s. bombing in syria. the fbi has begun investigating multiple claims that the shooter omar mateen might have been gay himself and frequented the pulse nightclub. the claims have come from numerous people including his , ex-wife, a former high school classmate and several patrons of , the pulse nightclub. meanwhile, solidarity vigils have been held across the country and around the world for the 49 victims of the attack, most of whom were young and latino. we'll have more on the reports of the massacre after headlines. presumptive republican
presidenential nomininee donald trump has called to ban all muslims from the united states, "born ine shooter was afghan of afghan karen's" even though mateen was born in new york and is u.s. citizen will stop >> when i am elected, i will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the united states, europe, or our allies. until we fully understand how to end these threats. we cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of ,eople to pour into our country many of whom have the same thought process as this savage killer. amy: donald trump has banned the "washington post" from covering its events, accusing the paper of "incredibly inaccurate coverage." "washington post" editor marty
baron called the move nothing less than a repudiation of the role of a free and independent press. trump has also banned buzzfeed, the huffington post, the daily beast, the des moines register, the union leader, univision, and fusision. in objececting to the "washingtn post" coverage trump had pointed , in particular to an online headline that read -- "donald trump suggests president obama was involved with orlando shooting." the newspaper changed the headline, but said the change was made independent of trump's complaint. the current version reads -- "donald trump seems to connect president obama to orlando shooting." the article refers to remarks trump made abobout obabama on "x and friends" " on monday. >> h he doesn't get it or he ges a better than anybody understands. either one is unacceptable. amy: the 49 people killed in the orlando massacre have all been identified. among those now confirmed killed is christopher leinonen, whose mother christine gave an
emotional interview to abc news sunday as she was still waiting to hear news about her son. want to say this is a club that nobody wants to be in. please, could we do something with the assault weapons so we can stop this club from ever getting any new members. i beg all of you, please. amy: christine leinonen's son christopher was 32. on capitol hill, democratic lawmakakers erupted to protest over the lack of action by republican leaders on gun control. some left the chamber to protest the inaction as house speaker paul ryan held a moment of silence to honor the orlando victims. south carolina congress member jijim clyburn took to o the floo ask ryan when the house would
consider gun control legislation. but ryan shut him down on procededural grounds. >> t tnk you very much, mr.. spspeaker.r. i am really y concerned that w e justst today have aa momoment of sisilence -- suggested a we have moment of silence e and lateters week, t the 17th -- > i is the german stating a parlrliamentary inquiry? >> yes, i'm particularly interested about three pieces of legislation that have been filed in r response -- not -- erman is the victimsmexico, of another mass shooting have been identified. cynthia villegas and her four daughters -- yamilen, cyntnthia janeth, abby, and ida -- were murdered over the weekend in north roswell. her husband juan david vivilleg, is charged with murder. we'll have more on the connection between mass
shootings and domestic violence later in the broadcast. in santa ana, california, a transgender woman has been shot and injured. authorities said the woman stumbled to a gas station friday after being shot. meanwhile, another lgbt victim was discovered dead in a burned-out car last sunday. the victim's family identified devin diamond as a gay man and news reports referred to diamond using male pronouns but in the "new orleans advocate," a friend described diamond as a woman in the midst of a gender transition. in france, isis has claimed responsibility for the fatal stabbing of a french police commander outside paris. the attacker, identified as larossi abballa, then held the commander's partner and the couple's three-year-old son hostagage, eventually killing te partner, who worked as an administrative police official. police stormed the house and killed the attacker. french president francois hollande called the killing "incontestably a terrorist act." in southeastern turkey, a syrian journalist has been shot, but survived, marking the second attempt on his life in three months.
an isis news agency said the militant group carried out the shooting against abd al-qader, founder of the exiled syrian news outlet eye on the homeland. in yemen, a u.s. drone strike has killed three people identified by yemeni officials as alleged al-qaeda fighters, the victims were driving in a vehicle around the town of habban. sunday's strike came after another u.s. drone attack killed two other people alleged to be al-qaeda members in yemen's marib province on saturday. a small rodent from australia has become the first known mammal to go extinct due to human-caused climate change. in a new report, scientists said they searched extensively for any trace of the rat-like rodent known as the bramble cay melomys, whose only known habitat was a tiny island off the coast of australia. researchers said the root cause of extinction was sea-level rise from climate change. in another climate milestone, a
study projects levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will smash the threshold of 400 parts per million this year and not fall below it again in our lifetimes. the 400 parts per million threshold has been an important marker in u.n. climate negotiations, widely recognized as a dangerous level that could drastically worsen global wawarming. the environmentatalist group 350.org takes s its name after e 350 parts per million threshold that scientists say is the maximum atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide set for a safe planet. microsoft has announced it's buying the digital networking platform linkedin for $26.2 billion. the deal marks the largest in microsoft's history and one of the largest in the history of the tech industrtry. in california, a juror has written to judge aaron persky to say he is "absolutely shocked and appalled" by the six-month sentence he gave to the former stanford swimmer who raped an unconscious woman. brock allen turner was found guilty of three felony counts of sexual assault after two
witnesses caught him on top of the woman last year. but judge persky sentenced him to only six months in county jail, which will likely be reduced to three months under good behavior saying a longer , term could have a serious impact on him. in a letter published by palo alto weekly, the juror writes -- "we were unanimous in our finding of the defendant's guilt and our verdicts were marginalized based on your own personal opinion." a letter written by turner's victim has gone viral, drawing praise from prominent figures including vice president joe biden, who wrote to her in an open letter -- "i do not know your name -- but i will never forget you." and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the fbi investigation into the massacre thatng left 49 people dead at a gay club has taken a an unexpected twist.
after evidence emerged that the gunman was a regular patron of the pulse nightclub. on monday, the morning fbi director james comey said the shooter, omar mateen, was likely radicalized online but that no evidence has emerged he received outside help. > so far we see no indication this was a plot directed from outside the united states and we see no indication he was part of any kind of network. it is also not entirely clear at this point just what t terrorist group he aspired to support them although he made clear his affinity at the time of the attack for isil and generally leading up to the attacker radical islamist groups. amy: during a phone call to police on sunday morning, mateen expressed support for the self-proclaimed islamic state but comey said at times he also , expressed solidarity to groups fighting isis including hezbollah and al nusra front. on the presidential trail, donald trump used the shooting to call for expanding his proposed ban on immigrants entering the united states while
hillary clinton called for ramping up the air campaign against isis. however, more evidence is emerging that the gunman who attacked the gay nightclub may have had a very different motive. the fbi has begun investigating multiple claims that the shooter , omar mateen might have been , gay himself and a former patron of the pulse nightclub. the claims have come from numerous people including his ex-wife, a former high school classmate and several patrons of , the pulse nightclub. one orlando resident named cord cedeno spoke with msnbc's chris hayes about the gunman. >> you are saying you and friends of yours are familiar -- >> one of my friends has seen him in pulse before. that is not his first time going there. i know that for a fact. he clearly had his picture open online.
he did not of them have a picture, but he would send them to guys. i know there are plenty of other guys he has probably tried to contact. a lot of them are scared to come out and tell the fbi. two of my friends already spoke to the f fbi and tururn in their phones. amy: cord cedeno speaking on msnbc. two of his friends were killed inside the gay nightclub on sunday. orlando authorities say 49 peopople died, the vast mamajory were young and latino. on monday, thousands gathered in downtown orlando for a candndlelight t vigil to remembr the victims. a nearby church bell tolled 49 times -- once for each victim. we begin today's show with stuart milk, the nephew of gay rights pioneer harvey milk, one of the first openly gay politicians in the united states. harvey milk was assassinated in 1978, a year after winning
election to the san francisco board of supervisors. he was gunned down along with san francisco mayor george visconti by former city supervisor. stuart milk is the co-founder and president of the harvey milk foundation. we welcome you to democracy now! talk about what took place in toando and how you link this the legacy of your uncle, the famed gay-rights activist harvey milk. >> well, amy, all of the elements that you have been talking about this morning are linked to my uncle. the elements of our visibility, the elements of violence that are perpetrated against lgbt people, the elements of the use of guns in the u.s. to assassinate and to commit violence on minority communities . and even the element that you had mentioned today, which is of no surprise to lgbt activists
around the world, that this individual may himself have been dealing with his own sexuality. we have seen time and time again that those who come from cultures and come from societal nonacceptance of lgbt people that oftentimes, they react angrily and that internal torment gets expressed externally through either verbal or physical abuse. and in extreme cases, something like what we saw happen to a community that i happen to be very close to. the harvey milk foundation plays a significant role in the orlando community. these are -- it is a community i just absolutely blossom in their acceptance of not just lgbt people, but of diversity in general.
it is -- what has been known as the happy -- the happiest place on earth has now become very, very dark. but they wilill get back to whee they are. stuart, we're-- speaking to you in florida lauderdale, florida. in a tweet that went viral after sunday's attack on the lgbt nightclub in orlando, and i quoted is yesterday, but i think it is very important to continue to raise, aclu staff attorney chase street you wrote -- "the christian right has introduced 200 anti-lgbt bills in the last six months and people blaming islam for this. no. #pulsesenightclub" your response? r religioushe tremists o of any religion at shopping list of people and lgbt peopople are usually front and
center. the harvey milk foundation we do work globally and i can tell you in huge number of f places in te world, we are still facing judeo-christian extremists. tomorrow i will be heading off -- tonight, actually, to the baltic states. the type of extremism that diminishes not just lgbt people, but the role of women, the role of other minorities and other countries, is still coming from the judeo-christian religion. of the extxtreme right. all of those extremists have an agenda of separation and division. anand what that m means foror or young people and people who struggle with their sexuality is they are torn. the result we have seen here of any type of extremism is a violence. but to then turn a dark -- one
of the darkest days that the lgbt movement has in modern history and to o try to make tht into a case to discriminate against another coulter, a culture that is a minority in a society, simply an acceptable. i can tell you the lgbt community and lgbt leadership not only in the u.s. but around the world, we are not going to allow that to happen. amy: stuart milk, tell us about your uncle. tell us about harvey milk, the gay rights pioneer. >> you know, harvey's dream, and it wasn't hollywood -- he was up against so much opposition to his message, which was that we must be visisie, that wewe muste out, that we must take our masks off, that we must be authentic. by the way, the message was not just for the lgbt community, but anyone who is hiding what they were, what their background was, what they're culture was. his message was, in terms of
society, simply unheard of. not only was he one of the first openly gay elected officials, but he was really the first person to publicly and consistently called for our visibility. he believed if we were not at the table, we were on the menu. he believed if we were not visible to our families, to our friends, to our neighbors, and all of the lies and innuendos would be out there. you know, in my uncle's day, you know, i contain the jury, when they heard the killer -- the perpetrator of that horrible crime who killed out only my uncle but the mayor must ghani, when the jury heard the confession, they cried. not in simply for my uncle or the mayor, but they cried for dan white because he was portrayed as a good christian catholic who was a former member of the police force and a
fireman. and he represented at that time american values. i can tell you that he did not represent american values. my uncle's message was our values are that diversity is our strength. diversity is not our enemy. acceptance of those that are different. amy: i want to turn to a part of a speech delivered by your uncne harvey milk in 1978. at the time he was an openly gay number of the san frfrancisco boboard of superviso. >> we e st destroy the myths once and foror all. shatatter t them. we must contntinue to speak out and d most importantly -- most importantly, every gay person must come out. [cheers] as difficult as it is, you must tetell your immediate family, yu must tell your relatives, you must tell your fririends if indd they arere your frienends, you t tell your neighbors, you must tell the people e you workrk w ,
you musust tell thehe people ate storeses y you shop in -- [cheers] once they realize that we are indeed their children, indeed we are everywhere , everymyth, every lie, every innuendo will be destroyed once and for all. and once you do, you will feel so much better. milk int was harvey 1978. and he also wrote a note, if you said he was assassinated, that he wanted peopople to know. is that right, stuart milk? >> yes, i mean, it wasn't a note, it was actually a tape recording or he said, let the bullets that smash my brain smash through every closet door. he knew -- he had death rates
constantly and he knew he was going to be assassinated. he did not know who or when, and not only in terms of that tape recording, but letters to the family. i can tell you that he wanted those bullets to be the last violence toward the lgbt community. the last violence toward any one or the group. i can tell you it is with a heavy heart we are here discussing this situation. there are so many elements to this that we need to continue to talk about. but we cannot go backwards. there are young people who are going to be afraid, who are going to be afraid all around the world to go into a club -- which are safe spaces for the theq community, not just in u.s. but all over the world. in many ways, these are our community centers. they have been historically for years. these are people are going to have this hesitation. and we must that the message out. we have moved too far fororwardo allow anything as dark as this
to move us backwards. we must get the message out that they must continue to be authentic. we need who they are. we need who they are. we need their differences. we need their authenticity for us to all prosper. amy: i want to thank you, stuart milk, for being with us nephew , of gay rights pioneer harvey milk. cofoununder and president of the harvey milk foundation. well-known florida gay-rights activist. when we come back, we speak with the leading trans activist. the pulse was in lgbt watering hole, a cultural space, place of gathering and sanctuary, overwhelmingly the number of people killed, the 49 people, were latino and latina. many of them puerto rican. stay with us. ♪ [music break]
amy: simon and garfunkel's "bridge over troubled water." the song sang out loud at vigils around the world for the victims of the orlando shooting. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. on monday night, thousands gathered in downtown orlando for a candlelight vigil to remember the victims of the massacre at the pulse nightclub. a nearby church felt told 49 times -- once for each of the victims. most were in latino latino. to talk more, we're joined by , director of programs for the transgender law center, ththe largest transgender organization. she's a trans-latina activist and a national leader in lgbt immigrant rights movement. welcome to dememocracy now! can you respond to not only what totook place early sunday morni, the 49 people k killed, but then the reaction to it in this
country, both the movements reaction and those running for president like donald trump. >> yes.. ththis is an incredibly difficut moment that my community is facing at this moment. it is of deep pain and one that i think are latino, latina in thety is great much trenches. we are deep and sorrow. so i thihink that we are, as a community, we are always perceived as sort of resilience, for that resiliency comes fromm beining years in survival mode. and i know my community has very much survived -- hisis surviving violence on a daily basis. these spaces like at pulse nightclub, these latino nights, very much sasacred spaces for or committee. they are spaces of respite e of
safety of camaraderie of community. and the fact that now these spaces are now threatened, now we have to think twice before we enter these spaces when they are are ready far few between, when we are already under vigilance, when we are already over policed , when we are already feeling our lives are at any given moment are threatened due to state violence, due to interpersonal viololence, domesc violence, gun violence now. it is increasingly troubling that my community is not centered in this moment. that in this moment, there was a context for that shooting. and that context is thatat my community was deeply impacted and murdered. and we are not lifting properly our community of lgbt leaders in this moment. and how we have been in survival mode for many, many years. the fact of the matter is,
across the country as i travel, there are very few spaces that really provide programming, bilingual programming for our community. and so often, these club spaces are just a few spaces that we can access safely. amy: isa, for those who have not heard the term, explain latinx. >> is being used within our community to acknowledge sort of the we are, you know, all genders. folks who identify, not just with latino mamasculine or latia feminine, but also it knowledge is a gender spectrum essentially. we are diverse and our gender expression. amy: can you talk about what the media narrative is missing? vigils are held all over the country -- in new york, flowers, people gathering at stonewall, the place where decades ago,
really, was the birthplace of the modern day gay-rights movement when patrons of this gay,another sanctuary for latino, trans people, was raided by police. and those that led that raid at stonewall were trans women who took off their high heels and they hammered on the head and the bodies of the police that were raiding this bar, that were tormenting them. can you talk about what we don't hear and watch in the media now as the story around orlando unfolds? >> i i t think the stories of te indidividualss that were murderd and killed are startingng to emerge.. i think that the stories of survival and the storiries of hw our community is a writing on a
daily basis is not beieing talkd about.t. the ways in which are latino immigrgrant communities are havg to survive to exist, to r really think abobout -- you know, usig creativity to really think about supporting each other, right? and often we see our communities really an ingeninious ways sosof supporting each other and prproviding spapace in moments f crisis are providing spaces and homes, providing spaceces like n clubs, and o offering services becaususe of the fact of the matter is, w we don't a as a brr lgbt maiainstream movemement, i think the buzzword of diverersiy and inclusion is always used, but so often it is n not met wih real intentitional efforts. and d the fact of the matttter , our community is not adedequate, i istionally lolooked at, and
often tokenized. and in these m moments, , our stories are used, our stories e talked a about in ways of just otheringng, and i thinink that a moment t for the broaoader lgbt movement and society to really think about how our latina, latino communities havave been survivining. and the fafact of the matter is, through ststate violence, throuh detention cecenters, through the immigratation procecess, througe journey of arriving to this country that my communityty is suffering at every turn. amy: i want to turn to donald trump digging yesterday in the aftermath of the orlando attack. we cannot afford to talk around issues anymore. we have to address these issues head on. i called for a ban after san bernardino and was met with great scorn and anger. but now, many years -- i have to say many years, but many are saying that i was right to do so. and although the cause is
temporary, we must find out what is going on. we have to do it. it will be lifted, this band, when and as a nation we are in a position to properly and perfectly screen these people coming into our country. they are pouring in and we don't know what we're doing. amy: that is donald trump calling for a ban on muslims in the wake of the orlando attacks. your response, isa noyola? >> the u.s.. government and the right wingng conservrvativee leadership and groups really need to take a hard look and reflection in the mirror because in the same ways that are wanting to demonize and portray other cultures and religions as violencece and cruel, they're nt really understanding how the united states government in many ways inside the tension centers, through over policing, through criminalization is an acting the same violence, and acting the
same rhetoric. i mean, chase was right around the policies that have been introduced this year, all l are rooted in hate. all are rooted in stigmatizing the cocommunity ass predatorsrss nonhumans, essentially. they are trying to dehumanize us so that then violence can be enacted so that then people can take action on that rhetoric and caused violence, you know, bodily harm to my community. and i think -- you know, i was in north carolina when hb2 was announced. i was in the middle of a hate rally from conservative religious communities that were gathered. thousands were gatheredd and i i was in the see o of it. and the hate was probable. the rhetoric on stage was my community is not human, that my
community is disposable. donald trump and many of those leaders really need to acknowleledge this same rhetoric ththat is just, you knowow, that they are enacting, thahat they e actually, you know, causing and our society here in the united states. amy: can you talk about these lgbtq nightclubs? are they increasing the number of them around the country as sanctuarieses, or are thehey disappearing? >> unfortunately, that is not the case. a and people of latinos, ares didisappearing. in san f francisco, wewe have sn various spacaces and clubs for black, quuer, and trans folks, for latino folks just this year. one in t the mission w was closd in losnow a h hipster bar
anangeles we have seen t the cle of circuits and many other places due to this gentrification and now they're becoming high-rise condos. wewe seeing the landscaper our communities change because of the broader context of what is happening, of how our communities of color are under attack. we are being pushed out of o our owown communities. so these nights are rare. these latino nights are sometimes once a week or once a month or once every other couple of months. they are not often. so the violation that took place in orlando that, you know, already we are fighting so hard to keep the few spaces that are available to us, the few spaces that are carved out for r us at at lgbtbt spaces,s, we are fighting r really hard to keep them because w we know how muche as a culture need to supportrt eaeach other. how w these moments of crisisise
needing the spaces to mobobilize anand organanize. it is a a travesty thahat now orlando is faced with yet another space that is threatened and is not accessible for my community. amy: isa noyola, thank you for being with us, director of programs for the transgender law center, the largest transgender organization. she's a trans-latina activist and a national leader in lgbt immigrant rights movement when we come back, we look at the link between mass shootings and domestic violence. stay with us. ♪ [music break]
this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as we turn now to an aspect of the orlando massacre that has received little coverage, the gunman's history of domestic violence. in a new article for "rolling stone" a journalist writes -- "the washington post reported monday that although family members said omar mateen had expressed anger about homosexuality, the shooter had no record of previous hate crimes. but at depends on who you categorize -- how you categorize domestic violence." mateen's ex-wife had come for to describe how mateen feed her. >> in the beginnining he was a normal beieing that cared about family, loved to joke, love to have fun. a few months after we were married, i saw his instability and i saw he was spiteful. he would get mad out of f nowhe. that is when i started worrying
ababout my safety. after a few months, he started abusing me physically. very often. and not allowing me to speak to my family, keeping me hostage from them. and i tried to seeee the good in him even then, but my family w s very convinced what i was going to decided to visit me and rescue me out of that situation. sititora yusufiy saiaid her family had to pull her out of his arms to rescscue her. we look between domestic and mass shootings. think progress reports between 2009 in 2012, 40% of mass shootings started with a shooter targeting his girlfriend, wife, or ex-wife. california, ah in ucla doctoral student gun down his professssor, crcrafting a lolockdown o on campus. the first, he allegedly killed
his estranged wifife in minneso, climbing through a window to kill her in her home. and then he drove thousands of miles to california and killed his professor. last yeaear alone, nearly one third of mass shooting deaths were r related in some way t to domestic violence. the e majority of massss shootis take place inside the home. just this past weekend, as national attention was fixed to the massacre in orlando, a man in new mexico allegedly gunned down his wife and their four daughters. to talk more about this connection, we're joined by soraya chemaly. her recent article in "rolling stone" is called "in orlando, as usual, domestic violence was ignored. red flag." welcome to democracy now! talk about what you have found. >> good morning, amy. i think many of us have been writing about this connection for a while. in theseepeatedly
cases of mass violence, particularly where four or more people are killed, that the perpetrator had a history of attacking in intimate partner, a parent. it happened in the boston massacre. it happened in sandy hook. and so for many of us, you kind of just wait for this information to come to the surface. we wonder why is it that this kind of behavior isn't seen as an essential element to understanding lethality of public violence. one of the things that i have been writing about in this regard is how can we focus on behavior, intimate behavior part -- violence, and similar behavior to prevent it before we get to the stage where becomes a massacre in public? the statistics you gave are very
consistent over time. indeed, if you look at murders that involve four or more people, the number goes up to 57%. there is no real surprise in the information. the question is, how do we connect these dots more effectively to create better public policy? amy: policeman know how dangerous domestic violence situations are, right? is the place that will most likely be injured if ththey are called to a home to deal with domestic violence. >> yes, i think that is very true. i think -- that is a very good point you make because it actually indicates a much larger problem. with domestic violence, we tend to think still that it is private. very often separated from the way we think about public violence or terrorism. , however, the connection between institutionalized and state sanctioned violence, in this
instance i'm actually explicit we talking about extremely high levels of domestic violence in our policing communities -- some estimates of self-reported domestic violence put that number at about 40% of policing communities. you begin to see the overlap between private behavior and public behavior, and the implications in terms of state action or inaction. for many people who are suffering from domestic violence, going to the police is simply not an option. either for matters of their community and race or gender and sexual identity, but also simply because they feel they don't have faith when they go to the police that as an institution it will be supportive. so until we better address domestic violence in policing communities is self, it is very difficult to say that the police are an active resource in these situations. they understand the violence,
for sure, but the question is, how do they respond to it? amy: no record of hatete crimes. so talk more about domestic violence as hate. >> so we have a problem in general addressing gender-based hate in the country. a hate crime has to be coded when it happens. generally speaking, that is not happening in terms of gender-based hate crimes. after several years were gender another factors seem to be relevant, for example, in the elliot rodger case or in the ariel castro case and oh how i've called the police department said, was her hate crime filed? was any kind of hate crime investigation that was started in either of these instances, and others as well? the response has always been, no. so we don't really assess
accurately what the levels of gender-based violence in the is hugelye, which problematic. i don't suggest all domestic violence crimes are hate crimes. however, there is an element of hatred and misogyny that is pervasive in the culture that was simply don't see. it is so normalized. so every day three women are killed by an intimate partner. every week we have 12 murder suicides. levels of street harassment, sexual harassment, rape, domestic violence are family high in the country. so until we capture the right data, it is actually difficult for us to understand these patterns of behavior. and then to connect them to these wider forms of violence that are manifested in different ways. soraya, write, "homophobia is nothing if not grounded in profound misogyny."
>> yes. i think that sometimes it is difficult for people to appreciate, that if you reverse the trajectory of how we think about the targets of this violence, so, you know, here we had an lgbtq community that was shattered by hatred. if we think not so much about the targets of the violence, whether it is women in their homes, people on the streets, people in clubs, and we look instead at the perpetrator -- focus on the perpetrator and the attitudes that are informing perpetrator actions, then we might have a better way of understanding that connection. if you consider the role that rigid gender stereotypes play, ,hat ideas about masculinity clearntitlement, it is to see the ways in which a hatred of women or the hatred of
things that are feminine get tessa laded into sexual shame or homophobia so that it is just a different manifestation of the same type of entitlements. -- types of entitlement. amy: talk about the coverage we have been hehearing. we did hear the ex-wife of omar mateen, which immediately sparked this for you, is that right? today in our headline, we go right to new mexico to talk about what happened in north roswell, a man allegedly gunning down his wife and four daughters. >> yes. i think that for people who are attuned to this, this information is everywhere. headlines don't often talk about domestic and intimate partner violence clearly. so you may see a headline that says "women and children shot in their home," but very rarely by
comparison will you see the headline "actively identify and intimate partner as an agency to the violence. that is a huge problem because our media -- our media tends to raise the agency of arbitration factor. but this is happening every day. it is happening all over the country. until we have a way of clearly identifying the pattern in the crimes, we will continue to ignore it as a matter of public policy. i mean, last year after the wrote massacres, two clearly about this in the "new york times" and again in "huffington post" identify the same pattern. this idea that there is this break between public and private violence is deeply destructive. it is also future article does it is based on the idea that there is a special preserve, that we're not supposed to interfere with.
but if you have a person living in your community that is violently abusive toward his family, that is a concern for the broader community. in this case in orlando, which is often the case, there seems to be no report made to the police. which means we are inhibited as a society from taking further action. he, for example, was able to legally go and get guns. we have a federal law should have prohibited that, if for example, he had had a restraining order. but more than 50 states do not have laws that support that. so until we are able to provide community services that support people in their own homes -- not for the purposes of criminalization, necessarily, because we understand what the biases in our system are, but for the purposes of really understanding the deep complexities of intimate partner violence, we won't be able to address this violence. this public violence is a direct
outgrowth of tolerance for violence in homes. boys and girls who grow up in these homes are four times, particularly boys, four times more likely to be aggressive is as adults. and so when you look at a young man like this one who went into this club and was clearly exhibiting patterns very -- very destructive patterns before, you have to ask yourself, what could've been done to intervene earlier in the process? thatwas happening inhibited the family from seeking more institutional help and support that would have been a red flag more broadly? amy: amy:, you write the third major issue to address this out of violent men in their access to guns. and households where abusive spouse has access to a gun, women are five times more likely to be killed. >> yes. i mean, i think that is information that we have known for many, many years now. on the gun advocacy site, you'll
hear the argument that women should just go get guns most of which is kind of just absurd, for many different reasons women don't want to shoot the women they love in the first place if there in that sort of situation. but also, it just turns out when women have guns, they're much more likely to be used against them in the home or against a child or accidental shootings will happen. that is really not a practical solution to the problems that we face and if you look at surveys of men and women, there's a huge gap between the feelings of security that men and women have when they own guns, and that gap is really meaningful. women do not tend to feel safe when there are guns in the home, but men do. so insisting that women go and buy guns is simply going along a norm that is extremely calibrated to the way men are experiencing vioiolence, not the way women are expressing balance. amy: i want to turn to sitora was speaking to
reporters on sunday, omar mateen's ex-wife, who described mateen's interest in guns. >> he wanted to be a police officer, so he trained with his friends were police officers and had a license to have a gun . he did not practice in front of me, but i'm sure he went to shooting ranges. amy: that is mateen's ex-wife sitora yusufiy. can you respond? >> i think very clearly come according to everything that his family and friends and coworkers have said, he had an authoritarian mindset. he had a very rigid approach to understanding certainly gender sexuality, and the desire to exhibit sort of very hyper masculine behavior -- which is part of being a strong man, having a gun.
i mean, it is really difficult to overstate the degree to which gun ownership is tied to ideas about masculinity in america. we have a long history of that. front man like this, having a gun, being in a position of authority, and acting state sanctioned violence are all tied very closely to identity. think we see that over and over again. yet a coworker that asked to be transferred because the man made him so uncomfortable at work. if you consider that and you look at the degree to which, for example, workplace violence is also often grounded in domestic violence, you see how intricately related all of these problems are. amy: i want to turn to again the ex-wife of suspected shooter omar mateen. she said mateen w violent towards her. >> yes, he was very short
tetempered. he would o often get intoo fighs and arguments with his parents, you know, but because them i guess, i was the only one in his life, most of the violence was towardrde at that t time. amy: your response? >> the rest of her description really supports the argument that he felt she was his property. he wanted her to stay in the home. he clearly felt that keep good physically abuse her. he brutally attacked her at one point. she said he held her hostage. as jarring as that may be, it is not uncommon. we don't tend to think about domestic violence in intimate partner violence in this country as honor crime, but what we're really talking about in in terms of the level of violence, is deep shame. leadership about copper might masculinity or shame about .exuality that is unresolved
so when, for example, a man like this or like the man in new mexico that slaughters his family or, frankly, every week, every month we see similar cases, we tend to disconnect it from either the deeper, broader social patterns that we see or also from this idea that male shame can cause this level of demand violence in our own communities will stop i think it is through persistent. amy: you also quote right away mateen's coworker daniel gilroy requested a transfer so he would not have to work with mateen, describing him as scary in a concerning way. yet anger management issues, something would set him off but the things that went that him off were always women, race, or religion. those were his button pushers. >> right.
i mean, i think, clearly, his coworkers saw this behavior. his wife saw this behavior. his family saw this you have your. -- behavior. but those things were never brought together in a way that could have possible prevention of this violence. amy: dozen it also go to the issue of what we call terror? women terrorized in their own homes, women's health clinics, abortion clinics that are bombed, where doctors are gunned down, where patients are killed. what we call terror and what we don't. >> salute leave. actually, in the colorado springs abortion attack, the perpetrator had also family abused his wife. yes, i agree, i think the degree to which women are living with everyday terror is undeniable.
but we simply, in our media, do not categorize it that way. women are making tens of thousands of calls to domestic violence shelters a day. the national network to end domestic violence issues regular reports on these things. on the one hand, w we have this country concern with violent extremism, but on the other hand, we are cutting social services to support the people on the front lines of and experiencing extreme violence. and that is anan incoherent wayo approach this problem. amy: soraya chemaly, thank you for being with us, writer and journalist who has written about mass shootings and domestic islands. her latest piece for "rolling stone" headline, "in orlando, as usual, domestic violence was ignored. red flag." we will link to it at democracynow.org. democracy now! is hiring a news producer and an office
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