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berlin. tonight, monkey see, monkey two. researchers have cloned a pair of monkeys, are we next? decades after dolly the sheep was cloned, chinese scientists have used the same technique to clone two monkeys. it's raising ethical concerns about the future of humans. >> president trump's endeavors
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touting his message of america first, but will world leaders listen? i will have more coming up. >> also, despite warnings from the u.s., turkey continues it defensive against kurds. how folks at home are reacting to the campaign and the risks to those who dare to criticize it. namibia bochy indigenous people and their demands of germany. the killings that still haunt the nation. ♪ i'm brent golf. it's good to have you with us. we begin with a breakthrough in china that makes cloning humans just a technical step away. the baby monkeys that you see here, they don't just look alike
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. they are identical, clones. researchers created them using the same cloning method that produced dolly the sheep almost 20 years ago, but monkeys, they are different. they are primates like us humans and now the question is being posed, are we next? >> they might just look like two cute babies, b but theyy also aa part of a brereakthrough that hs excited scientisists around thee world. the monkeys are clones, the very first clones of a monkey using the method that produced dolly. they were presented this week. >> we used monkeys for experiment animals, that's really for human health, curing of human d disease.. there are e many other animals, mice have been widely used, but there has been difficulty using
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that as model for human d disea, becaususe mice a farar away from humans. >> the process took over a year and 827 eggs to produce the two babies. it is hoped the clones can be used to study diseases like parkinson's and alzheimer's. researchers say clones like these and help them clean results that are more pertinent to humans. but this begs another question, can we clone humans, and should we/>> in principle, any primate including human can be cloned, but our purpose of reducing clone monkeys is. before human benefit, forr medical purposes yard we see no reason to clone humans. >> but it seems that the faith around human cloning is once
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again on the agenda. brent: lots of questions. it lets he wouldn't get some answer. to my right, derek williams, our dw science editor and to his right, our religious affairs in ethics correspondent. if we can clone monkeys, it is a very short step, then to cloning you and me? >> theoretically, yes. there may be some differences in the protocol long-term, but they have been working for this to the last -- for the last 20 years. since dolly there were some technical aspects that were very difficult to overcome. now they have overcome them and now they are within our group of animals feared these are closely related animals so you can expect most of what they did in order to obtain these clones
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would also work with humans. brent: martin, i have to assume the drive that made researchers keep trying is going to keep driving them until they get it right with humans? martin: yes. but we should be careful what that means. that doesn't mean were going to have full human cloning even though that is a technical possibility. cloning parts of humans for therapeutic reasons, cloning a liver or kidney for someone having to undergo a lifetime of dialysis, i think that's a question we can more or less answer. the question as to whether cloning a full human being is desirable, i think it's something that most of us would have a predictable reaction to. the community will ultimately have to decide. brent: let's talk about the
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immediate positive side effects. the doctors, researchers, this is good news. derek: not for doctors immediately, but medical research, certainly. being able to limit your study groups of lab animals to individuals that are genetically identical will help them to begin to develop compounds much more quickly than before, because genetic variance within a group of animals is one of the big things you have to overcrco. if you're doing a study into cancer, if the mice have different genomes, they will all react differently to your compound, but if you have genetically identical animals you can work with, that's going to take out one of those variables. brent: and i assume this is going to increase all types of therapies for cancer, but even as martin said if somebody needs
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only -- a liver, all of these things are within the realm of possibility? >> they are. everyone is interested in growing livers and kidneys, but whatat we are not interested in growing is brains. that's the big fear that lies behind this. we don't want to grow people, but we want to grow parts of people. that is the ethical dilemma. brent: what about al alzheimer', for example. what kind of implications does cloning have i -- have for possible therapies and treatments in the future? >> we are talking a about developing compounds that could possibly fightht alzheimer's. they would develop monkeys to develop alzheimer's quickly to
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test compounds on them here at that would be one way it could benefit this particular field, which also has, of course ethical questions. brent: it does and who's going to pose the questions? who is going to offer answers? who's going to see we stay within ethical parameters here? >> i would say they are being posed systematically. the scientific commumunity and e rest of us sitting around thinking about the issue, you know, the answers will probably come from regulating entities and government structures. they would be the most immediate agents of regulation. the question we continue to have is whether we will be able to use some sort of global principle for regulating these practices. this dystopian picture of producing an army through
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clothing could theoretically become a possibility. this could be based on the values of communities, and communities have to come to terms with how they are going to handle this. brent: possible, but --- >> horrendously expensive. tillman, thank you very much. -- gentlemen, thank you very much. now, two stories making headnes s around thehe world. france issuing flood alerts. in paris, a have shut down train stations. some areas in the suburbs havave been flooded. the region has had twice as much rain as normal in recent months. a train derailed in the lawn
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italy has killed three p people and injured more than 100. many people had to be rescued. the cause of the crash has not been established. a top u.n. official has one against plans to repatriate agagainst the refugees that fled to bangladesh. he says it's not safe for them to flee home. myanmar says it's ready for the returns to begin. afghan officials have raised to 40, the total number of people killed in a luxury hotel in the city of kabul. 25 afghans died in addition to 15 foreigners. you're watchching dw news live from berlin. still to come, many turks
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are backing defenses against kurds in northern syria. our correspondence will bring perspectives from both sides here. the latest news, the latest on the world economic forum. they are talking about who is going to be talking tomorrow. >> that's right. there is a special guest, one normally full of surprises, he has arrived in. both and as expected, it's all about america first. this comes amongst announcements criticisms -- at his first day he held several bilateral talks behind closed doors. >> security has been beat up -- has been beefed up. that may have to do with the arrival of donald trump.
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many are criticizing may after -- but she was less criticacal after the meeting wiwith the u.. president. >> as you say we are working together to defeat those challenges and alongside that working for a gooood tradee relationshipip in the future. president trump: thehe trade concepts are d discussioions, i think i can say mosost importany that will be tataking place are going to lead to tremendous increases in trade, whichch will be grereat for both in terms of jobsbs. and we look forward to that and starting that process pre-much as we speak. >> it's unclear whether trump was speaking generally or a free trade pact between the u.k. in the u.s.. many in the u.k. believed such a deal would be essential after
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leaving the eu. but despite this talk with may, many expect trump to defend his america first policy and recent carrots he imposed on some imported goods. brent: of course our business team is in diverse. we will now bring in our correspondence. we saw donald trump arriving today and somewhat outraged that someone said to him thank you for coming. how welcome is the u.s. president? >> the u.s. president walked into the lion's den of globalists who mostly stand for everything that he doesn't. they are against populism, protectionism. that said, i have never seen the -- so packed out. when the u.s. president walked through, he said switzerland,
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great country. he was here to deliver a message of peace and rest parity. he then proceeded to have closed door talks with the british prime minister, theresa may, then a press conference where there was that slightly awkward handshake here it, once again made a point of stressing how important that special relationship still is, probably because she's looking for global trade ties out of the european union as she readies for brexit. he also held talks with netanyahu, his two allies. his speech much awaited tomorrow. bated breath at the moment. >> we know it's not going to be an easy one because some are not happy he's there in the first place. what can he -- what can we expect for tomorrow > >we can expect itt to be a message of
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america first. donald trump will focus on successes at home, because he doesn't have successes too trumpet in terms of foreign policy. they will be talking about gains and tax reform as well, two main points. brent: thank you very much. and speaking of tricky situations, it's not only in the business world, but also in politics and the military situation right now. >> politics and syria, the never ending story. and, the united nations has begun efforts to jumpstart peace talks. eight previous rounds of occurred in geneva, few expect a breakthrough this time, but the u.n. envoy remains optimistic here a at outside the e u.n., ks protesting against another ongoing conflict in the region.
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the turkish military operation. the turkish offensive is turning into a dispute between nato allies turkey and the united states. u.s. president trump has urged resident erdogan to limit the advance or risk confronting american forces on the ground. >> operation olive branch continues on its path eastwards. soon, they could reach -- and the enclave where some e u.s. forces are stationed. ankara in washingtgton are increaeasingly at alll i. there's a serious trust issue between the e allies. >> i stated the reasons why we cannot trust the u.s.. ththey have supplied the kurdish e.e.g. with weapons. president trump said in a phone
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call that they would stopp equiuipping them, however, nono actions have been takenen. i stated that we n needed concre actions to reestablish the trust necessary for negogotiations. >> with ankara seemingly disregarding the u.s. concerns, washington sayaying they would prefer turkishsh troops to leave the area. >> i think erdogan will make a decision to deescalate in that region. i think he'll make that decision with the full support of the united states. >> meanwhile, airstrikes and ground operations have killed civilians. u.n. officials, more than 5000 people are f feing for t their lives once again. >> fled their homes, run away to safety multiple t times.
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and d the l latest, , of coursea situation this time of year, january it is cold, snow, it rains. >> these imageges from t the istanbul-basased revolutionary forces of syria show what appear to be turkish fighters advancing into a frame -- efraim. >> most turks at -- appear to support. our correspondent in istanbul tells how all of branch is being perceived back home. >> war on every channel. ththe military operation in syra is the top story on television. very patriotic, hardly critical.
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it seems to support operation all of branch, and this teahouse no one thinks the offensive is a mistake. >> the terrorists were looking for an opportunity to divide the country, but we won't let them. >> we are fighting against isis and other groups. those who don't want to help us should at least not stand in our way. >> our army fighting in power and strength and i hope that with the help of a lot we will take home victory. >> we will w win, i'm m absoluty sure of it. >> turkish politicians agree and it's not just the ruling party that supports the offensive in syria. opposition leader says he also backs the operation as does the head of a new party that wants to challenge president e erdogan
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in thehe next electionon. she tweeted she is praying for a successful army. his spokesperson calls it an acceptable. >> the olive branch has always been a symbol of pease, but now it is stained with blood. erdogan is extending this all of branch to assad in syria who wants used to be his ally, but this operation is an attempt to massacre the kurds. >> statements like this one are dangerous right now. in the past days the turkish government has detained dozens including politicians, activists, and journalism -- journalists. the official charge, terrorist propaganda. several colleagues got into
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trouble over criticizing the offensive. he says they gave turkey's leading media outlets directives on how to report paid -- patriotically. >> have you noticed all of the newspaper have similar headlines? this is actually government propaganda. journalists must sense themselves to avoid trououble. unfortunate, you can't do the upper in turkey anymore. >> what a columnist for the daily sabbach disagrees. >> when it comes to national security, every journalist bears responsibility. that's where it is everywhere in the world -- thatat's how it iss every where in the world. there are media intellectuals in turkey who countries freedom of speech with hatred of the government. >> the offensive looks set to
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stay in turkey for now. the government announced it intends to further the operation. brent: a new york court as her case brought -- has heard a case brought by the people of namibia. a century ago, german troops killed tens of thousands of people in what was then called german southwest africa. the current lawsuit calls for representatives of the ethnic groups to be included in the negotiations. here's our reportrt on how a genocide committed more than a century ago is still affecting people today. >> her family lives in poverty and she says that's been the case since the war with the germans 113 years ago. although, her family does own
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some land in eastern a bid via -- eastern namibia. the plot is too babaron to grow crops. carrillo home lies west of here where she says her family used to own a farm on fertile land until the germans expelled them from it. vista has a photograph of her grandfather. he l lived on the farmststead bk then with his mother. >> when the german soldiers attacked our property, my grandfather and his mother fled. his mother starved to death during escape. he was captured input into a labor camp. later he was able to escape and retuturn home, but by then our land belonged to a german, so he started to work for him. >> she's not alone.
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every year thousands commemorate the genocide committed by the germans. in pure soldiers supposedly poisoned this water source. the locals call it the well of deadly stomach pain. >> this man says they've come to speak to their ancestors. there's another reason why they are doing it here. this is where a german general gave the order to expel herrera from their land and drive them to the desert. krista has also come. like other women she has worn the traditional headdress symbolizing cow horns. the men are dressed as imperial soldiers. whwhat they want is an official apology and reparations. >> i do not believe that we will ever receive money from germany, though, there are negotiations takingng place, those
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negotiation's are not with us directly, but with namibian government. that's dominated by other tribes who will keep the money for themselves. >> that's why she and her other campaigners have filed a lawsuit against germany in new york. they are here to force erect negotiations between germany and the herrera. the goal is to secure direct reparations for the indebtedness groups -- indigenous groups. >> they can reach an agreement, but without us, that agreement is not worth the piece of paper it is printed on. that will be a waste, the money they p pay in the money they wil actually owed to us. >> some support the government's negotiations which resulted in
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germany offering aid instead of payouts. >> the top seeded romanian got the better of germany's player in three marathon set. and a second set wobble to former number one, but has yet to win a grand slam title. meanwhile, through to the men's file on -- final on sunday. he will play either defending champion roger fedderer or -- for the title. i've hockey players have arrived in south korea for playing. ahead of the downtown w winter
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olympics. across the border on thursday, the agreement to form a joint women's team followed talks between the two koreas. they will where he unity jerseys and march under a unified flag. now, we look at an unusual procession through cairo today. egypt moved a statue of king ramses the second, after that ride, i'll be back to take you through the day. see you in a few minutes. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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een flooded. residents wants to stay away from the rising with the said. several places. as the results former president says he will run for office in october despite losing appeal to have his corruption conviction overturned just hours off the judges ruled to a whole the conviction and increase the jail sentence there is enough yeah. later this a lot accepted his party's nomination with his supporters say the case against him is part of a conspiracy to keep him from power he's speaking shortly

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