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morning from the new hampshire primary. glad you're up with us watching on msnbc or listening live on sirius xm radio. mitt romney, the big win candidate here. he won 39% of the vote with 95% of the precincts reporting. ron paul up above 20%, taking about 23% of the vote here. jon huntsman who had spent all his time and money in new hampshire finished third at about 17%. he hoped for a second place finish here, did not get it. gingrich and santorum going back and forth all night for fourth and fifth place. we'll dig into some of the numbers with mark halperin, john heilemann and we'll see where this race heads next as we go down to south carolina, that just in a minute. let's take a listen to what you think about all this. shoot me an e-mail at email@example.com. or text the word awake followed
by your response. 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. we also take you to a polling place in new hampshire where we ask voters who they voted for and why. a group that seems fixated on defeating president obama. live at 5:30 a.m. here in manchester, new hampshire we get to the news. after last night's vote it would take something catastrophic now to prevent mitt romney from becoming the republican nominee for president. he rolls down to south carolina this morning, ten days ahead of the january 21st primary there. here in new hampshire, the final tally reflects broad support for romney across the state. he won 5 of new hampshire's 12 total delegates. ron paul came in second with three. jon huntsman has two. mitt romney has a total of 16 delegates after this near win in
iowa, son tore rum comes in second overall with 11 kel gatts. ron paul rounding out the top three. south carolina's 25 delegates, florida's 50 delegates still up for grabs. both of those states, winner take all primaries after the decisive victory in new hampshire, the romney camp hopes this will send a signal to the republican party that it's time to rally behind the front-runner. romney turned his attention toward the general election and president obama while taking a swipe at his republican rivals who stepped up his attacks against him during the leadup to yesterday's vote. >> president obama wants to put free enterprise on trial. in the last few days we've seen desperate republicans join forces with him. this is such a mistake for our party and for our nation. the country already has a leader who divides us with bitter politics of envy. we have to offer an alternative vision. i stand ready to lead us down a
different path where we're lifted up by our desire to succeed, not dragged down by resentment of success. >> romney then outline a campaign strategy to portray the president as a big government advocate who does not want the country to succeed. >> this election is a choice between two very different destinies. president obama wants to fundamentally transform america. we want to restore america to the founding principles that made this country great. this president has enacted job-killing regulations, i'll eliminate them. he lost our aaa credit rating, i'll restore it. he passed obama care, i'll repeal it. he doesn't see the need for overwhelming military superiority. i will insist on a military so powerful, no one would ever think of challenging it. i will never apologize for the greatest nation in history of the earth. >> ron paul finishing second
addressed his enthusiastic supporters suggesting they can overcome romney's lead. >> i wanted to thank the union leader for not -- for not endorsing me. i called governor romney a short while ago, before he gave his talk, and congratulated him. because he certainly had a clear-cut victory but we're nibbling at his heels. but there was another victory tonight. he had a victory but we have had a victory for the cause of liberty tonight. there's no way they're going to stop the momentum that we have started. >> and inspite of a third place finish, jon huntsman appeared optimistic about the future of his campaign. he vowed to move on to south carolina where he's currently trailing badly in the polls. >> ladies and gentlemen, i think we're in the hunt. i'd say third place is a ticket
to ride, ladies and gentlemen. we proved a point, that this state wants its candidates to earn it the old-fashioned way, that's on the ground, handshake by handshake, conversation by conversation, vote by vote. we got it done, ladies and gentlemen! hello, south carolina! >> joining us now, msnbc "time" senior political analyst mark halperin and national affairs editor for "new york" magazine, john heilemann. they're the co-authors of "game change." that speech sounded like a nomination speech, the one made by mitt romney. let's be blunt about this. is it game over? is he the nominee? >> he's got to go to south carolina and win in a tough region for him. i think unless something dramatic happens, unless the conservative movement coalesces around one of three choices and
the other two drop out, unless romney makes a horrible mistake, i think it will be hard to stop him from winning both south carolina and florida. he's being helped by the fact that the attacks by newt gingrich on rick perry are forcing some republicans into his arms. rush limbaugh was very defensive about mitt romney. i think we'll see a lot of members of congress come out for him. i think he'll announce a big fund-raising total for the fourth quarter. >> how about the numbers, john? 39% for mitt romney here. we talked about getting to 40%. 39 is a strong number. >> it's a really strong number. think back to 2008. you had john mccain had about 37% of the vote. john mccain, a favorite in new hampshire, mitt romney exceeded his vote total and percentage of the vote. barack obama had 35% or 36% in 2008. in some ways mitt romney did
better than that. it's an apples to apples comparison. it was a six-race in 2008 for the republicans, six-way race this time. it's a strong day. i think the over/under was probably about 5 or 36. romney back in 2008 got 31% of vote, so he's 8 points higher than last time around. you know, i think there's not an expectation that he did not meet or exceed. that's as much part of the game here as collecting the win itself. he had so many people expected him to win here, posting a strong win, 17 points, 16 points over ron paul, also very strong. he walks out of here with his head very high. >> what to do about ron paul. he's over 20% again as he was in iowa, 23% last night. a strong second place over jon huntsman. how does he fact near this race, not just here and iowa, but going forward? what role does he play? >> there will be an open question as we go to the other states if everyone else drop out before too long. will mitt romney debate him?
will ron paul start running negative ads against him? that remains to be seen. the larger issue is about a fifth of the electorate so far, the expectation in many states down the road are finding ron paul's agenda most appealing. it's an agenda that has intensity for people who support it, not a lot of broad support. the challenge for mitt romney is how does he appeal to those people, keeping them energized? ron paul would largely say mitt romney is not so different from barack obama. mitt romney needs to make it clear. to paul's supporters, i am different. >> this is the best-case scenario for mitt romney to have ron paul, the second place guy, a guy who's probably locked in if it's 23% or 25% and he just cascades down from there. gingrich, 10%, santorum the same. romney likes the totality of the board last night. >> he goes into south carolina, the reason i think why mark and other people are confident or
feel like there's a reasonable chance that romney can win south carolina which has been thought of a weak state for him, he can replicate the same dynamics he had going for him in iowa. he could win down there with 25%, 26%, 27%, which is not especially strong except against a fractured field. the ron paul thing is fascinating. he is -- ron paul has pointedly refused to close the door on the notion of a third party bid in the fall. >> right. >> but as long as the dynamics of the field are the way they are, romney has to appeal to ron paul supporters but he can also not really engage with ron paul. without ever trying to do anything that annoys ron paul, makes him angry, he can ignore him personally while trying to reach out to supporters. >> so ten days from now there be
w voting in the state of south carolina, the latest ppp polling leading the field, taking about 30% support, gingrich second at 23%, rick santorum at 19%, ron paul down at 9%. how much do those numbers, mark, now change over the next ten days? >> south carolina usually goes to the establishment candidate. they've always gone for the establishment candidate since the primary became what it is today. romney is now the establishment favorite. i think he'll get more endorsements in south carolina and nationally. it's difficult for any of the rival, the two closest, gingrich and santorum to move up and threaten him until others drop out of the race. if paem go forward with millions of dollars in negative ads against romney, perhaps that will have an impact on polling numbers. that's normally what happens. that's one of the few things that's an unknown. we have to watch when the ads go
on the air, do they have an impact on mitt romney. that we do have to wait to see. >> that's very true. south carolina does go for the establishment candidate but it's historically a dirty, nasty campaign. these guys have opened a can of worms. rick perry was accusing romney's victory. >> the learning channel. >> we actually have that sound bite. he was on with hannity last night. let's listen to it. >> yes. >> when i hear that, it almost sounds like occupy wall street. it doesn't sound like somebody that is governing the state of texas as a conservative. >> there's a real difference between venture capitalism and vulture capitalism. venture capitalism we like, vulture capitalism, no. he'll have to face up to this at some time or another. south carolina is a good a place to draw that line in the san as any. if they were going to be venture
capitali capitalists, they would come in and save those companies and save those jobs, instead of coming in and picking their bones clean, which is what they did, walking away with huge amounts of profit. >> newt gingrich and rick perry are driving rush limbaugh and fox news in the arms of mitt romney. >> and sounding like dennis kucinich and jerry brown. >> in the process. >> we've had iowa and new hampshire, those races have been taking place in states doing economically well compared to the rest of the country. south carolina is not. the new republican party is not the old mainstream establishment, business friendly republican party. the composition of the party, you see that in south carolina, these kinds of economic appeals, populous economic appeals, on the positive sense and also the attacks on romney. this will be a different kind of electora electorate. perry is right in the objective sense. mitt romney will face these attacks in the fall.
this will be our first chance to see how he does at fending them off. we'll see what this does to his prospects. >> do you agree that it's good for romney to get all this bane stuff out of the way now? >> he was hit on it early on, barely an issue late in the campaign. asked and answered. he has a chance to do that on bane. i think the democrats who are already riding the issue hard now might be making a mistake. they might say, why didn't we save it? believe me, in chicago, in the headquarters, they got more stuff. they're not urn abouting off everything. the general overarching theme of romney's record at bane i think is being litigated now. they may wish it was litigated later this year. >> mark halperin, john heilemann, you can take a 17-minute nap and then it's time for "morning joe." still ahead here on "way too
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welcome back to dj's tavern in manchester, new hampshire where mitt romney won a big victory in last night's primary. for now we go back down to new york city and get a check of the weather from nbc meteorologist bill karins. >> you have snow heading your way. new hampshire sometimes in the winter looks more like alaska. not this year. that brings us to alaska. the national guard was turned into the town of cordovue.
amazing winter so far in all of alaska. fairbanks, alaska, the first time above 0 happened yesterday in above two weeks. it's been very cold and snow where. where the crosshairs is located, just east of anchorage is where that video was coming from. right now, just rain, it's a soaking rain through tennessee, also kentucky, rain heading through georgia. eventually all this rain will work its way up the east coast. d.c., this afternoon, philadelphia, sometime after the dinner hour, new york city, the rain arrives as we go through the overnight hours for the most part. it could be heavy, half inch to an edge. it wild be cold enough for snow and ice in northern new england. we're expecting higher accumulations in the mountains of new hampshire, vermont and maine. chicago, milwaukee, snow for you on thursday. as far as the snow totals go, for all your friends sitting there with you, willie, concord,
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radisson hotel. msnbc's election headquarters for this first in the nation primary. for those of you just waking up, mitt romney is the big winner here. he took 39% of the vote. ron paul a strong second at 23. jon huntsman, probably disappointed with his third place finish. he got 17% of the vote last night. romney's victory gives him another boost now heading into south carolina. it also secures a spot for him in the history books. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends mitt romney is the first ever non-incumbent republican to win both iowa and new hampshire in the same year. the last republican to carry both states, incumbent president gerald ford in 1976. we went out last night to a poll i polling place in hookset, new hampshire. many of the voters talked about electability, the importance of defeating in november, president
obama. ♪ >> who did you vote for tonight? >> mitt romney. >> how come? >> with economy the way it is now, that's what's affecting most people. i'm hoping with the way that washington is today, we can find someone who has a little more business experience. >> who did you vote for today? >> rick santorum. >> why? >> i think he's the stronger conservative. >> i voted for huntsman. i think he has the best chance of winning presidency against president obama. >> what was it about huntsman in the end that put him above, say, mitt romney? >> honestly he was one of the only ones who sounded like he was speaking the truth, like he would try his best to do a good job. >> who did you vote for today? >> i voted for newt. >> why? >> i just think that he has an answer and a plan. >> what are the issues that are most important to you this time around? >> well, i think number one
would be the economy. >> who did you vote for tonight? >> i voted for ron paul. >> what was the single most important issue to you, what were you thinking about? >> the economy. i'm a college graduate. i'm still looking for a job. i haven't been able to find one yet. that's the biggest thing for me. >> i don't like mitt romney. i don't like the way he's flip-flopped the past 20 years. being near massachusetts we know the true mitt. in the general election, probably romney has the only shot at beating him. i will be voting for him in the general election but still, here, i don't want this to be a runaway for romney. i want him to work for it. >> interesting. you vote for ron paul here but you will circumstancing the wagon and come around for romney if he's the nominee? >> yes. >> who did you vote for tonight? >> mitt romney. >> why? >> primarily in terms of electability.
>> is there another person you liked better but believed he could not beat president obama? >> i did. huntsman. being that he worked for the obama administration i don't see how he can compete. >> i'm not happy with a lot of things he's done for the last two years -- three years. and i would like to see him become a stronger president, given the slate of possible nominees that the republicans have put forward, there isn't anyone that i think could do a better job than obama is doing now. >> the voters of hookset, new hampshire. still ahead on "way too early," your farewell to new hampshire, tweets, texts and e-mails are next. "morning joe" is now just moments away. forty years ago, he wasn't looking for financial advice. back then he had something more important to do. he wasn't focused on his future. but fortunately, somebody else was.
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