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that. >> absolutely. i'd tell america go see this play. two of the most beautiful people in the world. the only thing i'm going to say is stop using my body every night on stage. thanks for coming. >> thank you. >> that's "the ed show." the "the rachel maddow show" starts now. thank you. have a great weekend. >> you toe. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. we have a big hour. micha michael moore is going to be here. when you gro to fill up your car with gas, not everywhere, but in most instance, you will find that the business end of the gas pump looks a bit like this. there's the trigger handle thing that you squeeze. there's the little nozzle part that the gas comes out of. over the nozzle part is the part that we have circled in yellow. it's this big, black plastic
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hood. that big, black plastic hood has been there in gas stations in most places in the country since 1994. most of the air pollution, most of the smog caused by burning gas as a fuel for cars is what comes out of the tail pipe of the car. we also cause air pollution and we cause smog in the way that we fill up our cars with gas. the gas fumes that escape while you are pumping gas, those fumes are air pollution. that big, black rubber hood thing was designed to capture the fumes while you were pumping gas. yes, you are still putting gas into your car, which when you burn it in your car will create air pollution. you are avoiding creating a second source of air pollution with the big stink of fumes when you fill up. since the black hood thing went into place, since that regulation was put into effect back in the '90, auto manufacturers have changed the way that gas tanks are designed.
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they have changed it to accommodate that concern about the fumes that escape while you're filling up. for nearly 20 years, we have been counting on that big, black plastic thing on the hose to take care of the stink. now because auto manufacturers are taking account of it, they are taking care of that problem inside the car. they have rebuilt gas tanks so the gas tanks themselves, in the car, deal with most of the problem. because of that, those big, black, plastic, rubbery hood thing that make it harder to fill up your car but make it harder to fill up your motorcycle or gas can, those big, black things are going to go away. the obama administration and environmental protection agency announced they attend to phase out the rubber boots on gas pump handles now used to capture harmful gasoline vapors.
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the white house decision is part of the latest government wide review of federal regulations. we will remain vigilant when it comes to unnecessary burdens on america's families and biszs. getting rid of the regulation that requires that big, plastic boot, the white house says will save the people who own gas stasta stations a few thousands dollars and that will make your gas prices lower which is better for you and the economy. depending on whether or not your car has an upgraded gas tank that will capture the fumes so the gas pump handle doesn't have to, the rule getting rid of the gas pump may result in you getting a little high for free the next time you fill up. maybe that's a benefit too provided what you feel is high rather than sick. they were looking for a regulation to get rid of and they decided looking at the gas
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pump handle that this was the regulation they were going to get rid of. on the campaign trail, former massachusetts governor mitt romney spent all week says he doesn't want to talk about super anti-gay rights. he doesn't want to talk about contraception or abortion. he has policies that he wants to pursue, but he doesn't want to talk about these things while campaigning unless hesitate talking to a specific audience that will love him. i'll be talking about that later in the show. what mitt romney says he wants to talk about instead of that other stuff, what he says he wants to talk about is the economy. he wants to talk about the obama record that's been so bad on the economy. when you let mitt romney do that, when you let him talk about what he says is the thing he wants to talk about in this campaign, this reason why he's running, this is what he says. >> mr. president, you're getting it all wrong. he has more than doubled the
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number of regulations, the rate of regulation he's adding to our nation across america. regulators just multiplying like rabbits and making it harder and hearter for enterprises to grow and understand what their future might be. >> the regulations are invading the freedom of every day americans. >> regulations invading the freedom of every day americans. this is not a sidebar or boutique issue. this is essentially their central critique of what is wrong with the obama administration. this is the main argument that they have got against barack obama on the economy. it's the main reason they say that mitt romney should replace president obama in the white house. it's the main thing that he wants to talk about. it's how many new regulations barack obama has put into place. barack obama has put fewer regulations into place than george w. bush did.
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there were more new government regulations in the first three years of the george bush administration than there were in the first three years of the obama administration. barack obama has slowed down the pace of new regulations when you compare him with the last guy, a republican. it's not true when mitt romney says that president obama is creating some unprecedented number of new regulations. a shorter way of saying it's not true, is to say it's a lie. it is a lie. ev even if it's a lie and you say it frequently enough, you can make people believe it's true. people can start to believe this lie you say every day. that raises an interesting question about this really specific policy about the gas pump. this gas pump thing that's about to change. almost everybody who uses a gas pum pump in america is about to experience the elimination of a government regulation on
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something that you physically have to deal with to put gas in your car. does that have a political affect? does that translate at a retail politics level? does that counter this republican argument from mitt romney that barack obama is regulation happy? you're direct experience at the gas pump is about to be that this president has gotten rid of regulations. it's a very subtle thing but subtle things like this can have a powerful impact when you're talking about something that sticks with people and affects millions and millions of people. the way you personally interact with the government and the way you personally experience a policy change or the affect of something that a politician did. that can affect in a life-long way the way you think about the policy and that politician. that individual affect part of politics is something that republicans have long appreciated. in 2008, before the big financial crash but when the economy was slowing down,
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president george w. bush passed a stimulus act. what? republicans, a stimulus act? yes. george w. bush passed two stimulus acts. he did it in 2001 as well. reagan had a big act and so did george h.w. bush. that is the way you deal with recessions. it's normal no matter what you hear on fox news or the crazy part of your radio. the political geniuses of the george w. bush administration decided to get money out into the economy, to pursue stimulus and get money out that merns would spentds, they decided to distribute that money just by sending everybody a check. a check made out to you from the bush administration. here is some money. it's from the government. please go spend it. i'm not kidding. this is what they did. >> these rebates will provide eligible americans with payments
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up to $600 a person. $1200 for couples and $300 per child. >> every man, woman and child in america getting free money from the government. thank you george w. bush. he called it a rebate. this wasn't a rebate. you weren't overcharged for something. your child had not paid too much money in the government and therefore needed to get $300 back. it was just a check to you. please, spend it. it was a government hand out, not that there's anything wrong with that. this is political genius. at a very base level, dude's giving you hundreds of dollars for nothing. it kind of makes you like the guy. it was not as much genius as in political terms. political term this is is very smart. in policy terms it did have weakness. if you spend somebody a check for $600 or $1200, most people's
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instingts is not to take it to the bank, flip it over and get the money back in cash and spend it immediately. some people might do that. overall, most people, the instinct will be to deposit the check and not spend all of it at once. in terms of the whole economy, the point of doing the stimulus is you want people to spend the money you're sending them. you want them to spend all of it or as much of it as possible. saving may help you as an individual, but it does not help an economy in need of stimulus. you want spending. rather than sending everybody a lump sum check, a much better way to stimulate the economy is to give people money in way that doesn't encourage them to save it. give them money that doesn't make much of a splash. just put 20, 30 or 40 bucks in their paycheck every week. you're likely to spend 20 or 30 or 40 more bucks than you would
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have spent. the more low key you make it, the better policy it is as stimulus. you do have to give up that great moment. you have to give up that ed mcmahon moment that you get from doing it in this loud way. george w. bush administration did it in the loud and splashy but less good way. when president obama did a stimulus, they did it the way that's better for the economy but doesn't give the president much credit. they decided to do the stimulus this part of the payroll tax deduction. everybody got a few more bucks in their paycheck. it stimulates the economy way my directly and efficiently. the cost is there's no check in the mail moment that makes you like the president who sent you the money. the policy is better but the cost is that the president does not get credit. democrats, of course they do it that way. in today's news there's a sign that maybe democrats are
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learning a lesson on this type of politics. it's not a lesson about policy. it's a lesson about how to get credit for policy. there's a chance that you may be able to get a publisher's clearancinghouse head mcmahon check from obama care. the secretary of health is blogging about it today at the white house website. health reform or as the republicans call it obamacare is one of these things that if you ask people about what's in it, they really like what's in it. they can get insurance without a preexisting condition. i can get insurance if i have a pre-existing condition. they can't make your insurance more expensive because you're a woman. that's great. kids can stay on insurance until 26, that's great. these are popular policies. when you ask people if they like health reform, heck no. do you know what's in it?
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keep it down, i'm busy hating health reform, but i do like all the things that are in it. one of the things that are in health reform something to keep the cost of health insurance low. whatever your health insurance company is charging you, they have to spend at least 80% of that on health care, on providing you health care. advertising and bonuses for their ceos and generic overhead cost has to be less than 20% of what you pay. they call it the 80-20 rule. the punishment for companies that don't meet that requirement is geniiugenius. those companies have to pay the difference back to you in a check that's made out to you, that comes with this cover letter. quote, this rebate is required by the affordable care act.
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the health reform law. they should just add to it, you know, obamacare. the policy here is kind of a generically common sense idea. if i'm going to have to spend money on health insurance, don't waste my money on ceo bonuses. to make it not a popular common sense concept but to make it something you know you are personally benefitting from in a dollars and cents way, thank you obama administration. thank you, mr. president. the benefit of that policy is now going to show up physically in your mailbox in the form of a check with a tiny little ed mcmahon. i'm sorry. he's dead. that will not be true. the retail, i did this for you. i'm the check in your mailbox political salesmanship, that idea is not dead. democrats are learning this game too, at last.
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it's good to see you. thanks for being here. >> my pleasure. >> how much do you think it affects the political reputation of a policy or a program or a politician when people do personally experience something in public policy and they understand where it came from? >> very much so. if you and i went into the streets of philadelphia today and stopped a thousand people and asked did you get tax cut from president obama's stimulus plan, my guess is no more than 20 out of a thousands would say yes. everyone ta makes less than 200,000 did get a tax cut. it was totally lost. lost because we didn't send the check in the mail but also lost because the president didn't go on the tv early on in stimulus before the republicans had chance to spin it and told people that they were going to get $800 and they would see it as their payroll deduction tax went down for the next year.
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we never did that. we were terrible at spinning the good things in stimulus and also spinning things in health care. as a result, those things which i think were significant achievement, he got no credit for. >> ever time i'm driving and i see a big sign on a the side of the road that says this improvement project funded by the american recovery act, which is the name of the stimulus project, i tend to think of that as cutting both ways because on the one hand you are trying to attribute a tangible benefit to taxpayers. >> i know what you're going to say. >> at the same time the reason someone is seeing that sign is because they are sitting in traffic. >> what i would have done, i would have got a mascot. put him right on the side. number two, i would add jobs created by this revitalization project. big letters right underneath it. >> can we interpret on this gas pump deregulation issue the
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insurance rebate cover letter? these other things that are happening to put the kangaroo on these policies. do you think that's a sign the administration is getting better at messaging and trying to get credit for some of the things they have done? >> sure. there's no question about it. the answer to mitt romney and all these people who say we're overregulated, et cetera, it's easy to say like republicans used to say when they wanted to cut the welfare budget, there's waste, frauds and abuse. okay. tell me where. they couldn't. if the regulations are hurting business, give us some concrete examples. spell out five or six that will hurt people. number one they don't hurt american business or number two, if they do, it's because they are protecting children from
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asthma. wl let them spell out which regulations they get rid of. >> when he says he doesn't want to talk about anything else, he has other policies but he wants to talk about is the economy, when he does talk about the committee and what he wants to relace is regulation. that is his central idea. the obama administration is in a position where they have introduced fewer new regulations than the george w. bush administration. the critique from romney is wrong. it's a lie. it's an accusation that's not true. should the obama administration, in your political judgment, just be saying that. should they be trying to refrain it? >> absolutely. every one of the elected officials should be saying it and printed it out and having big charts. >> former pennsylvania governor, thank you for your time. >> don't forget that kangaroo.
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>> i think of them as treacherous. we can come up with something. thank you, sir. all right, guess who is delivering the commencement address tomorrow at liberty university. the same college founded by the preacher who once railed against the gay menance. that's not a kangaroo. we have a close encounter, coming up next. ce. that's not a kangaroo. we have a close encounter, coming up next. dude you don't understand, this is my dad's car. look at the car!
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whole life. on sunday, the vice president went on "meet the press" and said that gay people getting married was okay with him. the next day, washington convulsed over this news. the white besieged with what this meant. the words gay or same sex used 28 times during monday's white house press briefing. the next day on tuesday legal recognition was banned for same-sex couples. wednesday, the president of the united states went on television and said he was for recognizing the rights of same-sex couples to get married. on thursday, the washington posted a sort of mitt romney's, the republican nominee, mitt romney as a young man bullying two closeted gay students including mr. romney leading a group of boys and pinning one
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student down and mr. romney cutting off the boy's long hair while the kid cried and screamed for help. the next day is friday. the next day is today. today is the day that gq magazine published this profile of mr. romney's to strategist and close aid. he outed a massachusetts state representative transgender. by outer her, he killed her career. he was the first one to put that information into print. i can remember his glee when he found the birth certificate said former reporter. the senior advisor outing this woman in the state house brought a swift end to the representatives future on becon hill. you know how some days are red letter days on the calendar. this has been a rainbow lettered week in the campaign to elect
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mitt romney. be the way too gay week started on sunday, it's only friday. that means his way too gay for him week is not over. tomorrow mr. romney is giving the commencement address at jerry faldwell's university. if he was hoping to get away from his campaign's heavy baggage, there's tho where to put those bags down safely not when this is your saturday plan. >> what we saw on tuesday is terrible could be minuscule if in fact god continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of america to give us probably what we deserve. >> that's my feeling. i think we've seen the anti-chamber to terror. we haven't seen what they can do to the major population. >> the aclu has to take a lot of blame for this. i know i will hear from them.
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throwing god successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing god out of the schools, the abortionists have got do bear some burden for this because god will not be mocked and destroy 40 million innocent baby, we make god mad. i really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and lesbians who are trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, all of them who tried to secularize america, i point the thing this their face and say you help this happen. >> those are the founders of regent university explaining two days after 9/11 why we as a nation deserve what we got on 9/11 because of, you know, the homo. also people for the american way. jerry said he was sorry for having said. this is the guy who used to send
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out fund raiding solicitations, direct mail like this. please remember homosexuals do not reproduce. they recruit. many of them are after my children and your children. he's dead now, but at his school they are keeping the faith. at his liberty university they kicked the democratic party club off the campus because it has support for gay rights. they dropped out from cpac in protest of a gay republican group, a gay conservative group being allowed to participate. the school's liberty christian academy, their high school, says flat out that it quote, does not imploy teachers or accept student who is are homosexual. that's where mitt romney is delivering the commencement address tomorrow. mr. romney, i'm sure you didn't think it would work out like this, but this your campaign now. it's here the pst queer. get used to it. a million piece.
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one of the things that rick santorum proposed wile running for president when it looked like he might have real chance is that we should kind of sell idaho. this is what it was like this year in the republican primary. this is difference between the two main alternatives to mitt romney in the republican party. newt gingrich wanted to acquire the moon as the 51st state in the union. not kidding . rick santorum wanted to divest ourselves of most of idaho. all the federally controlled land in idaho he wanted to sell. rick santorum is not going to be the republican nominee for president, but imagine that he was the i think this is a useful thought experiment. not that he not only got nominated but won the general election. imagine president santorum and imagine that as president santorum, he decided to follow through on his campaign promise to sell idaho, to sell off the federally owned, publicly owned
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parts of that state. he decides he will figure out what the taxpayers have spent on those lands. then he's going to sell that land for 99% off that price. essentially giving it away. 99% off. then, after he's done being president and done selling off our national property for cheap, now that he's an ex-president, he's going to go inside business with the new owner of idaho. he's going to go in with a scheme to make money off that property. he's got himself off both sides of the deal. he took what he owned, but he's now going to get rich off it personally based on what he did in office. that would be crazy. that would be even crazier than just the idea of president rick santorum. there's not going to be a president rick santorum.
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that process that i just described really has just happened in michigan. a city that may be more notable these days for what it's lost than what it still has. the detroit lions used the play in the silverdome arena. they left. the gm truck factory left. gm used make the car called pontiac. that's gone. the city is so broke that three years ago the state of michigan appointed an emergency manager with nearly unilateral authority to run the town. the los angeles times at the time suggested thinking of him as something as on unelected king. after a few months on the job that unelected king decided to sell the biggest asset. the silverdome. he decided to sell it in 2009 in the middle of the worst down swing of the great recession. when the emergency manager proposed auctions it off, the
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city council said are you crazy. you're going to try to sell this thing in this economy. it's the worst possible time to sell. they voted against it unanimously. in michigan, once the state takes over your city, the elected officials have no power anymore. the city council's yvote meant nothing. he hpit it up for sale with ad like this. >> out here at the silver dome we have anything from your dirt shows, home and garden shows, concerts. soccer, flag football, indoor football. arena football. you can have lacrosse down there. >> up to anything you want and more. we'll help you. that was the message from the emergency manager as he sold the
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public's silver dome. >> of course, if the new owner has other ideas for silver dome, the city says they are fully supported. >> the reason we want to sell without reserve is we don't want to exclude potential bidders. we want people to be creative as possible and use this site for the best possible use that they would like to bring forward. this is an excellent location and will be great value for potential bidders. >> the citizens of spent about $55 million building the silver dome in the mid-1970s. in 2009 under the genius no reserve auction idea, the arena sold for just over half op one million dollars to a canadian real estate zillonaire. last month the emergency
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manager's name surfaced again. they are trying to get an amendment on the ballot in november so they can turn the silverdome into a casino for him. among the people trying to bring it to silverdome is the former emergency manager. the guy that sold pontiac for a song and who now represents in business the canadian guy he sold it to with whom he is now working to pass the gambling amendment. back to the thought experiment here, this would be like fake president santorum using his power as president to sell idaho for 99% off and now he's in business with the guy he sold it to for a song and now they can use that land to get rich themselves. pontiac used to have a thing called the silverdome. one guy made the decision to give it away for no money and
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now he's in business to make some real money off it privately for himself. suckers. a spokeswoman for this former emergency manager said he met the new owner of the silverdome only after he sold him the stadium. he says the manager has only been working for the guy since january. she says the casino will be great for pontiac. they will get tax revenue. maybe this historic sale was a great deal for pontiac. the best way to sell it at a best price, the best opportunity. i can't say. that's something for the people of pontiac to decide. it's their asset. it belongs to them. they did not get a say. they did not get a vote. the city council got to have a meaningless symbolic vote. when the city council took that symbolic unanimous vote not to sell the silverdome they
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predicted how little the stadium would sell for. they were right. the state has given one guy unilateral authority to do whatever he wanted with the assets of pontiac. what he wanted to do may be great deal for him. it's not just this one town. pontiac and detroit and a lot of other places in michigan have trouble, major financial trouble. why is the solution to those problems to get rid of democr y democracy? to get rid of elected officials? why is unilateral authority by one person better? is democracy a problem in america now? is it a bad system of government? is it to risky when the going gets rough? does it only work in rich places? is pontiac better off in the hands of the guy that made this deal than the city council who wouldn't have done it this way?
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earlier this year they put republican governor's radically expanded emergency manager law up for a citizens repeal. last month the republicans on a state election board threw the hundreds of thousands of signatures out. they said they could not be sure that the type was large enough. they could not be sure that the font size on one part might be big enough. with worrying about that, they decided the throw out all those signatures. doesn't matter that they got enough. the group trying to overturn the new radically expanded emergency manager law in michigan will get a hearing on their appeal next week before a panel of elected judges. the people in michigan tell us we'll almost surely end up in the state supreme court where the judges are elected and come with party ties. michigan's republican governor has filed a friend of the court brief telling the court to protect the emergency manager law that he says he considers
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central to his governance. if the people are allowed to vote on what happens to them, that is parentally in the way of what he wants to do in michigan. what he wants to do to michigan. what he wants to do for michigan for their own good. michael moore joins us next. wake up! that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8. on my journey across america,
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when buying the silverdome
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in auction at november, you get more more than just a world renowned stadium and the prime real estate on which it sits. >> if the new owner has other ideas, the city of pontiac says they are fully supported. >> the reason we want to sell without reserve is we don't want to exclude any potential bidders. we want people to think out of the box, to be as creative as possible and use this site for the best possible use that they would like to bring forward. this is an excellent location, and will be a great value for potential bidders. >> you can be part of this historic auction of the pontiac silverdome. >> joining us now from the interview is michael moore. nice to see you. >> good to see you. thank you. >> for many months i have been reporting on michigan and every time i finish reporting on something going on in michigan, i ask what the sam hill is up in michigan. the republican rescue plan for the towns and cities in michigan
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that are in trouble is that you have to first stop local democra democracy. then you can get to work on fixing these things. >> right. we have to burn down the village in order to save it. >> yes. whether or not it is -- we'll get to where that comes from. why they want to do it that way, but does it work? flint's had an emergency manager. >> we already did this in the last decade. it didn't do any good in part because the emergency was 30 years ago. the emergency is long past. our peak employment was 1978. it's been downhill ever since. flint and the state of michigan has been going 34 years through this. >> there's this idea that where there's big problems or there's big challenge, democracy is too slow or too inefficient. one person can really get it done, can really fix it. there's this idea that it works whether or not it's right.
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>> if it worked then people would go, well, okay. i guess it saved the state. it doesn't work. it doesn't work. flint didn't get any better. pontiac isn't gettingbetter. pontiac isn't getting any better. the whole state. the whole state -- it's not just those cities either. you could take this -- if they continue with this, it's going to be more than just ten entities that they are going to take over. but the problem is that the state of michigan is bankrupt. the state of michigan is out of money. so i'm wondering if governor schneider, how he would feel if, say, tomorrow morning president obama said michigan is in a depression. they are not able to pay their bills. the federal government is going to take it over. >> i'm going to appoint a michigan czar to overrule all local voting. >> from ohio. >> yes, exactly. or even from michigan. the idea that voting is what gets you in trouble, that that's somehow the cause of problems that they need to stop in order to do it, i feel like, yeah, it's happening in michigan.
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it's of national import. it's hard to get anybody on board with this. >> i've been saying this now for i don't know how long, up teen years, it seems. we're the laboratory. and the experiments have not been going well for quite some time. we need -- first of all, let me say this about the emergency manager. if i were the mayor of flint and when he took over flint, i would just say, sorry, we're going to continue business today just as we did yesterday. because i've got to tell you something, governor schneider doesn't have a set of keys. he can't get into city hall. we need civil disobedience in michigan to stop this, first of all. the thing with the silverdome, your lead in story, i've been there many times. actually, this year is the 25th anniversary of probably two of the greatest religious experiences that took place in the state of michigan and i was there for both of them.
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pope john paul ii, i took my dad there to mass, and hulk hogan slammed the giant. this place is like sacred ground to us and all kidding aside, half a million dollars, you'll have a hard time getting a studio apartment in new york city for that. >> i went back and read the con temporary news conference and when the city council, which had no power at that point, could be overruled from him, was saying, no, don't do this. they correctly predicted. you're not going to get more than half a million dollars for this thing. they were like, you're crazy. it turns out they were exactly right. >> what you said about it being a national problem, that really
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is the issue. >> see, we're not really broke. if we could stop these wars, we're still spending 2, 3, $4 billion a week on afghanistan. i mean, seriously, if michigan could just have like monday and tuesday of one week, just a billion dollars, what would happen? the problems would be solved. but i was talking to your producer and what really has to happen is we have to stop as a society along with private corporations, letting them call all the shots. i know this is going to be a little strange to people because they think, no, mike, gm has a right to do -- no, they don't. we tell them to put air bags in the car and what the gas mileage is going to be. we let them build crappy cars for two or three decades and it killed us. everybody i know lost their job. when the state has suffered, when do we have a right as smens to come in and say, you know, you don't actually get to make
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all of the decisions because they affect us. even when it's right down to building a crappy car, you're not listening to the consumers, what they want. you keep building the stuff and here's the results of it. we, the people, pay for the results of higher crime, more divorce, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide, all of the social problems that go with massive unemployment. and that is what these auto companies did to the state of michigan and many other states. and i think at some point -- i know we're not going to fix this this year, but at some point down the road, we the people have got to say -- i know this sounds like socialism or communism to people. >> you think morning people call it communism. >> well, last time i was here, the guy that drove me back here, a chevy suburban, those things used to be horrible machines of metal and everything rattled and the dome light didn't work and i
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said, wow, this is really a nice car. what happened? and he says, well, ever since the government took over, they are building better cars. well, what does that say? so more of that, more government intervention, more stimulus, what you said at the beginning of the show. and maybe we'll have a chance. but, man, it's -- we've had -- we've really had it kicked out of us in michigan and i know a lot of other people in michigan have, too. we can't be defeated by this. >> michael moore, it's always good to see you, michael. thank you. >> good to see you. we have a best new thing in the world. special friday edition which has no political content whatsoever coming up next. it's so good. really, it's next. [ sneezes ] ♪ got it all. here. have a good day, honey. i love you, ok. bye, mom. [ female announcer ] sam's mom is muddling through her allergies. what can she do?
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