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and what's happening the rest of the day? >> so our coverage continues with chuck todd after a break. we're going to join chuck and then be on the air for hours and hours and hours. we'll see you at the 92nd street why with lots of bottles of vodka. >> let's go to chuck right now. chuck? welcome back to our continuing coverage of election day here on democracy plaza, right here in new york city. i'm chuck todd and in a moment joe and mika are coming back. it's a six-hour extravaganza, folks. just giving them a bit of a break. top white house adviser david plouffe, haley barbour, jim clymer and first, the first
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reads. after 18 months nearly a billion in ad spending, it is coming to a close. voters will decide whether to hire president obama or replace him with former governor mitt romney. it's a contest that pits the obama campaign's organization against republican enthusiasm for rae placing him in office and voter discontent about the still troubled economy. it all comes down to nine battleground states or is it seven or is it five or, as the romney campaign hopes, is it 11? if the first election results are any indication it could be a long night. dixville notch, new hampshire, the tiny town which has opened its polls just after midnight on every election day since 1960. they delivered a split decision, five votes for obama, five votes for romney. new hampshire's officially too early to call. now polls are open. you are looking at live pictures of columbus, ohio, where voters
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are casting their ballots. we are expecting mitt romney to vote any minute now, by the way, near his home in belmont, massachusetts, and we expect to see his running mate paul ryan voting in jansville, wisconsin. paul ryan gets to vote for himself twice because he's running for re-election to congress. the president was one of nearly 32 million americans to cast early or absentee ballots. the vice president voted in greenville, delaware, early this morning. >> every time i do it, are this is the eighth time that i've run statewide in the state of delaware and it's always a kick. >> any prediction for tonight? >> oh, i'm feeling pretty good. >> the last time you're going to vote for yourself, do you think? >> no, i don't think so. >> a little smile there. plans to vote for himself again some day, huh? the choice between two fundamentally different visions of the proper role of government could come down to a few thousand voters in toledo, ohio and aurora, colorado. both candidates returned to their roots to make their closing arguments.
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holding final rallies in the states that launched their respective campaigns. the president got emotional, tearing up before a crowd of 20,000 blocks from his first field office in des moines, iowa, and he repeated the rallying cry of his first presidential campaign. >> this is where our movement for change fwan. some said we couldn't. you said, yes, we can. you said, yes, we can. >> for some supporters the energy of 2008 is harder to come by this time around. >> i'm not ready to give up on the fight. i've got a lot more fight left in me. the fight on behalf of american families, i need you to still have some fight in you, too. >> 16 months after he lawn pd
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his presidential bid in new hampshire romney returned to the granite state for his final rally. >> this is a special moment for ann and for me because this is where our campaign began. you got this started a year and a half ago. and tomorrow your votes and your work right here in new hampshire will help me. >> romney sounded a bit nostalgic as he made that final pitch to voters. this is much more than our moment. it's america's moment of renewal and purpose and optimism. we have journeyed together for and wide in this great campaign for america's future and now we're almost home. >> romney's campaigning isn't quite over, though, with polls showing the president with a narrow advantage potentially in ohio. romney will make a last-minute stop in cleveland today, an effort to shrink the president's margin there.
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and for the second time in two days mitt romney is going to pennsylvania, going to pittsburgh. that effort to expand the electoral map. the president will spend election day in chicago. remember four years ago he popped over to indiana. not doing that this time but in chicago, he arrived late last night. he had a dozen satellite interviews scheduled with tv stations in battleground states and in an election day tradition he's going to play basketball with friends and staffers. meanwhile, we want to show you this. you are looking at video that's just in to us. this is governor romney and his wife ann voting in belmont, massachusetts. he chose, of course, to vote on election day. we know that paul ryan will be voting later. joe biden voted today. the president, he voted early in person. the first lady voted early via absentee. a few questions we have on our mind. can an incumbent president win when the unemployment rate is below 8%.
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or have voters been persuade d y his larger economic argument? we'll get answers to some of those questions tonight. here is what to watch as the results come in. it's 7:00. we're going to get our first big clue on how the night it is l e likely to pan out when polls close in six states including virginia. polls in three more states close at 7:30 including the battleground states of north carolina and, of course, ohio. at 8:00 polls close in 16 more states including florida, new hampshire and pennsylvania. so before 9:00 we're going to get a good look at how the battleground states are breaking. so, for instance if virginia, florida and north carolina called request quickly for romney, even one of those, that's a sign he might be having a good night. if pennsylvania and ohio are still too close to call at that hour, that's also good news for romney, conversely for the president if the southern states are still too close to call at 9:00 maybe the president is having a good night and if he's put away one or both of those industrial states and romney's path to 270 and the presidency
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looks steeper. all that by 9:00, folks. keim your eye on loudoun county in virginia, hamilton county in ohio and hillsborough. they were bush counties in '04. obama counties in '08. if they are going to move back and forth, it will happen. polls close at 9:00 in wisconsin. 10:00 brings us iowa and nevada. something else to watch, the margins among whites and hispanics. doesn't the president break among 40% in white voters. can romney hold the president under 70% among hispanics. in our most recent poll, the president was only winning 38% of the white vote but was beating romney by 55 points among nonwhite voters. what is the racial composition of the electorate? it is assumed whites would make up just 7 2% of all voters. if they're right, our republican pollster predict an obama win. able to push the white vote up
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to 76%. our pollsters believe that would mean a good night for mitt romney. one other thing we will know after tonight whether this election is actually over. both sides have already assem e assembled legal teams to handle any shenanigans. legal battles have already begun over in person absentee voting. the state's democratic party filed a lawsuit on sunday after voters complained of waiting in seven-hour lines to cast a ballot. in ohio democrats are battling the secretary of state when they don't have the right forms of identification it at the polls and have to cast a provisional ballot. a hearing is set for tomorrow to try to resolve the dispute before provisional ballots are even counted and, by the way, those provisional ballots, and there are expected to be more than 200,000 of them, they can't be counted under ohio state law until november 17. keep an eye on the margins there. we haven't even gotten to the recounts which are triggered if in ohio the vote margin is a
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quarter of a point or less. colorado, nor floor and pennsylvania automatically recount votes if it is half of a percent or less and if it all goes down to the wire, it wouldn't be the first time. in 1976 just 23,000 votes, 0.03% would have made gerald ford the winner in 2004. the bush/kerry race came down to 59,301 votes. in ohio it was 269 that would have flipped it to al gore. every vote matters. we'll be right back here from democracy plaza. join mika coming back. it's a six-hour morning ex tr extravaganza and then we're going to eat some lunch and go to sleep for a couple of hours. so joe and mika coming back. the rest of the cast, brokaw, you name it. we have david plouffe ahead, haley barbour. interesting to see what both of those gentlemen are thinking right now. for the president it's satellite interviews and basketball.
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for mitt romney it's ohio and pennsylvania. this is live coverage of election day 2012 from democracy plaza in new york city. ♪
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with live pictures, that's obama's headquarters. no, that's not.
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i was told i was going to get live shots here. i get to blame keith. >> it's still his fault. >> that's fair. >> way to go, t. jchj. and they're not so neutral corners. "times" editor at large mark halperin, tom brokaw, the guru here at nbc and, of course, msnbc analyst michael steele. and i'm joined now from chicago by, what is the president referring to you, david plouffe? are you the architect? i know others call you the architect of the obama campaign. is that a fair description? >> i think it's how tonight goes what he refers to me as. >> let me ask you this, if you trust the exit polls, what's the
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first number on how the night will go? >> we have to be cautious and states like virginia, ohio and north carolina and if they're matching up to what we expect in terms of turnout and in terms of vote share amongst independents then we'll feel like we are confident. until that materializes -- >> i don't know if we lost audio. >> a little bit. >> are you there? >> david, are you back? >> yes. >> oh, he's back. >> look at the unemployment numbers. if you bring a republican mitt romney surrogate on the show, he'll tell you the numbers are bad and it's good for mitt
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romney because he can offer a different plan. you look at the economy and the jobs numbers, even though there's data, the economy is heading in the right direction. confident that obama can pull this through when the polls are as close as they are. >> the thing nbc has done, in the battleground states in ohio, iowa and florida. in terms of the economy, they are taking this election very seriously. where we are and where they go, they paid the price for it. a good job of making them understand and go back to the policy.
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we have so much more to do given the hole we were in. the president's vision which is an economy based on the middle class, high tech manufacturing, more math and science, really investing in our infrastructure to help our businesses and create jobs. yes, they're looking at where am i right now? where is the economy right now but they're looking at where we've been and where they want to go and i think if you put that all together we're confident that enough of the american people will choose the president's direction tonight. >> david, what's the message the voters are sending if they re-elect a republic wran house and they re-elect your boss? what's that message? >> my sense is voters are going to be making individual decisions in their own congressional districts. post redes triistricting, it go challenging. most believe democrats will pick
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up house seats. the message they're going to send you need to work together. our deficits, on education, manufacturing, infrastructure. these should not be the sources of such partisan ran corps and we have some optimism. they're coming out of this election. we can begin to work on and solve some of these challenges. >> your core group will turn out. the latino vote looks strong, the core democrats. as we all know the movables are the independents across the country and especially in these critical states. there's been a falloff in that regard.
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is that your biggest concern going into tonight, what happens to the independent vote and trying to get them back into the president's column? >> if you look at independents, we're not going to do as well as in 2008. this it will be a closer race. we have always understood that. you look at where we are today with independents and states like ohio and states like virginia, states like iowa, states like colorado, we think we're going 0 to win the independent vote. then we have to make sure we get our share. it's not going to break to governor romney. chuck looks at this very carefully and we think they will split evenly. heading into election day with
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the lead is so important. governor romney needed to catch us and surpass us to have a credible path it to victory. >> david, in old en days, 1996, if the networks declared a race, projected a state for a candidate, they claimed it. once they got enough states to get to 270 they declared themselves the victor. the situation in ohio where the vote is certified until december, will you key off of certification and wait until december or will you key off your own projections will who wins? the networks are very careful about this. they don't all have exit polls. so, no, i think we're obviously going to be paying attention to
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what you all say, have our own numbers and it will be clear tonig tonight. nine battleground states. some will be close. others may have more of a march jib. our sense is we'll have clarity tonight and that's the way it should be hopefully but, no, i think we're going to have a sense -- we'll have to have the actual vote count. he's never been in the control room. >> people should know at nbc we keep the folks, they do not know what the other networks are doing. >> i was present. >> we learned a big lesson. so, chuck, you asked david some questions. you wrote the book on swing counties.
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at 7:00 in havevirginia where d need to be looking? >> i think it's loudoun county? i think if you win or lose -- whoever wins or loses probably carries the state of virginia. is that fair? >> it all depends on turnout. that's your essential swing county and virginia has hamilton, ohio and washington and nevada, there will be some of those key counties that will be leading indicators. on how independents are behaving there will be deep counties where the turnout will be just as important. >> michael steele? >> david, in the last seven days or so we've seen the romney campaign focus for the first time on pennsylvania and there's been a tightening of the polls there. how did you size up play today particular
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particularly when you consider overall your firewall that you built with iowa, wisconsin and ohio? does it change the dynamics for you if, in fact, pennsylvania is in play? >> you understand pennsylvania well from 2010 which was an off year. we should just start with the facts in a presidential year. in order for mitt romney to win pennsylvania tonight, he's going to have to win 66% of the independent vote. that's not going to happen in pennsylvania or anywhere. what's the reality of the numbers? we went through this four years ago. we're surging in pennsylvania so we're going to win and won it comfortably. it's going to be closer this year. we are very comfortable in pennsylvania. we have a great organization. we built that. we have media in the western part of the state. president clinton had a great trip yesterday.
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pennsylvania when you look at the romney effort you have to look west to ohio. the reason is they're not confident in their prospects of ohio. they're throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if it will stick. we're confident we will win. >> my spaghetti always sticks against the wall. it really does, though. >> sent bill clinton to pennsylvania twice. david, if you had to pick a key swing state that you were most worried about, what would it be? >> that's impossible. they are like children. >> you love them all, you're saying? governor romney -- if we win ohio or virginia or florida we
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have a great chance and you'll be growing a mustache. >> that's just not -- >> wait a minute. did you agree to grow a mustache if what? >> if -- if barack obama wins florida or north carolina. don't let me down, sunshine state. >> really. that's your state. >> david plouffe, thank you, sir. are you going to take a nap before -- >> thanks, guys. >> before the all-nighter? >> no time for naps, chuck. no time for naps. >> thank you, david. we'll be checking in with you again. we have much more to come live from democracy plaza. up next a look at wall street and here is your trivia question. how many times since 1900 has a president woman re-election but his party lost house seats? tweet me the answer and you'll get an election day call from us. we have live pictures we think this time. look at that. it's a polling place in cincinnati. hamilton county, one of those swing counties. the largest in ohio that went
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hi, governor? ohio, governor? >> take care. yeah, i feel great about ohio. thank you. >> opening bell is about to ring so let's get to the market rundown. becky, i rarely get to you before 9:30. how has the market done over the years on election days? >> reporter: the market, as you are looking at what they have been expecting, at this point it is anticipating an obama re-election at this point.
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we've seen that with yesterday's trade. >> what's a stock that trades better on one hand? >> reporter: this time around stocks like the bank stocks, they were under pressure yesterday because there is this expectation that if president obama is re-elected you will see some trouble when it comes to some of the regulatory things, some of the things that are in dodd frank that would go ahead and get pursued, maybe some tougher readings of some of those regulations if it goes through so yesterday bank stocks were trading lower. you had things like utility stocks which pay a high dividend. they were trading well, too, because the expectation is if president obama is re-elected you will see dividend tax rates increase. so a lot of those stocks have been positioning, we talked to some who said if romney wins, you could see some surprises in terms of where the bonds are moving. that's the first time it's happened. you could see movement in one direction. a little higher, maybe by 25
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points. >> becky quick, thank you much. we'll be back in 30 seconds. it wouldn't be elicks day if i department bring out the decision app. i want to do these scenarios without ohio and get everybody to react to it. how would the president get there without ohio assuming pennsylvania? you would have to give him wisconsin. you have to give iowa. they believe in that.
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that leaves him 17 short as you can see here so what would it take? it would take a virginia moving that way, and it would take a nevada. major garrett, has this been the problem for mitt romney all along? that wasn't that implausible of a scenario to go without ohio. >> well, that's right. and the president's re-election campaign feels very good about nevada and iowa right now. they believe those states are almost nearly won even before the polls close. so if you take that as an assumption, the romney campaign will privately concede nevada but not iowa. they totally think it's a jump ball. they think wisconsin is a jump ball, too. the map tells me one thing that i think is interesting and counter intuitive about so much that was written about this campaign. the coalition may not be as important as white voters in northern ohio, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. they may be the ones who, in fact, ensure the re-election. the broader coalition will be
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significant but the white voters may be most pivotal. >> let me introduce the crowded table. jeff greenfield, the guru. i should have had you write the trivia question today. you usually have an odd question or two and that was major garrett. jeff, you'll like this one. if romney wins today, what will he have done that hasn't happened since 1928? >> i have no idea. >> a republican will win the white house without a bush. >> steve schmidt? >> those are those in-depth, unknown facts. >> if we assume this is all about white vote versus nonwhite vote then why wasn't mitt romney
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favored in ohio and pennsylvania earlier when there is this intense older white vote? what happened? >> let detroit go bankrupt. so you have with the auto industry the definition of mitt romney over the spring, over the summer. he's underperforming with the white vote compared to where he is with the rest of the country and that early definition of mitt romney by the obama campaign if they go on to win ohio tonight will have paid off big time for them. >> melanie barnes, i just did this via the coalitions we talked about. we're going to go mitt romney. iowa and florida and if you assume this coalition of more younger voters, wisconsin or high growth states, the sort of college educated white folk, that would be north carolina, new hampshire, virginia, wisconsin, nevada, and would leave colorado as the state that would keep us up all night. why isn't that sensible?
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>> i think the bottom line is that, "a," it will be a diverse vote no matter what. it will be white. >> more diverse than four years ago? >> we have seen the voter registration numbers up and the early vote numbers up with regard to african-americans and latinos. we know that educated -- college educated white women are very active and engaged around a series of issues that are important to them, so i think it will be a diverse vote but the bottom line goes to the top of this conversation that there are many routes to victory to 270 for the president that dent necessarily exist for mitt romney. >> the one thing that speaks to your question, when i was out there, romney's background was hurting him in a way that i think it hurt maybe nowhere else. the rich guy, i was here, and this was a while ago, this tax return thing was bugging folks because this is a state, a big union state, 28% is union. unions get their message across.
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i think out there that all seemed to be cutting maybe as nowhere else. >> we have to sneak in a break and then much more from everybody. the panel sticking around with us. we call it "daily joe" or we're all "morning rundown." anyway, plus, former governor haley barbour, congressman skrim clyburn all watching msnbc's live coverage of election day. democracy plaza, the rink. and, look, we made it better. pull out and show the rink. the outlines are there. tom brokaw will be skating around doing figure 8s on all of the too close to calls. ♪ [ birds chirping ] are you sure you can fit in there?
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we're here on democracy plaza. the super panel, steve schmidt, melanie barnes, major garrett and joining us from washington former governor of mississippi haley barbour. governor barbour, good morning. are we having coffee with haley? isn't that what you've within doing? did you tape your coffee with haley this morning? >> i did last night. we've done 90 of them and it has been a very good response but, no, this morning i've been doing things like "morning joe." >> you've been pretty blunt. you think hurricane sandy had a big impact on this race. you think it is the explanation -- if mitt romney comes up short, do you think it's the explanation if romney los loses? >> it's a national election, chuck. if you'd gone back to the last friday in july, i would have said, you know, obama's really
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got it going. doesn't look good for romney. last friday, in august, romney had caught up, was about to go ahead. the last friday in september obama had a great month and a four or five point lead in october. it was romney who had the momentum for weeks and nothing obama did broke that momentum. what broke that momentum was a blackout on political news caused by hurricane sandy. now we come out of there with nobody really having a lot of momentum and we have a dead heat race and, you know, i feel very good about romney's chances but i'm the first to admit this is a very, very close election in a lot of places. >> major garrett, you have a question of the governor? >> governor barbour, you've been in republican headquarters on a night like this and the obama campaign is driven by data and they say what matters is data, not atmospherics, not momentum or intensity. in your professional career, where would you rather be, the campaign that has the data or the campaign that has the energy
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or enthusiasm and on the intangibles how much do you think it matters today? >> you know, i'm a country lawyer and lawyers used to have an expression we'd say you're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to your own facts. and a lot of times data that is derived by pollsters that you were paying is like claiming your own facts. i saw today the battleground poll all of you are familiar with taken by respected pollsters showed in early voting romney beat obama by four points. i guarantee you that wasn't in the data plan of the obama administration. now i can't tell you whether that's accurate or not but that's what their survey does, very, very respected survey that's been around for years and years. >> all right. tom brokaw? >> governor, what will you say to watch for when the polls begin to close? what are the states that will be the tipoff for you? give us the haley barbour evening. >> the first two things i'm
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telling my friends is pay no attention to exit polling. so many people voted early. that's wildly distorted. secondly, the polls close in florida in the eastern time, an hour before they close in the panhandle. if obama wins in the east, you're still going to lose florida because hundreds of thousands of people who talk like me will vote and will have another hour to vote. what i'm really looking for, these will be a bunch of close races. david plouffe was talking about loudoun county, virginia. that is a real bellwether. the question is, it may be 50/50 in loudon county. >> and then good luck. >> there are so many close things in this election pointing out one or two is almost doing people a disservice. >> melanie barnes, you have a question for the governor. >> i want to go back to the governor's comment about the storm and i think we shouldn't look at the storm as a false reshaping of the election. i mean, politics are about
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actually people's lives, and i know from having been in the white house that the president, and you talked about it in the last campaign, the president was focused on the fact that we have to do better for people than we did during katrina, and i think people got the opportunity to see leadership, got an opportunity to see planning, got an opportunity to see the importance of government when it's effective. so my comment to the governor is about the fact that, yes, there was a political blackout of sorts but it reverted to a question that really meant a lot to people's lives and what he would have to say about that. >> here is what i would say about it. go up to the jersey shore and staten island and long island and you ask the people who are there how great the government response has been. i heard governor cuomo on tv talking about how terrible it was. i saw the congressman that represents breezy point saying, you know, the guy at the top has to do more than talk. now that's a democrat congressman. that's not some republican buddy of mine. the president got great press out of it.
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but the proof is in the performance, and, so far, the people up there say there hasn't been any performance. >> jeff greenfield, question for the governor. >> hi, governor. a lot of talk and maybe it happens in most campaigns about the negative quality of the campaign. it was depressing. we didn't raise big issues, the money overwhelmed it. you've been around a while. rate this campaign compared to some others. where do you put it? >> it was very predictable. obama can't run on his record. and so to get elected he had to make romney unacceptable. some of you all have been talk ing about the effectiveness of the negative stereotype of mitt romney in ohio where they made him look like a vulture capitalist who doesn't know about people like you much less care about people like you who is a quintessential mayrried to
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an equestrian. that's what i see in this campaign. but it was very predictable. as far as spending $2 billion running for president, jim, my view is that's what we spend every year on potato chips. >> very quickly, governor barbour, you're involved with crossroads, will we say the super pacs made a big difference in the presidential campaign? in the presidential? >> i think they helped romney by not letting him be carpet bombed with nobody trying to put -- and i'm talking about in the spring and summer particularly, that he was getting carpet bombed and the super pacs tried to get the public's attention back on the issues, the economy, jobs, taxes, spending, deficit, debt, energy, and obama care. >> all right. >> i think that was useful whether or not it makes a difference or not remains to be seen. >> governor haley barbour, i have to leave it there. thanks for coming on this morning. enjoy election day.
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paul ryan is casting his ballot. he gets to vote -- he is one of these people that gets to vote twice. a lot of you would like to vote twice. he does get to do it for himself twice because he is also running for re-election. south carolina democratic congressman jim clymer. good morning to you. >> good morning. thank you so much for having me. >> i want to start with sort of a question i had to david plouffe. what does it say about america that maybe they'll re-elect a democratic president but it may be that republicans not just get re-elected to run to chrome the house, they may gain seats. what does that say to you? what message are they sending about governing in washington, d.c.? >> well, i think they will maintain the status quo. i've seen polls forever that talked about how low esteem people have for members of congress. but when they started talking
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about their personal congress person it's a little bit different. and so we run 435 separate elections and if you don't create some kind of a wave effect, which has happened in the last two or maybe three congresses, then you aren't going to have much change. and no way it took place yet. i think that governor haley barbour was accurate about how things ran month after month after month and here we are now in the last day and it's a very close election. no way one way or the other. that will not have an impact on the house of representatives. >> steve, you have a question for the congressman? >> congressman, if democrats lose seats in this election, is nancy mropelosi going to survivs the minority leader or will you have a leader shship change at top? >> it all depend on what she wants to do. if she wants to run for
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re-election, i guarantee you she will be re-elected. she has the votes to do that, no question about that because most members on the democratic side understand exactly what we are up against. we had redistricting that went really against us in a real bad way. we've had these changes with so many election laws in florida, ohio, pennsylvania. north carolina, my lord, we got decimated in north carolina because they have a rule there that the governor has nothing to do with it. whatever the legislature decides to do, that's what it will be. when the republicans took over the legislature in north carolina, that was just doom for us. so these things happen. enough people in the process, you knew after 2010 that we could expect this kind of a result with redistricting. >> congressman, you are the member of a body who has the
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lowest approval ratings, the congress of the yunited states, 11% of the people max approve of how you've been doing your job down there. whoever wins this election is there a core is there a core group or cross-party lines within the house that you think can be the beginning of a new era in congress or if whoever with wins do we continue with the gridlock that is already in place with all due respect, both sides are responsible. >> tom, thank you so much for that question because you hit the nail on the head. yes, there is a core group within the congress. i was on the super committee. i was on the biden group, and you may recall i kept saying time and time again that if it were left up to the 12 people in the room we would reach a deal on the deficit reduction plan that everybody wanted. the fact of the matter is it was not left up to the 12 people in the room. there was always a 13th member standing outside of the door and we all know who that was and
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that has been the story of this entire situation. so when you got the so-called tea party movement that you said, i think yesterday i heard you say that they aren't going away, no they aren't. i think more and more people are coming online now. they're seeing what their absence in 2010 yielded to us and i think people are going to get engaged in the process going forward like they never have before. that's the feeling i'm getting out here. i've seen young people showing up at the polls that we never saw before right out of high school. very emotional about this election. >> congressman clyburn, i have to leave it there. we're running a little behind here this morning, but we'll have you back. i assume we'll be saying you've run re-election, but you never assume these days. >> youio never know. >> trivia, we asked since 1900 which president has won
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re-election, the answer has happened twice. isenhoeiseiceisenhower in '56 a wilson won, but the democrats lost 16 seats in the house. there you go. it could be something that happens tonight. you're looking at live pictures of a polling place in richmond, virginia. polls close very early, 7:00 eastern. what time do we call that race? when will we do it and for who? that will be a big indicator. how long do we say virginia is too close to call? one day, we'p with the theory of relativity, the next... stop, stop, stop! my car! not so much. but that's okay. you're covered with great ideas like optional better car replacement from liberty mutual insurance. total your car, and we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. learn about it at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility -- what's your policy?
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i came up with a bunch of proppets, if i could gamble, this is how i would be gambling. major garrett, i would give youing you the biggest states. arizona, georgia or montana, where will he do best? >> the president will do best in arizona. >> do you think he gets over 45?
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>> i do. >> how about jeff greenfield? light blue state, minnesota, michigan, oregon? where does romney do best? >> minnesota and congratulations on coming up with the least significant. >> who cares, right? it is about predictions that won't matter. >> take one, which one do you want? where is the president? >> oklahoma. >> so the president will do better than kevin durant tonight? who will score more points. the president or kevin durant. >> the campaign never sent me to oklahoma. >> a more serious one, nebraska, two. maine, two, does obama do better in maine two? >> i think in romney does better in maine two. how many states will have the winner have won more than 50% of the vote? >> 11. >> do you think it will be a very -- >> you said that so
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