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it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. the president, the vice president calling on all four congressional leaders to go behind closed doors in the hopes of coming up with an 11th hour de. it's going to be the firth gathering since the speaker's plan b bombed, but the big question, will house republicans come back ready to give meaningful ground? >> we will kick the can down the road, jeff, we'll do some small deal and create another fiscal cliff to deal with this fiscal cliff. >> just let the people's
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housework its will. instead of handing over the keys to the most extreme elements in the house republican caucus. >> a lot of people donnell realize he is blocking a vote in the house. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> i am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> i want to bring you in and say good morning to sander levin. sir, it's good to have you with me. what is your expectations or thoughts about hear that the president and vice president joe biden are calling the four congressional leaders behind closed closed doors today. >> i am hopeful. i wouldn't say i'm optimistic, but i think confidence has gone down. i think the key is whether the speaker will be the speaker of the entire house and let the matters come before us where there could be a majority of democrats and perhaps a majority of republicans, but let es speak
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our will and act on our will. that's really one of the keys. i think if the senate bill or what was in it were brought before the house, keeping the middle-class tax cuts, but not those for the upper income, and making sure the alternative minimum tax did not go into effect -- i think it would pass with a coalition. and i think the same could be true of unemployment insurance. 2 million people will lose their federal benefits tomorrow, if we don't have. 2 million people. >> when we snowe the fiscal cliff was imposed as a stopgap on you and all of your colleagues on the hill, are you disappointed that you've had to see it come down to the wire like this? this is basically a self-designed fiscal nightmare that you and all of your colleagues have created. are you disappointed that we haven't been ability to get it together more?
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>> absolutely. it shouldn't happen this way, but the republican conference showed last week how divided they are. >> there are republicans who don't want to vote for any tax increase. that's timied actions here. in the senate, i heard senator mcconnell that the november election -- that isn't true. the president was out there clearly saying there should be a continuation of the middle-class tax cuts, but not for the upper 2%, adding unemployment insurance. so essentially there's a stymie, a blockade by republicans who
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really don't want anything to happen that relates to tax rates. >> sir, you said you're disappointed. the huffington post is out where this new piece on product activity. we always hear the phrase the do-nothing congress, referring back to the 1940s, but side by side, 219 bills have been signed during this latest legislative body, and the 104th had 333 bills signed, so they are the do-nothing congress getting a bad rap comparatively. are the american people just supposed to sit by and expect this? because that's the way it is, the american people's hands are hogtied to whatever you guys want to do and whether you can get your act together. >> i don't think the american people should be silent. for example, on unemployment insurance, we've talked to people who will lose their benefits. it's bad for the families and it's bad for our nation's economy. we talked to people of this
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country about middle-class tax cuts. they're overwhelming keep it for us, but for the upper 2% who have done on average very well, let it go. so i'm more than frustrated, more than disappointed, and i think the people of this country really in the next few days need to pick up the phones and call their members of congress. let's hear from them. we just cannot continue to be stymied by i think a -- a party that has been radicalized. the republican conference is a very different place than i knew 10, 20 years ago as a member of the ways & means committee, where we could get together and get things done. it's very difficult to do it now. the president is meeting with the leaders. i hope we can move off of dead center. >> congressman sander levin, thank you for your time. i appreciate it. thank you.
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wrestle joann reid, doug thornle is a democratic strategist and former national press secretary for the dccc. and gang, it's great to have all of you here we hear the congressman talking about, and the side by side blows your mind. debbie wasserman schultz, congresswoman and also the party chair of the dnc appeared on the last hour with richard lui talking about this. listen to her take. >> they're willing to take us over the fiscal cliff essentially controls john boehner, preventing him from being able to make any reasonable deal to avoid taxes increasing on 98% of americans and 97% of small businesses. >> being held hostage.
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knew that the clock was ticking. >> well, i don't know if it's so much that he boxed himself in. there is a fact out there that we now see more districts represented by people who win by over 20%, so they are hyper-partisan. yes, there are more republicans who are hyper-partisan than there are democrats. >> is boehner betting on the president losing? >> i don't know. i think what he was betting on is he could play his cards a little better. where he really lost control was on the parliament b move. i don't know what happened there. i think peel were hopeful they could come to a deal, but for a big deal to happen action he wood to have gone without the majority in congress, that could have led to a bigger deal, which he wasn't ready to do now, but perhaps after he's reelected speaker with the new congress in, he could put forward. >> we all have words for what plan b was, but we can't say
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them on tv. i wish we could. >> a really bad plan. >> whether or not he can survive, joann, there are interesting write-ups about what's going to happen. the constitution doesn't say the speaker of the house has to be a member of the house. in fact the house can choose anybody. these days the old pattern clearly is not working. >> he's going to be around post january 3rd, and in the same role, isn't he? >> there have been crazy ideas, like let's britain in jon huntsman. he couldn't control them, either. come on he's probably will still le speaker. >> who would want the job, either? >> who would want it? he has a big gavel, but can't even use it. can i know the irony that the republicans are scrambling to avert what they supposedly believe in, which is austerity?
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all the fiscal cliff is the logical conclusion of an expiring tax policy, which was written to expire, combined with severe cuts in spending. republicans are supposed to be for cuts in spending, but these particular cuts, they're scrambling to avert. i want to know that irony. >> and not protecting the 98% of people who this would affect. >> republicans could fix that. >> we cannot ignore doug in this conversation. i feel like doug is being ignored. doug, from politico, both the republicans and the democrats are looked at as why both sides -- for many it means blaming president obama, and investigating for -- for democrats, the cliff is better than setting a rich man's cutoff in the million dollar range or -- and slashing medicare and social security to appease republicans. this is really -- i know we cause it the cliff, i look at it. it's a clean slate for both
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sides in 2013, and to dig in in a modern approach. >> well, if that's a republican strategy to blame the president, good luck with that. polls aren't bearing that out. they're getting most of the blame right now. as far as a clean slate, the question is how do markets react after january 1st? i think that's what a lot of members and what the leadership looks at. to joy's point, i think what republicans have demonstrated is they are experts at saying no, and they are experts to saying no to things they have supported in the past. we're talking about a combined $2 trillion in cuts, protecting tax cuts for small businesses, reforming the debt limit so it doesn't continue to provide uncertainty to businesses. these are all things i felt republicans were for, they just can't seem to say yes to anything before. i think it's largely because you have a good number of house republicans who basically just are oblivious to the election results. >> when we talk about what
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republicans are for, susan, republicans who are elected now are for their jobs, and they want to keep their jobs. >> so are democrats, to be fair. in the 538 blog, one of the conclusion in the behavior of congress is that what motivates members first and foremost is winning elections. if individual members of congress have little chance of losing their seats if they fail to compromise, there should be little reason for these to do so. >> yes, but what he was referring to in that story, when they talk about there's so fewer moderates left, because so few seats are competitive. members of congress -- it's a lot different right now when it comes to the republicans. >> then no one will be raising
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taxes. we just couldn't come to an agreement. look how great the 113th is to start off the new years. >> and everyone gets to say, you know what? none of our problems will be solved. >> i'm over the fiscal cliff. i'm over you. i really am. >> i quit it, too. i'm with you, thomas. >> i wish i could quit it. >> this is political coward is at its finest. they have passed the bill that lets them do the things that they really want to do. republicans would love to eat into entitlements, but has no fingerprints to say, hey, we didn't do it, the fiscal cliff did it.
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>> this could be easy to do, i think, because they were close a week ago, then boehner put forward that gimmick on plan b. if they can't get this solved, how will we deal with immigration reform, which i this i is more politically challenging. >> these are self-inflicted punches, wounds, that they crafted to make them better, and they are failing. thanks for putting up with me too, this time. a final salute to general norman schwarzkopf. he died yesterday after complications from pneumonia. plus an aide to president george h.w. bush. who was the biggest political winner in 2012 and why? tweet me or find me on facebook.
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tributes are pouring in today for german norman schwarzkopf. nicknamed stormin' norman for his legendary temp. the general died yesterday in tampa, florida. he was 78 years old. his was known for his colorful, very blunt-talking style, credited for devising the plan that drove saddam hussein's forces out of kuwait in the first gulf war. >> if they're dumb enough to attack they'll pay a powerful force. >> i'm completely confident we're going to kick his butt when he gets here. >> as far as saddam hussein being a great strategist, he's neither a strategist, nor is he schooled in the operational art. president obama calling
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general norman schwarzkopf, an original who stood tall for his country and the army he loved. most importantly president george h.w. bush issued a statement from his hospital bed -- we mourn the loss of a true american patriot. more than that he was a good and a decent man and a dear friend. joining me by telephone is retired general barry mccaffery, now a msnbc news analyst. you were widely believed to be his favorite general. so tell us about the man that you knew, and for all of us gen-xers and older who got to know him, tell us about his characterizations. >> a good way to set it up, thomas. i think he was a great man. he was ferociously intelligent, sometimes missed that this guy
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had a genius-level i.q., a bundle of energy, more importantly to us -- a lot of our senior military leaders are good organizers with great energy, but this guy had a sense of strategic understanding of the battlefield, so what's discounted nowadays is that four-day ground victory for the first war, going into it we were dealing with the fourth largest army in the face of the earth that then was pulled apart by u.s. airpower, naval power, but more importantly by schwarzkopf, instead of banging away directly at the enemy and circling the whole force. he loved soldiers. he was a remarkable man, and as frequently noted, he had a temper. if you weren't taking care of soldiers or following the bouncing ball, you would understand quickly he was
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displeased with you. >> one thing we got to know the general by were the legendary press briefings, and at the time, you know, it was a very honest conversations being had, but in reflection, the general made it very object that he was trying to speak directly to saddam hussein. that was the audience, correct? for who he was trying to talk to? >> it was a new war. the most highly covered conflict, with live tv on the ground, schwarzkopf and colin powell and that wonderful first president bush all were products of their background. schwarzkopf personally was wounded twice in combat in vietnam, three silver stars. powell wounded in combat, president bush an 18-year-old naval carrier pilot. these were senior leaders who understood the limitations of military power and the dangers. so, you know, i think
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schwarzkopf tried to directly communicate with a lot of audiences -- the american people, his own soldiers who he -- we had tremendous sense of confidence by his public leadership, and he was very comfortable talking to the press. he knew what he had to do, but i think the country was well served by that leadership team. >> general real quickly, before i let you go president george h.w. bush issued a statement in respect of the loss of the general, but also his chief of stat wants the well-wishers to put the harps back in the closet. what are your thoughts about hearing the president and hopefully on the upswing of the bronchitis and fever that he's had? >> good news, talking about that first president bush, i view him as american nobility. this was a life of public service that's worth emulating and understanding. from the time this president
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bush left andover as a teenage boy to fight in world war ii right through the end of his days, he's been a public servant dedicated to american people. >> he originates from a time when leaders were truly groomed from birth. >> absolutely. >> i appreciate your time and insights today. >> all right, thomas. right now president george h.w. bush is listed in guarded condition. charles hadlock joins us live from the hospital. as you're listening to the general talk about the fact that the president should be listed as among the nobility of this country action explain to all of us where he stands right now, the care he's getting about the series of setbacks he's faced over the month? >> reporter: good morning, thomas. former president bush remains in guarded condition at methodist hospital in houston. that's about all the information we have about the president, because the family has now asked for privacy, as he continues treatment for a persistent cough and fever. he was admitted to the hospital
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here in houston back on november 23rd, complaining of a could have. last sunday he was placed in icu because of his weakened did not and a persistent fever. now the family is asking for privacy. but just yesterday his former -- his chief of staff gene becker sent an e-mail to family and friends. in that e-mail she says -- sell he sick? yes. does he plan on going anywhere soon? no. he has every intention of staying put. becker went on to say that going forward, the family intends to deal with the health issues in private. thomas? >> that is the resolve we know and love. charles hadlock in houston, texas, good to see you. thank you, sir. at least 16 dead from the first massive winter storm. and another storm waiting in the wings. we'll bring you the latest on that. plus dr. ruth weighs in on the fiscal cliff debate. wait until you hear her take on this situation. we'll bring you the details
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the new system is likely to deliver a round of new headaches. many said the best idea might be just to stay home. >> if you've not got four-wheel drive, i suggest you stay home. >> we're stuck at home, so we might as well have fun. >> we figured we we might as well enjoy it while we can. >> down south, cameras capturing the damage in south carolina. this is a look where new snow is expected. the quick-moving storm should be exiting sunday. a gunman opens fire inside a new jersey police station. at least officers are shot. we bring you the full details ahead. plus arming or educators
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this is cnbc's brian sullivan. not 300 million a week, but 300 a week. how quickly average americans will start to feel the pinch in their paychecks. >> hey, 3 million a week that's joe scarborough type money here. but i get your point. taxes are very complex. it depends if you're married, do you have kids, do you own a home? all the numbers you'll use will be pretty general based on sort of the average family calculation. if you're a median income household, you'll probably be what canned to about $300 every week. as your income goes up, especially in the higher%, you're going to get hid. in you're in the fact top 1%, and certainly -- those are tax increases, $120,000 a year in additional taxes. for some people, as rich as they are, that's going to hit, but to
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your point it will hit everybody. you can just google and put in your own information, kids, house, whatever income. you can figure out exactly where you're going to get hit. let's hope we get a deal form the president is supposed to outline something you addressed, and also the a.m.t., which is quite possibly the most confusing aspect. both of my parents, by the way, are accountants, and i'm confused by it, and i work for cnbc. it's a confusing thing. go to the calculator. >> you should be a prodigy on this stuff, brian. >> yeah, like the outdated computer service. that's the closest analogy i can bring. >> there are so many american that is do live paycheck to paycheck that have this cash accounted for biweekly, monthly, and we have the milk cliff? if congress doesn't pass a farm bill an american staple could become a luxury? where milk is now, it should
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double? within the new year? >> it could. you say milk cliff or dairy cliff, it's easy to chuckle, but it is a serious topic. milk is a staple in every household. it has to do with the 1949 farm -- yes, 1949 farm bill that was passed that basically protected farmers against sudden spikes in the cost of grain, sort of capped their costs. you say, well, grain, of course you feed your dairy cattle grain and feed. if they don't have that insurance on feed costs, then obviously their feed costs will spike, they're not going to go out of business. they're not going to lose money. they're going to pass it on. so there is talk out there if this farm bill is not extended as part of this or a separate deal, that farmers will be able to charge what they want. that could lead to milk even more than doubling. it's about 3.50 to 3.75
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nationwide. >> i want your tick on the po port -- >> we have the big red doing, cliff clafb, listen, to me this is probably a bigger issue in the short term. here's the thing. 15 ports, container ports may go on strike if they don't get a deal made on their contract. they extended from september to now, it's going to expire. this is 40% of the nation's container traffic. it won't impact cars, food or military items. they'll still work for load and unload those, but 40% of all the goods that will come in our out of the this country sitting idle at 15 different ports? that could slam retail sales. our economy, 74% consumer spending, could cost us a billion dollars a day. take your pick of cliffs. we have a cornucopia of cliffs to face as we head into this new
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year. >> one at a time. brian sullivan, thank you, sir. just after firefighters were shot in webster, new york. there's another deadly shooting. three police officers from camden, new jersey are in the hospital off being shot in a police state officials say one was shot below his bulletproof vest. the other two officers are being treated for graze wounds. police say the suspect was being processed for a domestic incident when he grabbed a gun and started firing. meanwhile, proposals over the debate about arming teachers in school is picking up steam in the wake of the massacre in sandy hook. several states are proposing gun legislation to allow teachers or other schoolworkers to carry firearms. utah where they have held training for teachers in ten years is seeing a major uptick in firearms training. just yesterday 150 teachers took
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advantage of the free training, and how to respond to mass violence at school. meantime, arizona's attorney general tom horn is pushing a han to -- joining mess is general tom horne, and david purnell. mr. horne, i want to start with you, public spot is there, there's 64% of americans say that arming teachers is an effective solution, but i want you to take a listen to what the nea president said last hour right here on msnbc. >> policemen you are given incredible training in when and how to shoot a firearm. we've had incidents with even police that innocent bystanders have been killed, the idea that a teacher who receives a course in gun safety is now prepared to deal where the kind of situation in school, it just doesn't makes sense. >> attorney general horne, what
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do you say to those who say this is a dangerous solution to a different type of problem? >> well, i've actually been opposed to letting all teachers bring arms to school. i try to find the middle way. this creates more danger than it solves. on the other hand, if we did nothing and there was a preventible incident lie newtown, we would regret having done nothing. i appropriate having the principal or someone designated, just one person per school get intensive training, trained not only in marksmanship, but in judgment, determine how to -- >> is this like the air marshal program, where air marshals are now on the country's planes, we don't know on the flight who that air marshal would be, so obviously with the training you're saying, elect one person in the school that maybe no one will know, is that selected person? >> exactly. in fact, it's really analogous
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to the pilots really being able to have guns, but they decided it was a good idea, and i think it would help lessen the danger of another newtown without creating more problems than it solves, which i'm afraid would happen if we allowed all teachers to bring guns to school. >> david, i know you help train those teachers. yesterday i had an opportunity to have someone on the show that's looking into this. i want to play what they said. >> we had about 200 teachers, and it was broken into two farther, the first part was about mass violence action and how to disrupt that. a firearm was one of the components. so are fire extinguishers, pepper spray and tasers. basically a three-part phase to that training took place, which was run, hide and fight. in hiding doesn't work, which often it doesn't, and the
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teachers can't run away and the children can't escape. firearms is one of the alternative. not a close proximity weapon like tasers or pepper sprays. in the state of utah we've had about a decade-plus of teachers carrying concealed firearms in some of the schools. we're not trying to arm every teacher, but trying to give every teacher the opportunity to be armed. that is their right in this state. i think the teachers have personalized what happened in connecticut, and i think they personalized it, because they live in the classroom and know the hide drill, one of thundershower mechanisms to save themselves just sometimes postpones the inevitable disaster when a mad man comes in. >> forgive me, i want to say what the utah teacher had to say yesterday after receiving this training. >> now especially, i'm thinking this would be a great opportunity to be able to protect the children, ploekt the classroom, protect the teachers, if that opportunities arises.
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so that's the reason i'm hirivities so specifically talk about what the training regimen is. >> the training yesterday was broken into two parts. we had the overview of mass violence, the dynamic, what happens physiologically in the body and the brain, how they deal with that, breathe through that and think a little clearer, act more responsibly and clearly which will help save lives. the second part is the ccp or concealed and carry weapons permit. they were fingerprinted, went through a regimented course, approved by the bci in utah. they were all ability to at that time send in their paperwork. i don't think all of them sent in the paperwork will necessarily carry firearms into the schools, but we were trying to help them exercise that right for those who desire it. we have -- in the past we've run scenarios, we've run scenarios in our training facility for not only law enforcement and military, but civilians. we put people in a scenario
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where they are being attacked and asoughted. we've watched that behaviors. those that don't have a standoff alternative succumb to the violence of the bad guy. those that have a standoff alternative are often able to not only save their lives, but to mitigate risk and save the lives of those people also being assaulted. attorney general, let me ask when you talk about the training program, is this something that piques user interest? also, i want to find out why you support wanting to do this in certainly schools, do you also support getting assault weapons off our streets, the ban that may have federal support coming in the new year? >> well, i've taken some training from our investigators who are sworn police officers and who would do training, including a simulator, which is very helpful. the simulate situations that people might encounter, and you have a plastic gun that records
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on the computer how you reacted and you get to refine your reactions, so i think that intensive training can train so there's somebody on the campus who knows what he or she is doing and is able to minimize the chance of another newtown. i think that would be important. do you support, though, a ban on assault weapons. do you support trying to get assault-style weapons off the streets? >> you know, i think that's a question for legislators. that's outside my jurisdiction. my jurisdiction is to enforce the laws that do exist. so my proposal for training people in the schools is along with the jurisdiction that i have as attorney general. sglool attorney general tom horne and david burnell, thank you for your time. i really appreciate it. just a few more hours until president obama's meeting with the four congressional leaders, just four more days until the country, all of us americans go off the cliff. why this might just work out.
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well, i think this is a very pivotal point for our country. we have to get beyond people sort of automatically knee-jerk response to the pledge of no new taxes. >> i can't believe that these five people who are charged with the responsibility of governing this nation can't come to some sort of agreement to put this sdasries event off. what if both sides actually are -- what do both sides stand
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to gain by going over the cliff in that's what our next guest points out, where he says that many of them have calculated it is better to go over the cliff, at least temporarily, than swallow a raw deal. with me is jonathan allen. it's good to have you here. break it down for us. what's in it for both sides? >> i think what is at work here is going over the fiscal cliff is a better option than the worst-scale snare i don't. it matt not be the optimal snare i don't, but for republicans, they would have an tune to vote for tack cuts. they also may figure they'll have an opportunity to negotiate for other items. they don't want to cave for president obama. on the democratic side, they're winning the public relations war on this.
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republicans, if you look at the polls are in the 20s right now, president obama is sitting in the mid 50s on the fiscal cliff. they don't want to give up things. they don't want to give up cuts to medicare or social security in order to get a deal that may not be best for them. if you look at game theory, you know, economic and political game theory, if all the players understand the strategies of the other players and act rationally, sometimes they won't move off the strategy that they are on. >> should americans have optimist about this 3:00 meeting this afternoon at the white house or basically it's humpty-dumpty, we're going off the wall, we're going to break, but we can be put back together. >> it doesn't mean they won't get an agreement on the phone, but i don't remember any high-plo file white house meeting producing anything other than leaked stories about how one leader told the other leader how tough he is and how weak the other guy is.
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these are, generally speaking made for optics, so we talk about it. jonathan allen, great to see you, thank for your time. >> my pleasure. we talked in the last segment about the milk cliff, it looks like the container cliff will be averted. the mediator in the port works contract dispute says they have extended the contract no 30 days at issue was royaltied for incoming containers, so basically kicking the container cliff down the road no 30 days. we have asked, you have answered. besides president obama, who is the biggest political winner of 2012 and why? some of answers we got, very interesting. lawrence william says hands down chris christie, he had a great year. liberals, we can say it with pride again. we get this from pixie sherry,
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what does sex have in common with the fiscal cliff? i'm now for the sidebar. america's most famous sex therapist is weighing in on the stalled attacks. here's her take on this. members of congress who can't compromise probably aren't good lovers, sex requires give and take. allen west is one of hose members at least for the next few days. it is month surprise the
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