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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. definitely a dangerous individual, especially on the street. you wouldn't want to turn your back on him. >> stood over him, shot him six times in the face. >> a gang banker squares off with his victim's family in court. >> i hope you rot in prison the rest of your life. >> and another inmate in jail. a young woman is arrested for a crime reminiscent of the grinch.
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>> i took kids' christmas presents, that's what i did. i made out like a bandit. >> and -- >> i was a proactive deputy. i was also a very sincere deputy. >> staff must deal with a former colleague gone bad. >> there's a learned etiquette of how things are done in jail. we call it jailing. >> grand rapids is located almost equal distances between chicago and detroit. it is a fraction of the size of either. many who live here say it has all the benefits of a big city with few of the problems. just outside town, problems are
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an all too part of life. >> all the way in front of the desk there, guys. >> the kent county jail houses about 1,000 men or women. most of them are convicted but most are only charged with crimes. and are awaiting trial or resolution of their cases. >> any problem? >> no problems, sir. >> captain randy demry has been confronting problems for 25 years he worked at the jail. >> good friend of mine said the thing that makes corrections so easy is that all you have to do is get voluntary compliance out of a bunch of people who have already proven that they will not voluntarily comply with the rules of society. so piece of cake. and we're in a position where we can get to a very large degree voluntary compliance out of that group of people, so actually the challenge of that is rewarding and fun. >> some challenges like those
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presented by joe leija can take longer to resolve than others. >> he doesn't come across as a dangerous guy, he's respectful to the officers, but it's not one of those guys i would trust. he's definitely a dangerous individual, especially on the street, and within his gang world. you wouldn't want to turn your back on him. >> he was recently confined to segregation unit where he's locked in a single man cell 23 hours per day. jail surveillance footage shows why. >> he is down here and his accomplice is kind of walking around in the day room there. there was some form of disrespect the night before, and they were kind of waiting for this inmate to come out of his cell. and as soon as he comes out, the two of them begin an assault on him. one inmate throws a couple punches but mr. leija is the aggressor. an officer doing a block check at the time uses his oc spray to
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get them to separate and orders them to get on the ground. >> he is an admitted gang member and has proven violent on the streets. originally charged with first degree murder, he eventually pled guilty to second-degree murder in hopes of receiving a lighter sentence. he is eligible for 75 years in prison. >> shot a man six times in the face. no matter how much of a gangster i am, what i think i am, i struggle with that say when i first got here. like i struggled with that for real. i could go back, change some things, still would have shot him. but i wouldn't have hit him in the face and i wouldn't have killed him. >> according to prosecutors, leija and his co-defendant met a 43-year-old man at the home of a
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mutual female friend in order to sell him 5 pounds of marijuana, but instead, leija drew a gun and attempted to rob the man. >> he reached for it, boom, grabbed it, went off two times, hit him in the chest. by that time, i wasn't thinking. i feel like i just snapped. i shouldn't have done what i did, but i did and he was done when i shot him two times. when he went down, i stood over him and shot him six times in the face. the aftermath at the scene, it was bad, and i'm not proud of it in any way, but i know because i was there, i did it. he barely had a face when i was done with him. >> leija has been at kent county jail since his arrest 26 months earlier. even though he pled guilty to second degree murder, he has not been sentenced. his judge cannot hand down the sentence until his co-defendant's trial is complete. that's been dragging on for two years. >> is there anything you look forward to? >> some fresh air.
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i haven't been outside in 26 months and 3 days i have not been outside and breathed the air. this is the air i breathe from these vents. >> as an adult, he had prior convictions for possession of marijuana and assault and battery. before that, he had numerous stays in the county's juvenile facility. >> already had my hands on a gun at a very young age. grew up too fast maybe, running the streets, smoking weed, stealing cars. lot of people say my mom wasn't a good mom, my dad wasn't a good father. that's not what i am saying. i am saying i wasn't the best kid, you know. >> roll, salad, cake. same thing we get every day. >> that's why we're fat. >> we are the fat group. >> in the women's wing of the jail, vicki groth. she admits she hasn't always been the ideal kid, either.
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while her crime didn't physically injure anyone, it might have still been painful for her young victims. >> i feel really bad for what i did. not for what i did, who i did it to. i took kids' christmas presents. that's what i did. i'm not very proud of myself for what i did, at all. >> all set? >> groth's christmas caper began when she was staying at a friend's house. >> they left and i was still there. i started rummaging through stuff, i guess. i found the receipts. i was like, well, where's the presents? so i started looking. i went to the closet and found justin beiber doll and some baby toys and gathered them up, put them in the bag, had receipts in my pocket, rode my bike up to toys "r" us. >> how much money did you get? >> $72. >> groth eventually pled guilty to larceny, was sentenced to six months in jail. she says stealing has been a compulsion for as long as she
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can remember. >> stealing something since i was five, wasn't able to keep my hands off stuff that wasn't mine. >> what did you like? >> the part you almost get caught, if you do get caught, see if you can run and get away. >> she describes herself as a cleptomaniac. >> i do it for the thrill of it. i can go into a store, i have money to buy anything i want, i can take it, get away with it, it's a rush. i make out like a bandit. i am pretty good at what i do. >> groth is good at getting caught. she has six theft related prior convictions, as well as convictions for drug possession and assault. >> is there treatment for kleptomaniac? >> i don't know. i should probably check that out. >> how are you going to stop stealing? >> keep my hands in my pocket. that's the only thing i can think of. coming up. >> hey. >> hi. >> how you doing? >> vicki groth gets a visit from her family.
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>> it's weird for me having, like, a family member who i can't, like, trust, you know? >> joe leeja goes to court and gets an earful. >> you shot my son. rot in hell because that's where you deserve to be. and -- >> i was deputy sheriff at kent county for about five years. i worked in training, as a corrections officer. >> he once patrolled these housing units. now he stands accused of a heinous crime. (announcer) scottrade knows our clients trade and invest their own way. with scottrade's smart text, i can quickly understand my charts, and spend more time trading. their quick trade bar lets my account follow me online so i can react in real-time. plus, my local scottrade office is there to help. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) ranked highest in investor satisfaction with self-directed services by j.d. power and associates. where their electricity comes from. they flip the switch-- and the light comes on. it's our job to make sure that it does.
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when you have a corrections officer that the people who are in jail look up to and highly regard and respect how are things going overall for you since you've been here? >> it's been going pretty good. >> that corrections officer is modeling the kind of behavior we desire. stay out of trouble. do what you got to do while you're down here. >> that has a profound impact on how inmates behave. >> deputy gus says he's bought into that philosophy. >> guys, come on. chow time. go eat. i use my personal life experience to school these kids. i talk down, yeah, i am from africa. i took a bag, put it on my shoulder, came here. yeah. why you think you going to trust something from a third world country to work within the security system. it is because of education. back home, in liberia where i am from, i worked ten years as a police officer. i want you guys to take my experience and use
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can better yourself off. >> the deputy is convinced he reached some inmates. daniel has been a work in progress for 15 years now. sutu was assigned to the county's juvenile facility when he first came in as a young teen. >> i've been going to juvenile for a young time. gus used to work there, he had a strong accent, we made fun with him sometimes, mess with him, always in good humor. >> people know you're a good guy. thing is you guys get caught up with with peer pressure. you see, being around the wrong people. you got to make a future for your little daughter and the one on the way, too. so it is like two kids you got going to depend on you as a parent, as a father for tomorrow. now you're languishing in prison. what standard have you set for those kids that they're going to go by? >> doing the same thing that my parents did to me by not being there. i have to change something.
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>> he was recently sentenced to three years for breaking and entering and is awaiting transfer to prison for the third time. >> i got a job at a factory. >> how come you lost that, because of your charge? >> got in a fight, broke my hand. >> getting into fights? >> yeah. >> you got to change, man. you're getting old. there's a chance for anybody, and there's always a way you can improve yourself. he is working toward that, but he needs to make a drastic change. can't be a father to a kid in prison. you can't. you have to create a bond between you and your kids. you have to be a man to support your kids. >> while officials say deputy sutu upholds the values they strive for, steven sutherland did not. 20 years ago he was a kent county sheriff's deputy assigned to managing inmates in this very jail. >> i was a deputy sheriff in kent county about five years. worked in training, as a
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corrections officer, and i was a search and rescue diver. and i was just getting into working as a crisis management officer when i left. still a lot of old hands here that know me. some of the newer ones know who i am, and it's embarrassing. >> good afternoon. >> how you doing, sergeant. >> good, how are you? >> good, sir. >> i did work during the time he was employed. i think there was maybe 20 to 30 deputies get hired at the same time. and within the same group. we are both in that group. it's really unfortunate to see a co-worker on the other side. >> in 20 years that passed since he worked here, sutherland has had numerous criminal convictions and has served time in prison. now he faces especially serious
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charges, possession of child pornography and criminal sexual conduct of a minor, in this case a young boy. >> i am pleading not guilty. i have lots of reasons for that. i didn't do it. >> but this isn't the first time sutherland has been charged with a sex crime against a minor. >> i had a misdemeanor charge 16 years ago for inappropriate touching, a girl, minor. and i pled guilty to that. >> to my knowledge i've never seen anything that he would be capable of charges like he's being charged with right now, so it is pretty shocking. >> deputy perdue also knew sutherland when he worked here. >> you're dealing with a deputy, a professional, somebody you worked with every day, did a good job. >> all right. >> i was a very proactive deputy. but i was also a sincere deputy. if i told an inmate i was going
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to do something, i'd do it. i was fairly strict but fair. i tried to show compassion. i guess i treated the inmates how i would want to be treated. after i worked here for four years or so, i had discovered that i was going to the bar more and more often after work to as we call it debrief. i knew something was wrong. i didn't know what to call it. i had my coffee already. i had started drinking to self-medicate, and i discovered that worked real well. inside a year, i was drinking well over a fifth a day. by the end, i was drinking over a half gallon a day. from there the alcohol just stripped away all of the other emotion and life became unmanageable. >> along with his prior criminal sexual conduct conviction, sutherland had several other convictions, ranging from driving under the influence to home invasion and breaking and entering.
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he says his mugshots tell a story. >> if you look at the very first photo of me, you'll see a man that was very much in control of his life, physically in shape. as you go through to the next booking, alcohol had started to play a bigger factor, facial features have changed, and then you get into the last few years, i think i looked like i aged 20 years, and the fire went out. right now at the stage of my life, i'm almost relieved to be in here right now. coming up. >> there's at least one inmate in here that knows i was a deputy. >> steven sutherland tries to avoid the predators that target ex-cops. later his own actions are called into question. >> two seconds later see his hand come around the shower, i was like this dude is an actual predator. and -- >> i should have killed the lady and her son, her son was 18
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inside kent county jail, joel leija has had more than two years to find ways to pass time. he pled guilty to second degree murder, will be eventually transferred to state prison. >> want to get home young, hope to get at least maybe 20, 18 would be nice. i could do that. i have my mind set on that. but i want to know for sure. once i know for sure, i think i'll be more at ease, more at peace. >> leija's sentencing has been delayed while his co-defendant's trial drags on. he does what he can with what little he has. >> i take the little teeth out of these combs. the seasoning package that comes with seasoning for the noodles. i'll take that, take a staple,
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could easily put it in there, and i could easy put it in my ear. just like that. makes me feel sort of free in a way, even though i am not free. gives me a better feeling about being here. >> leija says one thing he isn't feeling better about is leaving witnesses behind the night he murdered another man. >> some other gang bangers, man. >> according to prosecutors, leija met the man at the home of a mutual female friend to sell him drugs but attempted to rob him instead. >> i should have killed the lady and her son, her son was 18, but he was my age, but i didn't. i just left. so when i got booked, they were
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calling me a ruthless killer and i had no remorse and this. i have no remorse and i was a ruthless killer, i would have killed that bitch and i would have killed her son. >> do you regret not killing them? >> absolutely. i wouldn't be here if nobody pointed me out. >> now housed in a single man segregation cell because of a fight he was involved in, leija has plenty of time to ponder past decisions. >> man, i got some good letters, too. >> steven sutherland, however, is housed in a general population unit where he's around other inmates. and for him, that carries a risk. >> for anyone to know that i used to be a deputy here potentially could be dangerous for me. i'm in a medium, high security area, where the inmates are potentially going to prison for 15 years to life. if it was ever perceived i was part of the system, somebody may
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take advantage of that. >> 20 years earlier sutherland was a kent county sheriff deputy and was assigned to the jail in which he's now housed. he tries to keep that a secret, because when ex-law enforcement officers go to jail, they're often targets for attacks. >> there's at least one inmate in here that knows i was a deputy. we have talked and he understands that needs to be kept private. and i made it clear to him. he was telling another deputy that i used to be a deputy. i said when i told you not to say anything to anybody i meant anybody. because deputies will talk, too. >> to make matters worse, sutherland is charged with criminal sexual conduct against a minor which is another reason other inmates would target him for violence if they found out. >> i try to keep a low profile. i have to be on guard. it could be stressful at times, but i've gotten so used to it,
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it becomes natural for me to put on a different persona, to act out the charade, i guess. >> while some jails immediately isolate people like sutherland in single-person cells where they have virtually no contact with other inmates, that's not the policy at kent county. >> sex offenders are housed on an individual basis, they're interviewed and determined how the classification officers feel how they would do in certain areas, we can put them there. basically they go into general population. there's no specific housing area that segregates them. >> we set expectations to the other inmates out there that you're going to live with this gu and not going to torment him and not make life difficult for that person. if you do, we'll deal with you. and this guy is going to stay and you're the one that's going to end up in segregation. >> and now there has been an
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incident involving sutherland and another inmate. in this case, sutterland is not the victim. coming up, steven sutherland is accused of harassing another inmate in the shower. >> i didn't know what to do. he was like, it's not gay, it's just jailing. >> and vicki's mother on life with a self proclaimed kleptomaniac. >> last year i had already bought an air conditioner for $300 and she turned around and stole that. does it end after you've expanded your business? after your company's gone public? and the capital's been invested? or when your company's bought another? is it over after you've given back? you never stop achieving. that's why, at barclays, our ambition is to always realize yours.
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i'm veronica de la cruz. here's what's happening. authorities identified a gunman who opened fire as carl hall vorson pearson. one student remains hospitalized in critical condition. pearson died of a receive inflicted gunshot wound. prince ston university says more than 90% of eligible students and staff have been vaccinated against a rare strain of meningitis this week. i'm veronica de la cruz. now back to "lockup."
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♪ ♪ inside grand rapids kent county jail, captain demry is nearing the end of a 25 year career. he says much of what influenced him came from his old job. >> this is what i would school for. i have a theology degree and i
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had a couple churches in south dakota when i first got out of college. kind of got involved in the jail business out there. i figured out i was more temperamentally suited for that work. this is my life's work, it was ministry, never has been just a job. it is not natural to keep human beings in cages and not natural to be the human being keeping somebody else in a cage. and there's something about that unnatural environment that causes the people who are the keepers of the cage to take some psychological steps to make that easier on them to a point where you don't really even see them as humans at all. i tried to consciously fight against that tendency. hopefully i modeled that for other people. it is possible to spend your career in corrections and not treat inmates like dirt and not treat these people like trash, but to have compassion and sympathy and understanding for what the families go through.
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>> and families usually go through a lot. >> here to see victoria groth. >> can i check your i.d., please? >> sure. >> my name is carol groth here with my daughter, jessica. we're here to see her first sister, my other daughter, victoria, in jail for the past few months. we come to see her every couple weeks. she seems to be doing okay. >> vicki groth is back for larceny, in this case stealing christmas gifts for the children of a friend. >> previous to this she has stolen from jessica, she has stolen from me, she has stolen from her older brothers also. hopefully being here will have made a difference and keep her out of trouble when she gets out. >> groth describes herself as a kleptomaniac but has labeled herself something else. >> i got this tattoo when i was 17 years old. it says loser. >> do you feel like a loser? >> not at all. >> why did you get loser
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tattooed? >> it is unique. i am famous for it. put it that way. >> i felt sorry, like why would you get that? because you're not a loser. >> obviously no, i am not a loser. i graduated high school with a gpa 3.5. i am not dumb, but still in jail, so -- it was that life, i guess, maybe is what you'd say. growing up, i kbrgot looked at different because my whole family is white and i'm not. i got treated different by my sister's dad because i am half black, they're all white, i wasn't his kid, just dealt with that. used to get teased at school. i cried. i cried a lot. >> hey. >> hi. >> how you doing? >> good. >> that's good. you're looking good. >> thank you. >> yeah. >> i'm tired. i slept all day today. >> what did you do that for? >> i am tired. >> you'll be out soon. you need to get your sleep schedule the right way. >> she came in here, was having a lot of issues with stuff, just
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a lot with family and everybody just not getting along. >> i am hoping to get out monday. >> that would be cool. i have to work monday, though. >> if you ask her to get something out of your purse, she would take something without noticing, you would notice it is in her pocket later. >> she has done it ever since she was this tall. something that started when she was a kid. i got the ceiling painted. >> did you? >> it's done. >> is she painting, too? >> no. she sleeps all day while i paint so she's not in my way. it put me in a bind last year when i already bought an air conditioner for $300 and she turned around and stole that, so i had to use rent money for that month and buy another air conditioner. >> i don't know, it is weird for me, like, having a family member who i can't, like, trust, you know? >> just read a thing in the paper, says just remember when you don't take a shower before you go to bed, everything you
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got in contact with is going to bed with you. the reason we don't talk about her stealing from family through the visit, i don't want her to go back to her cell depressed with nobody to talk to. >> i read 30 cards before i picked that one. >> did you? >> i had to get one that would give you a laugh. >> that did. i started laughing. i brought it to breakfast to show people. >> before she was sentenced this time she called me on the phone and she wanted to know if i would consider her moving back in with us so that she would have a stable place to live. i told her at that time i would have to think about it. i am concerned she will go back to what she was doing before, stealing stuff and then i'll be screwed. love you. >> love you, too. all right. bye. >> yep. bye. that's it. >> i hate where i'm at right now. the choices i made are pretty much stupid choices. everything could have been prevented. if you have choices, nine times out of ten i pick one that's the
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worst. >> why? >> i don't know. if i knew the answer to that i wouldn't do it. >> steven sutherland also acknowledges making bad choices. once a deputy at the kent county jail, he is now an inmate with numerous prior convictions. sutherland is currently charged with criminal sexual conduct with a minor. now he faces new troubles after staff received kites, jail slang for notes written from inmates. >> received two kites from two different inmates regarding inmate sutherland. common subject between the two kites was inmate sutherland was making inappropriate comments to the inmates. >> 20-year-old zack was charged with assault to which he pled not guilty is one of the inmates who reported sutherland. >> i was sitting there in the shower and had my back faced like the other showers and all of a sudden felt somebody hit my back, i turned around, there was a huge thing of soap.
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i was like, what the heck? two seconds later, see his hand come around the shower, threw a bunch of soap at me. at first i was confused. i was like did that really just happen? i didn't know what to do. i was like dude, what the heck is going on. he's like, oh, it's not gay, it's just jailing. >> i said hey, if we all share a shower, we will save water. it's just jailing. and that was what it was. and he wrote a kite saying i made him feel uncomfortable. and i was so angry because they were joking before i got up there, him and another inmate, about oops, he dropped the soap and all that before i even got up there. it's just the horseplay that goes on when you're in an all-male facility in an area like that. >> the second time he came over, he is like hey, we are in the shower together again and all this. then he started talking about the jail wants us to save money, we should shower together and use the same soap and the same
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towel and so at that point i was like you know, this is ridiculous. this dude is an actual predator. >> did you make a comment? >> in jest, we all did. it was going on before i got up there. it is something that the guys, they had -- jail is a lot like a men's locker room, there's comments constantly. >> used to play scrabble all the time. i kind of quit playing scrabble. he would make jokes all the time about other guys. at first it was a joke. then i found out what he was in here for, then i started putting things together. it ain't going. >> it got serious, once it kept going on and on. it is like this dude is serious about what he is saying. >> sutherland has temporarily been moved to a single man cell in another unit until staff can determine if disciplinary action is warranted. >> the policy when we receive a kite like that is to assign the
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investigation to the floor officer where the kite originated, and that's what i did. >> in the meantime, all sutherland can do is wait and try to amuse himself. >> this is what i had up on my cell upstairs. it goes on here like this. it gets boring. you have to have a little fun. coming up. >> i came back from court, i was at dinner, he told me through the door, like, it's over, you know? >> joel leija hears from his co-defendant and the news clears the way for his long awaited sentencing. and -- >> inmate sutherland knows me, i think he was trying to play on that during our hearing, bringing me back to the days when we worked together. tried to work on my feelings. >> an officer hands down a decision on his former colleague and soon after so does the judge.
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even though joel leija pled guilty to second degree murder for shooting a man six times in the face, he's been in a state of limbo at the kent county jail. his judge cannot issue final sentence and send him to prison until his co-defendant's case is resolved. it dragged on for more than two years until now. >> just lost trial yesterday which is sad. real sad. i couldn't enjoy the meal when he came back from court, i was eating dinner, told me through the door, it is over, you know. he is just letting me know. he's at peace, you know, it happened, he's still at peace in his heart. he wants to follow god. people come to jail and they find god. my faith ain't that strong really, it's not that strong.
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i am always going to be a mobster and i don't regret it, i don't, because i had a good time. >> leija is now cleared to be sentenced and it is likely to be soon. steven sutherland, who was a deputy at the jail, awaits, but now he's also facing disciplinary action in the jail for allegedly making inappropriate comments to another male inmate in the showers. sergeant poway who worked with him when he was employed here was assigned to investigate the accusations. they came in the form of two kites or notes from two different inmates. >> inmate sutherland knows me, i think he was trying to play on that during our hearing, calling me by my first name, kind of bringing me back to the days when we worked together, tried to work on my feelings. and i recognized what he was trying to do. >> if an officer was to say that i'm using my connections to get
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special treatment, i would say, you know, look at where i'm at. this is my second time to the hole. hasn't worked out so well if that's the case. >> when i met with inmate sutherland, i did question him on the specifics of his involvement. found consistency in his statements with what was written in kites and found him guilty of a category 2 violation of making inappropriate comments to other inmates. with a 2, there's a 10-day cell restriction where the inmate is moved from the general housing area where he was to our discipline segregation unit. >> i'm angry because they know, all the guys around them, the deputy that did the investigation knows it wasn't true, but the sergeant who likes to write paper got excited about it. he had made up his mind that i
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was guilty before he came down based on words, not intent. and that was my biggest thing, was, you know, when people joke and say things, that doesn't make that intent. >> one week later sutherland would be dealing with something far more serious than horseplay bringing his case to a close. he reached a deal with prosecutors to plead no contest to first degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor. sutherland was sentenced to 9 to 15 years in prison. >> it's tough. you know. it is someone you worked with, hung out with, talked with in the locker room, then years later you're opposite sides of the fence. >> deputy perdue was a rookie at the jail when sutherland worked there as a training officer. >> it ain't going to be easy, not going to happen overnight but, you know, sooner or later
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maybe you get your life back to where it was before all this happened. >> yeah, if not back where it was, at least as i finish out this life with some normalcy. >> yeah, definitely. >> within the next week or so, a transport van will take sutherland to a state prison to serve his time. >> well, there's a saying to do the time, don't let the time do you. it's just a statement of, go with the flow. you know, you read, you play cards. you make the most of it. you're here. deal with it. sometimes that's hard but until you do, you know, life is really tough. and for me with all of the issues that i was having personally, i could be maybe in a different program that would be nicer than this, but this is probably still better than me
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being on my own right now. i hate to say that but -- >> sutherland's upcoming transfer to state prison is fine with at least one inmate. zack. >> honestly, i don't want him to get out in the world again, or even with someone else in the jail. because that just ain't right. obviously i can shower in peace now, not having to worry about him coming up every time i try to shower. coming up -- >> i'm very proud that i came to this jail at a time where the corrections industry in general was moving away from a culture of violence. >> a retiring captain reflects on 25 years of change. and a gang member finds out what his future holds. >> mr. leija, anything further you would like to say before i impose sentence? electricity comes from. they flip the switch-- and the light comes on. it's our job to make sure that it does. using natural gas this power plant
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captain randy demry says he has seen a lot of change over the course of his 25 years at the kent county jail in grand rapids. >> i'm very proud that i came to this jail at a time where the corrections industry in general but even this jail in particular was moving away from a culture of violence and a culture that demeaned the inmate population, toward a culture that treats everybody with dignity and respect and humanely, and understanding that the inmates have their own set of problems that they present us with, but they're all humans and they all need to be cared for as human beings. >> jail officials say one way they do that is to be responsive to inmate reports of threats or harassment. >> zack is one of the inmates who wrote one of the kites alleging issues with inmate sutherland. he's still in the same housing unit as he was. just wanted to let him know that we're there if he has any questions or any other issues.
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just a wellbeing check just to make sure he's okay. hey. >> how you doing. >> good. just want to make sure you're doing okay. are you having any other issues? >> no. it's been quiet. yeah, yeah, a good pod. >> as far as how it was handled, did we handle it quick enough for you? >> yeah. i think an hour, hour and a half after i wrote the kite he was out of here. so i was pretty surprised how fast. >> the kite that you wrote got our attention immediately, with the new prea standards that the correction facilities have to abide by, any suggestions of inappropriate conduct we look at real serious. and that's the main reason why we took action as quick as we did and looked into it, did an investigation. interviewed you at least once or twice. okay, thank you very much, guys. >> thanks. >> a different sort of drama now plays out for joe leija.
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>> i'm going to get sentenced today. i'm ready to get it over with. i don't have to apologize to the victim's family, but i'm going to. i think it looks better, shows i am sorry. >> move it, everybody has to fit in there. >> make me realize the damage i have done to this family. i have a lot of regrets. this is one of the biggest ones i have is to kill somebody, you know. i'm going to have a lot of family in the courtroom. my parents are going to be there, my mom, my dad. my aunt, my uncle, my brothers and sisters. it makes it way easier for me. >> as the proceedings get under way, the victim's mother takes the podium and reads her statement to the court. >> i still don't understand why you had to pump six bullets into my son. it just goes to show what a cold-blooded killer you really are. it seems to me taking a life came way too easy for you. now i wonder how many other lives you may have taken with no remorse.
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you didn't just shoot a person, you shot my son. you took a very big part of our lives away and that piece of the puzzle will always be missing. i hope you rot in prison for the rest of your life. even that will be too good for you. brad didn't deserve to die the way he did. he died a very violent and lonely death. no one should have to die that way. rot in hell, mr. leija, that's exactly where you deserve to be. you need to be off the streets so you can't hurt anybody else. i pray the court agrees with me and you get life in prison. >> when the victim's mother is finished with her statement, leija has an opportunity to read his apology. >> mr. leija, anything further you'd like to say before i impose sentence? >> no, your honor. >> so mr. leija, mandatorily on felony firearm, it's the sentence of this court that you be committed for two years to the michigan department of corrections. consecutive to that on succeed degree murder, it's the sentence of this court, mr. leija, that
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you be committed to the michigan department of corrections for a term of not less than 22, no more than 75 years. i'll advise you, mr. leija, this is a final sentence of judgment of the court. you are entitled to file application for leave to appeal. >> love you, mama. >> i was working on an apology, but i didn't appreciate what she said. i understand she wrote it to me, okay. but it's different when you read it out loud in front of all those people. i'm definitely not giving you an apology now because you was out of line when you said that. i understand you want to express yourself, that's your right. i'm not going to tell you sorry though. i was planning on it. that ain't going to happen no more.
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