tv All In With Chris Hayes MSNBC December 19, 2013 12:00am-1:01am PST
center and the left to get control of our garment. firm rational control of our budget, the debt, the health care system, of course. less fear will mean less anger, less right wing nuttiness. and this is "hardball" right now, and thank you for joining us, chris hayes with "all in" starts right now. good evening from our nation's capital, i'm chris hayes, well, there will be no holiday cheer for america's long-term unemployed, it seems. tonight, the senate seems poised to go home for the holiday without extending benefits for 1.3 million americans depending on the checks, checks which will run out december 28th. the white house, along with those in both chambers didn't push, but in the end they were cut out. harry reid promised to push for an extension when the senate
convenes after the new year, but no plan seems forthcoming. >> i do support unemployment benefits for the weeks that they're paid for. if you do extend this, you're hurting the people. you're causing them to become part of this group in our economy. >> the congressional budget office says that extending it would grow the economy by 2.1% and add 200,000 jobs, it also keeps thousands of americans out of poverty. it has been estimated that 1.7 million people were kept out of poverty through unemployment insurance last year, including 500,000 children. yet due to congress's failure to extend the insurance, 1.3 million americans are slated to lose benefits just three days after christmas, at a time when the long-term unemployment rate remains at near record-highs. the cost of extending the
benefits, just a quarter of what many of america's wealthiest families have done, by exploiting a single tax loophole, we'll talk more about that. joining me now, columnist at the washington post, ezra klein, great to have you here. this is outrageous, indefensible that we're doing this. >> so we're cutting the deficit by $20 billion, so -- it is an insane thing where washington is resigned to an unemployment crisis, resigned to letting millions of people go into the rolls of the permanently unemployed. one thing i found about that, aside from the callousness, it is like you're doing them a disservice if they have enough money to feed their family for the next month, it would be a spiritual hollowness, to qualify for unemployment you have to be
looking for work. the benefits are what would keep people in the work force instead of dropping out. >> just to be clear, if you qualify for unemployment insurance you have to show that you're looking for work. you have to be pursuing actively. and right now it is not there are jobs falling off job trees as we like to hear. >> the program, that is really the core here. so the argument that rand paul is gesturing towards, i think is what unemployment benefits do is they make it so you don't have to get a job because you're getting this great paycheck from the federal government because you're not covering any kind of life that any of us would think is comfortable. but what they do in a period is you have three people looking for a job, unemployment is so regionally distributed, you have many more than three people looking for a job, five people, six people, eight people, we're helping people at a time when we can't find jobs, this is when
folks are not just wanting not to work for the pay, this is a time when washington and congress helped crash the economy through tons of folks out of work. and we're saying at this point, you know what? this is your fault again. >> you have written a lot about the political challenge of expanding health insurance america. and often it is in the case that uninsured are not necessarily a potent constituency. they're not necessarily organized. we're seeing a problem with the unemployed are just a completely powerless constituent. it generally seems like no one in washington, aside from a core group of democrats, genuinely cares about their plight. >> there are a lot of folks who care and who want to do something, but because they can't get it through congress or get it through the regulatory structure, they're moving on to think about other big important
issues. but what it means for the unemployed, at this point, even the people who want to help them they don't have the stomach for it. the fight has gone on too long, that is when you get not just long-term unemployment, but something where people become -- because they end up out of the work force for so long, they lose skills and social attachments. >> i came back to a window's computer, the working environment when i was hired at msnbc after many, many years away from it. i mean, this is a small example, but let's say you work in i.t., or manufacturing, or hotels where there is new logistical methods to get things where they need to go. all of this changes quickly, if you're outside the work force, your skills, to interface with that degree -- >> but the way it works, you're unemployed because you're unemployed. when an employer looks at the
study, looks at the job application and sees you have been out of work for eight months or two years, they just pass you over, they don't even call you. they figure there must be a reason, somebody else who has not been unemployed, they go to them. >> i want to bring in our senior director for naacp, and communications director for the other 98%, nonprofit group of activists. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> i want to talk about a piece that ezra wrote, a defining challenge of our time, before we get to that there is another big bit of news for the unemployed today, and for all the american economy, which is the federal reserve says they're going to pare back the boosts to the economy, basically the landscape we have been in year, cuts to workers, slashes to budgets, all the pushing, pushing, downward pressure.
the only thing that has been lifting up the economy has been the federal reserve. today they announced we're going to start stopping to do that. what does it mean, alexis? >> well, it means we won't have as much stimulus through the economy, i'm skeptical that that has actually been a benefit to americans because that sort of monetary policy has really enriched wall street. but i think it removes one tool from the tool set. but i'm concerned, we're fighting a war of messaging, we see the republicans cutting so hard on insurance. pretty soon we'll vote on whether the tax extenders include things like research and development. i know insurance is thrown out. i'm concerned that people -- kind of like what ezra is saying, not only should we cut unemployment insurance, we should be growing it.
>> we see on social security, a small caucus of progressive centers talk about expanding benefits. but do you see this developing in washington? >> we continue with austerity for the working class, the middle class and we'll allow the corporations on wall street to continue to boom and think that is positive, because that is economic growth. as long as the economy is growing, quote unquote, no matter how the people are doing, those that are employed or in the labor market, things seem to be okay. and it is acceptable to forget the fight. and for us at naacp, we see it as a very dire fight, because the american middle class is being dismembered in some ways. >> and i think that is the way the unemployment equality comes in, if we reduce that employment across the board, most of these
jobs are going to minimum wage, $7.25 an hour, will that really help people? we have this huge food fight regarding that is not enough to live on. >> we talk about income inequality, and i think you see it crest in such things as occupy wall street, but i think the confluence, we're seeing growth come back, okay, well, the economy is actually growing relatively well. wall street is doing remarkably well. but there is this problem, which is the gains are not being distributed at all. and you had a response saying growth is not producing enough jobs, this is an urgent problem, what can you think of as a defining challenge of our time? >> full employment. there is a very good book, on this point that doesn't just
mean more people with jobs. it means you get to the point where you add to the demand in the economy, not creating another job but creating inflation. >> you're so far from that. >> and what is important is thinking about getting to tight labor market. people lose when you go to the full unemployment equilibrium. we have a political conversation with things on how strong the dollar will be, and how inflation will be, heavily decided on the winners in the economy. the important thing about getting not just jobs back but to a tight labor market, that is the moment at which workers have power again. and in another wave, restating the unemployment argument. and there is an enormous amount of political power and workers have lost it. what worries me about the way the inequality gets talked about, you do need to bring down the gap to the top 1%. if you just did that and didn't
take care of the lack of power among workers you actually would not have solved the core problem here. >> i would argue, most people who fight for the equality agenda, they're fighting to make sure workers are empowered, the progressive forces are on the same side. i think you see that the progressive forces were fighting for increased minimum wage across the country. they're also fighting for greater job opportunities and more jobs -- >> i think the big thing that we all agree on and the thing i want to direct to any member of congress who happens to be looking right now, and anyone at the white house, there is a human tragedy, a disaster, an absolute tragedy, the forest fire that is burning down people's lives and job skill. there is no reason for it. it is cruel, sadistic, economic -- economically stupid, the full crisis is getting equal employment.
it doesn't solve the structural problem, if you go back to the '90s, you saw that. workers had a lot of bargaining power in that clinton boom, right? we saw wages go up in that time frame, but as soon as the economy went up, it got weaker, there was no structural property. >> we're seeing the unions organizing around the issues. they have been very successful, painting the pictures about look, mcdonald's is receiving over a billion in subsidies because the workers don't get paid enough to be on public assistance. but i think we talked about tools and how the fed is one of the places we could make a difference, president obama could do something for 2 million federal contract workers who work at the smithsonian who are making minimum wage, you could do an executive order for those 2 million federal employees and give them a raise, and he has not. that is something that has not gone through congress. i totally agree with you, it is
horrible, we need to do something. i would like to see more than a speech out of the obama administration, i would like to see action. >> and there is also something that got huge amount of attention, a whole bunch of people writing about it. one of the things i thought, you made the interesting points, in some ways inequality and attacking it is more appealing and beneficial than the unemployment crisis, there is more talk about that. it is right on the merits, but it has the kind of political sexiness that hey, millions are out of work, what are we going to do about it? >> inequality is a huge problem, these are problems that connect to the american story and what we find offensive. politicians like to talk about it. paul ryan gives speeches.
>> and cruz was talking about inequality. >> but the unemployed as you said earlier they're not a politically powerful group and don't affect even morally, even intuitionally, there is an easy politics towards talking about problems that are sort of long-term, whereas a lot of democrats talk about further stimulus that is counterproductive. but the way we think about structuring our problems, will be more important on what actions can be taken. >> what action can be taken is action across the country, people are looking for work, change can happen. it won't get through congress, people are looking at state legislators there was the remarkable move for minimum wage at seatac, and they're talking about doing something similar in seattle. and we're talking about grass roots fights. >> the problem is full
employment and the kind of policies we need to get there. the place that it comes most effectively from is congress, and the federal reserve. alexis goldstein, from the other 98%, thank you very much. coming up, the big legislative fight of 2014. the american people believe that if somebody works for 40 hours they shouldn't be labelled as being poor. they should be able to support themselves and their family. but that is the way it is now. we need to raise the minimum wage and there will be a sustained effort to do that when we come back. i'll talk to the u.s. secretary of labor, thomas perez, about the fight ahead. that is next.
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i don't think the minimum wage law works, we all support, i certainly do, having more taxpayers, more people being employed. i want people making more than nine dollars, the problem is if you can't do that by mandating it in the minimum wage laws. that never worked to help the poor attain prosperity. >> not really true, the minimum wage law went to $11.50 yesterday, which is set to go into effect 2015. d.c. joins new jersey and the seatac area, joining seattle-tacoma airport, joining with other states raising the minimum wage. it will be challenged in court, with the ruling being the first of the year. still it comes in the absence of federal action, the president has been pushing hard for a minimum wage increase. >> it is well past the time to raise the minimum wage that was below where it was when harry truman was in office.
>> according to the national employment law project, lower wage jobs made up 21% of recession losses, making up almost 60% of recovery growth. think about that for a second. what we've seen now is worker strikes. the walmart workers grow from just a few cities to hundreds across the country, all of this is setting the stage for the minimum wage and the fight to raise wages more broadly at the bottom of the wage scale, to be one of the definitive battles of 2014, joining me now, thomas perez. >> great to be here, chris. >> can you get the minimum wage done, and does it really have an effect when we have a smaller share of workers working for the minimum wage than we have had in a fair amount of time? >> the first question, i think the answer is yes. you look at the history, 2008, the minimum wage was increased
under president bush, 2007 or 2008. i was working for senator kennedy in 1996. i believe the speaker of the house was newt gingrich. the minimum wage was increased then, one of my predecessors, elizabeth dole, indicated that one of her proudest accomplishments was securing the passage of the minimum wage. so i think it can be done. it enjoyed rich bipartisan history. >> a lot of things that enjoyed rich bipartisan history is food stamps, minimum wage, i think we've seen it become undone. >> i think you have seen the brush fire is turning into a prairie fire, into a wild fire about fairness. people understand that nobody who works a full-time job should have to live in poverty. and that is what we see in america. >> the president could take unilateral action on that front. the members of the congress and the progressive caucus are calling for him to issue an executive order that would raise the wages of people that were
working in low-wage work for federal contractors. why hasn't the president done that? >> well, the president has heard those calls from people. and the president wants to work with congress on a bipartisan basis to enact the increase in the minimum wage. and we hope he will do that. but the president has shown through past actions if congress doesn't act then he needs to look at what can be done. so we'll continue to work on a bipartisan basis. i think the minimum wage can be increased. i know it must be increased. it is a moral imperative, and really an economic imperative. if we want to grow the economy, the way to do that is put money in people's pockets. and one way is to increase the minimum wage. >> what do you make of the striking fast food workers across the country, as your position as labor secretary, what is your reaction? >> well, it breaks my heart, one person told me i'm a second
generation fast food worker, i don't want there to be a third generation. one person told me i was sick, i can't go to work. my employer told me if i don't come up with a doctor's note, i'll be fired. how can you get a doctor's note if you don't have access to the doctor. you listen to the stories and hear the data, productivity has increased 90% since 1979, yet the wage has grown 3 or 2%. as productivity increases that should be shared, as well. and so increasing in minimum wage to $10.10 for a family of four would put them if you take into account the earned income tax credit would put them just above the poverty line. >> there is a broader problem here, aside from the problem with the slack recession, and the growing inequality. there is a lack of labor power.
it has created, at a time when there was a huge federal push, to make sure that workers had concerted power in the face of a very disempowering economy. there are a lot of people that feel that process is broken, people in the health care field that are not even covered by the old legislation that was passed, that created the department of labor. is there something that is fundamentally broken about our labor laws that has disempowered the american worker? >> well, i actually think there is quite a bit of power that the organization has, let me give you one quick example. we recently issued a resolution relating to home health workers. 90% of the home health workers are women. 50% of color, 40% are on food stamps. and because of the loophole in the law they were treated as -- like my daughter, the
baby-sitter, and they were not entitled to the protections on the minimum wage and the labor protections of the fair labor standards act. we fixed that. and enacted a legislation with the 1.4 home health care workers getting the protection. and we're taking a regulatory approach to the issues. there was a conference at the white house recently, shedding the light on the remarkably promising labor management partnerships across america. i have seen them, i've been to new york city, watched sciu working together with the health care industry to make sure the work force is trained and that they receive a fair wage. you go to las vegas, you see the culinary industry out there. a wonderful management/union partnership. i was in kentucky, one of the most productive plants in america. they had 4400 workers counting right now, not including their supply chain.
a wonderful partnership between the uaw and ford. and manufacturing is coming back. and so there are many examples of partnerships where labor and management are recognizing we don't fight yesterday's battles. we need to tackle tomorrow's challenges together. >> and there are a lot of fights left. thank you so much. coming up, america's richest people have found a way to get even richer and pass it on. i'll explain next.
if you're among the nearest and dearest that j.p. morgan had to chase, you were recently graced with this holiday card in your mail box, showing the first family of finance having a great time, hitting tennis balls inside what seems to be their home, an image that says hey, we're so rich we can destroy our own stuff with a smile. if you think the diamond family has lost perspective don't worry, the message on the back of the card says "all you need is love" at least they were diplomatic enough not to put, let them eat cake. and the royal family whose goal of the american family has been made equal regarding the inheritance attack, and the shocking admission that keeps tax revenue out of the government and in the hands of some of america's richest families, families who avoid inheritance taxes by quickly
moving the assets in and out of trust. mark zuckerberg and goldman sachs representative used the tax loopholes, the head of walmart's enterprising lawyer first discovered this loophole, the lawyer admitted finally that we can't let this keep going if we're going to have a sound system. perhaps the most aggressive is this guy. >> shelden addelson and his wife donated a staggering $10 million to the pro-romney super pac, restore our future. they're worth a cool $25 million. >> the 85-year-old anti-union casino mogul billionaire, who reportedly put $150 million into the campaign.
he has given at least $7.9 billion to the heirs, while legally avoiding $2.8 billion in u.s. gift taxes since just 2010. that is right, he used this loophole, first founded by the walton family, to keep $2.8 billion from the federal government alone. that is more than enough to keep the unemployment benefits in place another month to get through the holidays for 1.3 million americans, instead, the money is simply being handed over to people who, well, let's be honest, in no way need it. as warren buffet said, that is no way to run a country. >> i don't recall think that has a society we want to confer blessings on generation after generation who contribute nothing to society, simply because somebody in the far distant past happened to amass a great amount of wealth.
>> so as one of the most unproductive congress wraps up here, let's take a look at what was supposed to bring them together. as the scare regarding unemployment insurance, they look to sustain the austerity, if putting pressure on the middle class, make no mistake, america, you are the one taking the tennis ball to the face. i was having trouble
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office, steve stockman, america's wackiest congressman, steve stockman who tweeted if babies had guns, they wouldn't be aborted. congressman stockman distributed a book to everybody in the house. he recently declared himself a candidate against the republican, john cornyn, but those have to make john cornyn feel pretty good, despite stockman's let's say vocal support of gun rights. it is just another round of what is shaking up to be the no holds barred competition within the republican party to get as far right as possible in order to win the affection of a base that demands no less. in north carolina, the frontrunner to take on democratic senator kay hagan,
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the fact of the matter is, washington is not going to elect the next senator of wyoming, the people of wyoming will elect the next senator. mike has a record if you go back and review his finances, of getting about 84% of his funds from the washington-based pac, that is more than from either party. he doesn't get much from
wyoming, he got 13% of his from wyoming, she out-raised him in the first quarter. it is a great campaign, she is going full speed. she is going to win. >> that is former vice president dick cheney, talking about a little grass roots insurgent campaign in the great state of wyoming, talking about his daughter. and joining me now, communications director. so it is already a very entertaining crowded senatorial field in 2014. i remember looking at the election nights in 2012 and watching you know, indiana, which should have been in the republican hands, go out of the republican hands, and missouri, which should have been out of their hands and basically hearing mitch mcconnell from all the way in kentucky to the studio in new york, throwing his bourbon against the wall.
he has been actually screwed twice in terms of the senate. to look at his campaign twice, he is behind the majority leader's -- >> he was an intern. >> he has all of these henry clay pictures in his office. he wants the job back, you see john boehner, as well, the pushback to get back to winning. >> we've seen an interesting turning of the screws after the shutdown, particularly in this area, boehner and mcconnell, the heritage action, the sort of outside groups that have been calling the shots but don't seem to be calling the shots after the shutdown as much. >> no, that is right, partly because they don't have options left. they can't take boehner out, think can't go for that. mcconnell is not going to lose
his majority spot in between now and then. the republican's strategy seems to be just shut up. don't get in our own way, don't throw up on ourselves. >> you know, i think i understand the wisdom of this, he is -- make a television show every day and you sit there you know, and you think some plutocrat who is exploiting the tax loophole, you want to do a segment about them, they don't go around talking to cameras for a good reason. the todd akins, the christine o'donnells, they can't help but talk. >> but the plutocrat is not trying to get americans to vote for him. and politicians, assuming they should be selling some sort of agenda for the future talking to voters about their lives, understanding their day to days. there is a reason why they open
their mouths, they need votes. so if we take as a given that they're going to have to speak then all we can do is listen to their words. and the reason why indiana and missouri went the way they did in 2012 was because they occupied their mouth on women's issues. in 2014, you have mitch mcconnell running against a really strong woman. >> i am fascinated by the politics -- >> i feel bad -- >> don't feel bad, he is a big boy. it has been stolen from his hands twice. second of all, he has a real challenger, tell me about allison -- >> she won statewide office by a big margin, she is very young, she is 34. >> my age. >> right. >> and she presents the most compelling contrast with mitch mcconnell who is literally everything that is wrong with staid washington.
he is the guardian of grid lock, and she is absolutely the face of change. but she is kentucky through and through. because this is not somebody from kentucky who is going to get tripped up by washington republicans. >> part of the problem that mitch mcconnell is having, you're in front of the cameras talking about the process, harry reid became very unpopular in nevada and still pulled it out. there is a third element of the kentucky race i want to talk about, how it is playing out in the kentucky race and the budget battle. we'll talk about it right after this break.
we're back and i'm here with jeff mcintosh, and ryan grim, the third thing that makes the kentucky race fascinating, with mitch mcconnell, seeking re-election, he has a very strong young democratic woman candidate to his left. is the fact that it is the one state, not the one state, but one of the states where obamacare is working its best. this is the best twist to me that you know, the only state in the south that is both expanding medicaid, setting up their own exchange, is kicking butt doing it. and you guys at "huffington post," did this story about before he became a pseudo kind of candidate, it is going to be hard to bring back obamacare if obamacare is working for kentucky. >> he used to call himself a progressive back in the '60s. he was pro civil rights, this is
a man who has been a different vehicle for the wins he has been through. when he has run the last couple of times, the ads that he has run has been targeted in those areas is, i brought you x project. looking at the camera. remember that? that was me, going to get more. he was one of the fiercest fighters against the ban on earmarks, so he knows how important it is to deliver benefits to people. and now that kentucky is delivering health care to people when he has been the lead opponent of this is just killing him. now, what helps him is that a lot of these white collar poor people were actually still democrats in kentucky. but a lot of them have become republicans. you will see some of them drift back, he could be in serious trouble. >> the question is whether it is obamacare, this sort of iconic quote, which president obama reported, somebody saying this is a great deal, much better
than obamacare. do you think -- how does the right wing primary challenge for matt bennett to his right, affect his behavior and the deals he is onto. you say he is spoiling for a fight. >> i think he is spoiling for a debt limit fight, i think mcconnell knows there is some sort of demand. i think he knows that he will win in the primary. when it comes to obamacare, he may know it has some success in the state, but his whole party, all the senate candidates are running in 2014. so don't expect him to walk away from that message. >> he just doesn't seem to have much to sell, which i why i think we see the campaign lurching all over the place, he seems to be spacing these together. >> obviously, he is a --
>> we have been told that he is a bare knuckles brawler, and we should all be afraid. >> the first thing he did was release a web video making fun of her name, what rhymes with grime? >> this texas primary, steve stockman is a curiosity. i still am sort of 90% sure that he exists. 10% of me thinks that maybe andy kaufman is back from the grave -- >> ted cruz is vice chair of the nrc. a guy who i would say -- not to overstate the case, a unanimous laughing stock. >> stockman may not be real, but the culture that created him is real. >> no, stockman is real, but this is the guy who in kentucky
got rand paul, who endorsed mcconnell, he provides him cover, you would expect the same endorsement from him. >> i think cruz is looking ahead to 2016. you're right, mcconnell, this is something that saves him in that primary. mcconnell fought against him in 2010. mcconnell hires jesse betten to run his own election campaign. >> let's just show the stockman tweet as a sample of what his cornyn campaign looks like. this is him taking off on the pajama boy. excellent work there. wyoming is a place where there is no ideological content to the battle. there is just the sort of bald-faced grab for power that i can remember in recent history. >> it is interesting, liz cheney
is trying to make it ideological, but everything she stands for, the tea party is against, she is washington, she is privileged. she has promoted democracy in the middle east. she has sent actual taxpayer dollars to egypt when she was in the state department. her husband is this perpetual insider who went out and used money from corporations to go out and build a $2 million home in jackson hole. >> also, she had to plead guilty to lying on her fishing license, that she was in wyoming, which was by far the best. you're telling me that georgia is sort of the sleeper rate. that is also -- a very, very ideologically zealist. >> main stream georgia republican, we have on the
democratic side, this fantastic woman, michelle nun, who runs the charity that deals with volunteerism across the country. >> deeply polarize. >> she is the daughter of sam nun, whose name carries a lot of weight there. if todd aiken were there, phil gingri, he has seen similar things in his own practice, and karen handler who had to step down from susan g. komen. >> and jack kingston. >> and that primary as an open one will be particularly brutal. you have a bunch of incumbents. we didn't even get to lindsey graham, that is a whole other world in south carolina, and the battle to stake on kay hagan.
ryan grim from "the huffington post." thank you, it was fun. that is it for "all in," and rachel maddow is next, with steve kornacki filling in. >> good evening, i'm steve kornacki, rachel has the night off. there is no need to adjust your television, but the united states congress tonight has actually done something. on this vote, the yeas are 64, the nays are 36. the motion to concur in the house amendment to the senate amendment to house hj res 59 is agreed to. >> earlier tonight, the united states had passed that mouthful of senate jargon, otherwise known as a budget.