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republican resistance. forcing democrats to find a way to pay for that assistance for the first time in years. comparing food stamps to slavery is not politically expedient. according to a ppp poll released today, if the north carolina senate election was held today, he would beat kay hagan 43 to 41. that's all. "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. >> i am the leader of this state and its people. the state of our state is good and it is getting better. did i say on topic? are you stupid? on topic.
on topic. the last week has certainly tested this administration. i don't know whether this was a traffic study that then morphed into a political vendetta. mistakes were clearly made. i worked the cones actually. we'll cooperate with all appropriate inquiries to ensure that this breach of trust does not happen again. >> on the advice of my counsel, i assert my right to remain silent. >> on the advice of counsel, i assert my rights to remain silent. >> i haven't had contact with david wildstein in a long time since the election. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching.
i don't know about you, but i'm totally entertained by this guy, chris christie. totally entertained by him. did he say everything in new jersey is good? i doubt it. let's see. lives were put at risk. folks in harms way. schedules screwed up. laws were broken and he says there were a few mistakes made. come on, governor. let's cut to the chase. you are right now in the state of denial. chris christie put all the icing on the cake today. just wrapped up his fourth state of the union address. he doesn't mention scandals in his annual speech, but the heat is so hot right now christie just had to do bridge gate right off the top. it was the first topic he mentioned in his address today. >> now the last week has certainly tested this
administration. mistakes were clearly made and as a result, we let down the people we're entrusted to serve. i know our citizens deserve better, much better. now i'm the governor, and i'm ultimately responsible for all that happens on my watch, both good and bad. >> we let down the people. let's get some clarity here. the governor certainly isn't talking about the lawmakers he was addressing today, was he? we as in my administration. we as in my office. my executive staff did everything i didn't know anything about. when he said, we, i thought is he including the lawmakers here? we'll find out. he went on to say his administration will cooperate
fully with investigations. >> we'll cooperate with all appropriate inquiries to ensure this breach of trust does not happen again, but i also want to ensure the people of new jersey today that what has occurred does not define us or our state. this administration and this legislature will not allow the work that needs to be done to improve the people's lives in new jersey to be delayed for any reason. >> you bet. the work that needs to be done to improve the lives of the noek fo -- folks of new jersey, he declined to raise the minimum wage in new jersey. he's now making the case that 7.8% unemployment is good?
he pwas quick to mention the ne jersey 7.8% unemployment rate. he made it sound like it was something good. that they've really accomplished something. that's above the national rate. it's not a great number if you're sitting at 7.8%. we need to point out republicans hammer the president every time there is a jobs report. the current national rate is 6.7%. it still draws waves of criticism from republicans, but christie's your guy. he mentioned 48 straight months of private sector job growth. wait to go. nationally we've seen 46 straight months of private sector job growth. still not good enough to impress the republicans. the governor said that he has
cut teacher tenure. you don't know what's going to happen to your tenure once you've paid the price. then there's that word, pension reform. that's a cut. in lowering property taxes, the governor almost broke his arm patti inting himself on the bac talking about how he's lowered property tax by 33%. it had the highest property tax rate in the nation. forgot to point that out, governor, didn't you? i know you have to raise money in florida. that's where your focus is. meanwhile there is new proof out today that chris christie may not be the honest broker that he likes to point himself out to be. the governor says he had no
contact with david wildstein in a long time. wildstein was christie's port authority man. >> i have had no contact with david wildstein in a long time. a long time. well before the election. you know, i could probably count on hand the number of conversations i've had with david since he worked at the port authority. i did not interact with david. we didn't have that kind of relationship. >> just didn't have that kind of relationship. you be the judge. "the wall street journal" ran a story today. it published a picture that
proves christie misleading the public. keep in mind, this picture right here was taken on september 11th 2013, the third day of the closure fiasco. there's the governor and david wildstein. look how enthusiastic he is. i have something to tell you. christie's office responded to this picture today in all fairness saying, of course governor christie attended the september 11th ceremony. he had numerous interactions with public officials that morning. let's go back to the picture. i like this picture. everybody is upbeat. does he look like the guy who wants to keep something away from governor christie?
a picture tells a thousand words. going after workers, high property tax rates, the attack on education, denying people who work hard a raise of the minimum wage, this is where christie is. i don't think he has a very good report card, but i think he's the magic man. he seems to be able to turn this whole thing around. but basically, i believe this man is in a state of denial about how bad things are in new jersey. tonight's question -- do you think chris christie will survive this scandal? text a for yes. text b for no. you can always go to our blog. just remember conservatives, every time you think chris christie is getting her done with the economy, just remember his unemployment rate is higher
than the national average and president obama has had no help from the republicans to turn that number around. christie has had a lot of help from the democrats in new jersey. let me bring in the congressman from new jersey. >> how are you today? >> good, sir. want your reaction to the governor's remarks at the state of the state address today. >> i listened very carefully and the last speech he made last week, he made himself the victim. today he made all of us the victim in new jersey. we're all in the same boat and that's it. he's missing the whole point here. this is his administration. these are republican sycophants who are falling one by one and there's no question in my mind we had some democratic enablers to create this culture, we can do anything. the distraction away from the main situation, the people of ft. lee and the surrounding
communities that got shafted those four days. that should be on the tips of our tongues every time we open our mouths. there's obviously more going to unfold. >> are you satisfied with the characterization that mistakes were made? >> no. >> it doesn't seem the governor understands the severity of this. >> this was conscious. it was planned. there's no question in my mind this was thought of before september. this was into august. the e-mails reflect that. so don't tell me that nobody knew this at this time. i think, ed, we cannot get caught up with the issue when did the governor know it and at what time did he know.
the first issue is the people of ft. lee. who pulled the switch? >> governor christie says he hasn't spoken to, quote, david wildstein in a long time. >> some of my buddies and my friends on the democratic side are trying to make this a political issue. democrats are not going to come out of this thing ahead because some of us enabled him. republicans are not going to come out ahead obviously. this is sticking to the facts and trying to figure out what really happened. >> what democrats failed? >> beginning four years ago they failed. there's a difference between bipartisanship and stroking the
other person to get what you want even though other people are going to get shafted in the process. that's what happened in this situation. many of the mayors are finally speaking out about what happened to them. if you can get my vote and my endorsement and you can get me to jump parties, democrat/republican is immaterial. in order to support you, that tells me you're creating a culture that you'll pass it off as bipartisanship. a lot of this was not bipartisanship. it was back scratching at its worst. that's why none of us come out of this looking good. >> one final question. >> yes, sir. >> are you concerned about the potential misuse of emergency funds? there was a big fight over federal help to all of the states. >> you're darn right i am. >> characterize it for us. >> we're about to get to the next phase and the next amount of dollars. >> you think it was inappropriate for the governor to be in those commercials?
>> well, i'll tell you what. i read the regulations. there's nothing. he hasn't broken any laws. he got a waiver from the democratic administration in washington. i want to stick to the issues that exist right now. don't be distracted, ed. i'm warning you. >> it is an investigation. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> appreciate it. >> i want to turn to valerie huddle. your response to the state of the state. >> he said he would cooperate with all inquiries. that's a step in the right
direction. quite frankly, this state of the state address he was a little more humble. i don't see the anger still with him. mistakes were made. he doesn't seem angry about it. i think whether he's still in the denial stage, but i want to see that anger stage. i believe we need to get to the bottom of it. more faces are coming out of the woodwork of those people who are involved. >> your constituents. characterize their attitude on this? >> first of all, they all feel that lives were put in danger. there was a misuse of public trust. what we're hearing -- we've
heard people's lives were in danger. emts couldn't get to places. it is not just ft. lee. every town was hampered by traffic jams. what i'm hearing, people think there's more to the story when we don't get answers and we continue to raise these questions. it really raises the height of suspicion. >> do you think the governor went far enough today? i know he held a press conference last week. but today he said there were mistakes and went on. >> he did not want to be distracted by this. he apologized in the beginning. he said he will cooperate and went right on to his policies. when we talk about the math of distraction, he certainly wants to focus on policy, which of course we need to do for this state. on the other hand, we need to get this committee organized and we need to get the answers to
these questions, and i think there's more to come. >> to your knowledge, subpoenas tomorrow will be coming out? >> on thursday we will have legal counsel advising us. the committee is in formation. i am a member of that committee. it will be a bipartisan committee. it's what we're calling for. hopefully we'll get the facts and the answers that people deserve. >> all right. i appreciate your time tonight. thanks so much. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. we always want to know what you think. love your twitter activity on the show. coming up, getting mitty with it. mitt romney let loose at a conference for mormons. stay with us. we're right back.
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grizzly gift behind. >> you hear that, ed? bears. the number two trender, just dance. mitt romney busts a move. >> i'm with it. i'm hip. and today's top trender, health scare. >> health and human services releasing data of who signed up for health insurance so far and it's not the young and the healthy. just 24% of americans who signed up are between the ages of 18 and 34. >> the law is not living up to the promise made by its supporters. >> that number of 24% is a disaster. it's a financial disaster. >> these numbers are terrible. >> the administration is desperate to put out good information. >> 24% of the enrolies are far
are between the ages of 18 and 24. not what they wanted. >> it's going to cost a lot more than it's going to benefit people. >> joining us tonight, mr. potter. always a pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you, ed. >> they think 24% is a terrible number, but they think it is okay for one in four corporations in this country to park their money offshore. that's not a problem. that just amazing me. to health care, what do you make of the numbers? i say we're still early in the game. kids sleep late on saturday morning. that's just the way the world turns. your thoughts on the numbers at this point? >> it's the way the world turns.
i'm not a bit surprised. those who are most mote viivate sign up first are those who have not been able to get insurance because of their health or gender or age. they've been discriminated by the insurance industry and have not been able to get coverage until now. of course, these are the people who are most eager to make that purchase. you're right. younger people actually have been signing up. actually more than i thought they would. we're still in the early stages of this. we're not close to the end of open enrollment. >> but we're in the millions. in the big picture, i think it is a pretty good recovery. >> it is. that doesn't count the millions who i think also are going to be signing up for coverage through
the medicaid programs in the states that are extending the medicaid programs. millions of people who have not had insurance before are going to get coverage. >> 41% of the visitors to health care.gov were between the ages of 19 and 34 and 77% of them described themselves as being in good health. why haven't they signed up? your thoughts. >> i think they haven't signed up because they're doing what i think a lot of people would do. they don't have to sign up until there's an absolute deadline. >> so this is human nature as much as its anything else. >> of course it is. my kids have been waiting for the last minute. they want to make sure they're getting the best deal and they also more than likely are going to need some pressure, some
encouragement, from mom and dad to get coverage. that'll come too. >> what is this going to look like, you think, in the middle of march? two months from now. >> the percentages are going to be much more in line with what the administration expected. we're in this for the long haul. the people who drafted the affordable care act expect that there will be more people who are older signing up initially. this was anticipated. it's not a bit of a surprise >> i was visiting with some lawmakers last night in washington. we talked a lot about health care. i asked them, did they have a problem running on? there does seem to be a reluctance by democrats to run home and talk about how positive this health care law is. i find that very interesting.
the moral aspect of this, the moral component to this -- and when you talk to them about voting to take something away from another american, it does resonate with people. if you're doing statistics, you're not going to win that battle, but if you talk about people's lives and the moral component, who can argue with it? there's almost a lack of confidence. they're not sure if this is the right thing to do in front of constituents. >> you're right. i think there's a lack of confidence. i think there's fear there. there's been such fear mongering about the law. that's understandable. they don't have the communications strategy in place yet to figure out the best messages, to tell the truth about the law in ways that are compelling. >> great to have you with us tonight. coming up, the conservative
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extension of unemployment benefits. the republicans are not going to go along with this unless there are offsets. that's going to put the democrats where i told you they would be over a month ago. yes, i know it saves some sequester cuts, but if they didn't do this deal, we'll be talking about millions of americans being affected by the budget as opposed to 1.3 million. the democrats are going to have to come up with something. if they really want to extend these unemployment benefits the way it stands right now, the republicans have the democrats right where they want them. unfortunately this is what has happened. the next question is coming from tom. he wants to know -- do you love
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welcome back to "the ed show." there are folks on the right who want you to believe that we're keeping the focus on chris christie is because he's a threat to democrats. i hope christie runs and he's right in the thick of it all. i think he's a threat to the republican party because christie is a fracture between the gop establishment and the tea party. to get a pulse, all you need to do is listen to right wing radio across this country.
we've seen our share of christie apologyists trying to distract. >> chris christie, the republican party establishments chosen candidate for 2016, is in the cross hairs of the media. i've never been happier to watch the liberal news media tear down a republican because he's one of their own. we've come to learn that the republican establishment and the liberals are one in the same. >> they need to run from chris christie. this again is texample of why i don't like him.
>> gentlemen, great to have you with us. i thought i would take a low level exposed right wing talker and a high level exposed right wing talker in both of those clips. the big guys set the tone for what the smaller market guys are going to be saying. go ahead. >> speaking of tone, i love it when glenn beck does that voice that he just did. like he's about to recite from edgar allen poe. you're right about the local guys mocking the national guys. i listen to radio for a living. until this week, i could get up in the morning and tell you what they were all going to say. it's like a fax goes out. you keep hearing the same talking points and words and phrases. what you're hering is very
schizophrenic. a lot of these guys on the right didn't like him to begin with h. the tea party has been cool lately. now they are defending him against the liberal media like the only guys the media ever goes after when they smell blood t in the water are republicans. this flunky drudge got famous on monica gate. give me a break. >> christie has been branded as a moderate or a false republican by conservative talkers. could christie win the republican nomination without
the tea party? >> i think they need it. they can't get the image of their heads of christie hugging obama. they've latched on to this bridge gate traffic scam. they're great talking points. they're able to turn this into an attacking machine. they're perfect for beck who is telling his hateful tea party types that christie is a nixon like thug who uses government to punish his enemies. the truth is he does. i love hearing the words coming out of the odd ball mind of glenn beck. this doesn't go away for chris christie. they consider him a rhino the same way they did with mccain. >> i'm hear to announce progressives have nothing to do
with the federal investigations. that's out of our hands. is chris christie brand baggage right now? he's going down to florida to raise money, coming up here in the next few days for rick scott and the republican party. i thought he had more important things to do in new jersey, but i guess the fund raising never stops. brand baggage, do lawmakers bring him up on the stump and use him as an example? >> things blow over. 2016 is way down the road and he doesn't really have to stand up in 2014. by then, he may be out of the dog house. who knows? this 900-some page document dump he could skate. maybe he won't be implicated further. >> who is supporting him?
who on right wing radio is supporting him? >> you know who i feel bad for, what's her name? that crazy lady a couple of years ago waving her arm saying if we don't nominate chris christie, they'll nominate mitt romney. we should send her a sympathy card. >> he still has the money people behind him. he still has the wall street democrats behind him. the popularity in new jersey is still not a problem with him, but he doesn't realize that doesn't convert as well in other states. if it were my call, i'd say give him a little time before you bring him to your state and have him be the front guy for your campaign. it's bad enough what's already on the table.
you don't put him out front. rick scott, he should be a felon himself. this is the guy who stole $1.4 billion from the american public. chris christie is going to feel right at home down here in florida with rick scott. >> rick scott is going to tell chris christie, you've just got a bridge thing going on. >> exactly. >> let me show you how to really get out of stuff. >> yeah, i stole $1.4 billion. >> this is going to play out for a long time. how often does chris christie talk about this? does he keep it alive himself to exonerate himself or has he done everything he can do? >> from a media relations standpoint, that two-hour news conference that he did was a smart thing to do, but this story is much closer to the beginning than the end. the investigative work on this channel by steve about that real
estate development, other mayors are coming forward, the process will continue. he's got to be as transparent as he can and let the chips fall where they may. >> yeah. >> but i wouldn't be surprised if he survives. he's very popular in new jersey. >> if a political operative does something for the boss, isn't it human nature to tell the boss, guess what i just did for you? this is really going to be good. i'm surprised that he was absolutely sidelined in every conversation and detail that dealt with this. i find it hard to believe. coming up, the senate is still struggling to come up with plan for jobless benefits and millions of americans are being left out in the cold. we'll tell you who is really feeling the effects. that's next. open to bold ideas. that's why new york has a new plan -- dozens of tax free zones all across the state.
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welcome back to "the ed show." this is the story for the folks who take a shower after work. we start this segment. this just in. breaking news. the senate failed to advance a three-month extension of unemployment benefits moments ago. the vote was 55-45. the measure needed 60 votes to advance. so i'm sure they'll go back to the drawing board and come up with something else. the question is will the democrats sweeten the pot to get
more republicans on board. they needed 60 to move forward. 1.3 million americans have been left in the lurch with no long-term unemployment insurance. they're putting the future of america at risk in the minds of many people. the numbers are very disturbing. this out. 2.3 million children lived in homes with a parent who was unemployed in a typical month last year according to the urban institute. those kids don't have any money coming in right now because their parents were cut off of unemployment insurance. the white house estimates the number of people who lost unemployment benefits could jump to 4.9 million by the end of this year, 2014, if congress does not act. think of how many kids would be affected by the end of this year. studies shows that a parent's unemployment has a lasting negative impact on children in this country. children whose parents lose their jobs have lower math scores.
they have poorer school attendance, a higher risk of needing to repeat a grade and fall back a year, and a bigger chance of being suspended or expelled. these children have lower rates of college attendance, and their future earnings can be greatly diminished. right now an extension isn't looking good, as we just reported to you. senate republicans did not go along with the democrats. the vote was 55-45. of course, the republicans have two demands. they need to find a way to pay for an extension of the benefits. and members would also be allowed to come back and offer amendments to the bill. this seems to be the sticking points at this point. for more on all of, this david cay johnston, pulitzer prize winning journalist joins us tonight. david kay, good to have you on with us. these numbers, in your estimation, how real is the effect on children when we talk about unemployment benefits expiring? >> oh, it's absolutely
devastating. and say this speaking to you from the city that has the second worst concentration of very poor children in america. rochester, new york, despite all the wealth around us. what is amazing to me, ed, this damage is being done, there will be 200,000 jobs that we will lose if we don't renew these benefits on an emergency basis according to the cbo. and secondly, i thought the republicans were the party of family values. what is the family value here that they are upholding? >> there just seems to be no intensity and no concern with this issue. 1.3 million people. that number is growing by, i was told last night in washington, by 72,000 a week. 1.9 more will lose their benefits in the next six months. and why are the republicans so dogmatic with this issue? >> well, i think that they don't have any contact with people who are in these circumstances. and they have no recognition of
this, nor much more importantly do their key donors. you know, we live in a society so economically segregated that it's very easy to not recognize that statistically, every 52nd person that you encounter has no income today except food stamps. that we have the worst child poverty by far of all the modern countries, all the modern economies. no one else is doing what we're doing with children. and the devastating effects are long-term and there is abundant research. i go back to my point. what family value here are the republicans upholding? >> politically, there is no doubt that the republicans are on the same page. they're not laying this all on the shoulders of the speaker of the house, john boehner. the senate is playing "hardball" in a big way. they want offsets. let's go down that road. i get a sense there is no way this is going to get done unless they find some money in the budget somewhere, although you can't cut defense.
so where does this leave the democrats, as you see it? >> well, the democrats are going to give up something somewhere because they really understand that this needs to be done. and it's too bad we can't do it in defense, because we only spend about 42% of all the money in the world that is spent on the military. but we have all sorts of subsidy programs to corporations. i can't see the republicans going for that one either. maybe instead of cutting food stamps, we could cut farm support. can't see the republicans doing that. i don't know, ed. i honestly don't know. but what i do know is i hear politicians all the time tell us children are our future. well, then let's invest in them. that is something that doesn't seem to be on their radar screen right now. they are all about the money. they're all about offsets. and there seems to be consistent language coming out of the house, as well it is being illustrated in the senate by that vote tonight. david cay johnston, good to have you with us. we'll have more on this vote
tomorrow and more commentary as we move on. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, jammed up in new jersey. this was supposed to be a big day for new jersey governor chris christie. his state of the state address, his day to roll out his vision for the year. instead, the cloud of scandal hangs above him. >> now, the last week has certainly tested this administration. mistakes were clearly made. and as a result, we let down the people we're entrusted to serve. i know our citizens deserve better. much better. >> mistakes were clearly made. today many new questions. here are the days of the lane