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work i've ever been a part of. it's because the cause of my life. >> kathleen sebelius is out. sylvia math knew matthews burre. >> these been here even when it got rough. >> she oversaw a very disastrous rollout of obamacare. >> was she pushed out? >> she's been a very convenient punching bag. >> they get to end on a vostronr political footing. >> the final score speaks for itself. >> republicans were enthusiastic about her departure. this resignation is the latest indication of what a disaster obamacare has been. >> unfortunately a page is miss. >> there is a lot of big questions about obamacare moving board. >> nominating a younger woman who has a great record who has a lot of republican support.
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republicans will see an opportunity to launch a campaign against health care. >> we are on the front lines of a long overdue national change. >> i'm humbled, honored and excited. >> there is going to be a battle. farewell sebelius. after five years and after months of dealing with the glitch-operationed rollout of the affordable care act, kathleen sebelius has officially announced her resignation. speaking from the white house this morning, the outgoing secretary described her experience shepherding through the aca something she called the most meaningful work of her career. >> i got to be a leader of hhs during these most historic times. >> i knew it wouldn't be easy. there is a reason that no earlier president was successful in passing health reform. throughout the legislative battles, the supreme court
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challenge, a contentious re-election and years of votes to turn back the clock, we are making progress. >> president obama took the time to sing the secretary's praises, acknowledge the challenges she once faced and of course show off some battle wounds. >> kathleen has been here through the long fight to pass the affordable care act. she helped guide its implementation even when it got rough. she's got bumps, i've got bumps. bruises. the final score speaks for itself. 7.5 million people have the security of health insurance, most of them for the very first time and that's because of the woman standing next to me or today. and we are proud of her for that. that's an historic accomplishment.
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>> let's go live to the president, that was him of course on tape just introduced by al sharpton. >> i appreciate the idea of being an action president, although i do also have style. i just want to point that out. i know it's not about it, but i do have it. al's not the only guy with style. we've got barbara arweindt here today. melanie campbell, thank you. mark morall thank you, state and local officials from new york. and of course we've got all of you. so thank s to all of you you fo such a wonderful welcome. everybody sit down.
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sit down. al doesn't know how to get back to his seat. something help the leader. they will explain it. you'll be all right. last time i was here was three years ago. p a few things have changed since then. i'm here as a second term president.a few things have cha then. i'm here as a second term president. i have more gray hair. that's all right. let's see what else. i've got twice as many dogs. i'm glad i won't have to serve a
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third term because three dogs is too many. i can't keep on promising malia and sasha another dog. of course one thing that has not changed is your commitment to the cause of civil rights for everybody. an opportunity for all people. and that's been something that has been on my mind this week, some of you may know that yesterday i was down in austin, texas at the lbj library to speak on the 50th anniversary of the civil rights act and the man who signed it into law. and standing there, i thought of all the americans, known and unknown, who made it possible for me to stand in that spot, who marched and organized and sat in and stood up for jobs and for justice. and i thought of all who achieve that had great victory and others. not just with respect to the civil rights act, but the voting
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rights act and the fair housing act and immigration reform and medicare and medicaid and the first battles of the long war on poverty. over the past five years in the wake of the worst economic crisis of our life time, we've won some victories, for a. nearly 9 million new jobs in america's businesses over the past four years. 7.5 million americans signing up to buy health care coverage under the affordable care act. and millions more who have gained coverage through medicaid and c.h.i.p. and young people being able to stay on their parents' plans. the rate of uninsureded americans is down. high school dropout rates are down. our high school graduation rate is the highest on record. more young people are earning college degrees than ever before. we've made progress and we've
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taken action. but we also know our work is unfinished. too many americans working harder than ever just to get by. too many americans who aren't working at all. so we know we have to do more to restore america's promise of opportunity for all people. particularly for communities hardest hit by the recession, particularly for those who struggled since long before the recession. not only african americans, and latino, but americans trapped across the country in pockets of poverty, innercitinnercity, sub. rural. and we know what opportunity means. opportunity means more good jobs that pay good wages. opportunity means training folks for those jobs. opportunity means changing the odds for all of our children through pre-k, something mayor de blasio's fighting for here in new york city.
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and opportunity means affordable higher education for all who are willing to work for it. tupts mea opportunity means answering the call to be my brother's keeper. before i came out, i was in a photo line, my good friend freddie haines, a great pastor from the great state of texas. and he told me this summer he'll hire 100 young men, pay them $10.10 an hour. maybe $10.50. as a consequence of this call. and the point is my brother's keeper, that is not something i do, that's not just something the government sdrdoes, that's something everybody can participate in because we know these young men need spuupport. opportunity means making the minimum wage a wamg you can live
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on. it means equal pay for equal work. overtime pay for workers who earned it. tipping to extend the right of yacht affordable health care for every american in every state. because we have some states that aren't doing the right thing. we is states out of political spite are leaving millions uninsuunip shn su sureed that could be getting health insurance right now. no good reason for it. if you ask them what is the examination, they can't really tell you. it also means like dealing with the dangers of carbon pollution that is disproportionately affecting low income communities, making sure our young people are eating right so listen to michelle.
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just saying. so we know we have more work to do to bridge the gap between our founding ideals and the realities of our time. and the question then becomes, well, how do we actually make these changes. how does it happen. how do we get a minimum wapage passed. how do we make sure that hose states that aren't implementing the affordable care act are doing right by their citizens. we have to be vimg lapt gilant e the gains we've made and also make more gains in the future. and that's the meaning of these last 50 years since the civil rights act was passed. because across the country right now, there are well organized
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and well funded efforts to undo these gains. and under those gains, that's what i want on spend the rest of my time talking about. just as inequality feeds on injustice, opportunity requires justice and justice requires the right to vote. johnson -- president johnson right after he signed the civil rights act into law told his adviser, some of whom were telling them just wait, you've done a big thing now, let's let the dust settle, don't stir folks up, he said i can't wait. we have to press forward and pass the voting rights act. johnson said about this, there can be and should be no argument. every american citizen must have an equal right to vote.
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voting -- voting is a time when we all have an equal say. black or white. wretch or poorich or poor. man or woman. doesn't matter. in the eyes of the law and in our democracy, we're all supposed to have that equal right to cast our ballot to help determine the direction of our society. the principle of one person, one vote is the single greatest tool we have to redress an unjust status company. you would think there would not be an argument about this anymore. but the simple truth this. the right to vote is threatened today in a way that it has not since nearly five decades ago. across the country, republicans
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have led efforts to pass laws making about harder, not easier, for people to vote. in some places women could be turned away from the poll just because they're registered under their maiden name but their driver's license has their married maimayo married name. senior citizens are told they cannot vote up they come up with the right i.d. about 60% of americans don't have a passport. just because you don't have the money to travel abroad doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to vote here at home. and just to be clear, i know where my birth certificate is, but a lot of people don't. a lot of people don't.
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do you remember that was? that was some crazy stuff. i haven't thought about that in a while. i want to be clear. i'm not against reasonable attempts to secure the ballot. we understand that there has to be rules in place. but i am against requiring an i.d. that millions of americans don'ted is suddenly prevent
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you from exercising your right to vote. all of us are created equal and we understand it took a long time to make sure that those words meant something. but 50 years ago, we put laws in place because of enormous struggles to vindicate that idea. to make our democracy truly mean something. and that makes it wrong to pass allows that make it harder for any eligible citizen to vote especially because every citizen doesn't just have the right to vote, they have the responsibility to vote. so, yes, we're right to be a
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fraud against voter fraud. we don't want folks voting that shouldn't be voting. let's stipulate to that as the lawyers say. but there is a reason why those who argue that harsh restrictions on voting are somehow necessary to fight voter fraud are having such a hard time proving any real widespread voter fraud. so i just want to give you some statistics. one recent study found only ten cases of alleged in person voter impersonation in 12 years. ten cases. another analysis found that out of 197 million votes cast for federal elections between 2002 and 2005, only 40 voters out of 197 million were indicted for fraud. for those of you who are math
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majors, as a percentage, that is 0.00002%. that's not a lot. so let's be clear. the real voter fraud is those that try to deny our rights by making arguments about voter fraud. but i have to say, there have been some of these officials who have been passing these laws have been more blunt. they said this is going to be good for the republican party. some of them have not been shy about saying that they're doing this for partisan reasons. it is wrong, president johnson said, deadly wrong, to deny any of your fellow meamericans the
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right on vote. it's wrong to it make citizens wait for five, six hours just to vote. it's wrong to make a senior citizen who no longer has a driver's license jump through hoops to exercise the right she has cherished for a lifetime. america did not sacrifice the right to vote only to see it denied to their kids and their grandchildren. we have to pay attention to this. some of the followif of the fol know one of the first leads i had out of law school was to lead a vote registration drive. we registered more than 150,000 new voters. and as an organizer, i got to help other citizens exercise their most cherished and fundamental rights. that mattered to me. and as president, i'm not going
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to let attacks on these rights go unchallenged. we won't let voter suppression go unchallenged. so earlier this week, you heard from the attorney general and there is a reason the agency he runs is called the department of justice. they have taken on more than 100 voting rights cases since 2009, they have defended the right of everybody from african-americans to spanish speakers to soldiers serving overseas. earlier in year a bipartisan commission i appointed chaired by my election lawyer and mitt romney's election lawyer came up with a series of common sense reforms to modernize voter registration and to curb the potential for fraud in a smart way and ensure that no one has to wait for more than half an hour to cast a ballot. states and local election boards should take up those recommendations. i urge members of congress to
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honor those who gave their live so is that others could exercise their rights and update the voting rights act. go ahead and get that done. do if because the right for vote is something cherished by every american.tf because the right f vote is something cherished by every american. because the rige is something cherished by every american. there are a whole bunch of folks out there who don't vote for me. didn't vote for me, don't like what i do. the idea that i would prevent them from exercising their franchise makes no sense. black or white, man or woman,
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urban, rural, rich, poor, native american, disabled, gays, straight, republican or democrat, voters who want to vote should be able to vote. period. full stop. voting is an issue of citizenship. but this recent effort to restrikts tr restrict the vote has been led by the republican party. and in fairness, it's not just democrats who are concerned. you had one republican state legislature point out, and i'm quoting here, making it more difficult for people to vote is not a good sign for a party who wants to attract more people. that's a good insight.
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right? i want a competitive republican part party. but i don't want folks changing the rules to try to restrict people's access to the ballot. and think responsible people regardless of your party affiliation should agree with that. if your strategy depends on having fewer people show up to vote, that's not a sign of strength. that's a sign of weakness. not only is it ultimately bad politics, it harms the entire country. we end up stuck year after year with special interest policies that benefit a for ntunate few.
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injustice per pet chew ats inequality, justice opens up opportunity. as infuriating as it can be, our history has to give us hope. no matter how intensely that progress has been challenged, ultimately this nation has moved forward. as dr. king said, the arc is long. it bends toward justice. we move forward on civil right, women right, gay rights, we know when ordinary citizens come together, we love just sis wiic not be denied. so the single most important thing we can do to protect our right to vote is to vote.
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so i'm going to make one last point here. we'll have an attorney general that looks at all the laws that are being passed. we'll have civic organizations that are making sure that state laws and local laws are doing what they're supposed to do. we will fight back whenever we see up fairly the franchise being challenged. but the truth is that for all these laws that are being put this place, the bigge egest pro we have is people giving up their own you power. voluntarily not participating. the number of people who voluntarily don't vote dwarfs whatever these laws that are put in place might do in terms of diminishing the voting rolls.
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so we can't treat these new barriers as an excuse not to participate. we can't use cynicism as an excuse. sometimes i hear people saying we haven't gotten everything we need. we still have poverty, we still have problems. of course. these things didn't happen overnight. when i was down in texas, everybody was celebrating the day that the civil rights law was finally passed. remember there were decades in which people sacrificed and worked hard. change doesn't happen yeovernig, but it happens as long as we don't purposely give our power away. every obstacle put in our path should remind us of the power we have in our hands every time we pull that lever or touch that screen. we just have to harness that power. we have to create a national network committed to taking action.
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we can call it the national action network. so i want you to go out there and redouble your efforts. register more voters. help more folks to get their rights. get them to the polls. if they don't let you do it on sunday, do it on tuesday instead. i know it's better going to the polls on sunday because you go to church, you get a little meal. got the bus waiting for you. i understand. but you can do it without that if we have to. we're marking many anniversaries. it's interesting for me. i've been on this earth for 52 years. so to see the progress we've made is to see my open life and the progression that's happened. you think about brown versus
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board of education and the sicil rights acts and with those anniversaries, we had new reason to remember those who made it possible if us to be here. two white, one black murdered 50 years ago as they tried to help their fellow citizens register to vote. james cheney and andrew goodman, they were willing to lay down their live foos s for it. the least you can do is take up the gift that they have given you. go out there and street. you can make a change. you do have the power. i've run my last election, but i need you you to make chur that the changes that we started tip for decades to come. thank you. god bless you.ip for decades to. thank you. god bless you.he changes that w for decades to come. thank you. god bless you. ♪ >> that was a fired up president
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obama speaking at the national action network convention in new york city. he is wrapping up what has been a whirlwind week. on wednesday the president was in texas to deliver remarks at the ft. hood mem orial service. yesterday in austin marking the 50th anniversary the sifcivil rights act. and this morning back in washington to accept the resignation of kathleen sebelius. joining me now, mark halperin and ezra klein. thank you for hanging with me. mark, it's been a big week for the president and i want to start with the news today today. kathleen sebelius is leaving. i feel like there is a lateness we're seeing. into the just someone so associated with a glitch plagued rollout is actually leaving, but the new numbers on health care are very good for this administration. it feels like there is a sense
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of relief from the white house. >> chance to turn the page. incredible respect in the administration and even amongst republicans. that is a good pick, burwell, because a lot of talk about if sebelius stepped down, did they want a confirmation fight. sylvia burwell solves that problem as much as anyone can. so there is alikeness about it. and also you saw in the president today more spring in his step, more passion than we've seen i wouldn't say in a long time, but certainly not totally usual. and i think this has been a good week for him politically, it's shrewd step for the white house. >> ezra, you have a headline that says kathleen sebelius is
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resigning because obamacare has won. and the numbers are serious. but has the war over obamacare truly been won? i will point out the minute kathleen sebelius' resignation was announced, there were tweets from the conservative peanut gallery, eric cantor said i thank secretary sebelius for her service. she had an impossible task. the problem with the law isn't leaving. obamacare has to go, too. never ever stop trying to repeal. >> the war over obama care won't he said. but they made a really controversial decision. i think people for get this a bit. the belief was, and there are really loud calls, that soo sa beel yus should be fired because she had managed that process
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amend sand she did not know that it was 245not going to work at all. president obama made a point of saying to his staff that we are not going to panic, weep we''ll the team together. and the fact that she's leaving a week after we hear 7.5 million people have signed up, millions more than expected have signed up through employers, 3.5 million signed up through medicaid, this is the white house saying that they think obamacare is on sound enough technical footing that they can build on and they can begin switching out the team. they wouldn't do that if they felt obamacare survival was threatened. but they're ready for 2015. >> just further underscoring the
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fact that i think the white house probably did want this departure and is ready for it, we know kathleen sebelius started talking to the president about this in march, but it's telling that last week when he was doing his victory lap, he did not mention her namg. receives charged with shepherding this to initial rollout and to not mention the secretary in charge of that program seemed like i don't know even know if smub wnub was the word. but i thought it was he willing that a mention was not made of her. >> you would have thrived back in the '80s if you had been a correspondent because your terminology is excellent. to focus on the symbol wlichl of th
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, purpose ply they left her out. that event they wanted to just be a positive marker. probably the high point or one of the high points at least of the affordable care act so far. they gave her her due today. i think the president recognizes as he plays the long game on obama care and the affordable care act knowing in the midterms it's going to be a negative in a lot of races. no matter how well it does the remainder of the year, no matter how well they sell it. in the long game, he hopes kathleen sebelius goes down in history for having unimplemented this recall. >> ezra, when we talk about the war over obamacare, a headline says the right searches for obamacare replacement finds
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obamacare. so many of the things people like require so many of things republicans don't like. and they're not ready yet to take a vote because he's building consensus. the truth is there is no viable alternative. but republicans have painted themselves into a corner where i don't understand where the escape hatch is. >> that's right, batch caobamac inspired by the plan mitt romney passed in massachusetts. so republicans turned against the structural nature before coming up with something new that they believed in. but when you go back to in the beginnings of this plan, it looks like what senate republicans offered. then it got adopted by mitt romney and then later only in part by president obama. remember, he was against the individual mandate initially. and then later it becomes something that republicans are much happier with.
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but because it was president obama's bill, it became a total -- >> kryptonite. >> kryptonite. and they weren't left with a policy. and the whoite house actually hs been more compromising than republicans have led on. that has forced republicans to abandon a lot of policies. >> a story true across a number of policies. >> payroll tax cut. >> immigration reform. mark, sylvia matthews burwell, in terms of her confirmation process, we just need 51 democrats to support her nomination to get her confirmation. that does not mean that every opportunity will be made to fight obamacare.
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statement saying he had concerns about burwell's willingness to ignore the clear intent of congress. the beginning of obama care, middle of obama care and the initial enrollment are all going to be revisited by our republican friends in the senate. >>vil sylvia matthews will have be prepared to talk about the past and also the future. where is the independent advisory board? what happens to -- what has been the motivation and reaction natural for all the twli he del implemented? and what is happening with these cases of people losing access. a lot of reasonable questions for answer. doesn't mean they will stop her, sdpts mean that the law will be repealed by any means.
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but she will have to be prepared for a lot of questions. >> indeed, 36 million people expected to be enrolled by 2017, 24 on the which exchange, 12 on medicaid. mark, i'm sorry you had to sit next to an empty chair. >> it's lonely here. >> you've soldiered through. ezra, thanks. thank you, guys. coming up, we just heard president obama speaking at the national action network in new york city. joy reed and joan walsh join me for a discussion about voting rights and the republicans working very hard to yuundermin awful them. jirn nobody told us to expect it... intercourse that's painful due to menopausal changes.ll of. the problem isn't likely to go away... ...on its own. so it's time we do something about it. and there's help. premarin vaginal cream. a prescription that does what
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just as inequality feeds on injustice, opportunity requires justice and justice requires the right to vote.
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every citizen must have an equal right to vote. voting is a time when we all have the equal say. rich or poor, man or woman, skpt matter. let's be clear, the real voter fraud is people who try to ken our rights by making bogus arguments about voter fraud. >> that was president obama moments ago speaking at the national action could not vepgs in new york city. the president's speech, a fiery address that has quite a bit of campaign energy behind it focused on the shove voting rig issue of votes rights or vote are fraud. joining me now, joy reed and joan walsh. i'm fired up and ready to go. the president is back. the "washington post" has a
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headline saying voting rights is the democrats most important project in 2014 and listening to the president today, that certainly seemed apparent. >> it seemed apparent. that was a really wonderful speech because he said to the audience a those of us listening out here that the republicans are trying to take away people's rights. he talked about the obstacles being put in people's way. but he also said we cannot let that stop us. we can complain about republicans, but to come back and say we'll fight those laws, we want to protect your rights, but in the meantime, you help us protect your rights. so i thought it was a very effective speech. yes, we will see the anniversary of freedom summer. we will have an opportunity to
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rally democrats and say don't let people have died in vain. >> and the president was in austin talking about the civil rights act. and he was speaking in large part to the black community which is of course is disproportionately affected. in ohio, where they have eliminated sunday early voting, weekday evening voting, eliminated same day registration, in that say thtat black voters constituted 56% of all weekend voters in g guy hoea cuyahoga counties. >> and could that be more different than the speech at the lbj library.
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this was a square punch for the republicans. and zeroing into black voters, which is to react to the attempt to take away the right to vote by voting in even greater numbers and pairing that with the constant not voluntarily give away your vote. but we're talking about in wisconsin where all the restrictions 150e78 to target milwaukee. and when he said take those souls to the polls, the audience knew exactly what he was talking about. sunday voting is be targeted everywhere republicans attempt to reform the voting rules. >> i thought that was the mostly the ral and dredwrekt appeal to only are we going to fight this, but you have to show up. democrats problem in hidden in term election, democratic voters don't show up to the polls.
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i think beyond that political practical camity, though, this is -- when the president sort of -- he called it an unamerican activity on the part of the governors. and i tend to agree. when you look at what the state legislatures are trying to do, the party in crisis that needs to broaden its appeal is trying to make it harder for people to exercise their democratic right is shameless. >> it's shocking. let's use all the s words. and he quoted state senator dale schultz of wisconsin. for a party that wants more voters, this is a strange way of showing it. i went back and looked at president george w. bush's signing statement when he signed the reauthorization of the voting rights acts.
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it passed the house 98-0. that is extraordinary. he talked about how this was miles per hour a american and this was our legacy. and in eight short year, they turned around and they have become the party that wants to stop black people from voting? it's really so remarkable to see this kind of a sea change. in eight years. it's tragic and an occasion for soul searching on the part of the republican party. >> and let us quote the person that republicans love quoting more than anybody. ronald reagan. in 1981 urging congress to remain true to its principles,
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we cannot you allow any american's vote to be denied or defiled. the right to vote is the crown jewel of measure will i be herities and we will not see it luster diminished. and there are some some republicans who remember the words of reagan and they are feeling the slightest bit ashamed. republican governors and legislate information ors are n say this is about equity, making sure urban and rural voters have the same times and windows in which they can vote. >> it's an attempt to cover apobscenity. even worse than you do have the part if i in which the president said if your goal is to reduce the number of people coming out to vote, if your strategy is to
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make sure people complaint coan to vote, that is a sign of wakeness. but when you talk about that urban rural dynamic, the biggest dog whistle. exceptionally saying we have to make sure that the rural voters who is unfair because the urban voters are coming out and implying there is something false about this idea, so we'll equal loize the rules. we'll make sure the poll is closed when you get there. and that has been calmed out by t k5u8 the out by republicans before. jim greer told me directly when these rules were pitched in from a to get rid of early voting, get rid of sunday voting, they
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understood exactly who they were are targeting. >> joan, i know you've written about it, the president addressed something that we haven't talked a lot about let's take a listen. >> wourt a document like a passport or birth certificate, they can't register. i know where my birth certificate is, but a lot of people don't. that was crazy. >> it was crazy what that president has born through. >> it was crazy. it's still going on out there. it's not over for him. but he was in a friendly kraud and he let his hair down and allowed himself to let at that. can you believe what i've had to go through?
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and the crowd knew exactly what he was you saying. >> and the birth certificate is still online. thank you, my friends. have a good weekend. after the break, it is dead line day for chris christie or at least his attorneysgate revi. they have up the end of today to fork over the interviews they conducted. we'll discuss whether anyone will actually see those transcripts. [ dennis ] it's always the same dilemma -- who gets the allstate safe driving bonus check. rock beats scissors! [ chuckles ] wife beats rock. and with two checks a year, everyone wins. [ female announcer ] switch today and get two safe driving bonus checks a year for driving safely. only from allstate. call 866-906-8500 now. [ dennis ] zach really loves his new camera. problem is...this isn't zach. it's a friend of a friend who was at zach's party and stole his camera.
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[ female announcer ] f provokes lust. ♪ it elicits pride... incites envy... ♪ ...and unleashes wrath. ♪ temptation comes in many heart-pounding forms. but only one letter. "f". the performance marque from lexus. according to reports, the committee investigating the bridge scandal has received the list of 70 people interviewed.
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the panel had given randy mastro up today to turn over documents or face new subpoenas. but today they got a reprieve. the co-chair issued a statement reading we're in set of the list of those interviewed for its report. and have agreed to give the law firm up noon until noon to monday. joining me now is senator wineburg. some news today. you have the list of those 70 names. i'm wondering if you can give us in hint as to who may be on it. but beyond that, how much cooperation are you expecting? >> first of all, i call it the
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so-called invest gaer to report. we received a list today apparently 2actually of 75 name. au and let me correct something. there are no transcripts or recordings of any of their interviews. the only thing they have to turn offic over to us is their notes of the so-called interviews. so we have given them until noon on monday to turn those notes over to us. but what they seem to be is the mast on ro interpretation. that puts another layer of disbelief around this report.
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i'm curious about how this put in this whole alleged personal relationship between two of the main characters in this kind of drama. it doesn't tell us who broke up with whom by the way. so it will be interesting to read what they give us on mop. the names would be not a surprise to somebody, some nobody knows. second and third level employees in the administration. >> you talk about the fact there are no transcripts. the new jersey taxpayers paid almost $1 million for this
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report. what are the potential repercussions? if they spent $1 million on funding a report that seems largely to be here say. >> well, first of all, we don't know if it's just a million dollars. there have been some estimates that perhaps it's even higher. and interestingly enough, and this came out when the treasury and attorney general appeared before the senate budget committee, that the law firm has yet to put in any vouchers or any billings. so nobody has been able to rye true t review the vouchers on bills. these attorneys are getting $650 an hour which supposedly is a discount to the taxpayers.
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to me what i read and saw, it sounds like a defense attorney summing up before a jury. it has very little fact in it. we don't know quhwhat the notes will show us. and they talked about al leler letter i had written and maybe they should have asked what did do you do when they received that letter.i had written and m should have asked what did do you do when they received that letter.had written and maybe th should have asked what did do you do when they received that letter. as to there are omissions in the
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report. >> we know a judge turned down the -- basically kelly and stepien pleaded the fifth. you could potentially grant them immu immunity, but that would immunize them from the federal investigation. how much has this u.s. federal investigation complicated the work of your legislation difference super committee? >> i think for the los angeles lit difference committee it, we he have a different charge than. and our attorney has been in talks with u.s. attorney. we are being very careful not to interfere with anything that they're doing and i think the u.s. attorney has been respectful of the role of the different branch of government, the legislature. and it is true that in judge jacobs jacobson's decision, she did say -- she clarified that we can
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give immunity and those are all issues that we will be discussing in the future. >> new jersey state senate majority leader, thank you for your time. >> thank you. that is all for now. i'll see you back in new york city monday at 4:00 p.m. eastern. the ed show is coming up next. welcome to the ed show. i'm ready to xwgo. let's get to work. >> i no longer need a cable subscription. >> letterman is out and colbert is in. >> i do not especially have i whoever they try to put in that chair. >> cbs has just declared war on the heartland. >> those are huge shoes to fill and some real

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