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♪ time to talk about what we learned today. >> we all look forward to nicole who has a mother's day announcement. >> one of my favorite mother, barbara bush, is running a literacy fund and they will match any donation 100%. >> wow! >> coming up, chuck todd and "the daily rundown" next. majority rules. my exclusive interview with senate majority leader harry reid. he pulls no punches and has some fancy footwork when it comes to 2016. and jim clyburn on the sights
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and sounds that shape his politics and what he expects to hear and see in 2015. plus, we heard nina turner lay out her side and today the man she would like to knock out of office, republican john husted. good morning. this is thursday, may 8, 2014. i'll get to my first sitdown, harry reid. he's a study in contrast, mild mannered and sharp tongued. he knows the rule book better than anyone. a man who never let's opponents forget. he was also an amateur boxer and is apparently not afraid of a fight. he's become the 2014 boogie man that republicans are looking for. what nancy pelosi was to campaigns in 2010, senate republicans are hoping to do to
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harry reid in 2014. i sat down with reid, as you'll see, when it comes to his hard-nosed legislative style, he's unapologetic. we hit a lot of issues under the sun, beginning with whether democrats will get anything done this year in the senate. >> i had to overcome over 500 fill i busters. 500. during the six years that lyndon johnson was leader, he had to overcome one. mine, over 500. and it's because of the deal they made right after obama was elected. so i hope that they will suddenly change. i think we've had some ideas during this last little bit that's been important. we've had the house directed by boehner say let's do a budget and he instructed ryan to work with the budget chair over here, senator murray, and we came up with a budget. he also decided, the speaker,
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that we should stop playing around with the debt ceiling. during the reagan years, we increased the debt 18 times. we've struggled since obama was elected. boehner said let's stop struggling. so we did that easily. we needed a spending bill. the speaker decided let's do a spending bill and we did that, led by over here shelby and mccullski. on things that even rick santorum wants done, we should do something on minimum wage. >> that sounds like a long answer to say you don't expect much to get the president's desk. >> it's a long answer to say unless they change, we can't get things done, things that the american people want. minimum wage. pay equity. those kind of things. >> let me stop you at minimum wage. this is -- it seems -- it doesn't seem like there's any deal making going on. and i say this and you've
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probably heard a few of this talk about this on the air, i talked about it with senator santorum, you brought him up. if you could get republicans to agree to $9 an hour, would you take that deal? >> chuck, i am known for a lot of things, but one thing i've been known for is a deal maker. that's what i did. i ran the floor for senator daschle for all those years and you can ask republicans then, who were here then, i was the guy they came to to get things done. >> i know that well. >> right now on minimum wage. it seems that we should have a wage that would get people out of poverty. that's what 10.10, that wasn't just a funny number -- >> i understand that. the president just a year ago had $9 is what he proposed. >> the answer is we can do a lot of things on minimum wage. >> but you're not budging from the number? >> no. but there are things we can still do and i'm waiting to hear from someone. but the number, someone after
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all these years should be able to work 40 hours really hard and be out of poverty. >> so you would not negotiate on the number. you'll negotiate on other parts of it but not on the 10.10. >> there are lots of other things we can negotiate on. my saying this should open the door to my republican colleagues. there are things we can do. i'm willing to work with you. >> let me ask you on this, i just ran into a republican senator. i said what are you doing here? i said i'm sitting down with senator reid. he said ask him why there have only been eight republican amendments voted on over the years? they feel as if they don't get a chance to vote on their own amendments. >> it's an easy question to answer. why have i had to overcome 500 filibusters on motions that mean nothing except to eat up time. we were given the assurance that will could be no motions to
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proceed necessary. of course that lasted about a week and a half. so i say to my republican friends, let us get on these bills. we use of hundreds and hundreds of hours on waste. on the floor today i said everybody be aware out there in tv land, why are we doing nothing today? because we are now in another filibuster. keep in mind that i'm sure the bill that they were talking about today is energy efficiency. >> it's about the energy bill. >> we've been working on that for a year. i have used different illustrations -- >> you had the greased pig. >> working with my senate republican colleagues reminds me of chasing one of these little pigs in a greased pig contest. >> i used greased pig, i used the shell game because that's what it is. listen. listen to this. it was held up a year ago for a lot of reasons, one of which was david witter said he believes that people who work here for us
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shouldn't have health care. okay? >> it wasn't health care. it was getting the -- it was getting the subsidy. >> it's getting health care. don't be playing his game. he wanted to stop staff from getting health care. it's what he wanted. every other business in america who their employer helps them with health care, major business and we should be a major business. there are 6,500 employees here in the senate. so he held that up and there were other people who held it up. so i was told, come on, let's see what we can do because we can't do things out here on the floor. let's see if ron widen can do something with murkowski and the committee to come up with something and they did. they came up with some good bipartisan efforts. it increased the bill's betterment so much. so that's done. they come to me, seven republicans, and say, okay, we need to pass this bill, it's so important to the country.
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i say, good, i'll do that. so then they come to me and say, okay, that agreement, i want to change it a little bit. that was right before the easter recess. what we want to do is have a n nonbinding vote on keystone. i say, okay, let's do it. then they come back after recess and say we want to change it now. we want a real vote. i say, okay, we'll change the agreement again. >> you'll do an up or down vote on keystone if it has no amendments, you'll do that tomorrow? >> yes, yes. they've said we agree on that but let's change it again. on things that are so -- on their face it's an evident to kill the bill. >> you feel like they're poison pills. this whole process for the senate, at least for me it's
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interesting. i know for some folks -- that is this idea there's a bipartisan criticism of you and mcconnell and also somewhat a boehner and pelosi that the leadership over the last three or four congresses has it and too much control of the political process and committee ranking members don't have the same influence to do things on their own. you hear the grumblings, you never hear the names with it, you hear they're being told by leadership they can't cut deals on their own. what do you say to that criticism? >> i love deal cutters. i have a number of them in my caucus, i tease them about them being my meddlers in chief. top carper, chuck shuman, dick sherman, mary landrieu. i want them to work. and remember what i did what i became the leader. i strengthened the committee
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system. we have not had a single task force since i've been the leader because i have strengthened the committee system. the problem is you have a committee like the judiciary committee that puts out lots of stuff. it can't move on the floor. the energy committee. dr. coburn himself has held up hundreds of things. hundreds of things. and the republicans over here won't buck him. >> you don't believe democrats play any role in this? it feels like a tit for tat game. i don't mean to use this process words but there's no belief there's any tit for tat here? >> in modern journalism, everything you do is a tit for tat. you won't call things the way they exist. what's happening here is the republicans stop everything from happening. there's no question that the
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meeting took place. you can give me the tit for tat all you want, but the fact is we want to legislate. we want to take votes. >> do you believe -- how much of the republican conference do you think wants to legislate and how much do you think they don't want? there's some argument that says legislation equals more government so -- >> i think there are a number of republicans. the republican party in the congress, not in the country, but the republican party in the congress has lost the middle. there's no middle anymore. the first term, which was a congress where we got more done than any in history. susan collins is still here. bless her heart. lamar alexander tries. rob portman is a kind-hearted
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man, he tries. take this energy efficiency bill for example. we have seven republicans who said they would support this bill. comes right down to it because of this thing they always come back, we don't have enough amendments, even though we added ten to the bill. they talked johnny eisens out of it. we can't get anything done. >> you stood up for general shinseki. there is a sense of frustration obviously with how the v.a. works. you know the back log. frankly, i could argue the v.a. has been under criticism for decades, plural. how do you restore confidence in
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the v.a. without firing shinseki or asking he to resign? there's clear lay confidence problem. >> listen, there's a lot of criticism of the veterans administration. we have back logs of cases that shouldn't be as big as it is. understand what this good man, shinseki, is dealing with. he's no question of his patriotism. he's a disabled veteran from the vietnam conflict. he's the same guy that they fired during the bush administration because he said iraq's not going so well, we need more soldiers over here, they fired him. because of the iraq war and afghanistan war, millions of people have been put in the system that didn't exist there before. it's not just people who have been driving trucks. these are people who have been injured. tens of thousands of them. and post traumatic stress
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syndrome. a lot of problems here. so he's working and it's a hard job he has. it's easy in washington, this kind of washington talk. try to find somebody better than this man -- >> you don't think there's somebody out there better than him to run this job? >> no. i mean, it's easy to fire him, things will be a lot better. firing this good man is not going to make it any better. >> speaking of secretary shinseki, will the four-star general in charge of the v.a. be able to hold on to his job? my colleague over at the pentagon, he got an exclusive with shinseki yesterday. here is what shinseki told mik. >> are you willing to accept full responsibility? >> i am. and that's the reason the i.g. is down there doing the investigation. >> they want you to resign or be fired. will you resign? >> i would say i serve at the pleasure of the president.
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>> i also have much more of my interview with majority leader harry reid ahead, including what he's saying about his own political future, his take on who should run for president in 2016 and a surprising accusation against the owner of the washington redskins. there's a lot more we'll have tomorrow as well, by the way. as tdr 50 rolls through the buckeye state, we've got ohio secretary of state john husted here for his side of this debate and fight over voting rights. but first, a look at today's planner. as president obama continues a west coast swing, that is all fund-raising today in california. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line anytime for 15 bucks a month. low dues... great terms... let's close.
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week, we're in ohio. it's been a week since the aclu filed a lawsuit challenging a raft of new measures that will challenge voting issues. here's what the suit claims. that by cutting back early voting opportunities, the ohio legislature and specifically secretary of state john husted are impacting tens of thousands of low-income, elderly and african-american voters. on wednesday you heard candidate for secretary of state nina turner say husted is deliberately cutting voters out of the process. >> the lawsuits have been filed time and time against him because he has been using his policies to suppress the vote. none of this is by happenstance that the aclu is suing him, that the league of women voters is suing him, the naacp and other black churches are suing him.
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it's not about me. it is about the voters in the state of ohio. >> joining me now, essentially to respond to yesterday's accusation, ohio's republican secretary of state, john husted joins me. nice to see you, sir. >> chuck, nice to be with you. >> well, let me just give you a chance to respond to your opponent's accusation there. >> well, there's a lot there. it's very interesting. we don't have election day in ohio, we have election month. you literally can vote without ever leaving home. we send everybody an absentee ballot request. they have a month to vote from home plus a month to vote in person at the local board of elections in 13 hours on election day at over 9,000 locations across the straight. we have actually done exactly what the aclu sent a letter to me in 2012 asking me to do. they literally said please,
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secretary of state, john husted, implement fair and uniform standards across the state of hai ohio, not different standards in 88 different counties as was the previous practice. we did that and two years later they filed a lawsuit asking to go back to the old system. >> let me ask you -- >> the bottom line is there a lot of people who doesn't want peace about this. the schedule that we're using right now literally was a bipartisan recommendation from democrats and republicans who run elections at the local level. >> i guess my question is is why did you make the decision to round down? you could have rounded up and said i want fair and uniform elections and the standard has been sunday, we're going to do these two sundays, expand the hours and make sure every voting jurisdiction has the hours. you could have rounded up and you decided to round down. >> that's not exactly -- >> why did you do that?
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>> that's not true, chuck. actually, the legislature shortened the early voting period. >> why are they rounding down? >> because of problems in a swing state like ohio. that's not me, chuck. that's the legislature. >> do you think they made a mistake? do you wish they didn't do that? >> what i want is a bipartisan solution. a partisan solution to these issues never is going to satisfy anybody. the only bipartisan solution on the table was a schedule that was given to us by the democrats and republicans who run the local elections. and what they wanted was a 28-day schedule that allowed saturdays and during presidential elections, chuck, we will have sundays. but there are 2 million fewer voters during these off-term elections and boards of elections wanted to have says and not sundays.
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>> i don't understand that decision and i understand, look, i know there are other states that do worse things but why should a voter have more access to the polls in a presidential year and not arguably in a year, in a mid-term year, and i understand the turnout differences but as far as a an ohio citizens are concerned, the mid-term elections are more important to their every day lives. go ahead. >> look at the facts. i'm fine with that. i'm fine with any of these proposals. there are hundreds of schedules you can use and have a fair system of elections. we have to look at where ohio sits compared to other states. new york you vote for one day. joe biden's delaware, one day. barack obama's illinois, 15 days. in ohio, we vote for a month. we have sunday voting. none of those states have sunday vote. we have saturday voting, they don't. i literally send every single voter in the state an absentee
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ballot request where they can vote for a month without leaving home. you can't argue that ohio somehow is trying to fit into this national narrative that the democrats want to say about us. we're doing a great job of making it easy to vote and hard to cheat here. people like senator turn aer do things like she voted to cancel friday voting and i had to defend the law that she voted for and then she complains i defended it. it's a bunch of hypocrisy. >> you talked about the bipartisan thing. i've been at ththinking about t for a while. i don't mean to undermine your job title. do you think the person who oversees elections of states in general that they shouldn't be a member of the political parties?
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it doesn't matter what a democratic secretary of state does, a republican is going to question that person's motives. >> in swing states, it's a very difficult job, there's no question about it because no matter what you do people are going to complain. but i would say -- there's two ways you can look at it. when it's an elected official, at least can you hold them accountable, at least you can publicly complain about me if i do something wrong and then i should be able to look at chuck todd and the rest of the people in america and ohio and explain what we're doing and why we're accountable. when you appoint somebody, then they send a hide behind the shield of, well, i was appointed or i'm not partisan and then they can act in partisan ways and there's no ways to hold them accountable. i'm perfectly fine with being held accountable, to go out and explain why we made it easy to vote and how to cheat in ohio and why that's working in america's most hotly contested swing state.
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>> you bring an important point, which is ohio has a lot more openness in voting than many states. thanks for coming on, secretary husted. we'll be watching. >> time for today's number in the data bank. 47. the number of days in maryland's gubernatorial primaries. democrats running for the state's top seat and one of the primaries will win the governor's chair, they share the stage in their first of three planned debates last night. it was moderated by my pal daufd gregory. anthony brown leading the field to replace martin o'malley. one of the main issues was the rollout of the state's botched health care exchange. >> up next, new details on another atrocity in nigeria allegedly carried out by the same group that kidnapped those school girls. plus is russia really retreating from ukraine or is putin playing
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for the search for the girls. canada and great britain are helping as well. michelle obama is joining the growing internet campaign. >> they have been daerelict, in my view, in protecting boys and girls over the last years. >> and president obama talked about it as well. >> we only need to look at today's headlines, the devastation in syria, the murders and kidnappings in nigeria, the sectarian conflicts, the tribal conflicts, to see that we have not yet extinguished man's darkest
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impulses. there are some bad stories out there that are being told to children, and they're learning to hate early. they're learning to fear those who are not like them early. >> nigerian police are now of r offering a $300,000 reward for information that leads to the rescue of the school girls. >> now to eastern ukraine. there are new signs that vladimir putin may -- emphasis on may -- no longer be calling the shots for the insurgency. the referendum would give the region more independence from kiev and could be a step toward joining the russian federation but it's not sure if the insurgency's pockets of control are signs of movement broad enough to pass the measure. at the same time, vladimir putin
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is giving lip service to deescalation but hasn't backed it up. he promised his troops would pull back from the ukrainian border. american international officials say they have yet to see the actual pullback and they say putin needs to do more to ease this crisis. keir simmons is live in donetsk. is putin saying he doesn't want the referendum publicly but private live he does but wants distance here? what's going on here? >> reporter: that's what everyone is asking themselves and inevitably with president putin, every time he makes a move, everyone gets subjected into the analysis and trying to figure out exactly what he is up to. as you mentioned, what's really perplexing is for him to announce that the military are pulling back from the border and then for that to be visibly clear according to the west anyway, that russia isn't doing that. and at the same time to make
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this announcement he wants these separatists here to delay the referendum and for them to then say, well, we don't want to do that, when they are pro-russian, when we always considered them to be very close to russia. we've seen the ballot papers, chuck, and they very clearly say that this is a republic, eastern ukraine, and it should be independent. it's very clear what they are asking for in this vote on sunday. the question, as you say, has putin lost control or is all this just tactics? chuck? >> keir simmons, we'll be finding that out. there's a new survey that claims a large majority of ukrainians want to keep ukraine ukraine. up next, what senate leader harry reid will and won't say about who should be the nominee for 2016. a more tdr right after the break.
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back now with another number from today's data bank, 195. that's the number of iowans who get a surprise visit from vice president biden in d.c. last night. why iowa, you might ask? the v.p. showed up unexpectedly for a greater des moines partnership on their visit to washington to lobby members of congress. the vice president made headlines in september when he attended senator tom harkin's annual steak fry fund-raiser in the hawk eye state, which of course brings us to 2016, which is something now with more of my exclusive interview with senate majority leader harry reid. reid, by the way, a ruthless campaigner in public and behind the scenes, we know of his early urging for barack obama to run in 2008. is he eager to get back into the
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trenches in 2016. i asked him about his political future for himself and who he thinks is on the short list for the white house? >> you going to run again in 2016? >> sure. >> what would make you not run? >> that's very -- >> more personal? >> yeah. >> 2016, who do you want to share the ballot with? who do you want on the top of the ticket in nevada representing the democrats? >> i think it's pretty clear we have democrats that are viable and i think the republicans, unless they change, they change, they can't elect a president. they've done everything to dump on women, they've done everything to dump on hispanics, african-americans, asians, gay and lesbians. who else have i left off? >> is there a republican candidate you fear for the republicans that you think could win? >> i would hope that newt gingrich would run. i'm scared to death of him.
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>> you say that with tongue in cheek. in all seriousness, who do you think would be their strongest candidate? >> i don't see anybody out there. >> on the democratic side, you didn't mention any names. >> i'm not going to. i have a few names. everyone knows i love the clintons. i won't see more. including chelsea. >> do you think there should be a healthy primary process? >> rarely do i think primaries are healthy? >> is that right? you don't think they're good for democrats? >> for anybody. >> why is that? >> why go to all the trouble? it would nice to have people anointed -- i'm being facetious. >> i thought you were. you think it would be better for hillary clinton if she has a serious democratic rival? >> i believe the primary with obama and clinton was an
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extremely healthy process. i think it was portfolwonderful. people learned about these two people -- >> you were a big proponent of barack obama in 2008, not to say you weren't saying nice things about hillary clinton, and you did. what about her -- is she -- is she prepared to be a better candidate today because of '08? >> i did not campaign for either one of them. >> i know that. but do you believe cease a better candidate today? >> than she was? >> yes. >> sure. being secretary of state, what a terribly difficult, difficult job. and even her critics said that she did a wonderful job as secretary of state. >> do you have any advice for her in what she should do to not make some of the -- to not trip up -- >> it wouldn't be saying much about me if i were to give the clintons any political advice. >> why not? >> because they wrote the book on it. >> you think they're the best in the business on your side of the aisle? >> i think they've shown that
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they're really good. you know, we do a lot of the things -- i do a lot of the things that i learned from the clintons. >> tomorrow on the show, i'll bring you more of my interview with senator reid, including his full explanation of why he believes all billionaires are not alike. his attack on the koch brothers and his defense of billionaire sheldon adelman. >> the house senate committee issued a subpoena between general shinseki and -- some vets waited more than a year for care and some died while waiting. several members of congress and veterans organizations are calling for the secretary to
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resign. >> up next, a little southern exposure. congressman jim clyburn will be here next. but before the break, our tdr soup of the day takes us to the rock 'n' roll of fame in cleveland. they're not serving soup, they're serving chilli. is chilli soup. we'll be back. have an impact locally. we're using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. the trucks are reliable, that's good for business. but they also reduce emissions, and that's good for everyone. it makes me feel very good about the future of our company. ♪
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feel personal. clyburn says clinton minimized the win as it was a black southern event. the former president explained hillary's loss by saying "jesse jackson won south carolina in '84 and '88 and obama ran a good campaign here." he says the presidential reelection proved that the primary was not a black or southern event. representative clyburn believes the climate is changing. his book is titled "blessed experiences, genuinely southern, proudly black." i'm joined by congressman james clyburn. i'm going to quickly get through this clinton thing because i know you talked about it a lot. you saw hillary clinton's
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reaction to hillary running. people that expected obama over clinton, do you think you were the only one that got a rough phone call from bill clinton when that happened? >> i doubt that very seriously. >> you think that's left some scar tissue? >> well, i think so. there are a lot of people who are not allowing the party to get beyond that. >> you think that's still there? >> with some people. >> donors, fund-raisers, people like that ? >> i don't think the clintons. i've had conversation with hillary clinton, i've talked to bill clinton several times. >> the word is of all the people who have gotten over it, hillary clinton has gotten it over with the easiest. >> she was great to have breakfast with the secretary of state. my wife there was. we had a great time. i like her a whole lot.
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i hope she runs. >> you're saying i'm proudly southern and i'm proudly back. i look at southern politics today and tell me why the south isn't segregated the same as it was before. it seems, okay, you have your black congressional seats and your white congressional seats. it feels somewhat it is not a unified south these days. >> well, there's a lot of unity in the south. there's not a lot of unianimity in the south. i separate the two. when i was coming along, it was zero. in 1970 when i first ran for office, there was absolutely no blacks serving in the legislature. so we've gone from zero and we've made some significant forward steps. but when you have this taking place, when everybody's on the outside, then you're unified.
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but then when one or two get in, it means that some are left out. that causes other kinds of political considerations to come into play. and so the is going through some growing pain, the pendulum goes back and forth and it's now moving a little more to the right than it was moving 20 years ago. >> are you concerned, particularly in the south that whites vote disproportionately republican now almost in the -- in some cases, and some states and mississippi, south carolina and alabama are three of them and almost in this great of numbers that blacks vote for the democrats that it is that racially polarized. >> yes, it is. i do believe we'll work through that. remember, during the '50s and '60s when we were sitting in and trying to pass civil rights laws. we had that polarization.
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we got through it. '64, '65, '72 and then things began to move harmoniously and now things are drifting back. >> is this a generational thing? do you think we need one more generation? >> it is generational. >> let me ask you about benghazi there seems to be a split in the leadership. >> we should not. >> you want a boycott? >> yes. we've had four hearings. four in the house and one independent and ben himself one month ago, just one month ago said we should not be doing this. we should not have a select complity and we should not be disrupting the work that has been done. so what happened all of a sudden? all of a sudden the tea party has flexed his muscle. >> they found a new email that the white house disclosed. that's what they would say. have a press conference, disclose it and go forward.
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you don't need to have a hearing if you've got the evidence, why are we having a hearing? >> with that. i will leave it it there. >> the book. blessed experiences. make sure you're getting it on amazon. >> it was republican robert taft who is the first and only ohioan to serve as majority leader of the senate congratulations to koby nelson. we'll be right back. if i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing i've learned is
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take control of the redskins name. have you had a conversation with dan snider and have you tried to convince him personally to make this change? >> no. i don't know the man. i don't know him at all. i do believe i have 22 tribal organizations, and snyder, like he does everything, ryes to buy them off. >> did he do that in your state some. >> sure. yeah. and after i made this statement they were supposed to go pick it up at the new car dealer. >> he bought them cars? >> i don't know. >> i only know of one. >> there's the allegation that harry reid's claiming that dan snyder, for at least one tribe in nevada bought a car in order to get their support on not changing the name. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." it will raise a few eyebrows in the district. coming up next is chris jansing. i'll see you tomorrow.
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right now senators getting their first look to replace kathleen sebelius in health and human services. how will republicans react to her rollout. >> the gop is still fund-raising off that deadly attack one day after the head of the new select committee said they shouldn't. >> and stand his ground. congress subpoenas the secretary of veterans affairs this morning who for now says he will not step down over allegations that vets died while waiting for health care. good morning. i'm chris jansing. the worldwide protest over hundreds of missing nigerian school girls is growing. rallies planned today in denver and los angeles and then you have this from the first lady. the front page of conservative "new york post," there she shows the #bring back our girls and she also tweeted our prayers are with the missing nigerian girls and their families and it's time for