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but we dug down deep and lost our game. . . but, but, but we also had portugal win in a different game by not by a lot. we are number ! we're number two! we're number two! >> all right. that is one way of looking at it. good morning, everyone! it is friday, june 27th. >> happy, happy friday! >> last friday in june! >> can you believe it? >> no. >> i cannot believe we are halfway through the year! >> we are in summer. we are in summer. is that it? >> it's one of those days, i don't know why, but i always look, you know, wake up and it's june 30th and i panic. half the year is gone! there's so much to do! >> paraphrase ray donovan. where do i go to get my june back? >> we already had the longest day of the year and that always
gets me, summer solstace. >> my favorite day of the year is december 21st. >> the darkest day? >> i know every day i wake up it will be lighter every day. >> so beautiful on the show right there. >> with us on set, senior political editor of the huffington post, sam stein. >> i've always wanted to go to st. petersburg, russia. because i've heard, what is it? the white palace or whatever? that the light when it hits it, you know, it stays light until like 10:00 or 11:00. >> we will have to consider "morning joe" live there next year. >> mark halpern is here with us.
>> st. petersburg, florida, or st. petersburg, russia? >> russia. dude, i so want to go to iceland. >> also in washington, pulitzer prize winner and associate editor of "the washington post," msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. good morning, good morning, good morning. >> john heilemann is also with us. >> stockholm is spectacular. white nights. >> it's stunning. >> 23 hours of light. >> light at midnight. >> everyone out on the street drunk, 24 hours a day. >> i don't remember that. >> can i ask gene a question? gene, you know a little bit about what we continental types call foot-ball.
did you see all of the whining yesterday from people who don't like soccer? oh, you lose and you win? oh, wait. i don't understand it! like, these are the same people that follow hockey where you have every team get into the playoffs, despite the fact they have a 14-87 record. with all due respect to ron fournier, i love you, ron, but you still make the nhl playoffs. don't intentionally, ron, please -- and somebody wrote a column about it yesterday. i talk about stupidity down in mississippi where the guy is too stupid to figure out how to win an election he should have won. i will not talk about people who are too stupid to realize this happens in american sports all of the time. nfl. go ahead. >> to a much greater extent.
you know, just back up and what it takes to get there, to be one of the teams playing on the world stage for the world cup is incredible. and to get through the group stage is remarkable. it's a remarkable achievement. these are the rules and this is the way it works and on to portugal. >> group plays like the regular season, you get everybody together it's the regular season and now you get to the playoffs of this. >> the playoffs. >> i thought it was fun. >> i thought it was great fun. what an exciting game. the u.s. almost had a chance to draw germany. you can't overstate it. we got into here and we had the group of death, the number three team in the world and the number four team in the world in our group of death and a really great ghana team. the fact we got through this is insane. klinsmann said he didn't think we would get through and roger bennett didn't think we would get through. i didn't meet a single person who thought we would get through
but we got through out of this group of death. >> but after three games of group play the 23 men representing the united states and brazil have proven us wrong. tim howard had another stellar game in goal shutting down a fierce german attack that controlled the field of the play nearly 70% of the game. we are going to talk to him live. >> no, we are not! >> yes, we are. >> no, we are not! >> it's exciting, isn't it? >> huge. >> thomas muller's goal was the deciding factor. even in defeat, the u.s. moves on to the group of 16 based on goal differential. they have captured the attention of the entire nation but now the tournament really begins. the u.s. plays belgium on tuesday and then if they can win that game, they will likely face argentina and lionel messi in the quarterfinals. we watched yesterday with gary hopkins. >> the rest of the "morning joe"
family. let's bring in the director of city soccer in the community. gary hopkins. meek didn't flip a table. i almost did at the end. we were clearly outclassed yesterday. we were exhausted and it has to do with where we played before. but at the end of the day, we get through and we're going to be playing belgium on tuesday. you know, there aren't a lot of people saying that we don't have a good chance. >> this is colossal. after england and portugal gone home and spain and italy have gone home and the u.s. have qualified through. >> that's amazing. >> it's amazing when you look at those. you never thought that at the beginning of the tournament. this team has traveled all over brazil, farther than any other team and playing in another city the day before. they just keep defying the odds and keep battling and battling and pulling out results. it wasn't perfect or great or
the perfect performance. but klinsmann has always said this team has heart in it and they battle. group play in the world cup is about one thing and getting out of the group, i don't care what you do, scratch, kick, claw, not bite, but get out of the group and exactly what the u.s. did. a big boy tournament. this is a world series, a super bowl, all rolled into one. nothing bigger in the world of soccer than this tournament and you come to play and the usa is shocking the world and not in a beautiful performance but in a great determination. we're in the round of 16 now. it's winner take all in those games. who knows what can happen. >> of course, you've just got to say the star of this show is jurgen klinsmann. how this guy has taken an american team that nobody gaf a chance to and i absolutely love clint dempsey. that guy is texas tough! he is built texas tough! i love clint dempsey. he is my hero.
>> and, joe, tim howard. >> tim howard, unbelievable! >> it's all about goal different sh ial. the reason we are going to play belgium is because of tim howard. if not for him, we would be going home. >> somebody said tim howard is one of the five, six best goalkeepers in the world and there are a lot of skeptical, you know, skeptical comments but, gary, certainly in this tournament, on the biggest stage, i haven't seen many, other than the mexican goalkeep goalkeeper. >> he is crazy great. >> other than the mexican goalkeeper, i haven't seen many do better than tim howard. >> tim has huge respect from everybody in the world of soccer. but put in perspective. you take that jerm team in the open market a value of $300 million and portugal a value of
$300 or 400 million. usa being generous probably $30 to$40 million max. this team believes it's been prepared to win games and they never go into the game and not into the belgium game thinking they are the underdog even though the rest of the world does. look at the germany game yesterday. dead on their feet for most of the dagame and didn't perform well. the last minute of the game clint dempsey could have scored a goal. it's going to be phenomenal when they play belgium. >> i can't wait. >> tuesday. >> i'm going to watch. >> american productivity, at least for a day, we stop being the most productivity country in the world. it goes down again and plunges. >> now we play against the
belgiums. >> they eat chocolate. >> another change to have irish nachos again. news to cover this morning. president bill clinton is reprizing his role as a defender of president obama in an exclusive interview with david gregory this weekend on "meet the press." >> the former vice president dick cheney said president obama in an op-ed, that claims that al qaeda is decimated, is clearly not true. in fact, al qaeda is on the march. the argument that america is less safe than with president obama. do you believe dick cheney is credible on these matters? >> well, i believe, you know, if they hadn't gone to war in iraq, none of this would be happening. >> it wouldn't be happening in syria? it wouldn't be -- terrorist --
>> what happened in syria wouldn't have happened in iraq. iraq would not have been, in effect, drastically altered as it has been, but mr. cheney has been incredibly adrought for the last six years or so attacking the administration for not doing an adequate job of cleaning up the mess that he made. i think it's unseemly -- and i give president bush, by the way, a lot of credit for trying to stay out of this debate and letting other people work through it. >> all right. so now -- >> i'm reading something, by the way, from june 23rd, 2004. i just googled it. a cnn story. former president bill clinton says he continues to support president bush's decision to go to war in iraq. i have repeatedly defended president bush against the left in iraq. so there you go. >> different bill clinton. >> that was a different bill
clinton. >> regoogle. >> no. >> same bill. >> bill clinton this year and, of course, when it became much less popular, he stopped defending it but this is what the left, it's collective amnesia on the left. >> there were 23 senators in all who voted against the war authorization and hillary clinton was not one of them' chuck schumer was not one of them. bill clinton was a defender of the iraq war authorization and it hurts his credibility to make these articles. you still be critical of the execution of the war. >> you certainly can. i would put myself in that category. i supported -- i, like, 70% of americans, i believe -- >> this is the story of the '08 primary. hillary clinton was critical of the war execution but in the end, she couldn't get over it because barack obama had made that speech and i think this is still a problem for her. >> let's be clear. if both cases, not to doubt
president clinton's sincerity in either place. in 2004, he was effectively defending his wife's position by being supportive of george w. bush and now as we get -- head towards 2016 he is making comments with advantages of his wife. >> he is loyal in that aspect of it all. speaking of clinton's. they have tons of money. did you see? they have a lot more money than we thought they had. >> how much do they have? >> mika is about to tell us. >> so i'll just end the story there by saying that dick cheney fired back with a personal attack so it's just -- the whole thing is unseemly to use both of their words. >> totally retro. >> totally retro. >> let's not talk about impeachment, please. let's not talk about wmds.
>> 1980s debating the cold war. let's move forward. >> it's hard because the past keeps coming back to haunt us. i wonder if there a new player on the 2016 landscape at some point, something that is refreshing. >> there is elizabeth warren talk is coming! >> honestly. anybody. please, please! i don't want to say the name bush, clinton. i don't want to say these -- >> you want to stop thinking about tomorrow? >> aren't we kind -- aren't you noticing kind of an exhaustion factor? i engage people when talking about politics. >> talk about retro. >> what is new and what is the message on either side? nothing! >> new cast on "the view" coming. >> that's true! at least they get the point! >> politics hard reins is going
to fall. >> going to fall. >> it really is. the exhaustion. the collective exhaustion of the bush and clinton dynasty. it is going to exhaust the american electorate. i think something big is going to happen. >> do you? >> i do. >> you're making fun of me. both bill clinton and hillary clinton are saying they were dead broke when they left the white house. >> they were. >> they were in debt. that happens to a lot of families. especially -- but it comes back quickly is the issue. a new -- they know it's coming to they don't need to say. financial struggles didn't last long. the former president gave his first paid speech two weeks after leaving office and he hasn't stopped since. between january 2001 and 2013 bill clinton paid nearly $11 million for 542 speeches. >> t.j. goes, that isn't bad. >> i'd do it for half of that. >> that is decent.
they have high overhead. >> a high burn rate. >> the amount of time he spends preparing for those speeches. >> wait a second. that's what i love. sam, the next part of it is really the bigger part of it. more than half of those came from events -- not overseas. i thought it was going to say something else. a single speech in hong kong netted clinton $167,000. this is the part of the story i think cause democratic donors problem. here at home the largest spenders were the big banks on wall street and the financial services. you look $20 million from wall street speeches. they are close in the community. i know what hillary clinton was saying when she said we are not really that rich. what she was saying is she hangs out with billionaires on wall street who pay 14% tax rates.
they are probably paying, i don't know, maybe they are paying in the 30s or maybe the 20s or the 30s tax rates like that. that it's just -- i'm sorry. that is disconnected when you don't think you're that rich because the billionaires that you hang out with all the time are paying 14% tacks. >> how do you take those people to task if you've taken millions and millions of dollars? >> i remember we did a story in '08 about bill clinton speeches. he had given a speech to some group in south america he promoted the columbia free trade deal and it was for $4 hundred,000 or on something like that. it was a big deal because his wife was against the columbia free trade deal and these are the conflicts that really tripped her up. which is that her husband's post white house financial career were creating conflicts of interest for her presidential campaign. it's not just you come off as wealthy and you saying you're not. it's you have these financial conflicts of interest that can
tug at you and make you conflicted on the campaign. >> when you think about twix, since we are looking at hillary that way, i just wonder. we have seen in the obama presidency how hard it is to lift up a middle class. that's been one of their themes. the income divide, the divide between rich and poor has gotten worse. wages haven't gone up in years. this is what this president has wanted to do. hillary clinton is tied to all of these banks and wall streeters and different money players. how would she make a difference? what would she be able to do that would actually help the middle class american? >> well, you know, we will have to see. we will have to hear. >> no, really? are we going to see and find out the hard way? >> hear what she has to say. but, you know, i mean, this whole discussion illustrates why i think people are so exhausted with politics. and sort of, you know, slouching
toward 2016 without a lot of enthusiasm. i think there's -- people question -- you know, who is going to fix this? who is going to speak for the middle class? and not just speak for the middle class, you know, not just throw out a bunch of rhetoric but propose policies and a change of direction that really would help the middle class in this country. you know, yes, there will be skepticism that, you know, former first lady and former secretary of state whose family earned $100 million over the last few years is down with the people. >> president obama took a lot of money from wall street too. >> my point, john, is that nothing really good has happened for the middle class in a presidency that has made a theme of the middle class. >> but he made a theme in the middle class despite taking a
lot of money from wall street. you can advocate policies good for the middle class even if you take money from the banks. >> having people on the left, though, been critical he hasn't been tough enough on wall street? >> absolutely. >> they have. >> okay. >> i'm saying is mika is pointing out president obama have been pursuing policies in favor of the middle class. >> who is saying that? >> mika just said that. >> she said the opposite. >> mika said president obama has pursued policies in favor of the middle class, right? >> he has tried to. >> he pursued those policies having taken money from wall street banks. >> my point taken it's hard to get done and hillary clinton would only double down on those problems having a mixed relationship with wall street, one in which she has received money for working for them and then she is going to try to take them on ian make things fairer for the american people? i don't think it's possible. >> i think it is. >> really? >> well, no. >> she has received money. >> listen. >> millions and millions of dollars. >> there is an old saying in washington that i can't repeat on tv. but if you can be bout off by a
check from, you know, a wall street bank, then you don't have the character to be -- >> what is the saying? go for it. >> if you can't eat their food. >> i got you. >> and drink their wine. >> the clinton's have fought for the middle class for decades. they have. i mean, they have. you can say what you want about conflict of interest or hypocrisy but they fought for the middle class for decade. >> i thought hillary clinton in the 2008 campaign was the most vocal on advocate on the democratic side for the middle class and working class. >> other than john edwards. >> but doesn't she blunt this criticism her being out of touch and wealthy but putting up policies that go after wall street and capital gains tax and that type of thing? >> i would love to hear that. maybe it's in her book. wait. >> you're gracious. >> you all are not telling the
truth and we are talking about this the next few years, maybe, maybe? let's listen area hear what the message is. >> time machine back to arkansas 1970s and 1980s. >> i'll do one more story. i'm spicy morning. >> we have a lot to talk about coming up. internal revenue service commissioner, we will talk about more eruptions on capitol hill the fact this big democratic donor finds himself in the middle of -- well, a very tough scandal on capitol hill about the possible targeting of republicans. hey, did you guys do a check? has "the new york times" or "the washington post" or any of the broadcast networks mentioned, alex, that the irs commissioner is a big democratic donor and contributed? >> i looked online. >> we did a preliminary search. not that we can find from "the washington post" or "the new york times." >> the current irs commissioner?
>> the current irs commissioner in the middle of the scandal about destroying e-mails is contributing to democrats. reportedly no republicans. all democrats. contributed to barack obama twice. contributed to the democratic party. i just find it curious. again, over a hundred thousand dollars. i find this very curious. >> just under a hundred thousand dollars. >> joe rounded it up. >> that's why i'm a politician. again, asking this question that we love to ask right here is if george w. bush's irs commissioner was a big fat cat republican donor and his irs targeted democrats and then they started asking questions and e-mails were destroyed, i'm just curious if "the new york times" would have written a big article about that. >> i'm sure not. still ahead on "morning joe." >> seems totally irrelevant to the conversation.
>> i love "the new york times." "the new york times" or "the washington post," would abc and nbc and cbs. >> a giant photograph of the guy's picture and a dotted line. >> and web of it and pictures of richard nixon and every other republican he contributed to. >> g. gordon libby on his christmas card. >> that graph. >> exactly. >> it would have been the joe rickets thing. they would have loved it. yet we can't find a single administration that the irs commissioner stuck in the middle of this scandal about targeting president obama's opponents is actually a big democratic donor. >> "the new york times" assignment desk is all over this right now as of this moment. they are on it. >> i find it extraordinarily curious. as i said the other day, bias doesn't come in what you cover. it comes in what you do not cover. >> and in the mindset. >> yes, that's fair.
>> he has revolutionized the industry. >> that sounds a little creep aye. gopro makes a splash on wall street in his first day of trading. what that means for the future of consumer electronics. big news for the ladies of "the view." >> what? >> shake-up. >> i don't get it. let's say next season, whoopi goldberg may be talking to herself. first, speaking of talking to herself. sometimes i see him just kind of walking around like this talking to himself and just doing this. >> what do i do with my hand? what is this? >> almost time for whobner! >> okay, bill. tell us we are going to have a great weekend. >> joe, six weekends in a row in new york city and new england with sunshine and dry weather. we are in an incredible stretch. >> my kids are going to be so
happy. >> unbelievable. all of the problems are in the middle of the country. we continue to watch the midwest with the flooding. we have a bunch of severe weather down in texas. yesterday, we had a tornado in galveston county, texas, did a little bit of damage. there are some pictures of it. it wasn't horrendous but if that is your house you're not feeling happy about that twister yesterday. the flooding up in minnesota continues. here is the problem. more rain on the way. it's raining off and off the next three to four days across the upper plains. the mississippi river is already flooding and now it's going to go down even slower because of the heavy rain this weekend. here is your friday forecast taking you into the last june weekend. warm and dry in the east and typically thunderstorms in the southeast. it's in the midwest will have severe weather. another round of strong storms on saturday. minneapolis to kansas, chicago and also st. louis. finally your sunday. you'll notice the eastern u.s. is looking fantastic and look how hot it gets next week. july, we are going to be starting out with very hot conditions. 90s, near a hundred for many of
papers. the "chicago tribune," over 1,000 chicago public school employees are being laid off including 550 teachers. officials didn't say which schools would be impacted, just that one-third of schools would lose teachers. teachers are encouraged to reapply for new positions that would begin this fall. from the "atlanta journal-constitution." a new report fines 1 in 10 beaches are now unsafe for swimmers as shore lines across the country are feeling the epa's new testing procedures. the agency says 3.5 million people get sick from
contaminated waters each year and study based on water samples from the eastern west coast and gulf coast. >> gopro shares is the largest ipo by a consumer electronics company in two decades. they gave the company a market value of nearly $4 billion. almost equal to domino's pizza. the ceo who started the company ten years ago owns 48% of the company's stock valid at 1.6 billion. "the new york times" former new york city mayor michael bloomberg's controversial sugary drink ban is dead. >> unbelievable. >> the highest court ruled against reinstating the 16-ounce soft drink limit. sugary drinks linked to obesity. mayor de blasio is extreme
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okay here we go. members of congress are blasting the irs over claims lois lerner's hard drive had crashed rendering many e-mails lost. >> then they threw it away after that. i guess you had a "wall street journal" story yesterday that said what? >> said technical experts believe the hard drive is not recycled. you have a chance to get data off of it if it appears to be erased. >> some are calling for a super
prosecutor. despite haul thall that the irs commissioner says it's too early to call for a criminal probe. >> the fact that lois lerner's e-mails disappeared and she pled the fifth that looks awful. i think everybody will agree the appearance is awful. >> i think it's a serious matter. i've been around washington a long time and whenever it's not -- >> potentially criminal? >> i don't know whether it's criminal or not but certainly we need to get to the bottom of it. >> worthy of a criminal investigati investigation? >> i don't think so at this time there is any evidence of that. if miss lern rer w-- they were wrote that we provided. >> i don't understand any of this. >> while in minneapolis yesterday, president obama blamed the culture of washington and tv for elevating issues of less relevance. >> sometimes the news that is coming off, these are just washington fights.
they are fabricated issues and it's all geared toward the next election or ginning up a base. it's not on the level. and that must feel frustrating and it makes people cynical and it makes people turned off from the idea that anything can get done. >> the irs -- >> hold on. >> what? what? >> joe is going to imitate that mystery theater style. >> is he calling this a phony scandal, mark halpern? >> he didn't explicitly refer to the irs so maybe not. >> whatever scandals are swirling on the front of no major newspapers? >> it's not on the level to what the people he is talking to. want to have dealt with. >> look at the polls. they say if the president is
talking about the irs scandal he is living it in a bunker in nixon style. the fact is that americans are concerned that the internal revenue service can destroy e-mails or have e-mails destroyed and instead of getting tech experts to come in and retrieve those e-mails, you throw the hard drive away. you throw the computer away. you look at the polls not just the fox news poll but overwhelming majority of americans think there needs to be an investigation and thinks that this stinks to high heavens, especially since the guy that is running the irs is a big democrat irdonor. >> i think the president's general point is true and part of our problem with our political culture now. you look what he is saying and the head of the irs is saying they don't seem to have a zeal to get to the bottom of what happened. they have a zeal to try to make it go away. >> it's also the pileup, joe. >> democrats on capitol hill who especially are running for election, need to aggressively get out in front of this.
you know, they took too long to get out in front of the v.a. scandal. they dragged their feet. you can look at the time line. when they realized, wait, this is a real scandal, then, suddenly, they all went out and they are doing the same thing with the irs scandal and the same thing is going to happen again. why do democrats feel compelled to defend this sort of behavior by the internal revenue service? >> look. i don't think democrats are defending it and i believe that democrats were asking questions as well. >> they don't have the zeal. >> i do think the culture in washington, to what the president was talking about and i'm not trying to defend him but you think the republicans going after recess appointment and suing the president for executive orders, the president before him, bush had more at this time in his presidency and now this. they are just pounding away at everything like jack russell's grabbing on to someone's pant leg. >> like with george w. bush and with bill clinton. >> tell me what they are working
on and getting done? nothing! >> this is your answer to an irs scandal. >> no. >> where the internal revenue service targeted groups that were in poopopposition of the administration and when people started asking questions the e-mails got destroyed. you can go back to the beginning of the process. then they destroy the computers. >> i think the democrats and republicans are -- >> maybe i can put a ribbon on this discussion. >> -- very concerned about it. >> i think the point you can use a scandal for good or you can use it for powership. i think the scandal is -- democrats were late to it but when they jumped on it, what happened they produced a bill in the senate, they are conferencing in the house that basically puts both parties ideas together how to improve the situation and if that bill were to go through and give more money to v.a. hospitals and hire more doctors and cut bureaucratic red cape and that is the constructive fix to scandal i think you're talking
about. >> it would be good -- >> back to the irs, though. >> can i just say really quickly and then i'll go to you. >> yes. >> the irs this week, also this doesn't help. they are paying $50,000 to a conservative national organization that supports traditional marriage because they decided to release the name and the list of the contributors to that which is just absolutely unbelievable. nonprofit group says the irs admits to being responsible, despite the fact they didn't tell the truth earlier and said they weren't responsible. then the commissioner of the irs himself as we have said donated nearly 100,000 to democrats over four decades going back to gary hart in '79. he has donated more than $7,000 to barack obama's campaigns. gene, on and on and on. >> look. first of all, nobody likes the irs. so the irs is a perfect target
for scandal. i think when the final analysis, when we get to the end of this, i will bet you that there is nothing there. i don't think there is anything there. i think -- >> you may be right but we won't know that, will we? >> let me finish. i bet there is nothing there, that will find, as has been reported, that they targeted liberal groups as well as conservative groups and there was no grand conspiracy. however, given that it's the irs, given the destruction of the hard drives, clearly, i think it's in the interests of the democratic party and the administration to get to the bottom of it and i think there should be -- i think more interest in getting to the bottom of it. where i think there is nothing. you know, i think it's an empty
pit at the end of the day. >> i have one question for you, though. the only thing i can't wrap my head around why lois lerner sent contemporaneous e-mails when her hard drive was destroyed asking her i.t. people to help her restore it? that is the only thing i have trouble figuring out in this conspiracy theory. you're laughing. >> i'm laughing because the last thing you do if you want to retrieve the e-mails is throw them away. you can back to the ice age. i remember people telling me in the early 1990s if it's on the hard drive, it stays on the hard drive. and if -- the only way to get it off the hard drive is to go out and get a sledge hammer and destroy it. you can retrieve it. go to -- wait. what is that? nerd squad? >> geek squad? >> go to geek squad and they will tell you that. you do not have to go to silicon valley to figure out what we all have known for 25, 30 years. they could have gotten the
e-mails back if they wanted to get the e-mails back. according to everything that we all have been told for a quarter of a century. >> mention the passing of a great man, howard baker, as a republican, a republican president what did he know and when did he know it? nobody in congress like that today who challenges the president or their own party when there is real questions to be asked. >> howard baker, a great man. and he'll be missed. >> i always thought this was the geek squad. >> no. >> we are the dork squad. still ahead, apple and google rule much of the tech world but watch out for amazon. how the jeff bezos company is analyzing your behavior and maximizing its profits. we will be right back. ♪ she keeps you on your toes.
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name but the company has never stopped driven by jeff bezos. >> he piles money back into the company. for this guy, it's just all about pushing, pushing, changing. it's -- steve jobs and a lot of these tech guys get a lot more positive press and glittery and glamorous, but this guy has really changed the way we live. >> he has. no doubt about it and he is not going to stop. he is 50 years old and he is completely engaged. obviously, he has got a lot of other interests too, including "the washington post" but he only spends about an hour a week on that, i'm told. >> a big fight with book sellers. explain what is going on there. >> a couple of years ago, a few years ago, you had the justice department actually come out in amazon's favor and say the book sellers were colluding with each other to keep digital prices higher than they should. the deals came up and they are broadly now trying to negotiate
a new deal with amazon. amazon pressed their advantage as much as they possibly can. not any different in a way walmart would in terms of giving you shelf space if you're a supplier but it's, obviously, come out into the open. it's an ugly fight where they are more or less making it impossible to buy a james patterson book or even steve king or j.k. rouling bowling bo >> how this rthey doing turning a profit? >> the key question with amazon. in his first shareholder letter in 1997 he attaches to every shareholder letter since then i'm going going after the future cash flows and not the reported earnings and not the bottom line after everything. they haven't. and they don't. so trades at this incredible multiple to earns as we say but investors have been happy because they have always generated the significant revenue growth of this company and that is, i think been the key. >> are they making money? >> not a lot, not a lot. as joe said, they invest a great
deal and there are many believers. in that way, bezos is different than many other ceos he has a great group of investors willing to wait and say we believe all of these investments will pay off in enormous earnings down the road. >> how does he treat his work he's at the warehouse? >> workers can walk as much as 15 miles a day. it's warehouse work. it's hard but certainly there have been other reports that we go into as well of them not having air-conditioning which they have now put in and people passing out. you can't really take breaks and we talked to a number of those workers. like everything they push as much as they possibly can. amazon say we have one of the best safety records in the industry compared to warehouse work. nonetheless it is certainly an area at least they have been open to criticism and criticism is something building a bit both
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home after he is a biter. >> every picture of him has his teeth. >> fifa handed suarez its stiffest penalty ever for an offense at the world cup. he was banned from any soccer related activity four months and fined 400,000. is that going to stop, this whave behavior? >> fans are flocking to this poster of suarez which is a popular place. what in the world? >> that is funny. unless you're a liverpool fan or a uruguay fan. let his entire country down. he is going to miss nine matches in the premier league and three champions league matches. >> how does that happen? >> it was all worth it. >> it was delicious! >> mascot for chick-fil-a. >> what is wrong with him? coming up at the top of the hour, the man in u.s. goal.
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playing in the last 16, even though there is no reward today. >> i have complete faith the u.s. will take it all the way. >> usa! >> usa, like you, i've been bitten hard by the soccer bug, almost known as luis suarez. >> are the first pick, the cleveland cavaliers select andrew wiggins. president obama is asking congress $500,000 to train and arm the rebel fighters in syria. white house says the rebels would be vetted before giving them assistance. >> the administration is running around saying we don't have a terrorist problem in when reality it's a bigger problem than ever. >> if they will not gone to war in iraq, none of this would be happening. >> supreme court limited the president's power to make political appointments. >> without senate approval unless congress is out of session for ten days or more. actor la buff in police custody after escorted from a
provide show. >> if we didn't know who he was, we assumed he was a bum. >> okay. >> that didn't go well. >> welcome back to "morning joe." mark halpern is still with us. joining us from washington is moderator of "meet the press," david gregory and here on the set is ben smith. >> didn't give the united states much of a chance to get out of the so-called group of death. you know soccer better than anybody. >> exactly, i do. >> roger bennett didn't. jurgen klinsmann didn't. >> gary hopkins didn't. >> nobody. people that know soccer said we had no shot. >> tim howard will be on. after three games of group play, 23 men representing the united states and brazil have proven us wrong. tim howard had another stellar game in goal shutting down a fierce german attack that controlled the game in 70% of play. talk to him live in a few minutes. muller's goal in the 55th minute
was the deciding factor in the match but ronaldo would bail the united states out for beating ghana. even in defeat the u.s. moves on based on goal differential. they have captured the attention of the entire nation but now the tournament really begins. the u.s. plays belgium on tuesday. if they win, they face argentina and lionel messi in the quarterfinals. >> incredible game yesterday. >> incredible for the country and great for soccer. the further the u.s. goes, the better it's going to be and will be great to see what the ratings is like for the game on tuesday at 4:00 eastern time and could build a big audience. >> you heard it here first. >> sam stein said it. now we are doomed for sure. >> bill and hillary clinton said they were dead broke leaving the white house but a new analysis shows those financial struggles didn't last long. the former president gave his
first paid speech two weeks after leaving office and he haen stopped since. between january of 2001 and january of 2013, bill clinton was paid nearly $150 million for 542 speeches and more than half of those earnings from events overseas and many in china. in 2011 a single speech in hong kong netted clinton 750 grand. here at home the largest spenders were financial services and big banks on wall street. hillary clinton appearance regularly command $200,000 and up. the clinton's earning power raises problems. >> david gregory, over 200 per speech, not bad. why do you go to iowa with that? you had a fascinating discussion with president clinton about a lot of different things that we
can talk about but let's start with the money aspect of it. this information coming out that actually they made more money than a lot of us expected. >> i think the one thing that is going to link the left and the right here in terms of our presidential politics is this feeling of possible lass surge that politicians rely on contributions from big banks are less credible on income and inequality and sticking up for the middle class. clinton said we always fought for this stuff. i think the political calculus on that is changing a bit. but you talked about this earlier in the morning. look. barack obama took a lot of money from big banks as well. he got dodd/frank passed and a lot of people on wall street are complaining about that and those on the left don't think it goes far enough. i think this credibility issue of who best represents,, you know, the people at the time when so much sag nation on wages
and whether families are getting ahead, these issues become bigger. >> boy, it is a complicated web that bill clinton brings to his wife's campaign if she runs in 2016. we saw not just the money but iraq. a war that he was for before and then against it. >> she voted. i think her purpose on iraq is more complicated than his. >> his is complicated. >> i just read a quote from 2004 where he said that he supported president bush's invasion of iraq from the beginning. >> yeah. >> it's complicated. >> hillary clinton, you know, is a great candidate in the abstract. >> uh-huh. wait. what was that? >> no. i think as like happened in 2008 when you sort of make contact with reality, suddenly things get complicated when have you a very long record and not always zig this way and that, you know? it gets messy. >> it's weird.
it's almost uncomfortable to really tangibly talk about her as a candidate. david or eugene, you want to chime in. it's not that she doesn't have experience and not she doesn't have capability and not we wouldn't want to see a woman become president of the united states. all of those things are in the plus but her experience needs to add up to something. >> why is she so good in the abstract but gets a little less agile, let's say, once it looks like she is moving towards a campaign? >> well, as ben pointed out, she has a record. she has a very long record, actually. and all of this stuff can be picked apart. you know, i watched her campaign in 2008 and she was really good on the stuff. you know, barack obama was a bit better. but she was good out there. people forget what a juggernaut and what an effective campaign that was, and had lightning not
struck that year, and it did strike, you know, we probably would be talking about president clinton right now. >> yeah. >> but it's interesting too that it's moments in time, right? part of the magic of barack obama as a candidate in 2008 was his position on iraq. was the fact that he seemed newer, fresher, more about the future. represented a historical change. she may catch that moment this time around being the first female president and maybe her views about iraq while still difficult to have to reconcile make her seem a little bit more hawkish at a time when that might be more helpful now. when republicans are going to mount an attack on president obama's foreign affairs and his national security policy. >> david, as we're on this, president bill clinton is reprizing his role as defender of president obama in an exclusive interest unfortunate with david gregory airing this weekend on "meet the press."
>> former vice president deck cheney said that claims that al qaeda is decimated is clearly not true. al qaeda is on the march. the argument that america is less safe under president obama. do you believe dick cheney a credible critic on these matters? >> well, i believe, you know, if they hadn't gone to war in iraq, none of this would be happening. so i think -- >> it wouldn't be happening in syria? it wouldn't be -- terrorist -- >> it might be happened in syria. but what happened in syria wouldn't have happened in iraq. iraq would not have been, in effect, drastically altered as it has been. but mr. cheney has been incredibly adroit for the last six years or so attacking the administration for not doing an adequate job of cleaning up the mess that he made.
and i think it's unseemly -- and i give president bush, by the way, a lot of credit for trying to stay out of this debate and letting other people work through it. david gregory, same say unseemly for a former president for criticizing president bush for starting the iraq war. >> the 2004 quote you're referencing, i don't know that i'm familiar with, let me just say that. >> david, no, no. it was obvious. he supported and said publicly he supported george w. bush in the iraq war. >> right. he, obviously, agreed as well with the intelligence about iraq and the nuclear threat, the potential that was believed at the time that iraq posed. look. he'll also be countered by others who say the idea that sectarian strife throughout the middle east in syria or in iraq
was somehow started by the iraq war is also misguided, that there was a lot of that was happening and took a brutal dictator to keep a lid on it. >> we are going to cut the debate short. is that okay? you all are going to like this. >> this is a shift. >> we will take a hard turn here. >> you're asking about iraq? >> oh, tim howard? the soccer team is moving forward. has a lot to do with the guy in goal as we move forward. let's bring in u.s. goalkeeper tim howard. joining us live from sao paulo, brazil. >> tim, congratulations. today was an interesting day for me as a liverpool fan. first of all, i saw a guy that i've hated forever, ronaldo score a deciding goal that helped us go through and i saw goalkeeper make me chant out usa. what does it mean for u.s. soccer? >> well, thank you. it means everything for u.s. soccer.
that's, you know, job one is get out of the group and if you don't, it's a massive failure for as far as we've come. so we have done the first job and now we're on to the next round. it feels good. >> what is jurgen klinsmann meant to the team? >> he's brought in a new -- a bunch of new ideas, you know, fresh ideas that maybe we hadn't seen before, both on and off the field. it was good. he shook things up after last world cup and that is what every team needs and he has driven us forward with his enthusiasm, with his passion. you know, you're talking about a guy who has won the world cup himself as a player so not much we can debate with him. >> yeah. we have gary hopkins with us. gary? >> tim, great performance by the way, both people and personally. it's been phenomenal to watch. >> thank you. >> also about bragging rights. you go back to your dressing room in england after the world cup and what is with respect to the u.s. players around the
world and in these leagues? >> you know, i think the u.s. players are getting more and more respect as the years go on. individually. and hopefully, this world cup, if we can continue to do good things, will gain us some collective respect as a football country. but we still got more games to go until then. >> we have quite a few games left. still, tim, we can just stop at this point in the process and be a little proud of the fact that you guys got further than italy, spain. no, think about it. italy, spain, england, portugal. that's pretty remarkable. >> yeah. that wasn't lost on us. we realized going into the last game how many big teams, big football countries had been knocked out who wouldn't get the opportunity to continue on. so that was something, again,
that felt special, that we were a part of a group that was moving on and could do bigger and better things and we were shocked. it's been a crazy world cup in that regard, you know? some of the world powers aren't here any more, which is crazy to think. >> it's crazy. >> tim, it's sam stein here. i watch soccer maybe once every four years. i want to know, is it common to bite someone? >> stop it! >> help us understand this. >> well, when my kids were little, they used to bite people and i had to scald them and reprimand them. as an adult, i don't think it flies. >> apparently not. >> don't ask. >> i'm trying to cause a little trouble here. >> don't ask! >> adorable. >> let's have mark halpern ask you something. >> you established you're one of the best keepers in the world and you've had incredible saves. i want to ask you the one yesterday that got by you. you made great first initial save. tell us what happened after the
first save before the goal? >> thank you for the compliment. you know, i tried to get the ball out of the danger zone because it was yucky. it was terrible conditions as you can see. di that but credit to muller. he executed an incredible finish. inside the foot and hard to low through the hard post and through bodies. nine times after ten that goes into the stands. it's such a hard technique to execute and he shows why he is one of the top goal scorers in the world at the moment. >> it was an incredible save. gene robinson in washington, in part, because the view was obstructed and he only had a split second to see it. unbelievable. gene robinson has a question. >> tim, congratulations. you kept the goals out. you kept the goal differential where it needed to be. that was an amazing achievement. what do you guys have for belgium? what new tricks do you got?
>> you know what? i think it's an easier game in this regard. going into the last game of the group, there were different scenarios so your head is how many goals do we win, do we lose, do we draw? all of those things. when we face belgium there is only one result. it's to go forward as hard as we can and get a victory. it makes it a little bit easier mentally. they are a good team but we feel like we stack up well with them. they have a lot of pace and a lot of power. we are strong and we have been using the ball well. i think we are playing the best soccer or football this team has ever played. we are going to give it as good as we get, that's for certain. >> david gregory? >> tim, congratulations. my question is beyond the success of your team right now, the u.s. squad this year, which is really changing the dynamic for fans in america, what sustains this popularity in america? what do you think will finally turn it around to get people, you know, in a sustained way
really into football? >> that's a tough question. i also think it's nearly impossible to do that. this event is a global event. it literally captivates the world. you know, young and old. and so you're going to get -- you're going to get this kind of hype every four years and it's hard to -- it's hard to get that on a yearly base. but, you know, we have a thriving league. we know that in the mls with bigger and better players coming in. david beckham owning a team now. two more teams getting added. so it's exciting hopefully that people who are the casual soccer fans that are watching this will be excited to go out and support their local teams but we will see. >> all right. thank you so much, tim. congratulations. >> tim howard, thank you! >> we are all clapping and are very proud of you and the guys. >> good luck. >> good luck against belgium on tuesday. >> thank you. >> take care. ben smith, thank you so much. he seems very nice, doesn't he?
>> ben does, yes, he does. he is very mellow today. >> david gregory, we will watch your full interview with president clinton on "meet the press" this weekend. thank you very much for being on. the full panel from the clinton global initiative airs on msnbc at 3:00 this sunday as well. ahead this morning, we will pull back the curtain from the underground world of high stakes pork ed gillespie is trying to make his way to the senate but mark warner explains to us next how he plans to do that. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. ♪ ♪ trouble that can't be named. tiger is waiting to their tame ♪ ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪
>> good to be here. >> ask you the tough questions. you should have listened. >> yes, definitely. >> to save comfortable news outlet so i'm going to grill you. >> soccer. good for america or bad for america? a lot of right wingers came out yesterday said it's bad for america. >> i missed that. >> i will save you the column. >> it's unbelievable, actually, is what was said. >> i've been thrilled watching it. i love it. i played soccer in high school. but when i was in high school it was because you couldn't make the football team. now, you know, people play soccer because america is good at it and i'm really excited to watch it. >> how is it going on the campaign trail? >> campaign trail is great and i love it and a lot of enthusiasm out there and a lot of young people flocking to the campaign and gives it a good feel and future oriented sense to it which is great. and we are standing up for what we believe in and running on a positive agenda of economic growth. >> why are you running?
>> i'm worried about the future of the country. i think we are at a pretty critical point and if we could get control of the u.s. senate the last two years of the obama presidency i think you could have a positive beneficial impact. >> what has mark warner done? >> he hasn't been the independent voice he said he would be. he voted with president obama 97% of the time since taking office and he supported 7 trillion in new debt and nearly a trillion in new taxes and voted against a balanced budget and saying he would be for when he first ran for the senate. he has not been the pro business democrat that he said he would be. >> he's ahead in the polls. what is the strategy? he is doing quite well, at least to this point. >> when you look at the real clear politics website he is under 50% on the ballot tests. he has got 100%. mark warner has been governor in virginia and the senator in virginia and when you can't break 50% in that regard you're in serious trouble and i think
he is. >> you've ruined republican politics every strategist i meet now say they are running for public office so you've set a bad example. one issue has been discussed a lot, minimum wage. you say states should decide what the level should be. why should there be a federal men wage involved and why should the government be involved setting any minimum whatever level it's set at? >> i think the states are making decisions about raising minimum wage. in maryland they raised the minimum rage recently and in virginia we have not. we will see what the difference is relative to job creation and employment rates and unemployment rates and those two neighboring states. i don't believe in a federally mandat mandat mandated increase in the minute wage. i don't think they should tell any states what their minute wage should be. >> above? -- >> i'm sorry. i'm not in favor of -- >> i think is there a floor there and it's set and absorbed into the marketplace. but i think the states, if they
want -- municipalities or cities as well. we know from the cbo that the minimum wage increase that senator warner and other support would destroy 500,000 jobs. there are folks that make minimum wage head of household. i think about 3%, mark. if those people are having a hard time making end's meet because of they are not making enough on the minute wage we should help them but help them without destroying those jobs and without destroying the other 97%, you know, who have jobs that are oftentimes second jobs or entry level jobs. >> we have got like six major companies now of reason to raise the minimum wage so they are finding a way to do it without hurting their profits and their bottom line. i don't understand why your position can't be that it should be raised to an extent. >> like i said if the states want to raise it and, by the way, that is great if in the marketplace those companies are raising minimum wage. by the way, if we had -- the
lowest label force participation rate in 36 years right now. our economy contracted by nearly three full percentage points last quarter. what we need to do is everything we can to encourage job creation. including entry level jobs. everywhere i go when i go around the comomt,monwealth -- >> what i said, mika, we can help folks if it's impossible to live on it let's help them but without destroying jobs. the worst thing about this administration's policies that mark warner supported 97% of the time since taking office is not just that they are killing jobs. it's that they are destroying the work ethic. long term that is a bigger possible problem for us as a country because we know there is not just economic value in labor and human dignity in work and we need to make it easier for people to get that first job and we need to destroy 500,000 of those jobs you're getting it harder on the first rung of the economic ladder. >> speaking of the lack of dignity and no work ethic, john heilemann has a question. >> oh, yeah.
>> i'm asking you a question that gets to the heart of you both as mark eluded to a political strategist and now running as a candidate. virginia is a state has become the quintessential swing state. president obama won in 2008 and 2012. terry mcauliffe won it a year ago. big growth in the hispanic plopgs and something you urged golf romney to pay attention to in 2012. how do you break that lock that hurt republicans? what do you do as a candidate to get 20 the growing segments of that demographic you need to win there? >> john, i'm running on what i called eg-squared which is ed gillespie for economic growth that is a message i can take everywhere. pev every corner of the comomt. if you go on my website and you see my videos one click of a mouse they have a spanish language version. i have a korean language version
of my biography video on that website as well. i was in the largest korean church in the commonwealth on sunday and visiting with them after the worship service. i'm taking my message everywhere because i believe it resonates everywhere. everywhere i go, people are concerned about lost jobs, lower take home pay and higher health care costs and higher energy prices and i've put forward a positive agenda and rolls outline the policies for if yesterday. five-point agenda for economic growth and yesterday i put out the specifics on the energy plan. >> ed, a couple of quick questions for you. first of all, why did eric cantor lose? >> i think there is a number of factors there and i've given up the political analysis business but i think a lot of was unique to the seventh district. i believe a stronger anti-incumbent. it's much broader than that. a lot of independents and a lot of democrats very frustrated with what is going on in washington, d.c. today.
i think that is to my advantage in november. >> were you glad that thad cochran won his primary in mississippi? >> i'm focused on one race and one race only. >> i know you went like this when thad won or were you disappointed? >> i really for as far as i'm concerned, you know, i'm not as concerned about these intraparty fights a lot of my fell republicans are. i think people getting involved in the process and the energy they bring. i had to fight for my nomination in a convention. that was good for me. it was good for our party. we unified our party afterward and a lot of people new people got involved in the process. >> sarah palin talking about republican civil wars and maybe leaving the republican party. >> i don't see that. what i see in virginia is a a lot of concern about if president obama continues to have a blank check for the last two years of his administration given the steps he has taken we need a check in balance and republicans in virginia, whether they came in through a tea party
door or a libertarian door or a traditional county unit door, are very unified about the importance of this election and winning in november. >> terry mcauliffe in a big fight over medicaid expansion in virginia. do you support medicaid expansion or not? >> i'm with the speaker in virginia and the republicans in the legislature who i think are rightly concerned about expanding obamacare in the commonwealth of virginia. >> this is medicaid expansion, though. >> i understand. it's different from obamacare. there are a lot of poor people in the state of virginia and across america that need access to health care. wouldn't this help them? >> joe, i think we can help them without expanding obamacare in virginia which this comes down to and in the long term i don't think the federal government is there at the end of the day and put taxpayers in virginia on the hook they will not follow through at the end of the day and i think virginia is a rightly concerned about that and also concerned about, you know, those who are least among us and
finding a way to help them without policies with negative consequences. >> we got to go. final question. what has been your biggest surprise being in front of the camera, being on the stump. >> he see a difference. >> being in the middle of the fight. >> i see a total difference. >> what is the biggest surprise for you? >> i wasn't sure how much i'd like it. a lot of reasons i got into it. talked about them. i'm worried about the future of the country and turns out i love it so that is a pleasant surprise. it's a long day so miserable existence if you didn't like it. >> ed gillespie, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> good luck. coming up the player drafted in last night's nba draft who won't play at all in the league. the moment everyone is talking about ahead on "morning joe."
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nba draft. he was followed by jabari parker as the number two pick for the milwaukee bucks. the miami heat traded their first round pick and two second round pick to charlotte hornets to grab shabazz napier. no one has happier than it than lebron james who took to twitter after napier was drafted. the heat are trying to give a reason for lebron james to return to the heat. and adam silver giving praise. >> i want to take a moment to recognize baylor center isaiah austin. you may have heard about isaiah. he is one of the nation's best collegiate players and was expected to be picked tonight before the discovery just a few days ago that he had a genetic disorder called marsan syndrome
and is no longer able to play competitive basketball. long the other young men tonight, isaiah committed himself through endless hard work and dedication to a professional career as a professional basketball player and we wanted to make sure he fulfilled at least this part of his dream. so it gives me great pleasure to say that with the next pick in the 2014 nba draft, the nba selects isaiah austin out of baylor university. >> that's incredible. that is really beautiful. what a crushing moment. >> it saved his life. he could have very well died. >> do you know the details of it? >> it's a syndrome that just ruins your connective tissue and they discovered it in the physical before his draft. they told him that if he had physical exertion like playing basketball had he a real chance
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polling place. >> reporter: sticking up for the internal revenue service is never easy but now democrats are caught between a rock and a hard place and votes distrust the agency. democrats in congress along with the administration have labeled the gop claims of an anticonservative bias at the irs as nothing more than a conspiracy theory. >> 14 congressional hearings. 30 interviews with irs employees. 50 written congressional requests and 750,000 pages of document and all of that has done nothing to substantiate false republican claims of a broader conspiracy. >> i cannot cast a vote. it would place me on the same page of history books as senator joseph mccarthy. >> reporter: the allegation that lois lerner lost more than two years of e-mails resulting from a computer crash has public opinion emboldening the gop. a deeper look at the poll shows the vast majority of both political parties are skeptical of the irs. archivist of the united states further added to the skepticism
testifying if lerner's -- irs commissioner koskinen maintains the irs has not committed a crime. >> i don't think an joapology i owed. >> i don't believe you. this is incredible. >> i have a long career. the first time anybody has said you do not believe me. >> i don't believe you. >> that's fine. we can have a disagreement. >> reporter: with the public sentiment against the irs democrats in congress may find it difficult to continue to defend the actions of the irs and not the administration's talking points. >> derrick is with us now. mark halpern, i want to foll follow-up on the conversation. i'm shocked they are democrats are xaecomparing this to mccarthyism? investigations about hob launched and e-mails destroyed and basic tech guys or women could retrieve those e-mails. i don't get it. >> we have always had
partisanship in washington. if you have a democrat in the white house, democrats circle the wagons and republicans in the white house, republicans circle the wagon. howard baker reminded us not that long al congress is a coequal branch even if the democratic president said, no. there needs to be accountable. >> but democrats are asking questions, sam. >> i think mark is right on this one. >> on this one? >> oh, my gosh! >> i know. >> oh, thank you, sam. >> it pains me to say it but no. you look at these oversight hearings. there hasn't been the type of inquisitive questions from the democratic ledger. they have been mostly focusing on the budgeting for i.t. at these departments. >> not just at these hearings. if this was a republican legislation they would sit together and strategize. who do we subpoena and sequence the hearings? there is none of that. >> howard baker did that during
the watergate. republicans did that during watergate. i love elijah cummings. i worked with him. he was a ranking member when i was there. it pains me to compare this to mccarthyism. this is a serious issue and if republicans had done this, would i have be raising hell? yes but a lot more hell and go back and roll seven years of tape and if you have any questions on whether i wouldn't kick the hell out of republicans in a situation like this. i wish democrats would act a little more shocked. you have other polls out there, derrick. the numbers are pretty staggering as far as republicans and democrats thinking that something went terribly wrong here and it needs to be investigated. >> unfortunately an investigation that has to bring the parties together to find something to agree on.
the overwhelming majority believe the irs has acted in this. a recent lawsuit coming out finding the irs to be guilty of leaking unauthorized information at least will embolden the gop's claim. >> yeah. plus, you've got the contributions from, you know, the commissioner, the democrats and then the investigation. the settlement that just came out. >> it's not like the questions aren't being asked. what i feel like i'm getting from you from the conversations we had earlier you think it would be very different if this was a republican administration in terms of the coverage. >> there is no doubt about it. of course, democrats would be shocked and stunned and deeply saddened and republicans would be sitting there shocked and stunned and deeply saddened at the political witch hunt that was going on. derrick? >> i want to add one thing. when interviewed, johnny waurlts said the best he did for america as irs commissioner was to not
investigate the enemy's list that he was given. i think a nonpartisan to nonpartisan agency and too much trust placed in that agency to politicize it in such a way. >> how do americans get a call from an irs auditor when they say we need this information from you when they don't keep e-mails. >> they need money to update their computer system. a 2007 film once was a major music hit and john carney is looking to recapture that success. how he is bringing music and film together once again. we will talk to one of the stars of the film that hits theaters today. ♪ ♪fame, makes a man take things over♪ ♪fame, lets him loose, hard to swallow♪ ♪fame, puts you there where things are hollow♪
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look what you've got. >> people are going crazy for that here. when i play a show and the people went to college in bristol, the first thing they ask me, i know your girlfriend. >> i'm becoming dave cole's girlfriend back home. we used to be a team. what happened? you know what they say, get your songs in a movie. >> so this is me. this is where i've been for god knows how long. >> i love that. >> do you? do you see the bed? i made that bed. >> that's very impressive. how do you get up there? >> i vault. >> with a pole? >> no, no, it's one -- i do it in one -- like one straight luge, unless i'm drunk, in which case it's often a dismount.
>> oh, my. that was a scene from the new movie "begin again." here with us now, james corden, hello. >> hi. >> out today, james, how exciting. what a great movie. tell us about it. >> it's called "begin again." written and directed by john carney who made the film "once." it's about two people in a particular moment in their lives and they're a bit lost, come together to record an album and find the way out of the mess that they're in. >> struggling musicians is around the plot here? >> some struggling and some successful. and it's about how the people deal with that in their lives and juggle that. yeah, it's a really lovely film. we're all very proud of it. >> and kind of a love song to the city of new york, right? >> yeah. >> all shot here and lots of location shooting? >> yeah, it's very much -- i think a lot of people have said about the movie that they feel it's the manhattan that they know. a lot of the film was shot
almost sort of guerrilla-style without permits. just go out and film with a very small scaled-down crew. it was a joy. >> and it says set to the soundtrack of "a summer in new york city." hitting at a perfect time for new yorkers. >> i hope so. it's certainly a film you feel a lot better when you come out than you did coming in. >> that's good. sam stein? >> well, is it hard -- i guess you didn't sing that much but i'm wondering what it's like where you have to sing and do everything in addition to acting. is that difficult? >> julie andrews didn't think so. >> it's not a musical in its -- in a traditional sense. it's very much a song about the making of an album, so people don't spontaneously break into song. >> it's not like there's awkward singing and stuff like that. >> why did we bring him along to this interview?
>> go ahead, john. >> this feels like it's a movie that has a lot of big hollywood stars in it but also a real indie feel to it. there's an interesting thing going on between the wattage of celebrities and the downscale vibe of the whole thing. >> i think that's what john has done so brilliantly really is essentially anybody who goes to big mainstream films will probably feel like they're watching a small, independent movie and people who love small, independent movie will feel like they're watching a small studio picture. >> you can watch "begin again" in select theaters today. james corden, thank you. on monday keira knightley will join us on "morning joe." >> she's the star. >> no, you're the star, james. don't you forget it. >> that's what he does. don't start with him, james. >> please, i won't have any of
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i am pumped about team usa's match against germany today. they said it could not be done, but we dug down deep and lost our game. but, but, but, we also had portugal win in a different game by not by a lot, so we're number two! we're number two! we're number two! >> good morning, everyone. it is friday, june 27th. >> happy, happy friday. >> it's friday in june. the last friday in june! >> can you believe -- >> no. >> i cannot believe we are halfway through the year. >> what? we're in summer. >> june 30th -- you know, it's one of those days, i don't know why, but i always look -- wake up and it's june 30th and i
panic. half the year's gone. there's so much to do. >> where do i go to get my june back. >> the other day we had the longest day of the year. that always gets me, the solstice. >> i love the summer solstice. >> you're like wow, the year -- it's going to get darker now for the rest of the year? that's bad. >> i think it means i'm an optimist that my favorite day of the year is december 21st. >> the darkest day? >> yeah, because i know that every day i wake up -- >> it will be lighter. >> it will be lighter every day. >> that's so beautiful. let's just end the show right there. >> we have senior political editor and white house correspondent with the huffington post, sam stein. >> you know where i've always wanted to go on the longest day of the year? >> st. petersburg, russia. of course i've never been out of florida or here because i've
heard the -- the white palace or whatever, the light when it hits it, you know, it stays light until 10:00 or 11:00 and it's just gorgeous. >> we'll have to going there live next year. >> isn't that the case? it's like the white palace or something. >> st. petersburg, florida, or russia? >> no, russia. and when the lights hit it, it's supposed to be fabulous. >> you should do it from iceland. in the summer it's like light for 23 hours. >> dude, i so want to go to iceland. >> stoalso in washington -- >> i have to leave the county i live in. >> also msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. gary hopkins standing by. good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. >> stock hoholm really is spectacular in the summer. white nights until light 11:00 at night. >> everyone out on the street
drunk. >> i don't remember that. >> can i ask gene a question. >> sure. >> gene, you know a little bit about what we continental types call futbol. did you see all the whining yesterday from people that don't like soccer. oh, oh, you lose and you win? oh, wait, i don't understand this. >> yeah, yeah. >> these are the same people that follow hockey where you have every team get to the playoffs, despite the fact they have a 14-87 record. with all due respect to ron fornier, he wepnt on a tear yet. he's a hockey fan. you go 14-87 and still make the hockey playoffs. please, don't intentionally -- and somebody wrote a column i won't even mention. >> don't dignify it. >> i talked about stupidity down in mississippi where the guy too
stupid to figure out how to win an election he should have won. i'm not going to talk about people who are too stupid to realize that this happens in american sports all the time. nfl. go ahead. >> to a much greater extent. you know, just back up and what it takes just to get there, just to be one of the teams playing, you know, on the world stage for the world cup. it's incredible. and to get through the group stage is remarkable. it's a remarkable achievement. these are the rules, this is the way it works and on to portugal. >> and we watched yesterday with gary hopkins. >> with gary hopkins and the rest of the "morning joe" family. let's bring in -- >> i didn't flip a table. >> gary hopkins. >> mika didn't flip a table. i almost did at the ending. we were clearly outclassed yesterday, we were exhausted. and it has to do with where we played before.
but at the ending of t of the dt through and we'll be playing belgium on tuesday. you know, there aren't a lot of people saying that we don't have a good chance. >> this is -- this is colossal. i mean england has gone home, spain have gone home, italy have gone home. >> that's amazing. >> you never thought that at the beginning of the tournament. and this team has traveled all over brazil, farther than any other team. germany had an extra day's rest over the usa and they just keep defying the odds and battling and battling and pulling out results. it wasn't pretty, it wasn't great, it wasn't the perfect performance. but as klinsmann always said, this team has got heart and it will battle. group play in the world cup is about one thing and it's about getting out of the group. i don't care what you do, scratch, kick and claw, not bite, and that's what the u.s. does.
this is a big boy tournament, this is the world series, the super bowl, the stanley cup all rolled into one. there's nothing bigger in the world of soccer than this tournament. you come to play and the usa is shocking the world. not in their beautiful performance but in their great determination. we're in the round of 16 now and it's winner take all in those games, so who knows what can happen. >> and of course you've just got to say the star of this show is jurgen klinsmann, how this guy has taken an american team that nobody gave a chance to. and i absolutely love clint dempsey, that guy is tough. he is texas tough. he is built texas tough. i love clint dempsey, he's my hero. >> and, joe, tim howard -- >> tim howard. >> it's all about goal differential. the reason we're going to be able to play belgium and beat belgium isn't the knockout round is because of tim howard, who kept -- you know, if he had let in more goals, we'd be coming
home. >> and the great tim howard joins us now. >> tim, first of all, joe scarborough. congratulations. yesterday was a very interesting day for me as a liverpool fan. first of all, i saw a guy i hated forever, ronaldo, score a deciding goal that helped us go through and i saw everton's goalkeeper make me chant out usa, usa. what does it mean for u.s. soccer? >> thank you. it means everything for u.s. soccer. job one is to get out of the group. if you don't, it's a massive failure for as far as we've come. so we've done the first job and now we're on to the next round. it feels good. >> what has jurgen klinsmann meant to the team? >> he's brought in a new owe-- bunch of new ideas, fresh ideas that maybe we hadn't seen
before. it was good, he shook things up after the last world cup and that's what every team needs. he's driven us forward with his enthusiasm, with his passion. you're talking about a guy who's won the world cup himself as a player so there's not much that we can debate with him. >> tim howard, thanks. good luck in tuesday's match. we'll be watching that. >> usa, baby. usa. news to cover this morning. this is quite something. president bill clinton is reprising his role as a defender of president obama. in an exclusive interview with david gregory airing this weekend on "meet the press," the former president laid the current turmoil in iraq at the feet of the previous administration. >> the former vice president, dick cheney, said president obama in an op-ed that claims that al qaeda is decimated is clearly not true, that in fact al qaeda is on the march. the argument that america is less safe under president obama. do you believe dick cheney is a credible critic on these matters?
>> well, i believe, you know, if they hadn't gone to war in iraq none of this would be happening, so i think -- [ applause ] >> it wouldn't be happening in syria, there wouldn't be terrorist actors? >> it might be happening in syria, but what happened in syria wouldn't have happened in iraq. iraq would not have been in effect drastically altered as it has been. but mr. cheney has been incredibly adroit for the last six years or so attacking the administration for not doing an adequate job of cleaning up the mess that he made. and i think it's unseemly. and i give president bush, by the way, a lot of credit for trying to stay out of this debate and letting other people work through it. >> all right. so now -- >> i'm reading something, by the way, from june 23rd, 2004. i just googled it, it's a cnn
story. former president bill clinton has revealed that he continues to support president bush's decision to go to war in iraq. i have repeatedly defended president bush against the left on iraq, so there you go. >> different bill clinton. >> that was a different bill clinton. >> regoogle. >> now it's -- well, i mean bill clinton this year and of course when it became much less popular, he stopped defending it, but this is what the left -- it's collective amnesia on the left. >> there was 23 senators in all who voted against the war authorization. hillary clinton was not one of them, harry reid was not one of them. chuck schumer was not one of them. bill clinton was a fairly public defender of the iraq war authorization. so it hurts his credibility to make these arguments. you can still be critical of the execution of the war while supporting authorization. >> i would put myself in that category. i supported -- i, like 70% of americans, i believed -- >> this was the story of the '08
primary that hillary clinton could not get around her initial authorization vote. she was critical of the war execution, but in the end she couldn't get over it because barack obama had made that speech. and i think this is still a problem for her. >> let's be clear, in both cases, not to doubt president clinton's sincerity in either place in, 2004 he was effectively defending his wife's position by being supportive of george w. bush. now as we get towards -- head towards 2016 he's making arguments which advance his wife's position. can't criticize that. >> he's loyal in that aspect of it all. speaking of the clintons, they have tons of money. did you see they have a lot more money than we thought they had. >> a lot more than who thought they had. >> more than we. >> how much do they have? >> mika is about to tell us. >> so i'll just end the story there by saying dick cheney then fired back with a personal attack, so it's just -- the
whole thing is unseemly to use both of their -- >> it's a little retro too. >> it is a little retro. >> let's not talk about impeachment, please. let's not talk about wmds. >> let's move forward. >> dick cheney's dwis. >> we're stuck in the 1980s or maybe the cold war. >> the past keeps coming back to haunt us and i just wonder if there's going to be a new player on the 2016 landscape at some point. somebody refreshing. >> here's elizabeth warren talk coming. >> no. anybody, please. please. i don't want to say the name bush, clinton. >> stop thinking about tomorrow. >> aren't you noticing kind of a o'an exhaustion factor when you try -- i engage people in politics and people are like -- >> talk about retro. >> well, what's new and what's
the message on either side? nothing. >> new cast on "the view" coming. >> all i can say is -- >> that's true. >> hard rains are going to fall. the exhaustion, the collective exhaustion of the clinton and bush dynasties. >> and cheney coming back. >> both parties are rushing into it, it's going to exhaust the american electorate. i think something big is going to happen. >> do you? >> i do. >> you're making fun of me. >> no, i'm not. >> both bill and hillary clinton saying they were dead broke when they left the white house. >> they were. >> well, they were in debt. that actually happens to a lot of families when they leave the white house, but then it comes back quickly is the issue. a new analysis, and they know it's coming so they really don't need to say, by "the washington post" shows the financial struggles didn't last long. the former president gave his first paid speech just two weeks after leaving office and hasn't
stopped since. between january, 2001 and 2013 bill clinton was paid nearly $105 million for 542 speeches. >> that's not bad. and by the way -- >> i'll do that for half of that. >> but they have high overhead. they have a high burn rate. >> and the amount of time he spends preparing for those speeches. >> wait a second. he writes it on napkins. so sam, the next part of it is really the bigger problem, i think. more than half of those earnings came from events -- not overseas. in 2011 a single speech in hong kong netted clinton $750,000. this is the part of the story that i think could cause democratic donors problems. here at home, the largest spenders were financial service companies and the big banks on wall street. and you look, $20 million from
wall street speeches. they are close to the community. and i know what hillary clinton was saying when she said, well, we're not really that rich. what she's saying is she hangs out with billionaires on wall street who pay 14% tax rates. they're probably paying, i don't know, maybe they're paying in the 30s, maybe they're paying in the 20s or the 30s, tax rates like that. but it's just -- they are -- i'm sorry, that is disconnected when you don't think you're that rich because the billionaires that you hang out with all the time are paying 14% taxes. >> and how are you supposed to take those people to task if you're taken millions and millions and millions of dollars. >> we did a story in '08 about bill clinton's speeches. he had given a speech to some group in south america where he promoted the colombia free trade deal. it was a big deal because at the time his wife was against the colombia free trade deal and these are the things, these are the conflicts that really tripped her up, which is that
her husband's post-white house financial career were creating conflicts of interest for her presidential campaign. it's not just that you come off as wealthy and saying you're not, it's that you have these financial conflicts of interest that could tug at you and make you conflicted on the campaign. >> so, eugene robinson, when you think about 2016, since we're looking at hillary that way, i just wonder, we've seen in the obama presidency how hard it is to lift up the middle class. that's been one of their themes. and the income divide, the divide between rich and poor has gotten worse, wages haven't gone up in years, and this has been what this president wanted to do. hillary clinton is tied to all of these banks and wall streeters and different money players. how would she make a difference? what would she be able to do that would actually help the middle class american? >> well, you know, we'll have to say. i mean we'll have to harear her-
>> are we going to find out the hard way? >> we'll have to hear what she has to say. this whole discussion illustrates why i think people are so exhausted with politics. and sort of, you know, slouching toward 2016 without a lot of enthusiasm. i think there's a -- people question -- who's going to fix this? who is going to speak for the middle class, and not just speak for the middle class, you know, not just throw out a bunch of rhetoric, but in fact propose policies and a change of direction that really would help the middle class in this country. you know, yes, there will be skepticism. former first lady and former secretary of state whose family earned $100 million over the last few years conservatively is, you know, down with the people. >> yeah, okay. >> just to be -- just to make
the one fair point. president obama took a lot of money from wall street too. >> but my point, john, is that nothing really good has happened for the middle class in a presidency that has made a theme of the middle class. >> yes, but he made a theme of the middle class despite taking a lot of money from wall street. you can advocate policies that are good for the middle class even if you take money from banks. >> haven't people on the left, though, been critical that he hasn't been tough enough on wall street? >> absolutely. >> they have. >> all i'm saying is mika is pointing out president obama has pursued policies in favor of the middle class. he's done that. >> who is saying that. >> mika just said that. >> she said the opposite. >> she said president obama has pursued policies in favor of the middle class. >> he has tried to. >> he pursued those having taken money from wall street banks. >> my point taken, that it's very difficult to get done, obviously, and hillary clinton would only double down on those problems of having a very mixed relationship with wall street, one in which she has received money for working from them and then she's going to try to take
them on and make things fairer? i don't think it's possible. >> i think it is possible. >> really? >> well -- >> she's received money. >> she's got cash. >> millions and millions of dollars. >> there's an old saying in washington that i can't repeat on tv. but if you can be bought off by a check from a wall street bank, then you don't have the character to be -- >> what's the saying? >> wait a minute. >> if you can't eat their food and drink their wine -- >> the clintons have fought for the middle class for decades. they have. i mean they have. you can say what you want about conflict of interest or hypocrisy or some individual cases but they fought for the middle class for decades. >> her 2008 campaign, i thought hillary clinton was the most vocal advocate on the democratic side for the middle class and the working class -- >> other than john edwards. >> but doesn't she blunt this
criticism of her being out of touch and wealthy by putting out policies that go after wall street, capital gains tax and that type of thing? >> i would love to hear that. still ahead, the so-called poker princess explains what happens in the underground world of high stakes poker and how she found out the feds were on to her. molly bloom joins us. and up next, get your big gulps ready. plus important information you need to know before heading to the beach this summer. first, one thing you need to know is bill karins is there. walk that way. >> some of the things i've seen that guy do is just really -- >> you guys are the ones that invited me to that beach. >> he's got the forecast. bill. >> stories change. good morning, everyone. do you have beach plans in the midwest? maybe going to the lake, going to the pool? it's going to be difficult. you're going to be dodging those thunderstorms all weekend long. the rain this june has been epic. that's why we continue to show you these amazing pictures of
the mississippi river well above flood stage. we've got docks, we've got boats in the water. yesterday we had a roller coaster. it just keeps coming throughout this area and more rain on the way. two dry days and now that's over. let's show you what's happened so far this month of june. numerous areas, it's not isolated. we're talking from omaha to minneapolis to ames. some areas have had as much as 13 inches of rain. we have flood warnings everywhere you see the dark color in green. much of the mississippi river. now from st. louis all the way up there to st. paul. this is exactly where more rain is falling. this is the beginning of a wet weekend. complex of thunderstorms, lots of lightning now trying to approach sioux city and omaha so that could give you another half inch to inch of rain on top of the record rain you've already seen. throughout the weekend our computers are saying anywhere from 1 to 3 inches widespread, but if you get caught in those thunderstorms, isolated amounts up to 6 inches of possible. hope not. so the weekend forecast -- by
the way, d.c. northwards up the east coast, this is like the fifth or sixth great weekend in a row with low humidity and warm temperatures, so enjoy that. the southeast, you're fine in the morning, a few thunderstorms in the afternoon. the heat will build starting in the west and move across the country. as we go into sunday, look at never. saturday 87. 98 in denver on sunday. and notice kansas city into the 90s. much of the southern half of this country is going to be very hot as we start our july. it is the hottest month of the year. really nothing that atypical. new york city, mix of sun and clouds. what a beautiful friday. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. i know what you're thinking...
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time to take a look at our papers. "the chicago tribune" over 1,000 chicago public school employees are being laid off, including 550 teachers. officials didn't say which schools would be impacted, just that one-third of schools would lose teachers. teachers are encouraged to reapply for new positions that would begin this fall. one in ten beaches are now unsafe for swimmers. shorelines across the country are failing the epa's new testing procedures. the agency says 3.5 million people get sick from contaminated waters each year and that study is based on water samples taken from the east and west coasts, the gulf of mexico and the great lakes regions. "the wall street journal," gopro shares jumped 31% in its first day of trading, making it the largest ipo by a consumer electronics company in two
decades. they also gave the company a market value of nearly $4 billion, almost equal to domino's pizza: ceo who started the company ten years ago owns 48% of the company stock now valued at $1.6 billion. and "the new york times," former new york city mayor michael bloomberg's controversial sugary drink ban is dead. >> unbelievable. >> yesterday the highest court ruled against reinstating the city's 16-ounce soft drink limit. the law was intended to curb the sale and consumption of sugary drinks linked to obesity. the court said the city boards of health was overstepping its regulatory authority. current mayor bill de blasio says he's extremely disappointed by the decision. the "houston chronicle," three dozen people were injured. 150 people were gathered at a home for a religious ceremony when the second floor of the garage gave way. one police official described the garage as, quote, pancaked.
luckily most of the injuries were considered minor. 27 people taken to the hospital, just three considered urgent. from the "usa today," sherri shepherd and jenny mccarthy are both leaving "the view." other unconfirmed reports say the women were let go. abc released a statement saying, quote, "the view" is going to be moving on in an exciting new direction next season and abc has made the decision to evolve the show creatively. >> okay. this weekend's "parade" magazine featured the summer music issue with ed shearen on the cover. my daughter loves him, i have heard many of his songs all the time. and joe, you take a trip back to the summer of 1984 to talk about bruce springsteen's album "born in the usa" which was released ago 30 years ago this month. it's a great piece. >> thank you so much. >> did you have fun writing that? >> complete with a picture from
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a game like this doesn't come together often outside the casinos. the stakes attract rich flounders and they in turn attract the sharks. no limit texas hold 'em is the cadillac of poker. each player is dealt two cards face down. five cards are then dealt face up across the middle. these are community cards everyone can use to make the best five-card hand. the key to the game is playing the man, not the cards. >> that was a scene from "rounders," the 1998 movie about high stakes poker games. joining us now, someone who might know a bit or two about the world of high stakes poker. molly bloom details her experiences in her new book "molly's game," from hollywood's elite to wall street's billionaire boys club, my high stakes adventure in the world of underground poker." and you have had quite a ride. how are you? >> i'm very well.
>> welcome to the show. >> thank you. >> you once made $4 million in one year? >> i was oranging and facilitating the games. >> really? >> i will see your 500 and i will raise you another 500 of my own. >> so you ended up basically hosting the poker games of the stars out there, right? so matt damon, leo dicaprio would come and play. >> yes. >> people are obsessive. >> yes. >> these are all night games, they went on for hours, days, what was it like? >> i was constantly trying to find more players for the game to make it more interesting. i kind of got more than i bargained for because the games would happen more regularly, they'd want to play more hours and it's very compulsive. >> tobey maguire the best of them as a poker player? >> a lot of these guys were giving a lot of action, not playing traditional poker. he was in it to win. >> ben afleck, tall and handsome, smart gambler and you say he knew when to fold. >> yes. >> matt damon far from the
character he played in "rounders." good guy. >> yes. >> a-rod came to one of your games. >> yes. >> this is the kind of game you ran. a 4300 square foot suite at the four seasons. minimum buy-in, $250,000. champagne, caviar and playboy playmates. this is what your business was. and a-rod had fun at that game? enjoyed himself? >> yeah, he just spectated. he didn't buy-in. >> would you imagine it would be hard to have fun at that game? >> i live a quiet life. >> but a quarter of a million dollars was the buy-in. >> this was post-2008. the world was falling apart. there was millions of dollars on the table. >> we're talking about a lot of stars, a lot of hedge fund types also, love to get involved in new york? >> in new york it was a lot of wall street guys. >> so when the feds got on to you. >> yes. >> you logged in one day and your balance was negative $9
million. >> that's correct, yes. >> with a note saying please contact the district attorney. >> yes. >> that would have been a bad day. >> for the majority of the time, i was following the rules and they were legal because i was only taking tips. i wasn't taking a rake. the reason i was able to make so much in tips is there's only nine seats at the game and when you have celebrities or billionaires, a lot of people want to play and be part of this elite group. >> so a rake is what? >> a rake is when you're taking a percentage of each pot. so it's not giving the players the choice, you're just taking. >> that's illegal. >> that's illegal. >> that's reserved for vegas. >> exactly. >> it's not illegal to take the tips. if somebody is desperate to get in and be seen at this place and be around the right people and be part of the scene, they can pay you a big tip for that, right? >> absolutely. >> how big were the tips sometimes? >> biggest tip? >> biggest -- i know my biggest night was $150,000. i don't know -- >> that's a good night.
>> yeah, that was a good night. >> who was the best tipper? >> well, i had a lot of different games. we're talking about the people that everyone knows? >> the people that everybody knows, yeah. >> you know, most people were pretty generous. >> right. >> but who was the most generous? >> come on, give us a name. >> out of the selects, i would say probably ben. >> and who was the worst? >> tobey. >> he was in it to win. he won the most money and tipped the least. >> so most of the time you were taking tips and then you started to take a rake. >> right. but i had retained attorneys and they said that it was a misdemeanor. so when the federal government got involved, when the fbi agents raided my game in 2011, one of them that i wasn't out and seized my assets, it was a very unexpected turn of events for me. >> if you're getting tips, the tipping part was legal. >> yes, i had crossed the line. >> but i don't understand why you would need to go for the rake if the tips were so good and that was legal.
>> what happened is i tried -- when i got to new york, i tried to scale it. i tried to have more and more games, different types of stakes and it was really -- it was very difficult to keep hold of everything that was going on. >> so what is behind -- i guess why would you need to scale it or go deeper if you were doing so well? i want to get behind the psychology of it and maybe even there are others who were sucked in this way or maybe that's not the right word. but what drew you to go over the line? >> no, i think that is the right word. i think it was just a testament to the fact that i was getting very caught up in this world and getting very lured by the money and just the whole excitement. and even though i never played, i was becoming a gambler. >> how did it resolve itself with the feds? >> well, at that time i had a different criminal attorney and they got in touch and they said, you know, we want your client to come in and talk to us. i declined. and then i moved back home with my mom and my grandmother to the
mountains of colorado. tried to put my life back together. two years later i thought i had done that and i hadn't run a game for two years. i moved back to l.a. ten days after i moved back, 17 fbi agents with very -- assault weapons arrested me. >> because everybody knows you need assault weapons when you're raiding a place where nine hollywood stars are playing poker. so you've got the book. >> i do. >> it's going to be great, very exciting. what's next? >> you know, now that i know i'm not going to jail -- >> yay! >> that's always a positive. >> clap. come on, that's good, right? >> it's a good day. >> i just want to get out in the world and see what -- roll the dice a little bit. >> craps. >> that's a nice next chapter. >> were you allowed to keep some of your money? >> no. >> so it's always minus $9 million. >> it's been negative for a long
time. >> can i just say that's not cool. that is not cool. >> totally uncool. >> the book is "molly's game." molly bloom. >> molly, it's great to have you. >> we'll be back with much more "morning joe." [ brian ] in a race, it's about getting to the finish line. in life, it's how you get there that matters most.
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all right. 44 past the hour. time now for business before the bell with cnbc's sara eisen. sara, what you got? >> good morning, mika. i'm watching nike shares today. the company reported earnings last night and, boy, did it have a solid quarter. it beat on sales, it beat on profits. the world cup -- nike has been spending a ton of money along with adidas investing in marketing and advertising,
sponsoring the players. nike did highlight increasing soccer sales. they really need a win from the u.s. or brazil, those are two of their key marketable teams that they're sponsoring in the world cup. adidas has germany, so that's going to be a face-off. but certainly nike is getting a boost. should rise today in the market. we're also watching for a new ipo. michael's, the craft store, is going public. the largest craft store in the country. they have more than a thousand stores. scrapbooking, if you do scrapbooking, you know these stores. it will be an interesting test of retail appetite. retail has been having problems with the surge in online shopping so we'll see if investors want a piece of michael. consumer sentiment numbers coming just before 10:00 a.m. consumer sentiment has been strong. it's actually add a six-year high. we need that. 70% of this economy is consumer spending. if the u.s. consumer is not feeling good, then our economy is not in good shape.
next week with him be a big one for jobs as well. we've got the jobs report next friday, guys. >> sara, thank you very much. have a great weekend. up next, the case of the boy who was missing for 11 days, only to turn up in his family's basement. >> oh, my gosh. >> yeah. the father found out on live television and the police chief is saying he has never, never seen a case like this. we have the new developments next. this is the first power plant in the country
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a 12-year-old detroit boy is out of the hospital this morning -- >> this is strange. we don't get this story, mika. >> i don't. after going missing for a week and a half, a widespread search was on for the boy until he was found after 11 days in his father's basement. and that's not the only twist. nbc's ron mott joins us from detroit with the new developments. ron. >> reporter: hey, mika, good morning to you. the story just seems to get more mysterious and intriguing by the day. so here's what we know, the latest. the young boy, charlie, is out of the hospital and staying with his mother and other relatives this morning. yesterday his step mom got arrested on an unrelated charge and police are still trying to piece together exactly what happened here. charlie may have feared punishment from his father for not finishing his daily workout routine, 4,000 strides on an elliptical machine sources tell an nbc affiliate, wdiv.
>> i'm glad he's safe, i'm thankful. >> his father charles didn't have much to say publicly as questions swirled around the discovery that young charlie was in his basement 11 days after the boy disappeared. and as he was wednesday night, the elder bothel was back on tv with nancy grace thursday night. >> nancy, i just want to thank you for bringing attention for my son. >> reporter: this time on the phone. >> why won't police let you see the boy? where is he? >> you know, i'm breaking a no comment rule, but i was briefly on the phone with him when he called my mother. >> reporter: just 24 hours earlier, bothel had learned charlie was alive when grace told him on national tv. >> charlie, we are getting reports that your son has been found in your basement. sir? mr. bothel -- >> what? how could your son be alive in
your basement? >> i have -- i have no idea. >> reporter: police discovered the boy while serving a search warrant on the home. earlier searches revealed blood traces, leaving police to think young charlie could be in danger. >> the police came, i was here. they went all over the house. >> reporter: police found the 12-year-old in the family's basement, similar in layout and size to a neighbor's basement shown here. police say charlie was crouched down in a two foot by four foot storage room concealed behind stacks of boxes in a heavy plastic drum. there was a palette and some bedding along with food and drinks inside the small space. late thursday, police arrested the boy's stepmother, monique dillard bothel for a probation violation over unrelated weapons charges. her two young children were removed from the home where charlie lived with his father. now, we understand police are close to turning over their case file to the prosecutor's office.
that could happen as early as today. of course that could mean criminal charges might be filed here. mika, joe, back to you guys. >> okay, ron mott, thank you very much. >> john, you look skeptical, john. >> well, you know, they searched the house and then suddenly the kid turned up a little later. so it just raises some questions about where he was and, you know -- they had searched that basement apparently. >> i say let's trust nancy grace to get to the bottom of it. >> up next -- >> kids do the darndest things. this is one of the strangest things since the balloon boy. >> and somehow the fact the stepmother has been arrested on unrelated weapons charges. i somehow feel like any weapons charges may not be totally unrelated. >> who amongst us has not faced a weapons charge. >> as long as it's unrelated, everything's fine. >> where does this rank with balloon boy. >> balloon boy was so much crazy. >> his dad was insane. >> the irish nachos.
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before we find out what we learned today, president obama this morning responding to the planned lawsuit by speaker john boehner over the use of executive power. take a listen. >> i'm not going to apologize for trying to do something when they're doing nothing. >> even if you get sued? >> you know, the suit is a stunt. but what i've told speaker boehner directly is if you're really concerned about me taking too many executive actions, why don't you try getting something done through congress. the majority of american people want to see immigration reform done. we had a bipartisan bill through the senate. and you're going to squawk if i try to fix some parts of it administratively that are within my authority while you are not doing anything? >> okay. well, the suit is a stunt. mark halperin. >> that was pretty fiesty. i learned that tim howard and ed
gillespie are both pretty good at handling tough questions. tim howard on the biting question. >> navigated well. >> sam. >> i learned that you should put all your money on team usa. they're going to go the distance. you heard it here first. seriously. >> i agree, put it all there. >> except for the fact i learned that joe scarborough doesn't love america quite as much as he says. >> oh, that's insulting. >> picking france to win the world cup? picking france? picking france? >> you need tim howard's help. >> you're looking like bill clinton right now. about to touch your face. >> okay. >> what did you learn? >> i learned actually after watching the match with a lot of you yesterday, i'm watching tuesday. i'll be at a -- >> tuesday! >> and you'll flip a table, as needed. >> i will flip a table. that was really fun. i love it, i'm in. >> for irish nachos. >> wrap it up. >> if it's way too early, it's
"morning joe." as always, thank you so much for your patience. >> good-bye, john. >> and have a great weekend. and right now stick around because "the daily rundown" is coming up straight ahead. >> have a good one. you know that road to 1600 is getting shorter by the day, but some recent notes for the duo of presidential politics, it doesn't look so hot right now. an exclusive chat with the famous ex-conmayor, buddy cianci wants to head back to city hall and he's coming on to tell us why. and on the heels of a supreme court law, a lawsuit by speaker boehner, president obama speaks out about his executive actions. >> you know, the sult suit is a stunt. what i've told speaker boe