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good morning. i'm richard lui in for jose. our first focus this morning is e boll lap. the obama administration considering new steps to stop ebola from becoming a national outbreak included additional screens for airline passengers entering the u.s. from the ebola hot zone and cdc personnel at four u.s. airports. jfk in new york, chicago, new jersey, and washington. a nurse in spain has tested positive for ebola after caring for a priest who died from ebola. s the first transmission from one person to another outside of africa. the first patient diagnosed with ebola in the united states is in critical condition. she he's receiving a experimental drug. ashoka mukpo is undergoing treatment in nebraska. he'll get an experimental drug
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for treatment. dr. nancy schneiderman and her team arriving in the usa they were checked by health official upon arrival all feeling well and in good risk. they'll stay home and monitor their temperature for the remain of the 21-day recommended by health authorities. let's head to tom costello live in washington. tom, what would the airport screenings look like? >> i think it's going to look pretty much like it does already. they want to put more cdc personnel on the ground at the four critical airports you mentioned. because 75% of the passengers come from west africa come to or through the airports as their major transit points. the thinking is if they can check people when they're coming through the airports it would be a good gate if you will or good check point to watch for anybody who might have an elevated temperature or also do thorough
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questioning of the individuals to ask where have you been. part of the problem here is that assuming you caught a flight from brussels to washington, d.c., if it was part of one single ticket where you originated in liberia customs and border patrol would know you originated in liberia. if you bought one ticket and a second ticket on your own brussels to washington customs and border patrol may not know you were in liberia. they want to a thorough investigative questions to ask questions where have you been. have you been in an ebola hot zone and hopefully do a more thorough analysis of this individual's risk profile and take their temperature. >> nbc tom costello. thank you. joining us now dr. cory, a professor at the lsu health center. doctor, when you look at the screenings that tom costello was describing at airports, how effective do you think they might be in stopping ebola in coming to the united states. >> i'll is a that will they be
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very effect i? probably not. will they help? probably so. the reason why is because we know it's a needle in a haystack to find someone that actually has ebola infection coming across the border. there's no way you can check everybody. you have to remember that you're only contagious when you're showing symptoms. think about this. a person gets on a plane, they come over to the united states, they answer all the questions, they get check for their body temperature and all that stuff and they have no symptoms. just like the young man that is in dallas that has ebola. he didn't have any symptoms. he gets through, you know, customs and then he lands in newark and ends up in a newark hospital because he started having symptoms at that point. so, you know, asking questions and probing questions could help screen a little bit but it's really not going to as effective as a lot of people think. >> the other development in the last 24 hours is the nurse in spain. the first case outside of west
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africa we've become aware contracted outside of west africa. what is your assessment of what that might mean going forward and the way they were able to determine that case in spain. >> well, i think it's so important that we as health care professionals as well as the general public have to recognize that this is a break down in protocols. we have a virus bigger than ebola we deal with every day in hospitals around the country. make no mistakeç measles is mo contagious than ebola. let's think about that. what happens is we're used to doing things in a certain way. when we do it for 20 years in a hospital, we're not as, you know, steadfast in staying toward the protocol we need to stay toward. what happened, i think, in this situation as well as some of the situations that are happening in west africa is that people are not sticking to the protocol at hand. we know what we're supposed to do. and we do what we're supposed to
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do you will not get ebola. that's the bottom line. i want people to understand that. you have to stick with the protocol. we just tend not to do that. i think that's what happened in spain. >> let's turn to the patients that are receiving experimental drugs. we're told that ashoka mukpo will be receiving that experimental drug treatment while thomas duncan receiving an experimental drug. what are the experimental drugs? >> we have broad spectrum anti-virals. these are experimental. some of the anti-retrovitals. they don't kill viruss. sometimes they do. sometimes they don't. that's why they're called experimental drugs. >> how do they decide to give them any number of these? >> what happens is we look at the profile of the experiment and sometimes some of the drugs are so toxic to the liver or to the kidneys and if they already have liver problems, or kidney problems you can't give that particular drug.
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but we have so many drugs we use for hiv, fdr virus. that's what we use out there. there's no real protocol to say what you should use. we know zmapp we don't have anymore. >> would you call it the kitchen sink approach? >> i would. but i would like to be a little more specific. we know most of the drugs that we're using they do have a profile to be able to dill or at least stop the growth of virus in the body. >> all right. thank you so much for your time today. >> we're also watching new developments overseas where isis is gaining ground despite a new round of air strikes by the u.s. and the allies. the syrian border about to fall to isis, which would represent a major victory for the terrorist group. as we follow the developments from syria. we're learning more details about an american accused of wanting to join isis.
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19-year-old mohammed hamzah khan has a court date on thursday after being arrested at o'hare airport in chicago last weekend. for that story we go to nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. what is kahn charged with now? and what do prosecutors say he was planning to do? >> attempting to provide material support to a terror organization is what he's charged with. for the last well over a decade the government used the statute whether you're trying to give them specific money or equipment or whether you're trying to provide yourself. that's the allegation here. they say he had a ticket to fly from o'hare to vienna and then from vienna to istanbul. from there he would try to join up with isis in syria or arreir. they arrested him at the airport. at his house he found an notebook which he's written there's an obligation to my grate to the islamic state. he said he was upset with the
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decline of western societies writing this, we are all witnesses that the western societies are getting more and more immoral day by day. i don't want to bring my kids up in that. he extended his invitation to his family to join him. the fbi said they questioned him after the arrest, gave him the miranda warning and admitted he was planning to go with isis. he would meet up with someone he established communications with online who would get him into isis. the fbi said he told them he wanted to be involved in what he called some type of public service like a police force, humanitarian work, or a combat role. richard the court documents here are fairly bare bones which leads to some speculation there may be more to the case than meets the eye. we don't know what it was that was the trip flier what got the fbi on to him. whether it was the mere fact he
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was tripping a short flight to istanbul and back. it's the gateway for many people to get into isis. i suspect we'll learn more about the case in the coming days. >> thank you so much. let's bring in msnbc contributor former assistant special agent in charge. let's start where pete left us with. that's what more might not be written in that report? >> i think there were two critical things. number one, who purchased the plane ticket for kahn. it wasn't himself. it was $4,000. where did the money come from? a cooperator with the government, did it come from a bad guy? did it come from -- we don't know yet. the other piece that is striking there's an named individual in the complaint. this person, according to kahn
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met individual c online. and individual c was supposed to provide a contact. once he got to turkey and that contact would get him into syria or iraq. again, who is this person? is this person known to the government? i would assume yes. is it somebody that is cooperating with the government or is it somebody that the government is targeting or perhaps another foreign intelligence agency is targeting. but for operational security that was left out of the complaint. there are still a lot of unknowns, i suspect. the government does a lot more information, i suspect. but all that aside, there's still a lot of work to be done at the local level. who else is in his circle of friends and family. how did they come recruited? obviously he was online -- >> part of one or many. >> right. and how did he get radicalized? it was all online? in person, in core combination? >> the difficult decision that you've been involved with before
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is at what point do you stop it. he's going to stop him now. but why not let him make the further contacts and then stop those individuals as well? >> once he leaves the country it's the equation becomes exponentially more difficult. you're dealing with foreign intelligence agencies. you're dealing -- if he moves into an area that is outside of control then who knows what he's going to be exposed to. then you come back to the equation that everybody is worried about and the fbi director spoke about it last week. you have americans that go to syr syria, they get the training, the indocket nation then there are people over there from core al qaeda and other groups that might take them and say listen if you're more valuable to us to go home and take the fight back to the u.s. don't stay here and fight. take it home. >> that's the fear isn't? ? big time. we saw it in 2009 with
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individuals that were involved in the subway plot. they went to afghanistan to receive training. their intent was to fight there. they were turned around to bring the fight here. >> give me a sense of your confidence based on the information they have so far in the way the intelligence community is handling these sorts of cases. this is the 13th american that was either accused of joining or trying to join isis and the el noose are a front in syria. >> i believe they have a pretty good handle. you don't know what you don't know. but listening to the fbi director, it sounds like they absolutely know who the 12 are, at least, and there will be plans in place when those people try to move. again, the real key is how many'res are in this pipeline. where are they in this continue radicalization to the point where they're trying to reach out and find a way to get over there. and this is a real challenge
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because the vast number of people online and toying with the idea. it's a challenge for law enforcement. >> all right. thank you very much. appreciate your time on this. happening right now at the supreme court the case of a beard and religious freedom. and lining up to get married in several states after the high court does not take a stance on same-sex marriage. what happens next after the break. charlie, the demand on this network, it is increasing by the second. it's crazy, huh? and people are relying on it more than ever. we cover more than 99% of all americans. i know, i can't imagine living without it. it's a place where people can come share knowledge and ideas. it's beautiful. that's deep charlie. my selfie just hit a hundred likes...(gasps) a hundred! at&t is building you a better network.
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we planned for august. e were going to d.c. but i think the opportunity presented itself a little sooner so we wanted to take advantage of that. >> lots of smiles. that was a case monday in five states across the country from virginia to oklahoma to utah.
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same sex cups lined up to say their vows after the supreme court decided not to review five same-sex marriage bans making marriage legal in those five states. . will likely lead to same-sex marriage in six more states bringing the number of a total of 30 states. texas republican senator ted cruz called the situation tragic and indefensible. mary fall lynn on the impact to her state. buzz feed legal editor joins us. you look at this and wrote about it extensively in the past. what happened in the lead up in the six other states. is expected to have legal same-sex marriage soon. >> yes. i mean, rich afford, this was not the decision that most of us were expecting. we were expecting the court to take one of these seven petitions that were before the
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justices, but they rejected all of the appeals. so that's why those five states immedia immediately started as soon as the process through the appeals court could handle itself yesterday started allowing same-sex couples to marry. what is happening is within the fourth circuit and the tenth circuit, there are these six other states that you mentioned that have now the law of that circuit because of the decisions that were left in place yesterday. the law of the circuit is their marriage ban is unconstitutional and so in the case of colorado, the attorney general has already filed a motion in court asking for the case apeopled to be dismissed so same-sex couples can marry in colorado. we've gotten some conflicting rulings or opinions from the
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wyoming and south carolina officials saying they intend to defend their ban in court but the law of the circuit is clear. it just needs to reach a judge's desk, i think, until those states will be done as well. >> you have the 30 states, chris. is there a case making the way to the supreme court that you're watching that might be heard that might stop same-sex marriage in of the locations? >> not in any of the 30 states, but there are other federal cases that are pending. there's the one that justice ginsburg mentioned in a speech at the university of minnesota. that's in the sixth circuit michigan, ohio, koientucky and tennessee. the arguments were held at the beginning of august. we don't have a decision from the three-judge panel that heard the case. those arguments, it was clear there was one judge that wanted to uphold the ban. there was one judge that wanted
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to strike them down. but in the center was judge jeffrey sutton. a george w. bush appointee but also has the notable position of having upheld obamacare when it came to the sixth circuit. he was very much in the middle on the case. i was there at the arguments. it was three hours of arguments, and he was clearly struggling with kbha to do. i would say if nothing else the supreme court's action yesterday gave him a push in favor of the striking down the bans because the one issue that he had was this old 1970s case where the court had passed on the marriage issue. he questioned whether he should uphold it based on that. i think it's clear from yesterday that the supreme court z isn't going to be relying on that. >> thank you so much. appreciate your time. >> thank you, richard. up next local police stripped of their powers in
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>> you saw there police tased jones, took him in custody for allegedly resisting arrest. the police department defends the police officer saying they acted in the interest of their own safety and in accordance with the law there. expect to learn more when the family and their attorneys will hold a news conference on their lawsuit. mexico crack down and a weather alert. let's zoom through some of today's other top stories. mexican federal officials have disarmed local police. some local officer were implicated in an attack that left six students dead and 43 missing. the police conspired with gang members to carry out the attack. they're trying to determine if 28 bodies found in mass graves are students. hail pounding the ground for up to half an hour. the ground in louisville, kentucky briefly looked like winter. dangerous storms on the move
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today. hail and high winds are threatening part of the ohio valley and the south. the system moves into the northeast tonight. rain expected to be a major problem through the week. moisture from tropical storm simon expected to bring flash flooding to arizona, new mexico, and colorado. that same area was hit last month by the remanents of hurricanes. dallas and the ebola crisis there. including the experimental treatment the patient is receiving. and this. >> i may wonder but i will never be far from home. >> bill clinton to the rescue. how well is arkansas turning out for him? >> so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates.
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emergency rooms with mock symptoms to test the triage process. a small hospital in ohio hanging signs telling patients to dispose if they have traveled to west africa. thomas eric duncan is being treated with an experimental drug. what are we hearing now the cdc about duncan's status. it was exactly a week ago the case was confirmed. >> that's right. here in dallas at this hospital he's receiving treatment. what we're hearing from the hospital he's in critical but stable condition. accounts from people on the medical team speaking on background and individuals within his family paint a lightly darker picture of the current condition including the detail we've had corroborated by multiple sources he's on a
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dieial sis machine. he's far from out of the wood. a lot of reason to be concerned for the family. this is several days after he began treatment with an experimental new drug. >> speaking of the experimental new drug with concerns that offers hope. what do we know about the drugs? >> in is a drug not the zmapp treatment used in other sources of treatment here in the united states. because zmapp is not available in large enough quantities. they tested the drug in a lab on thomas eric duncan's blood. it was apparently successful in that context. obviously it's a wait and see game to see if it's successful in a practical application. >> duncan is the index patient. from there we have as many as 100 of the chain of transmission. now down to 48. the number hasn't changed since sunday map do we know about the latest on them. >> the 48 the mayor of dallas
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came out today and said we have zero symptoms. a lot of reason for hope there. obviously people are transmisble unless they're showing symptoms. there's a lot of concern in the community, richard. people, in some cases, people are kids their home from school. dallas said they're going distribute new high-tech touch free the therm meters to test people. ten came in contact with thops eric duncan. of those seven are health care workers. many are family members including his girlfriend who has been moved to an undisclosed location. they're not calling it quarantine. none are showing symptoms. they're staying shut in while they wait the incubation period. >> we'll have more on the ebola
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crisis later today at 1:00 p.m. eastern. don't miss that. by some numbers, it's a tight race for the senate in arkansas. for the senate seat there. now getting a jolt from the democratic big dog. >> i may wanderer, i may roam, but i will never be far from home. arkansas you run deep in me. vote your heart. don't vote for what they tell you you have to be against. vote for what you know you should be for. >> former president clil ton returning home to lend a hand to senator pryor. pryor is in a tight race for the senate. clinton continues his campaign duties today beginning in fayetteville, arkansas. that's where casey hunt joins us now. good morning. what is the word on bill clinton's impact so far. he hasn't skipped a beat. he's still got it. is he getting more vote into the pryor column?
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>> that was pretty classic bill clinton. he was greeted like a rock star here even by pryor who took a selfie with the president. it's whether or not whether president clinton can sway democratic voters away from president obama. whether he can convince them that the democratic party still the party of clinton and not the party of obama. whether or not his being here is going to be able to actually accomplish that, we're not going to find out until november. >> you have the opportunity to catch up with pryor's opponent congressman tom cotton. let's play a little bit of that and get your reaction. >> i'm not worried about bill clinton for mark pryor. it's not bill clinton on the ballot. it's barack obama. his policies are in the bottom ballot. >> so so interesting the way he answered your question here.
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he's intimating that president obama is the kryptonite for pryor and not clinton. you noted yesterday there wasn't one sign at the rally that said democrat on it. >> yeah. no the democrat was completely absent from the signs here. there wasn't that many pryor signs visible in the crowd. i think what you heard from congressman cotton was remarkable. he had great words for clinton because he worked with a republican congress and president obama is doing none of that. he also declined to criticize hillary clinton. i asked him if she would make a good president in 2016. he didn't take the opportunity, which for somebody who is a pretty conservative member of a party that spends a lot of time criticizing hillary clinton over issues like benghazi. i thought it was pretty remarkab remarkable. >> on the point how much does cotton need clinton voters there?
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>> he actually needs them quite a bit. and these are the voters that are swaying this state from what was a solidly democratic state. tom cotton's parents were clinton voters. they are obviously cotton supporters. these are definitely people cotton needs to court. as we can see from the poll it is an extremely tight race. some are trying to say right pryor it's not something incompetitive play on the map but that's yet to be seen. thank you so much. joining me now is the -- good morning to both of you. jackie, starting with this and talking about the bill clinton effect as we were doing with casey. a new poll showing he's the only big name surrogate in either party who helps a candidates's fairvelt favorability here. will it translate to the poll? >> one of the interesting things clinton said voters don't have the luxury of staying home. he's trying to rally the base.
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the other interesting thing about the poll not only does clinton help with the base. he pulls independence and that's what democrats need. >> amanda, turning to a big name the nonclinton. former governor upbush releasing three ads by the chamber of commerce for three gop candidates colorado, california, and arizona. the point here all three were in spanish. he spoke this in spanish. is jeb bush there for the only big gop name that can help with the latino american vote? >> he certainly one of the only few. as jackie said they're trying to pull in some more independents. this election is not exciting many voters. i think something like 15% of voters say they're paying attention. the ones paying attention how much will actually turn out on election day. so right now getting these big names like jeb bush and bill clinton is getting more people to try to pay attention to the election and try to eventually turn out on election day. >> more on the ads.
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i'll read a little bit of translation from spanish. what jeb bush says in his ad he calls garther in, quote, a good man willing to buck his own party. that's a translation. is that the right message to republican voters they will buck the new platform? >> in colorado it is. colorado voters wanted immigration reform. udall supported it. that's one of the things that is going to be a big issue in that state. and other places not so much. which, you know, looking to 2016 that's going to be jeb bush's biggest challenge if he decides to run given his support for comprehensive immigration reform. >> another point made here as we look at this in the spanish ads it's translated cory sports the hard working and entrepreneurial spirit of the latin community. when you look at that, how does that juxtaposition with the lack of support for immigration reform? even though in the ad he's saying they're entrepreneurial?
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>> i think that is really tough for cory gardener. cory gardener is in a different position than many other republicans in his party. he's trying to appear significantly more moderate. he needs to appeal to are a l.a. teen and women voters. that's why some of these more established main stream surrogates may help him better rather than getting someone like you won't probably see people like ted cruz coming into colorado. >> probably not. jeb bush is he sacrificing some of his political credibility, if you will, as he looks toward 2016, perhaps. he might get some fall out from conservatives. >> i don't think so. jeb bush will have to face it. it gives out more what he believes in. i want to say something about ted cruz. cruz may not be able to go to colorado but he's going kansas to campaign for pat roberts with
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tom coburn. they're trying to get conservatives excited about that race because of the enthusiasm gap for pat roberts who is right now trailing an independent. so while, again, it's all about where the ad is. colorado jeb bush, kansas ted cruz. >> yeah. local, local, local. amanda, another potential surrogate that could be killer app if you will. michelle obama. >> she's incredibly popular. in is a smart move. in is not traditional for many first lady's. laura bush, barbara bush you didn't see them on the campaign trail during midterm going out for the candidates. michelle obama is going to her home state of illinois trying to defend the incumbent governor there. get people excited. she's incredibly popular. it could get more voters excited and to the polls. >> thank you. isis advances about to take over a syrian border town. why it may be a bigger gain than the city itself for the dangerous militant group.
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another round of u.s. and ally air strikes. joins us is washington editor at large for the atlantic and msnbc contributor. does the fall of -- i mention it's been back and forth over the last several days. we've been watching it care think at the moment. if they get the town does it solidify all of northern iraq for isis. is the fall bigger than just the fall? >> it's fall is huge. it's enormously significant. it's significant from a psychological perspective in the gut punch it will create for the peshmerga which are one of the best fighting forces in the world. strategic ukly it solidify's isis' control of the moment a keyboarder town that goes into syria. it puts them a notch closer to what they say their aspiration of is a caliphate or area of territory that runs across the borders. i'm very worried about the humid impact of this.
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i'm also worried about the weapons carbohydra s cashes tha peshmerga in fuelling isis in the ability to live off what it kills. to live off what it conquers and absorbs and move further. so strategically it's important. this is all after massive air strikes from a massive group of allies. it's showing itself to be resilient. >> it's disconcerting. >> isis is threatening to talk more than kobani. since the weekend we've seen a couple of cities getting under isis control. key locations. when you look at the data from the defense department a they provide more information what they're being able to take out. you mention the ability for the u.s. military and these large efforts being made. what is they need. what is the big win they need despite seeing all the movement from isis. basically success of isis over the last three or four days
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>>well, i think what is worrisome is that while isis seems able command and control. it didn't work it seems. isis is scoring big victories, potential victory in kobani. i should emphasize it hasn't happened as of yet. at the same time in iraq in areas very far from kobani isis has been making progress. it's not an enormous fighting force but an incredibly effective fighting force that is operating in different fronts. we're trying to hit those with our allies various parts of it. they're proving to be resilient. able to continue the command and control and continuing to take territory. i think what it's going to take is something different than what we're doing. it's clear air strikes as we're doing them are not enough, and isis is organized itself to be able to absorb those shocks and
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continue to roll. so i don't know what the answer is. people jump too quickly sometimes to ground troops, but it's clearly not working at this point >>well, speaking of which. let's go to leon panetta on what he suggested. >> what we would like to do if they have the opposition forces is be the boots on the ground. that is not enough, if the military says we have to do more, then i think the president ought to be open to that. >> boots on the ground. you just said individuals are moving too quick to significant that. there's apache helicopters, for the first time involved in isis air strikes in iraq. might that be a middle step. are there real advantages to using the helicopters versus ground troops? i can't weigh in one way or another on the military effort. what i worry about is what we think is isis is something much larger. it's a collusion of a lot of sunni tribes. while there's a military response we're talking about. we need to turbo charge whatever
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it takes to peel off many of those tribes we work with in the past and to handicap isis' ability, control, and confidence over what it thinks it is by bringing some of those colluding with it away. that is, if i were advising the powers that be something i would be pushing right now in addition to the military action. >> steve clemons, thank you so much. i'm moving to breaking news we have at msnbc. also regarding terrorism. getting this out of the u.k. british police have arrested four men in london. we're getting that in. they're accused of plotting a terror attack. they were taken into custody after raids across the city. the arrest and searches were part an ongoing investigation. we'll keep you posted on any new developments. british police arresting four men in london accused of plotting a terror attack. the breaking news into msnbc just now. hundreds of children across the country are in the hospital
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find new ways to save energy and money with pg&e's business energy check-up. concerns are increasing about the spread of enterovirus d 68 after it caused the death of a 4-year-old boy in new jersey. the cdc saying itjo5d confirme cases in 4i states and the district of columbia so far. nearly 600 cases have been confirmed. most are children. cleveland hospital doctors join us. because the symptom the are so similar between the common cold and enterovirus how can they tell the difference. at what point do they make the move to say test my child? >> you can't tell the difference between the virus and cold or flu viruss that are circulates. they're starting to come up around this time of year. the question is when to talk to a doctor about testing or when
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should you be concerned about bad enterovirus disease is when your child is having a tough time breathing. when they're struggling to catch their breath. when they're coughing, when breathing too fast. you should be talking to your pediatrician then. they can decide whether or not they want to send a swab or sample. >> what do they say if the doctor says we can't do the test if we gave the test to every parent that is concerned about this at this point, we wouldn't be able to keep up. >>well, the answer is a lot of times we see someone who has a virus. we don't test them to figure out what the virus is. it depends on how sick the child is. most individuals we see and we've seen a lot of enterovirus here. when they need to go to the intensive care unit. they need to have breathing support. that's when we say we need to figure out whether or not it's a virus we can treat or one of the other viruss that all we need to do is support. most people are not going to
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require any treatment. most children will get through the enterovirus fine. >> as we hit the high season of enterovirus. at what point can parents go, okay, they can at least feel a little bit better that the worst is over. what time of the year? >> unfortunately we are getting into the time of year where it's going to be worst. this is a time when the weather starts getting colder, when winter arrives. this is actually the beginning of the peek for when we start seeing a lot of viruss. not just enterovirus but rhino virus, flu coming in. in is when we start talking about everybody getting the flu shots. this is actually not just the begin of the virus season. you probably won't be able to breathe easy for any of the viruss until probably april or may. >> 15 second here. could young children contract enterovirus by going to the emergency room where parents are taking them? >> we're part of a world filled with germs. you can get it at the emergency
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department or within your own daycare center. the best thing you can do is good hand washing and good cough control. that will prevent the spread. >> thank you so much, sir. that wraps up this hour on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time on this day. next on newsation tamron hall will have live coverage on the pentagon hearing on h. ♪ ♪ ♪
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information live. president obama announced that some of the nation's airports will ramp up passenger screening to prevent anymore ebola cases to enter the country. that could include initials taking temperatures and asking questions. some key questions. also, new details from dallas, texas where the first patient diagnosed with ebola in the united states is being treated. thomas eric duncan is receiving an experimental drug. in nebraska nbc freelance photojournalist ashoka mukpo will also be given an experimental medication to fight the ebola virus. his parents say he's in good spirits as he begins the first full day of treatment today. meantime we're also learning a nurse in spain has become infected with ebola. it is the first case of ebola transmitted outside of west africa. joining me now to begin our coverage is nbc tom costello. tom is monitoring the u.s. response from

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