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matter, viewer discretion is just trip over something? >> i don't remember, man. >> you don't remember. somebody help you fall? >> no. >> prison staff suspect an inmate is covering up his own brutal beating. >> i don't like using the same broom that everybody else uses. because then i'm just bringing their funk into my cell. >> two cell mates share deeply disturbing charges.
>> when i was a younger, i was a very, very bad person. something was broken. >> i ended up buying a chain saw and cutting her corpse in about 15 different pieces. one victim's mother still lives the nightmare. >> i go by the dumpster and i wonder if that is one of my daughter's last resting places. ♪ lock up lock up, everybody lock up ♪ plucked from death row an inmate tries to make a difference. >> note amazing grace. >> at the end of the day life is about choices. all of this stuff is an illusion.
indiana's wabash valley correctional facility houses nearly 2200 inmates. more than one-third of them are doing time for serious violent crimes. unless isolated in solitary confinement, the vast majority of inmates live in two-man cells. pairings are critical and avoiding a volatile mix of cell mates is a constant challenge. >> we try to not put people doing life with people who are going home next year or blacks with whites or white supremist with somebody who might have a child molestation case, just to resolve the conflict before it happens. >> but even with careful screening conflicts can still arise between cell mates. >> there is a guy in the infirmary has received several injuries to his facial and head
area. at this point, he is saying he had a seizure. we will try to talk to him. he may have been assaulted with a hot pot. we're going to talk to him and see if he is willing to talk at all. >> the victim is curtis cash, who is serving a 29-year sentence for burglary. >> cash? >> yeah. >> what's up with you, man? >> you can stay laid down if you want to? what happened? >> fell. >> where? >> in my cell. >> did you get dizzy? >> i don't remember. >> have you fell like this before since you have been here? >> no. >> do you have a medical condition that would make you fall? >> no. >> you just trip over something? >> i don't remember. >> you don't remember. somebody help you fall? >> no. >> no? is it safe to assume that probably something more than you falling happened that you just don't want to talk about? >> i don't -- >> who do you live with?
>> woods. >> woods? >> yeah. >> what's his first name? >> i don't know. >> how long did you guys live together? >> probably eight months. >> eight months. and you think you are safe going right back to the same cell you was in? >> yeah. >> you don't think you'll fall again? >> no. >> you think for whatever reason you fell for this time is over with and you won't fall more? >> should be. >> you understand where we're coming from. we've got to protect you. >> i fell. >> you don't want to talk about what happened? >> trying to get medical attention. >> i will get you all fixed up. they've done x-rays, right? >> he reported that he had fallen in his cell, which is typical in prison instead of
snitching on anybody. they say they feel or had a seizure. it looks like his jaw is broken or his orbital is fractured. staff think that something was done with a hot pot. there was a hot pot inside cell that was broke. the cell mate is in cuffs. >> the cell mate is dana woods serving 70 years for aggravated battery and confinement. >> there was an incident in the cell. >> the man fell. >> pretty substantial injuries for just falling. >> i'm sure that the man has epileptic seizures. >> there was a lot of blood in the cell. >> right. he had a good gash on his head. >> how did the hot pot get broke? >> the hot pot? >> it was in the cell. >> we were fixing a hot pot before and it had been in the trash the whole time. >> i can tell you i have been here 15 years and ain't nobody
ever had a fall that looked like that. >> he fell on the bed. >> i'm not going to tell you what he told me just like i wouldn't tell anybody else what you told me if you were beat up. i'm not going to start doing that now. he might have told me he fell and he might have told me you beat the [ bleep ] out of him. >> that didn't happen. >> you are running around here assaulting people and i'm convinced you did this. it's not a simple fall, but you're not going to man up and tell me why it happened. >> the man sprayed blood all over the place. >> that's not the truth at all and we both know it. so -- i'll -- i'll make different housing arrangements for you if you don't want to actually tell me what was going on. he's maintaining the story that nothing happened, that he didn't do anything. the guy fell. so at this point, you know, we'll go in and look at the cell
and see what it looks like. >> while violence between cell mates is always a possibility in prison, for phillip stroud and curtis, living together has had the opposite effect. >> is that that diabetic peanut butter? >> it has no taste to it. >> put the cookie on the peanut butter. that sound like a snack, don't it? >> i can't have anymore snacks. i have to get rid of this stomach. >> dear heavenly father, we thank you for this meal. >> old curt. curt is a good brother, man. he's a gentle giant. he brought a lot of balance into my life. we have been cellies for almost two years. >> stroud never imagined he'd have a cell mate. he used to be housed on indiana's death row living alone in a cell awaiting execution. >> i'm in prison for three counts of murder, three counts
of robbery, and two counts of dealing in cocaine. i spent three years on death row. >> went on a robbery, a half a million dollar score. it was a residence, a safe. three people, three innocent people, end up losing their life when they didn't have to. they didn't deserve to. >> stroud's victims were contractors working at the home stroud and his accomplices robbed. stroud ordered the men tied up and then shot each in the head with a pistol. >> when i first walked on death row, the thing that hit me first was the silence.
the absolute silence. walking on there was like the type of silence that takes you in, the type of silence that's listening to you, watching your every move to see how you're going to respond to it. i came on the unit 23 years old, trying to project courage, confidence and strength but on the inside, i was upset. i was confused and i was afraid. the thing i remember the most was the cold concrete floor underneath my bare feet. and it just sitting on the edge of that bunk, man, and i just broke down and started crying and crying for all the people that i hurt, crying for justice, crying for my mother. you know what i mean? and during these three years, seven men, you know, were executed. they lost their lives.
>> a change in indiana's capital punishment laws saved stroud from joining them. his sentence was commuted to three life terms without the possibility of parole. but stroud's salvation did not immediately make him a better inmate. >> i was the thug of them all. like paul said, i was a chief among all sinners. i was the bullies' bully. i could make things move how i want to make them move. you know what i mean? that was just a gift that i had. >> that all changed when he found himself sharing a cell with mcgrown who is serving 40 years for armed robbery and criminal confinement. >> when i first came over from the in-house, he was real rough around the edges, but me being a mellow type guy, you know, i'm a low key guy. god came through me to help
straighten him out a little bit. >> starting to thin out on the top. >> that's my sunroof. >> your convertible. >> bald head brothers is in. women like bald headed dudes. >> he's changed a whole lot. i'm proud that god used me to work with him after his reputation around the prison and on the street. i'm just thankful that i can be used and i've got a brother like this that has brought so much balance to my life. >> just as he credits mcgrown with helping him become a better man, stroud says he's determined to pay it forward. he spends his free time tutoring other inmates, who are trying to earn their g.e.d. >> what is the answer? >> the front. >> no. the opposite of left is --? >> i'm tripping. >> don't get [ indiscernible ] now. >> we just here trying to offer critical thinking skills, conflict resolution, ways to settle disputes without using violence. just use the platform and the
creditability that we do have from our past lives to try to effect positive change on these youngster's lives in here and on the streets. >> you're doing good, man. you catch on quick, man. for real, for real. coming up two cell mates with two unthinkable crimes. and later -- >> what have you seen so far? >> prison surveillance footage provides a new view as investigators try to figure out what happened to curtis cash and whether his cell mate should bear the blame. ste better in ouy broth. vegetables!? no...soup! oh! soup! loaded with vegetables. packed with taste. when folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states,
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>> i don't like using the same broom that everybody else uses because then i'm just bringing their funk into my cell. >> when do you think we're doing spring cleaning? >> it's not going to be today. i'm already cleaning the floor. >> that's fine. i was just asking. i will make time for it sometime over the weekend. >> sunday just plan on sunday. >> cell mates for a year these two might have different priorities but they share the stigma of having separately committed unthinkable crimes. >> from day one, i've known that the things that i've done, even among criminals, was way, way off it, you know, into the deep
end. when i was a younger, i was a very, very bad person. something was broken. and i just -- i didn't think like other kids my age did. >> trowbridge was 14 years old the day he committed the crimes that brought him to prison. he was high on inhalents and his victim was a 69-year-old female neighbor working in the backyard of her trailer home. >> i see that her front door is open and me being the person that i was that clicked. okay. go get some money. and that was my intent when i went up in there. and she came in and she actually scared me when she came in because i didn't know that she came in.
and i attacked her and i sexually assaulted her and i killed her. and i robbed her. then i left. the poor woman didn't stand a chance. >> prosecutors determined that trowbridge not only strangled his victim but sexually assaulted her after her death. he was sentenced to 77 years for robbery, murder and abuse of a corpse. he has already served 15 and with good behavior could be out of prison by age 50. he lives in wabash's protective custody unit which houses inmates whose lives could be at risk in general population due to the nature of their crimes. his cell mate shares the same
unusual pairing of convictions, murder and abuse of a corpse. he is serving 68 years. the victim was his ex-girlfriend, heather norris. >> it was a toxic relationship. it was love hate and i still very much love her. >> throughout the couple's three-year relationship, heather told her family that bean was physically abusive and even though he faced a trial on domestic abuse charges at the time of heather's murder, he says he wasn't abusive. >> the whole thing is predicated on a lie. and the lie is that we had a violent relationship. i'm not saying i'm without fault. but as far as what happened with her death, worst case voluntary
manslaughter and best case self-defense. >> bean insists that they had an argument and heather came at him with a knife. >> i pried the knife out of her hand and even still after i had the knife, she continued to come for it. and that kind of caught me off guard. and in the heat of the moment, i reacted. i stabbed her in the side right here. >> but according to court records, bean had confessed to a friend that he stabbed heather several times and slit her throat. no one knows for sure because her body was never recovered. >> i decided to try to do something with the body. i thought, well, cremation. but at the time i didn't know the specifics behind it. so i made an attempt to burn her body. a botched attempt.
i ended up buying a chain saw. that's what people can't get past is what happened after. >> coming up the mother of josh bean's victim speaks out. >> i go by a dumpster and i wonder if that is one of my daughter's last resting places. >> but first. >> looks like he probably tried to clean the blood up before the staff arrived. there is blood on the bedding and on the back window. >> the investigators try to determine if a cell is an accident scene or a crime scene. and -- [ music playing ] >> saved from death row, fill
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house cell block has been put on lock down, limiting all movement of inmates until investigators can determine the cause of curtis cash's severe facial injuries. both cash and dana woods claim that cash fell. but frank littlejohn suspects a coverup. >> the suspect probably told the victim don't tell on me. tell them you fell. nobody falls and receives that many injuries. >> littlejohn suspects that woods might have used the hot pot to assault his cell mate. >> this was what was retrooef -- retrieved out of the cell then? >> the hot pot was down in the trash. >> littlejohn's next step is to
check the cell itself. >> you can see a little blood here. looks like he tried to clean the blood up before the staff arrived. there is blood on the bedding and some on the back window. it is probably a little struggle. it looks like he packed his property. that is typical. they pack their stuff up so the officers don't get things mixed up. he is ready to go to segregation. he knew he would be going. >> littlejohn also checks surveillance cell house footage. while there is no coverage inside the cell, he wants to rule the possibility of another assailant entering the cell. >> what have you seen? >> nobody goes up or comes out. >> nobody has been in or out between breakfast or lunch. >> you see the officers are at the cell. this is offender cash. he is the offender with the injuries. this is the cell mate coming out. >> the video doesn't show anything other than the assault
taking place. it shows that nobody entered or exited the cell other than the two and they didn't come out for breakfast or for lunch. >> woods was taken to the custody control unit where he will be locked into a single person cell 23 hours a day pending the final results of the investigation. >> go ahead and strip down. socks and everything. everything. go ahead and put that on. >> they put us in a room. they don't give us no manual to teach us how to live in a box with another man. it's really hard. it's really hard, man. especially when they have a seizure any time and you get blamed for it. >> coming up, joshua bean faces new troubles following a shakedown. >> bean, right? you are presenting positive for
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locked up, yeah. the footsteps you don't want to follow, because life without parole is a hard pill to swallow. tomorrow isn't promised because today isn't finished. i can feel the tension when there's drama in the building because no o, there is nowhere for you to hide. i suggest you stay away from here and follow god. prison life is hard. locked up. locked up, everybody locked up. this ain't the place you want to be because prison life is hard. locked up, locked up, everybody locked up. this ain't the place you want to be because prison life is hard. make different choices than the ones i made. stay free. keep it real. peace. >> though phillip stroud will never live life beyond the
perimeter fences of indiana's wabash valley correctional facility, he has found other means of liberation. ♪ >> music to me is more important than food, more important than water, more important than anything. it makes me free. it just makes me free, you know. ♪ >> stroud leads the prison choir. they perform during sunday church services and at special events and his cell mate curtis mcgrown has been a constant source of help and inspiration. >> you have your choice and you should have made a change. there is nowhere left for you to run or for you to hide. i suggest you stay away from
here and follow god. i know it is hard out on them streets but prison life is harder. >> that is one of the best ones i have heard him sing right there. >> he raps a lot and sings a lot. he will be waking me up at 3:00 to write a rap for church or a letter. i am a mentor toward him. >> what position am i playing in the choir? >> doo-doo-doo-doo. >> i can't doo-doo-doo. >> you look like you can doo-doo-doo. >> you're just stereotyping. >> that's all right. be gone. ♪ amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me ♪ >> once awaiting execution on death row, stroud is now serving
three life sentences without the possibility of parole for murder. >> i'm using my street credibility, my music, to influence them in a different direction because i am mindful that it is a lot of people who do look towards me. ♪ amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me ♪ >> it has been 11 years since the triple murder that brought stroud to prison. for the past several years he has a clean conduct record and says he's committed to becoming a new man, one very different than the one who wreaked havoc on the streets. >> if you had something that that i wanted your girlfriend, your car, your money, your territory, whatever, if i wanted that, i was coming to get that. if you tried to come get it from me, then i was coming to get you. if i'm coming to see you, it was over with.
usually i'd probably be the last person that you'd see. i was the nuclear option. ♪ at the end of the day, life is about choices. all of this stuff is an illusion, the life i led on the streets, the dope dealing, the gang banging, the getting drunk and getting high. if you really want to keep it real, you've got to make better choices than the ones we've made because that life will lead you down one of three paths. death, a life in prison, or an empty existence on the streets. >> one man band. >> while stroud uses music to escape the restraints of prison many others turn to drugs.
and despite the efforts of staff, drugs are smuggling into the prison. traffic and abuse pose security problems. corrections officers conduct surprise shakedowns to find and confiscate drugs often with the use of a drug detection dog. inmates are also required to give urine samples. today's target is the protective custody unit. >> two-man teams. bring them out and set them down. >> 504. >> remember these guys are all in protective custody. put a little space between them. >> opposite end. >> among those to be searched and tested, are two of wabash's high-profile inmates, joshua bean and dustin trowbridge.
>> open 504. >> shortly after bean and trowbridge are allowed back if into their cell, corrections officers return to administer the drug tests. >> we test for morphine, oxy, meth, cocaine and marijuana. >> bean. >> the containers are designed with a drug detection patch that provides immediate results. >> all right. bean, right? i have you showing presenting positive for methamphetamine. that's your testing. you want it sent to the lab. >> send it to the lab.
>> if an inmate is positive, he can request a second test from an outside lab. he is confident it is because of a prescription drug he is allowed to take. >> i'm on wellbutrin. they'll be able to tell at a lab though, right? >> yeah. >> getting narcotics back here is next to impossible. so, you know, i don't have a doubt when it goes to the lab i'll be all right. >> for bean, a positive drug test could result in a transfer out of the protective custody unit where the high-profile nature of his crime, the murder of his ex-girlfriend and destroying her corpse, could make him a target among other inmates. >> i have not been anywhere in the county to in prison that i haven't run into someone who knew who i was or had seen this stuff on the news about my case, that kind of thing. it follows you everywhere. i tested positive for pot maybe a year or two ago and they took me to a disciplinary unit
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since then woods has been on a 23-hour lockdown in the custody control unit until the investigation was completed. >> it appeared on the scene that cash had been assaulted by woods with a hot pot. highway had sustain -- he had sustained lacerations to his face, multiple bruising to his neck and all over his body where it appeared to us he had been kicked. >> but both cell mates are sticking to the story that cash's injuries were the result of falling down in the cell. >> because of the lack of cooperation from the alleged assailant and the alleged victim we did not file any external or internal charges on mr. woods or mr. cash. >> both of these guys have a lot of years left in prison. so it's normal for the victim to not to want to talk because he's got a lot of years to do in here. he is not going to want to be labeled as snitch. that will further the probability of being assaulted in the future. he is maintaining the story that
he fell. >> woods was released from the custody control unit and returned to general population. but he's been given a new cell assignment in another housing unit. >> you got to get along in here. you got to. >> we get along good. >> have you seen cash since the altercation? >> no. he's on the other side of the prison. >> did you guys leave on good terms? >> of course. >> over in the protective custody unit joshua bean has received word on his ongoing investigation. after testing positive for methamphetamine during a recent shakedown, bean requested that an outside lab conduct its own test. the results came back negative backing up bean's claims. >> i take wellbutrin. that pretty much means you test positive for methamphetamine.
that's what i figured it would be from the beginning. after i tested positive because i knew i had been doing anything. >> open your mouth. thank you. >> although the drug creates problems when he is tested, according to bean it has become his lifeline. he says he needs the medication to cope with the anxiety and stress of being incarcerated for the murder of his girlfriend. >> and you know just when i think i have a grip on it, these wounds or scar tissue i thought was healed just open back up all over again. and you know i'm -- sometimes partially in tears, sometimes i just want to hit the off switch when i don't have one. there's no on and off to a lot of this kind of stuff. it happens when it happens and i just got to deal with it. >> on the eve of his 30th birthday bean's cell mate dustin
trowbridge has spent nearly half of his life in prison for murdering and sexually assaulting a 69-year-old woman. he too attempts to make peace with the past. >> i didn't used to like myself. i had a whole lot of hatred towards myself for a long time. on the back of my arms, it says freak of nature. you know, i started seeing things completely different. i started understanding things different too. and i changed. i don't want to say it's because i found god or anything like that. because that truthfully that all afterwards. i didn't really get religious until after i figured out after all the years what a piece of crap i used to be.
>> i can never ask you to forgive me. >> they reach out to the women they not only murdered but whose bodies they desecrated. >> i never wanted anything other than your love, babe. i never would have hurt you. >> but the mother of bean's victim has a very different account. >> i know that heather was beaten by him at least four times. ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms? i sure hope so. with healthcare costs, who knows. umm... everyone has retirement questions. so ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. now you and your ameripise advisor.... can get the real answers you need.
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the unit. >> why did they move you out of the corner area? >> did you see the dude in that cell now? >> he is a bit bigger. he needed that cell a bit more than we did. >> you think they moved you out of that cell because there was a bigger guy moving in? >> it was a handicapped cell. we are both kind of small. i'm bigger than him but the guy bigger than me needed that cell more than me. they looked like they was in a match box when we moved in here. >> but for stroud the only thing that has changed is the view. >> to me it's all prison. you know, that's how i look at it. whether the cell was ten times this size or half this size, i might have been in worse situations. i just look at it like we are still in prison and can't go home. the only environment that really matters is environment right here, you know what i mean? so i got a nice view. i got a view that i look out of now and it just really --
>> i'm going to step over here so you can see. >> to young person or anybody who think that coming to prison is cool or whatever, come here. that's what i got to look at for the rest of my life. those wires. that might be the closest that i ever get to freedom. it's close, but it's far away. that's what lockup is. that is what my extended stay is like. that's for real. that's real life. it's not high like in the movies. it ain't none of that, man. this is my bed. when i look out the window, that's what i see. >> dustin trowbridge keeps a unique record of the many cells he's opccupied over the last 15 years. >> i wrote down where i was every birthday since i been here. 15th was in the drunk tank in the county jail.
16th was in the cell right above me. 17th was over here on the right side. 18th was on the right side. >> trowbridge has decided to write a letter to the elderly woman he robbed, murdered and sexually assaulted. >> i could never ask you to forgive me for the horrible things that i did to you. i am sorry i stole your sense of security when i snuck in your home and stole your sense of accomplishments and endeavors. i'm sorry i stole you from your loved ones when i very cowardly took the life that god gave you. there is no words that can ever suppress how sorry i am. to those who knew and loved [ bleep ] i'm sorry and will not
ask for forgiveness either. every day for over half my life not a moment has gone by when i didn't hang my head in guilt and shame. that's it. >> why did you feel the need to write that? >> well, i think it was -- this was as much for myself as it was for anybody else's sake. i -- this is probably going to sound kind of silly, but i really didn't -- couldn't comprehend death until someone i knew -- until i had experienced that loss, and it kind of put things into a completely different perspective when my
grandma died. >> trowbridge's cell mate also wrote a leather to his victim, heather, his former girlfriend who he stabbed to death. >> i cannot push these emotions to the darkest place in my mind anymore. i suppressed so much. your parents think i abused and beat you on multiple occasions and your friends think i controlled and forced you to believe with me. i never wanted anything over than your love, babe. i never would have hurt you. yet you are dead and i might as well be. >> but debby norris, heather's mother, says bean is a liar. >> i know that heather was beaten by him at least four times, four times that were pretty bad. one time she ended up going to the hospital after a beating. two of those beatings she
pressed charges and he was arrested on one charge and the other charge was pending when he killed her. >> debby norris did not allow her daughter to die in vain. after heather's death, she led the effort that resulted in the passing of heather's law, which made domestic violence education a requirement in indiana high schools. >> i'm trying to educate the young people on what a healthy relationship is and the signs they need to look for and what to do and that there are people out there that care and there are resources for them to turn to. when you're in abusive relationship and you decide to go back, you're going to hear the words, i'm sorry, i've changed, i'll never do it again, i love you. and you want to believe it, so
you end up going back, and i believe that's what heather did. >> i mean she loved me. i know she did. when she -- when she was -- after she got off me, i had stabbed her right here, she lay down. i held her in my arms and before she died she said, i love you, and those were her last words. >> during his sentencing one of the things that he did say was heather's last words were that, i love you, josh. i will never believe that. i have nightmares that heather's last moments was calling out for me to help her because she had done that so many times before. i don't see where this would have been any different. >> one fact that is indisputable is that bean attempted to get
away with murdering heather by dismembering her body with a chain saw and placing the parts in trash dumpsters throughout indianapolis. heather's body was never recovered. >> i go by a dumpster and i wonder if that's one of my daughter's last resting places. i see black trash bags and it makes me sick. i hear a chain saw and i have to get away. so much is different, obviously. he took heather's life. but he took mine. he took her dad's. he took her family's. he took her friends'. nobody is the same. nobody has ever stopped missing heather.
due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. am i evil? yes, i am. >> one inmate walks a fine line between heaven and hell. after a decade in confinement -- >> it just strips the humanity away from you. >> one of indiana's most infamous inmates moves to general population. >> i couldn't believe it with his reputation that he has.