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right now we're going to call the sergeant, let them know what's going on. and there's urine coming up the floor. >> recently sentenced to prison, a troubled, young inmate attempts to make a final impression on staff. >> why can't you ask like you have some sense? >> another inmate acts out in order to achieve a very different goal. >> i'd rather be someone for myself where i can focus on getting out, traveling to get my life back together.
>> she didn't -- she's not going to say dada first, she's going to say mom. >> a young woman who gave birth in jail now sees her baby grow up without her. >> you've got to be innovative. >> and an inmate with an arsenal of talent -- >> we've got one here says "louisville." >> -- faces 25 years to life. >> but it's all good, because one day i'll be back in the block with a sack full of green, i'll be packing a block. ♪ ♪ welcome to the streets, louisville, kentucky. >> on any given day, the louisville metro department of corrections jail holds about 2,300 men and women whose lives have reached a significant crossroads and whose futures are
anything but certain. though angela griffin says they're all crystal clear to her. >> put this right here, put it in your heart, you know, like really concentrate. i mean, if not, you've got to focus, really believe in what you want to hear about. take that in your heart and shuffle these three times. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> you know that's how i get my hustle on, it's how i eat. >> griffin, who was recently sentenced to five years for theft and promoting contraband, has resolved to playing cards to read inmates' fortunes. >> all right, this is a travel card or something, but this is ten weeks, ten months, ten days, ten years, or it could represent the tenth month, which is october. usually, the girls that have commissary, they know that i don't get a whole lot, so they'll offer me chips, crackers, pops, sometimes for soap, sometimes for shampoo, whatever i need at the time. but basically, this is my hustle. i love to do it. and all the girls say that i'm right on point when i do it. >> as a sentenced inmate, griffin is in the minority at louisville metro.
>> all right, you're on the money. >> that's pretty awesome. >> all right. >> next. >> thank you. who's next? >> next! >> most others here are only charged with crimes and are awaiting trial or the resolution of their cases. brian sauer has been here for the past 15 months, facing charges of burglary and fleeing or evading police, to which he has pled not guilty. because of several prior convictions, he now faces a sentence as high as 25 years to life if he's found guilty. >> sophisticated? eloquent, articulate. >> he says, if nothing else, jail has helped his vocabulary. >> i got tired of going to courts and stuff and the judges and the prosecutors using words that i was oblivious to, so i would go back to my cell, look up the words or have somebody look them up for me and just implement them into my vocabulary. i probably implemented 750 words just in the year that i've been
here, but we're talking about ultrasophisticated words. my vocabulary is astronomical, no, it's phenomenal. some people say i'm a pretty intriguing guy. they say i'm meig natick. obviously, scrabble doesn't have enough letters for words i like to use. what the hell is an otter? >> otter is an animal. >> it is? >> yeah. >> ain't never heard of no otter. i don't know [ bleep ] otter. i don't know everything. pretty much off and on for the last 14 years, i've been in and out of prison. i come from a good background. six brothers and sisters. went to school, made straight as for the longest time, but i dropped out in the tenth grade, and that's when i veered off into the wrong crowd, selling drugs, stuff like that. >> sauer says he's earned his
ged in prison, but that doesn't make up for all he's lost while behind bars. >> you've got to go all the way down. my mom passed away, my dad passing away. they took my kids, adopted my kids out. so i've been through a lot the last 14 years, and here i am back in the same situation, square one. but it's all good, because one day i'll be back on the block with a sack full of green and i'll be packing a block. they can take my freedom, never attack my thoughts, most people couldn't follow me in the tracks i walk. i'm really being into music, i guess that's why i've got the music notes on my face and my hands. you know, i try to write a lot about my life, because you know what i'm saying, music is the soundtrack of your life. i really don't talk about anything i've never been through, i try not to fabricate anything. my dad was musically inclined. i kind of got my music aspirations from my father. just one day, i just started writing poems and i just seen that i had a hidden aptitude. i try to convey my feelings and
transcribe them on paper, but i ain't never really been out of here long enough to apply myself on the streets. i'm trying to be the most eloquent rapper that the world has ever captured. >> sauer's interests have helped him stay out of trouble here. that has not been the case for 20-year-old joshua schilling. [ bleep ] schilling is housed in a single-person segregation cell. officers have just shut the water off to his sink and toilet after he threatened to flood the walkway. >> so, right now we're going to call the sergeant and let them know what's going on. and there's urine coming up the floor. you all may want to step back. >> have a seat on your bunk. have a seat on your bunk. don't move. sit down. >> is there a reason why you're
doing this, schilling? >> well, we're not the police, so. >> schilling was recently sentenced to 15 years for multiple felonies, including assault, and is awaiting transfer to prison. >> what is wrong with you? why all of a sudden do you want to start acting a fool, start flooding the walls and -- >> i didn't flood the wall. >> there was water all over the floor. >> they were going to cut it off, so i grabbed the cup. >> because you're flooding my wall. >> i wasn't flooding. >> you do this all the time. i'm not putting up with it. >> during schilling's 11-month stay at louisville metro, he has been anything but a model inmate. >> he's very childish, got a middle schooler's kind of attitude. every time he wants attention, that's how he acts out.
[ inaudible ] >> do you feel better now? he's standing up on the bench in here kicking my door. >> put them tighter, even tighter. i ain't going to worry about that [ bleep ]. >> it disrupts the entire wall. you get one person started, the other person started. the other inmates, whether they're trying to make a phone call, read, concentrate, whatever it just, you know, they all kind of start acting out the same thing. >> got to take these off. >> so, usually one starts acting out, we try and remove them from that situation as quick as possible because we know what's going to happen with the other ones. >> still kick like this. >> now i'm going to -- >> why do you insist on making things hard? >> i'm just playing. >> stand up. >> we're not playing. we're done playing. >> stand up. >> i can still kick them to the back, too. >> we're done playing. >> all right. >> because i'm going to take everything you've got, okay? are you good with that? >> yeah, that's fine. >> good. >> i can still kick like this.
>> no, it's not about no attention -- >> yeah, it is. >> i'm just bored. >> it's about attention, because you've been bored all week. >> i ain't trying to get no attention. i've been bored. i ain't trying to get no attention. >> eventually, you've got to grow up. that's not the way to get what you want. >> yeah, right. >> i can put them right back in the front. coming up. >> inmate schilling got 60 days on this write-up.
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♪ i can't go back, changed my life, losing all control ♪ ♪ look at me now ♪ >> it's hot. >> brian sauer is just one of many aspiring musicians at the corrections jail. ♪ i cry and dream at night and wish i didn't leave this life ♪ ♪ they try to send me to a bone trip, vacation, a strip ♪ >> the themes of their songs and raps are often based on pain and suffering. ♪ a lot of ass-whoopings >> but some, like sauer, hope to sing a different tune the next time they're released. ♪ i know there's more to life than this, and damn, i miss my wife and kids ♪ ♪ was a sad day when they took my life away ♪ >> you know, i want to live a normal life, you know what i'm saying? i've got a good girl on my side. she's there for me, sends me money, phone calls, letters,
cards, things of that nature, visits, you know what i'm saying, the things, the small things that are important in places like this. it's going to be tough for me out there, you know what i'm saying, because i don't want to have the stuff like with the tattoos on my face and it's going to be hard for me to find a job, but whatever's necessary for me to do. i'm tired of being in the system, but i don't know where i see myself 5, 10, 15 years from now, hopefully not in prison. maybe i have a couple more kids with my fiancee. she's looking forward to that, living a normal life. >> his incarcerations have already cost him custody two of children from a prior relationship. >> the state of kentucky involuntarily took away my parental rights to my children, which is a hard pill to swallow. haven't seen them in four years now. >> sauer's not alone when it comes to missing children on the outside. >> okay, you've got a strong relationship, all right, but
you're worried about it. you've got a lot of worry about this relationship. strong relationship coming up twice, and it's with somebody you love, so you're worried. it has more worry behind it, too. >> patricia smith has definitely had some worries. she has two daughters, a 4-year-old and a 7-month-old with two different men. >> shows him three times. >> smith was given probation after pleading guilty to drug possession. when she entered a methadone clinic for treatment, things only got worse. >> i probably started using the methadone and cocaine together when i was about 6 1/2 months pregnant, trying to sneak around and do it without nobody knowing about it, but that didn't work out so well. >> smith arrived at louisville
metro eight months pregnant. >> it hit me that, yeah, i am eight, nine months pregnant, about to have a baby. what have i done to her? what is she going through? make sure that you bring the baby on saturday so i can see her. >> when she went into labor, smith learned the realities of giving birth while incarcerated. >> they shackled me. i had the cuffs on my legs and my hands. i was handcuffed going into the hospital. they put me in a wheelchair while i did my paperwork, handcuffed to the wheelchair. and so, i was in there by myself with a bunch of strangers around me, you know, no family there. >> the baby, named jada, seemed healthy at birth. the next day, she began withdrawing off methadone and had to be put on morphine. >> make sure she's not fussy. that way, you know, i can stay for the whole visit. >> jada eventually recovered and now lives with her father. >> i can't believe i actually put this baby, who's innocent,
had nothing to do with my problems, had nothing to do with any of my outside issues, through something like this. no, she's going to say dada first, she's not going to say mom. >> because she violated parole through drug use, she will transfer to a state prison to complete her two-year sentence. >> it's kind of sad that i didn't get to hear her say her [ bleep ] first words. he said last night that she actually said her first words, which was dada, rather than mom, which kind of sucks. but, so, of course i missed that, and i'm sure there's more, there's more that's going to happen that i'm going to end up missing. try to record the baby saying "dada" to you. at least i can hear that. love you. bye. coming up -- >> i wish i was there. i mean, this freaking sucks. >> close your eyes and tap your heels three times and you might get out. >> a bittersweet visit for patricia smith.
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>> most of the 2,300 inmates at the louisville department of corrections live in dormitory housing units, where they're able to move around and socialize throughout the day. but those who break the rules can wind up in disciplinary segregation. >> this is our disciplinary segregation housing unit. the doors down here are solid. they have plexiglass on the windows so the inmates don't throw urine or feces, water, anything like that out on the staff or the work aides as they go through. you'll see the black-and-white striped jumpsuits, which represents disciplinary. these inmates only are allowed to have their legal work in their cell and a pencil. they get to come out one hour a day. they'll stay in their cells for 23 hours a day. they do not get visits, they do not go to the gym, they do not get any commissary or anything like that while they are doing
disciplinary time. you'll hear the inmates refer to this as the ho. it tends to get a little loud and noisy. [ inaudible ] >> sometimes they get bored, sometimes they act out. so, that's life in the ho. business as usual. >> why do i got to go for? >> basically because you're running around and acting crazy. >> y'all are lying, man. >> a lot of these guys, you've got to understand, they're locked up 23 hours a day, you know, and they get bored.
>> you know, i've seen guys flood because they're bored, bang on doors because they're bored, broke chairs because they're bored. >> it's just jail. >> michael draper's recent behavior might also appear to be motivated by boredom. >> i was just playing, just acting ridiculous and acting silly and playing and stuff like that. >> draper has been in jail for the past 17 months, awaiting trial on charges including domestic violence, unlawful imprisonment and fleeing or evading police. his behavior has resulted in him spending most of his time in segregation, but he says that's by design. >> i'd rather be somewhere by myself where i can focus on getting out and trying to get my life back together, and so
that's why i'm here in ho, is because basically, i told them get me away from everybody. i need to get myself somewhere where i can get my head, focus on my case. >> michael draper likes to manipulate his housing. he prefers to be in a single cell. not common, but it happens with inmates that don't want to be in, what you'd say a chaos of a dorm, 30-man dorm, whether it's for reasons of fighting their case or just the solitude. but what he does is, when he's about to serve out his disciplinary, he'll create a situation where he gets written up internally, whether it be flooding, whether it'd be verbally abusive to an officer, create a situation where it warrants him getting written up, gets continuous disciplinary. >> draper isn't the only inmate with a history of acting out in segregation. [ bleep ] joshua schilling's recent outburst in his cell, which included banging on the door and flooding the hallway, prompted
staff to remove him and place him in a holding cell, pending disciplinary action. >> joshua schilling, he received a write-up for damaging departmental property, being disruptive, stopping of the plumbing -- that's flooding. inmate schilling does that when he gets mad, i think it's 15 times in 12 months. inmate schilling got 60 days on this write-up. >> with schilling about to leave for prison to start his 15-year sentence, one of the jail's veteran officers, lieutenant collins, hopes to get through to him so that he might some day learn from his mistakes. >> how old are you now? >> 20. >> you're 20 years old, man. you know, you continue down that path, it's just going to go back and forth. you're going to be in the system. and you know what recidivism is? >> no. >> it's just you keep coming back, keep coming back.
but you're only 20 years old now, so you have an opportunity to get your mind right. you see what i'm saying? >> yeah. >> you got any kids yet? >> no. >> you want some? >> yeah. >> you want them to see you going in and out of jail your whole life? >> no. >> well, it could follow you, but if you get a chance now to get your life back on track. you have opportunities left. you're only 20 years old, man. >> yeah. >> don't fall into this trap, all right? you've been in prison yet? >> no. >> you're going to see, man, it's big boy stuff. >> yeah, but i'm a criminal, though. i can't -- i don't feel i can live out in the community because i'm a criminal. >> well, why do you feel you can't change? >> because it's easy, like easy money, so i get out there and try to -- i'm doing wrong -- >> to try to get easy money? >> yeah, i can't seem to do right. >> why don't you try getting a job and work up from the bottom? sometimes you've got to start as a janitor to be president of that company, you know what i'm saying? >> yeah. >> and you've got to suffer, and that's part of life's transition, turn into a man. you know everybody's good at something, right? obviously, you told me you've been in the system since you were a juvenile, so you're not a good criminal. so you've got to do something
better, all right? but you keep getting caught. right here, you can change that. you're the only one with the ability to do that. you can't let these folks control you, you can't let me control you. you've got to do that. >> all right, man. >> all right, collins. coming up -- ♪ i get another letter from my granny the other day ♪ ♪ she says stuff's the same, ain't nothing changed around the way ♪ >> michael draper sings the blues after getting a letter from home. >> i got a letter from my grandmama saying my mother's sick. she says mama "has been going to the doctor. she's afraid that something really bad is going on with her body, and i pray that it's not true." ♪ oh, oh, mom i miss you my feet hurt so bad. it felt like hot pins and needles coming from the inside out of my skin. when i did go see the doctor, and he prescribed lyrica, it helped me. it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda-approved to treat diabetic nerve pain.
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you're limping right now. >> i'm not limping. >> you're limping! >> hey, johnson! >> at the louisville department of corrections jail, many of the staff have been working together so long that they think of one another as family. and some of them actually are. >> just to let you know, the new sanitation sheets that they're doing -- >> yeah? >> i got one today where you're not to fill anything out -- >> lieutenant dejarnett and his younger brother, who's a sergeant, have been on staff together for nearly 14 years. >> and i'll make sure we get something before it becomes a bigger problem. >> the mentoring part's pretty much done. he did that, though. he took care of me early on in my career. he bought my first gun for me. i paid him back, but you know, he really helped me along with a lot of things, you know, helped
me out immensely coming through academy, you know. probably a big part of the reason that i was the honor grad out of the academy was because of what i knew coming in from him. we're pretty much equal footing now except for the rank thing, so. >> but when the brothers have a dispute about rank or anything else, there is one person they both like to call. >> i'm going to tell mom on you. your shirt. >> it's tore off. can't get any bars. not like your lieutenant bars. >> yeah. >> call mom. >> over in the disciplinary segregation unit, michael draper would like nothing more than to call his mom, but he has no money on his inmate account with which to make a phone call. >> i ain't got no family with no time put on the phone. my family don't do that. they just do it old-school. ♪ fighting for my life, fighting for my life, yeah ♪ >> draper might not get to speak to his family, but they often make their way into his music. ♪ got another lettery from my granny the other day ♪ ♪ she says stuff's the same, ain't nothing changed around the way ♪ ♪ she said my kids are growing up, they asking where i am ♪
♪ i'm sitting in my cell, can only think of them ♪ ♪ singing, oh, oh, oh, you got me singing oh, oh, granny, i miss you ♪ ♪ i got another letter from my mama the other day ♪ ♪ says she's working overtime for another place to stay ♪ ♪ bills are stacking up, a new problem every day ♪ ♪ i'm thinking in my mind, next time my mother stays in ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, mom, i miss you ♪ ♪ i got another letter from my mama the other day ♪ ♪ says she's working overtime for another place to stay ♪ ♪ bills are stacking up, a new problem every day ♪ ♪ i'm thinking in my mind, next time my mother stays in ♪ ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, mom, i miss you ♪ >> and draper recently received some troubling news about his mother. >> i got a letter from my grandmama saying my mama's sick, saying my mama "has been going to the doctor. she's afraid that something really bad is going on with her body, and i pray that it's not true."
i don't know. that's why i'm really worried, because i don't know what it is. >> draper has been known to act out in order to stay in segregation, but the news about his mother has made the isolation harder to take. >> it's a bad day. they say there ain't nothing to do but sit in here and think. >> draper is due to be released from segregation in just days and placed back in general population, and this time, he might just let it happen. >> because i don't want to be sitting in here worrying about my mama because i'm really making it worse. i'm liable to snap out, catching whole new charges and all kind of crazy stuff. so, that's pretty much what i'm going to try to do, though, get my head together and do that. >> while draper copes with his mother's illness in jail, patricia smith has had to cope with being a mother in jail. she gave birth to her now 7-month-old daughter, jada, shortly after her arrival at louisville metro. >> tell her.
>> today, jada and her father, jason, are scheduled to visit. >> today i get to see jada. i'm just excited to see her, see how big she's gotten. she actually said "dada" for the first time, so maybe i can get her to talk to me. >> and say what? >> and say maybe mommy. >> visits, usually most inmates, you can get your mind off your problems just for a minute. do you see mama? >> but it comes with limitations. at louisville metro, they are noncontact and are conducted through a video monitor and telephone. >> they don't actually have a face-to-face visit anymore. >> why? >> because we had a lot of problems with contraband in the place, you know. we would sit them on one side of the table and the visitors on the other side of the table. they would distract the officer for one reason or another, throw
something under the table or throw it over the table, you know. so, we had a lot of problems with contraband, so we decided video visits was a whole lot better. >> the last time i saw jada, i tried to get her to look at me, but she was too busy trying to get the phone, so, she really didn't say much. oh, there's my baby. hey. >> what's up? >> pick her up. i can't see her. she looks so cute! let me talk to her. >> jada. what are you doing? say dada. >> say hi to your mom. >> say mommy! oh, she's holding the phone. were you holding the phone? >> it's like she's ready for conversation. >> hi, baby. >> look. >> hi, baby. she's probably wondering where i am. >> talking to mama? >> yeah, she's so pretty. >> show mom your tooth. see it? >> she's sticking her tongue out. so, she only has one tooth?
>> yeah, working on two. >> smith is waiting transfer to prison to begin serving a two-year sentence for drug possession. on the bright side, kentucky state prisons allow for contact visitation, so smith will soon be able to hold jada. >> i wish i was there. >> just close your eyes and tap your heels three times and you might be there. >> shut up. >> on the other side. ain't heard nothing on when you're being sent out? >> they don't tell you in here for security reasons when you're leaving. they just call your name and you go. this sucks. i wish i could hold her. we've got a minute left. oh, let me talk to her again. jada, mommy loves you. >> who's that, mama? >> love you. make sure you record her walking and talking and stuff, so i won't miss it all. i love you guys. put her up.
>> it's kind of sad. last time i touched jada, she didn't have any teeth, she wasn't talking, she wasn't crawling, she wasn't sitting up. >> try to keep her where she still knows her mom, you know what i'm saying? because she really ain't held her or nothing like that. probably about a week total, like, that's it. so, i just try to keep it where she knows her. >> visit wasn't long enough at all. happy before and sad after. because i feel like i'm going to lose all the baby years, you know? all the baby things are going to be gone. so, it's kind of sad. coming up -- >> got one here that says "louisville." >> -- brian sauer becomes a jailhouse jeweler and michael draper finds trouble in general
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♪ at the end of the rainbow, rainbow ♪ ♪ at the end of the rainbow, they tell him to go, ♪ ♪ tell him to go, listen, the day i cherish like now ♪ ♪ i'm trying to get back focused to fight trail ♪ >> though striking gold in the music industry is a long-shot under the best of circumstances, that doesn't stop inmates at the louisville metro department of corrections jail from displaying their talents. ♪ but one day, you know they say, at the end of the rainbow ♪ ♪ yeah, rainbow, at the end of
the rainbow, they tell him it's gold, tell him it's gold ♪ >> over the years, you see talent from singing to rapping to artistry to general, i mean, just about every field you can think of. if given the right path at an earlier stage, you know, could have been very successful at whatever they had done, but for whatever reason, it's turned out, you know, they've made choices that's landed them in here. never too late to utilize that talent, but for some people, it becomes harder and harder when you're caught up in the system for someone to give you a chance. >> when brian sauer came to jail, he knew he had talent as a singer. ♪ look at me now, i've lost some hair, watched my heart grow cold ♪ ♪ the tears inside, what i don't i can't let go, look at me now ♪ >> but in the time he's been at louisville metro, he's discovered a new talent. >> got one here says "louisville."
gotta represent louisville, kentucky, where we're from. that's a pretty popular one throughout the jail. and i make -- these are smaller ones, actually. these are for, like, the girls. >> sauer makes rings using a number of items he scrapes together in his dorm. he starts with a plastic deodorant bottle, some string pulled from his mattress. >> i'll take three of these strings here and braid them together, makes this right here. >> he uses the string to slice off the small, ring-shaped neck of the plastic bottle. >> cut that off. >> three for a dollar! >> i've got to pop that ball out of there. the ball's the hardest thing. i so pop that ball out, take the ring, file the ring down on the ground. >> sauer uses plastic bags for the ring's outer coating. >> take a strip of the garbage
bag, take a couple bar of soap, tie it around there, put it on there. spin it around. then i stretch it. this is the string used to make the white. >> for lettering, he uses cellophane wrap from jail-issued sandwiches, and he creates dye by rubbing colored pencils on the floor and adding water. >> this one's green, could be light green. the less color you put, you could make them lighter colors, but you know, there's a certain way you weave it in there. it's a pretty tedious process, but you know, in jails, in prisons, we don't got nothing but time. >> it takes sauer about two hours to make one ring. >> it's a great time-passer. >> and a hustle, huh?
>> and a hustle. yeah, so, i sell them. sometimes i'll sell them for $2, but sometimes i'll just sell them just for a noodle or a shot, you know what i'm saying? >> inmates typically refer to the trades they do for snacks and favors as hustles and sauer is not new to having one. >> another relationship. another trip. >> angela griffin's is foreign-telling. >> whoo, there's some money on top of love. you've got some money coming with love, girl. actually, they used to call me gypsy lady, like a long time ago. >> griffin's latest customer, patricia smith, is awaiting transfer to prison for drug possession. no surprise to griffin. >> you're about to travel. hopefully sooner than you want to. here's your alternate love card. and then you have worry. >> of course, all that worry. >> you're always worried. there's money on that journey, for some reason. there's that strong relationship.
that's like the fourth -- >> oh, my god, that's crazy. >> that's like the fourth time it's popped up. look. >> and marriage. >> and marriage, with a man who's worried about you. >> jason, of course. >> michael draper has a hustle as well. his involves the creative use of >> draper was recently returned to general population, where he has been busy making soap sculptures that he trades for commissary items or favors. this is soap. the brown stuff is coffee. the gray for the hairs and all that is strands of blanket. and the black stuff right here is like the soot and stuff in the windows, the black, sticky stuff. all this other material is just bars of soap, broken little pieces and stuff. >> in the short time he's been
back in population, draper has traded his sculptures for envelopes to mail motions he's written to his judge. and since he has no money in his inmate account, he talked another inmate into making a phone call to his mother to check on her health. >> they called and said she said she was all right and she was doing okay now, but i didn't get to talk to her, but they said she's all right. >> using jail-issued items for purposes other than for what they were intended is technically a rule violation, but when draper's confronted about it, he has a ready-made alibi. coming up -- while one inmate leaves the jail behind, another returns to his home away from home. >> left ad seg and went back to the dorm. now he's back. it's a revolving cycle for draper. reluctant to try new t. what's wrong with trying new things?
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♪ an inmate's stay at the louisville metro department of corrections jail can range from mere hours to years, depending on the complexity of the charges. some will leave here only to serve their sentences in state prison, but for many others, their last day on the inside is their first day of renewed freedom on the outside. today is that day for farrah burleson. >> i'm going home. >> after how long? >> a long time, 543 days. yes. whoo! >> yay! >> oh. >> aww. >> after violating probation and spending nearly two years in jail for stealing scrap metal to fund a drug habit, burleson now
has a second chance. >> i have five years probation, which is going to be really hard because it's going to keep my nose to the grind. i'm going to finish college and go see my babies. i'm so excited. >> yay. >> among the dormmates burleson will leave behind is patricia smith. after a recent visit with her 7-month-old daughter, smith will soon leave the jail as well, but for a different reason. she's due to transfer to state prison any day now and copes the best she can. >> i like to sleep away my time because it seems like it makes the days go by a lot faster. i usually wake up around dinner time, which is about 4:00 or 4:30 and then eat, and then when i get done eating dinner, i'll try to call jason and talk to him, and then i'll come back here and put in my earplugs and just try to sleep. when i sleep, i'll have dreams, and sometimes nightmares about this place and about my girls,
and that's probably the worst part about trying to sleep. to sleep is to try not to think about what's going on on the outside world because there's nothing i can do it. >> others at louisville metro find their own ways to deep with that emptiness. for brian sauer and a few friends, it includes finding new ways to play old games. >> what are these? >> these are dominos made out of shower shoes. you've got to be innovative. >> this is what we made them out of. what we take a shower with. >> tell me what do you do? >> you just take a little something and you cut little blocks out. you see how they are? >> you have to take a string out of a mattress. >> yeah, because we ain't got no knives. >> there goes our board made out of a shower shoe. >> who's going without shoes now, though? >> we try not to let people go without shoes, because it's nasty in that shower. >> while sauer enjoys dominos -- >> what i call a dominologist. >> it provides just an escape
from more pressing concerns on his mind. he's facing charges of burglary and fleeing or evading police. >> the prosecutor made an offer of ten-year sentence in exchange for a guilty plea, but i declined his offer. >> because he has two prior felony convictions for drug possession and theft, he could be looking at as much as 25 to life if convicted on his current charges. he is scheduled to go to trial in just days. >> i mean, i'm nervous about it, you know what i'm saying, even though i've been in these situations a thousand times over, but when you're leak at that amount of time, you're thinking 25 to life, not knowing what the outcome of, what the case is going to be, it's just, i guess it's just in the hands of god and -- >> the jury. >> the jury, actually, yeah. >> even though he's faced with an uncertain four, sauer says there's one thought that keeps him going. >> i keep my mind fixated on the day that i get out, because i mean, there's nothing like the day you walk out of these doors, you know what i'm saying, and stepping back into society.
it's just like a feeling of euphoria. you feel elated. it's like, weird, because life still evolves out there. you know what i'm saying. two or three years, your kids were 12 and 13 years old, when you get out, they're 16 and 17 years old with their own kids. it's like, damn, i have nieces and nephews that i've never seen in my life. so, it's like a trip for us to get readjusted back to society. >> that's a challenge michael draper would gladly take, but he's found it difficult to readjust to general population. >> what'd you do? >> he's now back in segregation. >> you can't remember this time? that much, huh? >> disruptive behavior. >> oh, disruptive behavior? what, beating -- >> yeah. >> i've known draper for -- he's been here 19 months. he doesn't follow rules very well. he was just in administrative seg not a month ago, and now he's back -- he left ad seg and went to a dorm, apparently, and
got in trouble in a dorm and now he's back in disciplinary, and it's just a revolving cycle for draper. >> can't deal with all the people in there. i like the peace. >> uh huh. it's jail, man, come on. there's always somebody. >> huh? >> there's always somebody. all right, well, good luck to you. are you going back to court soon? >> yeah. >> are you getting out this time? >> i hope so. >> uh huh, right. >> draper has been working on his case most of the time he's been at louisville metro, and he's feeling pretty good about his chances. >> said i might really beat this case. no witnesses showing up. i'm ready to go home, hopefully. >> and how is it you're going to beat it? >> because there ain't no witnesses showing up. can't find the witnesses, so. i'm going to go back. if you don't have the star witnesses, then you don't have nothing. it's basically your word against whoever else, and if there ain't nobody there, you can't cross examine nobody, so there's no case.
>> am i going to see you again? >> no. >> right. >> going to hand to me like that is this. >> no. >> i'm going see you again, but i'm going to see you at walmart. >> walmart? >> yeah, all right. >> take it easy. >> see you, draper. >> yeah. >> even if he gets out, i'll see him again. a lot of these guy, i don't mean anything negative about it, but this is what they know. they come to jail, they get out, come to jail, they get out. very rarely will they do something the right path, i guess you could say. it's just a lifestyle choice that they make.
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