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quarantine. >> i don't believe, when you're dealing with something as serious as this, that we can count on a voluntary system. this is government's job, if anything else, the government's job is to protect the safety and health of our citizens. and so we've taken this action, and i absolutely have no second thoughts about it. >> for christie, it's a test of macho. he abandoned mitt romney for a waterfront bromance with obama. in 2013, his people stuck it to a small-time democratic mayor for not ponying up an endorsement. now teaming with governor cuomo and sticking it to the president for not being as tough as he is. >> it's a common sense approach that the federal government wouldn't take, that we took first here in new jersey and new york, has now been adopted by chicago, has now been adopted by maryland. as i said yesterday on the news, this will become the national policy because it's smart, tough, common-sense politics. >> what is the smart way to
treat ebola? slamming doors and closing bridges or getting help where it counts the most? to quote billy crystal, who has the science on his side. let's hear it from an expert. >> i think it's ridiculous. there are marry jews in the nfl than people who have died of ebola in this country. right? >> that is true. >> one person has died. you can't get it. you can't get it. all the people who have got it are the people -- i'm not going to sponge bathe an ebola patient. there's no way that i'm going to get it. in a rather crude way that was howie mandel with kelly and michael on this friday. and let's face it, just two people have contracted ebola here in the united states. does that tell us to the macho governors who want to put traffic cones around west africa, or the president. a special correspondent from the daily beast and host of "the
reid report." this is an interesting battle. everything is political now and ebola fits into that category. the macho man in trenton joining up with a guy in albany, trying to out-fight ebola with the president. they're showing more macho. what's going on here? who knows what they're talking about and who is simply playing theater against ebola? >> chris, so much for the party of individual liberty and small government. chris christie said this is what we get into politics to do, to grab a nurse out of the airport and put her in a tent. can't even quarantine at home until they changed their mind. i think for chris christie, this is about repairing some of the damage he did to himself in 2012 with his party. this shows him as in line with the base of the party, in line with the fear crowd, in line with the party who insists that the scientists are all wrong and that the virus is airborne, that you have to come down heavy on anyone you think might be carrying it into the united
states. and i think this presents him in the guise he wants to be. not the guy who was squishy and hugged obama to get aid for new jersey, but the guy who is super tough, going to come down on the nurses and they're not going to get away from him. >> i gagree with her. >> it's too bad he wants to run for president, because otherwise he would have handled it in a more humane way. this nurse goes over there to be a good soul, a good samaritan. she comes back, she goes through customs at newark international airport. she says she's not symptom attic, they misread her temperature, take it with an oral thermometer, she has no temperature. christie says she's symptom attic. he's playing to the fear, the polls, the republican base for 2016 and she got horrible treatment because of it.
>> nurse kaci hickox came back on friday and was moved to an isolation tent at a newark hospital after a temperature scan shows she was running a fever. hickox said she did not have a fever, but she was flushed and upset about how she was being treated. but only after spending three nights in isolation. she said she's considering suing. while in isolation, she called into cnn to slam governor christie. let's listen to her. >> i am not, as he said, quote/unquote, obviously ill. i am completely healthy and with no symptoms. if he knew anything about ebola, he would know that asymptomatic people are not infectious. i think this is an extreme that is really unacceptable and i feel like my basic human rights have been violated. >> governor christie responded today in signature fashion. here he is.
>> governor, when you first -- [ inaudible ] >> i have no reason to talk to her. my job is not to represent her, it's to represent the people of new jersey. she was obviously ill enough that cdc and medical officials hospitalized her and gave her an ebola test. they don't do that just for fun. >> wow, it sounds like christie before that bridge closing. take a listen to this. it sounds like this again. here he is. >> you don't send your children to public schools. you send them to private schools. so i was wondering why you think it's fair to be cutting school funding to public schools. >> what's her name? >> what's her name real quick? >> gale. >> gale, first off, it's none of your business. i don't ask you where you send your kids to school. don't bother me about where i send mine. >> it seems to me there's a
difference between hard left and hard right. but there's a certain sort of rightist tendency there to take the interest of, you might call it the group, against the individual. where the individual doesn't really matter so much. he made it clear i don't want to talk to that person. i represent the group, not the individual. on economic issues, they are very much concerned with the individual, the right to make all the money you can. but on social issues like this, or disease, it seems like there's a philosophical difference. guys on the right are quick to say, screw you, west africa, keep that disease to yourself, live with it. at the same time, they're quick to say, let's quarantine people. the president and the scientists in this country are a bit more humane. their reaction is, let's be careful here, respect people's humanity, let's not shove people around, in some sort of overwhelming fear. there's a human difference,
basic human difference in the way people of these two different political stripes deal with people. obama and this guy, i think. >> and i agree. but first of all, it's also kind of haphazard. imagine how the right would have reacted if president obama had instituted a system where americans coming back into the united states were put into a cdc tent against their will. just imagine the optics of that and how that would play on the right. so there isn't any consistency to the ideology. but one thing that is consistent, especially with christie, is this attitude. and unfortunately it's twice that you played against women of just indifference to people's opinion and even his role as a public servant to even have to address his constituents. they have no right to question him. who do they think they are? i'm chris christie, you don't question me. if you look at new york's policy, it was a lot more systematic. it was a lot more about getting the patient to the hospital and making sure there was a system.
in new jersey, it was, you're a leper, get in the tent. >> you don't speak to me! michael, it is fascinating, this difference. because there have been two cases of people who got the disease here in this country. it's not an outbreak. it's not exponential, not a pandemic or anything like that. but it could be. and here we are so close to an election, and you can imagine it going another way. we don't know. therefore, the fear factor works. probably. >> fear factor works. and public fear of this is way out of proportion to the actual numbers. you look at polls -- >> 72% of the people say they should be quarantined, anybody coming here. >> right. >> 72%. from two cases. it's insane. >> what about the military? just to cloud things up here? the military apparently is quarantining everybody who comes back from working over there. of course those guys are under order. so they're not free moving citizens. they're in uniform and under
orders. >> yeah, right, it's the military. rules that apply in a free society don't necessarily have to apply to military and that's fine. but this is a free society. you're right about the distinctions between obama and christie and the difference is in the philosophical approaches. and obama, you know, a lot of times, chris, he's waited until the evidence came in and he's been prudent and he hasn't spoken. a lot of times that's been kind of a disadvantage for him politically. but at this point, i think it's the right thing for him to do. >> by the way, both sides know what the fight is about. and they know it's a fight. look at this, joy. the white house took a shift to christie today. very nicely put by josh ernest who has an amazing name for a flag. anyway, let's take a look. >> -- service of somebody like kaci hickox is something that we should honor and respect. she doesn't travel over there because she was getting a big paycheck. presumably she's not going to be
inducted into the nurses hall of fame for it. her service and commitment to this cause is something that should be honored and respected and i don't think we do that by making her live in a tent for two or three days. >> that's a thing about the sympathies involved. i have to tell you, it's interesting, the democrats, the president, and his spokesperson, and in other cases, they were looking out for nina pham, they were looking out for people as individuals, doing their job. they're not treated at typhoid marys. wrz whereas the other side treats them as scare crows, oh, my god. whereas the democrats look at them as people, good public servants. people love nueses. ther all the young guys wanted to be firefighters. all the young ladies wanted to be nurses. >> first of all, you have to remember too, the obama administration has an
overarching interest in getting people to go into west africa to help. so they want to do anything to encourage it, obviously. and i think it is looked at as a public service that these doctors, and even doctors who say they prefer t a 21-day quarantine for those coming back, believe it should be done in the most humane way possible. people shouldn't be forced into a tent. there should be compassion and reverence. whereas on the other side, there's an accusatory tone against the people who have acquired the virus. and remember, there's a large percentage of those who are getting infected with ebola are health care providers, people who are doing this godly service to save their fellow man. >> it is godly. i have two ask you two flowers of justice, joy -- surprise you first, michael. will this make people fear and vote right-wing? >> the people who come outs to
vote in this election are already voting right-wing. but i will say this, this is going to last through 2016. we'll hear a lot of that between now and then. >> i believe fear makes people go to the right. we've seen it in the 20th century in the worst possible way. but even within our moderate confines of politics in this country, left and right not being that far apart. i think people are drink to the right when they're afraid. >> yeah, i think republicans do benefit from a fear-based environment in general. but i agree with michael that that crowd was already going to vote in large numbers. the big question hanging over this election is whether the crowd on the other side gets exercised enough. because the election is not nationalized on the democratic side. it's very much so on the republican side, and this just adds to that. >> i hope everybody watching right now votes. i've done it. have you voted yet? >> i have not done it yet, but i vote every election. i'm a super voter. >> have you put down your name? >> i go on election day. >> i did the early voting.
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that was hillary clinton stumping for democratic senator kay hagan this weekend in north carolina. certainly one of the close races of the country for control of the u.s. senate. i figure right now, the democrats could lose as many as ten senate seats next tuesday, or as few as four, which would keep them still in control. yet things are close in so many races. this is yesterday on fox news sunday. >> it's tight and it's remarkable. what that means is in arkansas and north carolina and elsewhere, democratic candidates are running double-digits ahead of the president's job approval rating, which they simply shouldn't be doing. >> i don't get that statement. what does he mean? three states in particular, everybody agrees are close. north carolina, we talked about that with the secretary clinton. colorado and iowa which could be very close. look like they're all coming down to the wire. a new poll shows hagan in north carolina deadlocked with her
republican opponent thom tillis, that means he's gaining. close also in colorado where gardner is leading udall. he looks very strong. in iowa, the pig's worst nightmare out there, joni ernst leads bruce braley by just three points. but that one, i think she's winning there. polls in all three states could determine who takes control of the senate one week from tomorrow. howard fineman, eugene robinson join us. guys, i really, over the 30 or 40 years have been doing this, take great pride in my ability to predict -- >> you have a great good record. >> so i really try to get it right. but i think it's hard this time, these races are so close i don't want to screw them up by saying what i think is really going to happen. but i'm liking at north carolina
and skrecretary clinton was the. if seems to me that if kay hagan can't squeak that baby, nobody could. she's done everything right. >> she's done everything right. she's maintained that little lead. now if the race is tightening up, i think frankly that's a tough sign for her. >> and for the democrats. >> exactly. and for the democrats. if she wins that seat, it could be, you could look forward to a decent night for the democrats. you could think the democrats -- >> she's the fire wall, i agree. >> but if she goes, you got to look at new hampshire. and if -- >> let's talk about new hampshire. if we turn on the tv, if we start that night and we see in kentucky at 7:00, your state, if that's too close to call, i tell people, not a bad night for the democrats. that means that alison lundergan grimes is hanging in there, it may be a squeaker, great credit
to her. if however at 8:00 -- >> it's over. >> -- we say too close to call in new hampshire, got it wrong, this could be a night the republicans sweep everything. if they can beat a guy they just moved him into the state a week ago, then -- >> that's right. if that happens in new hampshire, that shows that the lay of the land nationally is such that a guy like scott brown, as you say, who just moved into the state, people in new hampshire don't even like people from massachusetts. let alone isis and people with ebola and everything else. [ laughter ] if they're willing to elect that guy, then that shows that the whole tilt of the playing field is on the republicans. >> there's nothing wrong with her. i keep reading reports of her being a popular -- >> senator shaheen. >> yes. >> and she was governor too. [ all speak at once ] >> popular is a relative term this year, right? because even a popular senator can get knocked off by a carpet
bagger, basically who is not frankly the most impressive when he was in the senate. >> let's talk dynamics. everybody who is smart uses it. if the democrats show that obama's not popular, and they stop advertising any positive about him. on the other hand, the republicans and tea party run savage ads, obama doesn't look too good. so going into the polls, just say bad stuff about him, so by the time you get to the polling booth, all you hear is about about him. >> i think that the democrats had a difficult row to hoe regardless, because of the president's unpopularity. but what they needed to do and what i don't think they've done enough of is tease out the things about the democratic agenda that while not featuring the president necessarily mean that you're a democrat. mean that you have something positive to say. and one reason why alison grimes has made a race of it in
kentucky is that she has relentlessly talked about minimum wage, raising the minimum wage, equal pay for women. you know, these kinds of meat and potatoes issues, which against a 30-year incumbent like mitch mcconnell, have some juice. she refused to say whether she voted for president obama, but yet she's managed to get the democratic message out there, not enough other people have done it. and i think it is a vicious cycle, as you say, chris. if the democrats don't defend the president at all and the republicans attack, it weakens the president and the democrats run away further and the republicans attack even more. >> and the president's approval ratings keep going down. he's suffered like $300 million worth of negative advertising against him personally. >> can you win -- i remember back -- i don't remember. but back in 1952, i did read about this. >> i don't remember. >> they said, he had taken the
nazi surrender. you couldn't beat him. so you had to say, look in your wallet, oh, you have some money in there. didn't have that when we came in. what's the social security card? didn't have that, did you? so they went through all the particular things to make the case for a guy like stevenson who didn't have the charisma of an eisenhower. does that work? >> it didn't work then. look, ike is not on the ballot for the republicans. >> there's no ike on the ballot. look, i do think the democrats could have done more, as you said, to highlight the democratic agenda, and frankly, to tell voters what will happen if the republicans take control of the senate and what the republican agenda is like. >> what is it? we'll get to it at the end -- wait a minute, if you have an agenda, you don't need one. he doesn't have one. they don't know what they want to do except energy. >> so you write it for them, because they won't tell you what it is. these are the republican
policies, this is what they're done in the past, this is what they're going to do now. and this is why you need to vote to keep democrats in -- >> i totally agree. what the republicans have mostly run on is the idea they want to stop the president. they want to stop this president. quite frankly, this president has already been stopped. it doesn't make that much sense. but there's enough resentment of the president, his numbers are low enough that that gives them a shot. >> much of the money on ads has been spent attacking obama. here's one ad from today. >> isis, gaining ground, terrorists committing mass murder. ebola inside the u.s. americans alarmed about national security. what's president obama doing? making plans to bring terrorists from guantanamo to our country. ignoring the constitution, congress, in the american people. november 4th, obama's policies
are on the ballot. vote to keep terrorists off u.s. soil. vote republican. that's dastardly. he's releasing terrorists into our communities? >> right, he's bringing them here. >> that's an idiot that would say that. although now krush chef is in york. he's in new york! >> but that ad, that's the atmospherics, you know, be afraid. obama is not protecting you. the terrorists are coming. the germs are coming. diseased africans are coming. >> the churn. that's the republican churn in the last week. it's an emotional thing. any spare votes out there on the table, they're going to go for the fear on that. that ad is a very example of it right there. >> i don't know what to say.
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on new york's first ebola patient who is recovering at bellevue hospital. with fears mounting, many believe that ron klain, that was him, the president's ebola czar is working to eliminated damage for democrats in next week's midterm elections. >> some have speculated you were brought in mainly to handle this from a political perspective, even the midterm elections are in two weeks. any comment on that? >> yeah, right now i am not worried about winning elections. however, there are a few safety tips that people should know heading towards election day. for example, the ebola virus actually flourishes in warmer climates, excuse me. so if you live in a southern state such as louisiana, arkansas, or kentucky, you actually may want to avoid any large public spaces, like, say, a polling booth. [ laughter ] one exception, however, is that we believe latinos in red states
may actually have an immunity to ebola, so they're good to go. >> nice job, scare tactics are nothing new in politics. with halloween coming up, tom corbett is hoping to capitalize on the fear factor in his bid for re-election against democrat tom wolf. he's out with a new tv ad, inspired by some classic horror movies. take a look. [ screaming ] >> you think this is scary. have you seen tom wolf's plan for raising the state income tax. one report said it would more than double the income tax paid by many middle class families. and that's just plain crazy. >> tom wolf, his higher taxes are so frightening it even scares people who scare people for a living. >> what a ridiculous advertisement. finally the man who legally changed his man to darth vader to run for a parliamentary seat in ukraine was not allowed to
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being quarantined at a base in italy for 21 days. they are restricted to certain areas. and the cdc revising guidelines for workers coming back, none of them include forceable quarantine. now back to "hardball." ♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "hardball." should health care workers returning from west africa submit to mandatory quarantines? that's the fight we saw today. and we saw it unfold over the weekend between the white house and cuomo on christie. plus we're in the final stretch of who will control the senate in president obama's last two years in office. stakes couldn't be higher. everything depending on how the polls go. the bush family says it's 100% behind jeb running in 2016.
but is the republican base happy about that? time now for the roundtable. gene cummings is deputy managing editor of bloomberg. and jonathan silver, a clean energy consultant who knows many things. it seems to me, april, that this thing, i see an interesting epipha epiphany, a look into the window of how the two parties are different, and the personalities. that's when chris christie says, put them in a quarantine tent. before they were saying, keep them in west africa. the president and the scientific community are saying, let's be humane here. what's the right way to treat, rooting for the nurses in every case, not treat them as typhoid marys. it's a really difference in the approach. >> i'm not going to say this because we're hearing that rahm emanuel might be feeling the same way as chris christie. as far as the nurse who we were trying to figure out if she has ebola or not. is it about her rights, or
safety for the nation or for herself? what trumps what? >> what's your answer? >> if you were saying, take the reporter hat off, i want to know that i'm safe. i want to know that i'm safe. >> even if there's no evidence that it's contagious? >> contagious, how though? >> like on the airplane or the subway or walking down the street. >> you can sneeze on someone and those particles, that's still bodily fluids. >> we have two cases now. is that a pandemic? >> no. how many millions of people live in this country? >> 320. >> so it's not a pandemic. we'll still be scared. >> you're giving me the political answer. >> no, it's not. it's the truth! >> what i don't get is the tent. what is up with the tent. if you're going to quarantine somebody, put them in a hospital, put them in a room, give them a tv set. was she going to sit in that
tent for 21 days and not complain? >> she's already talking lawsuit. >> what did they expect was going to happen? you know, i think what we may see, because we're starting to see it, pat quinn in illinois, also a democratic governor, considering some restrictions. governor o'malley today came out with his own protocol. >> they're reading the polls too. they know which way the wind's blowing politically. >> it's not to say there isn't someplace in the middle. >> maybe home quarantine. >> exactly. >> this is scary stuff, and states have a challenge in balancing public safety with the public's concerns which aren't always accurate, but which are legitimate. the president has had a muscular response. he's identified an ebola czar, and more importantly, the last pandemic we had was an aids epidemic and president reagan didn't say anything about it for
three years while people died. >> we have eight days until election day. you can call this the october surprise, anything you want to call it. but it's the only thing we're talking about. so it's the atmosphere. it's the box this campaign is coming in, ebola talk. >> absolutely. >> and that's not good for the president. >> it's not good for the democratic candidate. you look down in north carolina, what little bit of a lead that kay hagan had held, pretty stubbornly for months is now shrinking, in part because thom tillis has seized on this and not let go. one of the earliest and constant critics of obama. >> what's worse, thom tillis or ebola? [ laughter ] >> the other thing, suddenly in the ad and that's new too. >> let's turn the page over to jeb bush. he's ready to run. is he is or isn't he? according to his son, he's considering it.
here's george p. >> is your dad going to run for president? >> i think he's still assessing it. >> do you think it's more than 50%, less than 50%? >> i think it's more than likely that he's giving this a serious thought in moving forward. >> that he'll run? >> that he'll run. if you asked me a few years back, i would have said it would be less likely. >> so the family will be behind him 100%? >> they'll be behind him 100% if he decides to do it. that one exception is of course mother barbara who in the past has spoken out against a run by another bush. "the times" also reports she's been persuaded to stop airing her concerns publicly. one of the biggest cheerleaders appear to be the former bush presidents, 41, and 43. the one person who is really
pushing to get jeb to run is george w. he's talking it up all the time. >> the albatross around jeb bush's neck is george w. at the republican convention, all the republican presidents were glorified. that one letter was left out -- w. the silence was deafening. so his brother is going to be the albatross around his neck, and the reason why he would have a glimmer of hope is because of democrats who want immigration, minorities, who want immigration, and that's something, chris, that after this midterm, the white house is going to go straight ahead trying to deal with immigration, right after the midterm. >> if they go by executive order, that's just going to enrage the republicans. they won't even talk to him about it anymore. >> that's probably right. on the other hand, the republicans can't win without the hispanic vote and the asian vote in 2016, and they care dramatically about what happens with immigration.
>> but if nothing gets past, does that help the president? 48% among the hispanic community. the bottom line, he's not getting overwhelming support in that community. so if he keeps failing to pass, they might just say, we don't have any faith in them either. >> or any of them. they may drop out after being energized for the last couple of cycles. in addition, the president has made this promise to that community and has stepped away from it twice now. for him to do it a third time would be to the deep detriment of the democratic party. but i don't see how he does that right after the campaign, given that this campaign is very unlikely to end the fight for control of the senate. >> let me say something. this is so vivid. here a guy has hispanic children. they look hispanic in many ways. this is sort of, so close to the bone, to the skin, that there's no way there's not going to be
some heated debate. suppose jeb gets into a debate with somebody, they make slashing comments about hispanics -- >> he's married to an hispanic, has hispanic children. >> it gets personal. >> very personal. so the republicans, if there are republicans who believe, that small minority who believe in immigration, he is the one to deliver it. but the albatross around his neck is his brother. not necessarily his father. but his brother, because he brought on a recession, he brought a war that many didn't want. and there are other things that happened. so we have to see what happens. >> but it's not just his brother. it's also his own policy. you mentioned immigration. education is another -- >> common core. >> yes, another area where he's out of step with the base, especially in the early primaries. >> so the question is really, how do you position yourself to run in the primaries and then reposition yourself in the general? >> just to continue my old argument, there's a compromise
to be had. it's called the senate bill on immigration, it's got teeth, it's very tough on illegal hiring. i don't know why the president doesn't say that and stop offering himself up as an amnesty guy, saying, i'm for a tough compromise with real teeth in it. he doesn't want to do it because he wants the issue rather than the bill right now. i hope he changes his mind. we'll come back and talk about what's going to happen if the republicans win both the house and the senate? the other side of winning is you have to do something. this party is all negative, the republicans. what are they going to do if they get the deal? this is "hardball," the place for politics. it lets you earn cash back when you buy and again as you pay. that's cash back twice. it's cash back with a side of cash back. the citi double cash card. the only card that lets you earn cash back twice on every purchase with 1% when you buy and 1% as you pay . with two ways to earn, it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided.
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control of the u.s. senate next we can away from the democrats. in fact, a little scare themselves to go with their hub. mccarthy gave some tough talk to a group of long island republican donors. i do know this. if we don't capture the house stronger and the senate and prove we could govern, there won't be a republican president in 2016. key line there? prove we could govern. republicans have had no governing strategy other than tran sill jens. i'm back right now with the round table, of course, with april, jean and jonathan. april, you mentioned during the break a drop in gas price. this is one of the things people are looking for. a little hope. gas price drop is almost like a tax break. >> we're at a time where this country is producing more oil than relying on foreign oil. yesterday, a race for the cure
in around that area $2.89 for unleaded regular. that's a big deal when we were at $4 a couple years ago. it's sbl ee's interesting, thou these times, when the president's approval rating is down, $2.89 is not making a big -- >> who's going to celebrate that? >> i'm celebrating. squl is that going to last? >> yeah. and it's going to last a long time. it's great and the president has done a great job in positioning that. >> with the middle east going whacko, as it often does, how can that happen? >> we're general rating a lot of clean energy in this country. we have enough energy resources here to power ourselves for many, many years to come. the funny thing about what mccarthy was talking about in repositioning is he's actually trumpeting style, not sub starns. he's going back to the same energy aden that that he
proposed in the meeting you were referring to with the building out of the keystone biepline. that's not guilty where americans are. >> well, the thing that strikes me is when they talked about governing, i'm just trying to get my head around how that happens when boehner and the house caucus has a larger, unruly tea party caucus than they had the last time. what kind of caucus goes to that chamber and then they go over to the senate and need 60 to get passed the democrats. >> what's their hope? what do they believe in besides no? >> most is a protest vote. i want's to vote against obama and the democrats. >> well, do they get a tax cut? that's nice in the personal sense. >> some are thinking that they'll get obamacare repealed.
>> and they used to think they'd get obama impeached. but i don't they will e think we're in this mood as a nation. >> if they get the votes next tuesday, they get the personal sub pea that power. they could also be headed by rand paul or ron john son. that means that any time the chair of that committee wants to do this, he could issue a subpoena. this is enormous power. and immaterial does explain the nixon impeachment effort, the iran contra hearings. if the other party has absolute control of the subpoena power in the senate, look out. now, they may be responsible about it, but it's one hell of a lot of power. >> they ran kind of silly u witch hunt after witch hunt. >> but daryl isis is not serious. but john mccain is. >> and that's something that's going to happen.
and they'll elevate benghazi because it's about 2016. >> but the republicans will still have to develop a platform for '16. >> well, this is one of the plum opportunities he would like if herp a reporter. anyway, thank you for coming here. when we return, let me finish with the news that ebola has become a plilt kal football. you better believe it. in this last week before the election, you're watching, "hardball," the place for politics. politics. blank blaeng.
let me finish tonight with the news that ebola has become a political foot ball. coming from trenton now, chris christie wants all to know the smart, tough, common sense way to stop the spread of ebola. this is a long way, of course, from two years ago when christie joined obama to survey the sandy storm damage. now, the man in trenton wants to people of the world to know how tough he is. tough on disease, tough on those who might have it. tough period. it reminds me one time of when he questioned a woman's choice of her child's school to which he responded none of your business. the president's calm handling of this will look more
than credible. houf, if if two cases of ebola con tracted here grows expoene t exponentially, the president will grow more tougher. that's "hardball" for now, "all in" with chris hayes starts rite now. >> stay at home for 21 days. we will pay. enjoy your family, enjoy your kids, read a book. read my book. >> this will become the national policy because it's smart, tough, common sense policy. >> this, as a nurse, who returned from west africa, was held against her will in isolation at a new york hospital. >> i felt like my e my bassic human rights were vie lated. >> what happened with nurgs hccox was