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we've got a big show coming up. we're going to be talking live with someone who has been living rnd a forceable ebola quarantine for the last 12 days. this is not anybody you have heard from before. they have never spoken publicly before tonight. and where this person is quarantined may really surprise you. so that's coming up in just a few minutes. that's an exclusive tonight which is a big deal. i hope you will stay tuned for that. we begin with major general daryl a. williams. major general williams served in the united states military for more than three decades. he's a two-star general. winner of the distinguished service medal, legion of merit, bronze star. major general williams is also the commander of u.s. army africa. he's the head of u.s. army operations on the entire continent of africa. if the u.s. saerm dispatched to any of the nations on the kontinent of africa, it's major general williams' job to make sure they have support and
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security that they need to achieve their mission. so general williams is a very busy man right now. the u.s. military has a lot going on in africa right now. you might remember that u.s. troops were dispatched to uganda to help root out joseph coney there. they've also been sent to the central african republic to look for elements of joseph coney's rebel group. they've sent around 80 troops to the nation of chad to help in the search for the missing nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped by boko haram. a longstanding counterterrorism campaign in somalia and yemen right across the gulf from somalia. a contingent of u.s. troops was sent to mali to support that country's fight against islamic militants there. on top of all of that now is this big new effort in the western african nations of guinea, liberia and sierra leone. it's going to be a long time
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deal because that effort is for the u.s. military to essentially build up the public health infrastructure of those entire countries. build up the public health infrastructure in those countries for those countries so that the out-of-control epidemic those countries are battling there doesn't continue to threaten the rest of the world. so being the head of u.s. army africa right now means you're busy. you are in charge of a lot. it means being a very complicatedly engaged person with a lot of life and death demands on your time. a lot of travel demands on your time. a huge territory under your purview. a lot of different things going on all over that huge continent and you're the top guy in charge of all of it. you are constantly on the road and very engaged, right? and that was the case for major general williams, head of u.s. army africa. it was. now, though, change in plans. because general williams and
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roughly a dozen other troops just completed a month-long trip to liberia where they were part of setting up the first phase of the u.s. military's response to the ebola epidemic in that country. they just finished that. and now that they have left liberia and they are headed back, the army has made the decision to hold them rnd a three-week quarantine. according to the pentagon, they've not liked to be quoted calling it a quarantine but it is a quarantine. this u.s. military team traveling back from liberia, including the two-star who is head of u.s. army africa are being held in an area not accessible by the public. they aren't allowed to leave this area or allowed visitors. while they are being held, they are being monitored daily for symptoms of ebola. to be clear. none of the members of that military mission has exhibited any symptoms of ebola. they were not working directly with ebola patients but they are
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being quarantined anyway. and this is new. under previous public health guidelines in the u.s., people who either contact with ebola patients while wearing proper protective gear or people who had been in areas where ebola is epidemic but didn't necessarily have direct contact with patients. anybody who was conceivably at risk but who themselves showed no signs of having the disease before now, they were basically told to be aware of their risk and monitor themselves and make sure they do not have symptoms. they are supposed to take their temperature twice a day, be in immediate touch with public health authorities if they spike a fever or have any other symptoms. people are supposed to self-monitor and get themselves to qualified health professionals at the first sign that anything might be wrong. that's how it had been. but in the last few days, including now in the u.s. army, but not in the rest of the u.s. military, now we have a little
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bit of ka ogs in terms of what the rules are. we now have public health rules for specific jurisdictions being announced every few hours on a state by state and agency by agency basis across the country when it comes to ebola. none of the new rules match. just in the last 72 hours we've had new announcements from maryland and virginia and illinois and georgia and pennsylvania and new york and new jersey and more are expected, probably more will come in tonight over the course of this show and into the evening. and none of the things these states have announced are exactly like the other things other states have announced. the highest profile policy roll-out from new york and new jersey was announced at this press conference on friday by the press conscience, ambitious governors of new york and new jersey. they rolled out their policy on friday. that policy roll-out has been a bit of a debacle. the first patient to be diagnosed with ebola in new york
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was diagnosed on thursday. that's when governor cuomo had a long press conference with the mayor of new york city and other health officials to assure the state and the country that america's largest city, that new york was well prepared for this eventuality. everybody should remain calm. this is all under control and everybody knows what they are doing. so that was andrew cuomo on thursday. one day later, the same governor andrew cuomo and new jersey governor chris christie decided to hold another big press conference together. and at that big press conference they anonced, no, everybody doesn't know what they are doing. specifically, the federal government's guidelines. the cdc guidelines for how to manage ebola risk. they said those guidelines were not enough. they were not tough enough for new york and new jersey and so these tough governors were not going to follow cdc guidelines anymore. they had a better idea. they decided it was a better idea to impose mandatory 21-day quarantines on all medical
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professionals returning from west africa. ebola does not spread from people who are asymptom attic or from people who don't have the disease attal. but new york and new jersey announced they were going to quarantine asymptomatic people anyway whether or not they had the virus. why? because it seemed safer to them. as governor christie explained at the press conference, they had a chance that very day to prove that their way was better, health officials be damned. the reason they had a chance to prove their plans were better than the public health derived plans we were following before is because a health care worker that very day had traveled from sierra leone to newark, engine. and so the governor said she would be the test case for their new policy. >> we've agreed that quarantine is the right way to go in this regard, and we will work out the particulars of where this
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particular individual will be quarantined, whether it will be in new jersey or new york. it's the first application of this new set of standards that we have developed over the last 24 hours and now have had the opportunity to implement. >> now that we've had the opportunity to implement it, we've developed this new application of standard s over the course of the last day. that's how long we've been working on it. the person who had to endure this first application of this new set of standards developed over the course of the day turns out she was not going to go along with this happily. she was having none of it. so the story of this weekend was that governor chris christie of new jersey fought the nurse and the nurse won. her name is kaci headquart-- hi. it seems to have been made up in a complete panic up to and including not even putting her in a normal isolation facility
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as if she were a normal symptomatic patient with an infectious disease. they didn't even do that. instead, new jersey decided to build her her own kind of weird tent city. she was confined in her own tent with no running water with an invented port-o-potty where you go number two in what looks look a suitcase and that was their plan for her. camping for her outside the hospital because the isolation wards don't work? this is a medical professional who was not sumptomatic. she had not tested positive for ebola. she has no ebola symptoms. she is just a person who had the misfortune of getting off a plane in the great state of new jersey. and this is what they decided to do with her. they made it up over the course of the last 24 hours. this nurse did not take it lying down when these bizarre policies were imposed by force on her.
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she wrote a piece about her treatment for the "dallas morning news" while in her isolated tent city. she said she was being treated like a criminal and a prisoner. nobody seemed to be in charge. it was chaotic. nobody was telling her what was going on. the united states must treat returning health care workers with dignity and humanity. she hired lawyers to represent her. so that was all over the weekend. on saturday and into sunday morning. and that apparently caused another freak out from nork and new jersey. in this case, a freak out in reverse. after that nurse took her complaints public and the obama administration took notice that what new york and new jersey had announced and started to implement made no sense from a public health perspective and they made that assessment public to -- publicly to new york and new jersey, new york governor andr andrew cuomo then decided to
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change his tune. thursday, don't worry, we know what we're doing. friday, everybody freak out. saturday, oh, my god, the nurse is complaining. sunday, he gets a new idea. he holds another press conference to say new york will not be doing what new jersey is doing all along. he said people can be quarantined and monitored after they return from west africa but they can be kwaurn tiquarantine monitored at home. we don't have to build them tent cities. then new jersey governor chris christie decide he'd climb down as well and he announced his big test case for how new jersey was going to lock everybody up coming from western africa was a policy in which, if you didn't have a place to stay in new jersey and landed at the newark airport, they'd lock you up in a tent for a while. a couple of days but then give you a ride to wherever. now kaci hickox has been allowed to go home to the state of maine
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even though christie said he was going to forcibly holder if hear 21 days. christie after caving, he's now insisting this really was his policy all along. nothing has changed at all, which is plainly ridiculous. but that's what happens when we look to every jurisdiction in the country for leadership on something that ought to be guided by science. this afternoon the cdc put out their new guidelines essentially to guide state policy making on this stuff. the new cdc policies say that people should be evaluated not according to magical thinking about where people have been or what kind of people they are but rather evaluated according to the real risks they've been exposed to and the real risks they might pose to others. the cdc guidelines can't be binding federally. our regulatory structure doesn't work that way. the cdc guidelines are set up to
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be vague enough to leave states room to do it on their own with the best scientific advice. as such, these new guidelines leave states enough wiggle room to create a wide enough range of policy there's probably going to be quite a bit of policy gibber jabber and uncertainty, even now over the next few days after this new cdc advice was released. but what is interesting and what has been lost in all of this is even though chris christie and andrew cuomo have a way of gaining attention for everything they say and even though it seems like states across the country are rolling out their new individual quarantine policies because of the new york city case last week and new york and new jersey decided to invent bad public health policies, new york and new jersey are not leading the way here. whether or not you think this is leadership for good or for bad, they aren't first. there is another state that has the most stringent or the most
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draconian mandatory quarantine policy in the country. and it is not new york or new jersey. it's not a state really being talked about in the national debate at all. that state is actually connecticut. democratic governor of connecticut dan malloy on october 7th, almost three weeks ago with very little national attention, dan malloy three weeks ago declared it to be a public health emergency and empowered them to constitute mandatory quarantine orders for people returning from west africa. and the order that dan malloy issued leaves it up with commissioner of public health in connecticut to decide to impose a mandatory quarantine on anyone deemed by the commissioner to potentially have been exposed to ebola and to expose a risk to others. the number of people affected so far is not clear. or count as best we can tell is that eight people have been held rnd that mandatory quarantine in connecticut so far.
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this is not just people self-monitoring. this is people who are being held. this is an ordered status. one of those individuals who is being held in this ordered quarantine has tested negative for ebola and yet he is still confined to a quarantine under order from his state government. he's never spoken to the media before. his identity has never been before been publicly revealed. he's been under quarantine in connecticut for the past 12 days and he is ready to talk for the first time. and that is next. keeping a billion customers a year flying, means keeping seven billion transactions flowing. and when weather hits, it's data mayhem. but airlines running hp end-to-end solutions are always calm during a storm. so if your business deals with the unexpected, hp big data and cloud solutions make sure you always know what's coming - and are ready for it.
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we've agreed that quarantine is the right way to go in this regard and we will work out the particulars of where this particular individual will be quarantined, whether it will be in new jersey or nork. but it's the first application of this new set of standards that we have developed over the last 24 hours. and now have had the opportunity to implement. >> working on it for a whole day. seeing what's going to be good. new jersey governor chris christie anoncing on friday new jersey's new and controversial ebola quarantine policy. a mandatory quarantine for people who had been to west africa, even if they had no symptoms of ebola. a 21-day quarantine. then he changed his mind. his first test case was sent home to maine after only three days. and, in part, because chris christie is a high-profile governor and because he anonced his new standards in bombastic
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political terms, that quarantine announcement and that cave over implementing it got a ton of attention. but new jersey was not the first state to do something like this. it's been a much lower profile thing but the first mandatory ebola quarantine was actually put in place by the state of connecticut rnd a policy announced just under three weeks ago. connecticut as best as we can tell has approximately eight people under mandatory quarantine orders tonight. yale university ph.d. unit ryan boyko is one of them. he travelled to help them set up a computer datagis help them in their fight against ebola. mr. boyko has tested negative for ebola but under state orders of the government of connecticut, he's been quarantined at home for the past 12 days and kocounting with an armed police officer standing guard at his door. he's decided now to talk
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publicly about his quarantine. joining us via skype is ryan boyko in connecticut. thanks for being with us. i appreciate your decision to talk with us. >> thanks for having me on. >> what were you doing in liberia? how long were you there? >> i was there for three weeks. i was helping them build their contact tracing system. so contact tracing is essentially just identifying and following up with everyone who has been in contact with somebody who later tested positive for ebola. and in every other epidemic, contact tracing and then immediately isolating those contacts that become sick is what ended the epidemic. just the same thing should apply to this epidemic. just larger and requires more effort now. >> you were there working on those database solutions, trying to help them in that side, the administrative side of their response, were you in direct
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contact with people who were sick or around dead bodies at all? were you in sort of a front line setting at all? >> no. it was remarkably mundane for what you might imagine. basically just going from a hotel to the ministry of health where i worked in an i.t. office most of the time and back to the hotel to eat and go tobase i iccally every day. >> you left liberia on october 10th, so 2 1/2 weeks ago. when you came back to connecticut, came back to the united states, as far as i understand it, you weren't immediately put into quarantine but several days after you got back. what happened there? why did the state decide to quarantine you? >> so, yeah, i arrived back on a saturday. and on that wednesday, i had a low grade fever that eventually wound up getting to 100.2. and so i was in contact with
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physicians at yale health per their protocol. and they made the decision to send me to the hospital for testing for ebola. and that made the news, and the governor actually had a press conference for ebola already planned the next afternoon. and so it was just serendipity, i suppose, the timing was such that the governor felt like he could make a political point, i think, by instituting the quarantines then. >> what you were symptomatic, having been where you were and working an what you'd been working on, were you worried you might have contracted ebola? when you got that low grade fever, were you worried? >> the thought occurs to you, but i really wasn't very concerned. i knew that i had no contacts that should have given me ebola, and it really is spread by --
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direct contact with bodily fluid with very sick and dead individuals. so i wasn't very concerned, but the thought, you know, crossed my mind and it was a great relief for my mom especially when the negative test result came back. >> so you got a negative test result while you went through that process. the state of connecticut issued you a mandatory quarantine order which was not specific to you being symptomatic, not specific to the results of your blood test. what was the order, and what did it tell you to do? >> yeah, no, it wasn't. it applied to a colleague of mine who went with me and was never exhibited any symptoms. at the time, the governor may have that press conference, he released a statement that said that everyone coming to connecticut from those three countries would be quarantined. and it seems like he's been following through on that policy
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ever since then. >> what is the circumstance of your quarantine? obviously, you're in your own apartment. i've been told there's a police officer standing outside your door to make you think otherwise if you decide to leave or if anybody decides to visit you. what are the circumstances. what can you do and what can't you do and what's it been like for the past two weeks? >> i can't have visitors. i can't leave. it's very isolate, as you might imagine. you can't do most of your exercise. you can't go to work, visit friends, family, anything like that. and, yeah, it's just been hard and just like what happened in new jersey, it wasn't clear right away what was happening or there was a miscommunication, i think, between the state and the local officials and the police and everyone. and just like what happened with new jersey.
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so i was actually kept in the hospital for a whole extra day after the hospital wanted to release me. and during that time doctors would come shake my hand. all of the medical staff there had no concerns about getting ebola. they were joking i'm the only person in new haven they could say for sure didn't have ebola but the state had different ideas. >> as lots of other states are rolling out policies like this, it's been very low profile that connecticut has pursued this policy. very few people knew before tonight that you were in kwarn tine or your league was in quarantine or that a handful are in these mandatory quarantines. lots of states are rolling out new policies. as somebody who is experiencing this, as somebody who is concerned about the spread of this disease and the public health implications here is there any reason to think that people are more safe in connecticut because you're locked in your apartment now than if you were self-monitoring and ready to call authorities if
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you showed symptoms at some point? showed symptoms again or if your colleague showed symptoms? >> no. no scientific evidence to suggest that people are more safe. in fact, they are less safe because this policy makes it harder for health care workers and others to go to west africa. people, as you pointed out in the start of your show, it's a patchwork of regulations constantly shifting and people don't know what to expect when they come back. most health care workers go for about four weeks. when you tack on a three-week quarantine, you're nearly doubling the amount of time they have to take off work, that they have to avoid their families and avoid the rest of their life. for many people they just can't do that. and so it's going to result in fewer volunteers going and more spread of the disease in west kav which will result in more cases here. >> yale university ph.d. student ryan boyko quarantined for 12
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days now under state orders in connecticut despite testing negative for ebola. he is probably the only person in connecticut with a sure-fire blood test guarantee that he's negative because he's got that test. nevertheless in quarantine. thanks for joining us tonight. it's not an easy decision to go public about these things, but i appreciate youing by here. >> thank you. we should note, we asked the connecticut governor's office for a statement about mr. boyko tonight. and they told us this. they told us, the protocols are not a punishment. we're operating out of an abundance of caution to limit any potential public health risks. the question is whether or not it makes public health sense. all right. lots more ahead from here in san francisco tonight. just how much local government can one of the richest corporations on earth buy for itself? a test case coming up in just a moment.
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san francisco is here. it's at the top of a peninsula surrounded by water. if you head east, right across the bridge from san francisco toward the city of oakland, the thing that divides the two cities is why they call the whole oakland/san francisco region the bay area. there's the bay in between the east bay and san francisco. there's another less famous city across the bay from san francisco not too far from oakland but further up called richmond. and when you are in richmond, here's the view from richmond back to san francisco. you can even see the lovely bridge off in the distance between the hills. here's what happens if you turn the camera around the other way from that vantage point. that's a giant chevron oil refinery. takes up nearly 3,000 acres in richmond. processes nearly 250,000 barrels of crude oil a day. that refinery has been in richmond over a century. if you were looking in this
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direction about two years ago, this is what you would have seen. the chevron refinery on fire. in august 2012, a corroded pipe ignited, caused an explosion that sent a huge cloud of black smoke across richmond. the fire stretched on for five hours and caused more than 15,000 richmond area residents to seek medical treatment. that fire in twnt 12 caused the city council to sue chevron for damages to the city and its residents. since that explosion in 2012 and the suit, the city council management and chevron have essentially been at war with each other. conveniently for chevron, there is an election one week from tomorrow where a whole bunch of seats on the richmond city council are up as is the seat for richmond's mayor. and chevron has shown an extreme interest in those races to say the least. we started reporting on this earlier this month. chevron is dumping millions of dollars into those local races
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in little old richmond to try to hand pick a favorable slate for the city council and their favorite candidate for mayor. when you drive around richmond as we did while here, you can see the evidence of chevron's big spending. these are the big billboards. affixed to every available surface. all supporting the chevron-backed slate of candidates for the city council. here's the guy chevron wants to be the next mayor. a giant billboard for nat bates. as you can see in teeny tiny font, it's not paid for by the nat bates campaign but by -- major funding by chevron. it's not just billboards. chevron has been overwhelming richmond residents with all sorts of glossy mailers promoting their favorite candidates. >> so this is a bunch of junk mail that we've been receiving on a daily basis about the
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election that's coming up. >> how many would you say you get at like -- on a daily basis? >> i want to say at least five to six maybe? this isn't even all of it. there was a good chunk that we threw away because it was getting so ridiculous. >> does it say who those are paid for? >> oh, yeah, it does. they all do. it says here paid for my moving forward, major funding by chevron, an energy provider. >> chevron is spending tens of thousands of dollars filling mail boxes across richmond with leaflets for their candidates and putting up those billboards. going after the candidates they see not aligned with their interest. the young lady going through the mailers there is part of a coalition called richmond working families. it's a new group that formed in the last few weeks to try to counter this huge flood of money
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that chevron is pumping into the local races in this ton. the name of the group just formed to counteract chevron's influence, they decided to call themselves richmond working families. not hard to remember but remember that. richmond working families. right around the same time that organization was formed to combat chevron's influence in the race, chevron formed another group to counter richmond working families and they've decided to call their group richmond working families for jobs 2014. that's like if the republicans decided to run a presidential candidate against obama. richmond working families.com before the anti-chevron group was able to do so. >> it's funny because they use a name really similar to richmond working families and it makes me think they are trying to steal our thunder. >> and what effect you think it
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has that they chose a name basically what you guys were using? >> i'm pretty sure they're trying to trick everyone. >> the chevron-funded pac giving loads of money to that group that's trying to confuse people with their name, that pac is not actually located in richmond. this is it. you're looking at it. they are in a nondescript office park about 30 minutes outside of richmond. chevron's favorite candidate for mayor is this guy nat bates. it's his smiling face on all their billboards across the city. the guy he's running against is this gentleman who has been on the richmond city council for 19 years. he's now trying to run for mayor against this whole huge wave of chevron money. >> they like to be in complete control of their destiny, and it doesn't sit well with them that they have to deal with regulators, whether it's the city of richmond or the state of
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california or the united states of america. they really want to be above all that. and so investing a few million dollars in a local race is a pretty good investment for them. i mean, i'm not sure they can invest anymore. i'm not sure what -- if they put $10 million into this race, i don't know what they would -- there probably aren't -- they probably couldn't buy any more tv ads. they bought all the billboards in richmond. they've probably maxed out on their spending here. >> what do they think they'll get from your opponent that they can't get with you? >> they'll get undying loyalty, whatever they ask for. they always have. >> how much money have you raised for your campaign personally? >> i've raised about $40,000. >> so that's a little bit less than what your opponent has
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being spent on his behalf. >> well, it's a lot more than a little bit less. it's a whole different world less. >> that is an understatement. a candidate chevron is trying to defeat for mayor has raised $40,000 for his campaign so far. his opponent, nat bates, has had more than $1.4 million chevron dollars spent on his behalf. here's what he told us about that. >> chevron being the largest corporation and taxpayer in the city of richmond have engaged in protecting their interests, i suspect. and they have selected candidates, not just me, but others who they feel they can work with. >> what do you think they see in you? what do you think they want from you in -- if you were to be elected? >> i think the primary thing that any company wants from their elected official and especially from the mayor is an
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opportunity to open the door and sit down and discuss with them their concerns. and i'm committed to that. >> chevron's favorite candidate for mayor, nat bates, has promised the first thing he will do when he is elected, what he will do on his first day in office is sit down with the ceo of chevron to hear what chevron wants for and from richmond. but despite all that money being spent on his behalf by chevron, nat bates says he'll remain completely independent from that corporation that's funding so much of the support for his campaign. >> chevron do not vote. they provide finances to campaign but they do not vote. i am nobody's boy. and i will never be anybody's boy as long as i little. i know one thing, chevron may be with you today and they can very well be against you tomorrow.
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so my commitment continues to be with the people who put me in office. >> we reached out to chevron while out here. we weren't able to interview anybody when we were there, but tonight they provided us a statement that reads in part, chevron supports city leaders who sharer commitment to policies that foster an economic environment where businesses can thrive and create jobs. we also received a statement from the richmond funded pac that reads in part, this is an impoornt election for richmond's future. they sdefr to have enough information about the candidates to make an informed decision about who is bestable to lead richmond. we'll post both of those statements in full an our blog and hope to speak with a representative from the chevron itself on the air an this show in the coming days. joining us now is roger roberts. he is a resident of richmond, california. thanks for being here.
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>> thank you for having me. >> you've covered richmond for a lot of time. you live there. is this a normal richmond election? >> absolutely not. what we have this time in richmond is an escalation of campaign spending that had already been on the way up in previous election cycles. this time we have an amount that's unprecedented. then we see a demonstration of what $3 million plus dollars can do in a relatively small socioeconomically disadvantaged city. it can stuff every mailbox with mailers, line every billboard, line every boulevard with billboards, and it can also create a variety of websites. it can be in your free streaming music when you're in richmond. it's a sophisticated campaign that ultimately advances chevron's interests. >> the candidate who is not the chevron favorite candidate who has the amazing name of tom butt, the guy with the memorable name, you think people are going
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to remember his name. that's some sort of advantage. when he says essentially they've bought every billboard in richmond. even if i had more money to spend, i don't know what i'd spend it on. they've eaten up all the space available. is that an element of truth or hyperbole. >> there's an element of truth. chevron has been able to dominate the conversation with low information voters. folks who live in richmond's more socioeconomically disadvantaged communities that perhaps are not abreast of all of the political issues that are at work in richmond. they are going to see chevron's billboards, chevron's fliers and favorite candidates and see them every day. that has value. >> there's some speculation and i'm looking forward to talking to chevron about this. there's some speculation that it may not be just that they want the best economic environment for all business in richmond. this may specifically be about
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this pending lawsuit against them. that they may want the city council to settle and a friendlier city council might do that. is there any reportable truth to that? obviously that's the suspicion. any way to get at that? >> there is the speculation. it is plausible. the truth is chevron has a lawsuit pending against it by the city of richmond. the city sued chevron in the aftermath of the 2012 fire and they retained a formidable law firm, one that sued pg&e in the past over a gas line. and so they picked up some real take dog attorneys and that is a very real possibility of potentially a settlement in the tens or hundreds of millions of dollars. so if that lawsuit were to be stopped in its tracks, it could conceivably save the corporation a tremendous amount of money. >> which makes a few million spent on these municipal elections seem like a bargain.
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player. they're not real live ball players and usually it shows. it's 60 feet from home plate. the pitcher's mound is higher than it looks, almost a foot off the grond. when the major league player throws down off that mountain it's like flinging yourself down a hill toward the batter while simultaneously throwing as hard as you can. regular people just don't come across anything like that. ceremonial pitches by normal people are almost always a disaster. there's the crowd, the adren lunn, distance, height of the mound. it almost always adds up to embarrassing. even if you are like a big strong rapper named 50 cent. he threw the ball directly sideways earlier this year. carly ray jepson forgot to let go of though ball and had it land approximately three pete in front of her feet. even president obama, president obama flng one way high and way
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wide at a nationals game and he -- oh, god. "washington post" put together a chart showing the location of some of these. president clinton and president bush do okay as does snoop dogg and supreme court justice sonia sotomayor. but look at this one. nolan ryan, one of the greatest pitchers of all time. what's going on there? michael jordan -- michael jordan, really? if you have a choice against playing basketball or basketball against him, you know what to do. so that's the disappointing world of mortals. even famous and talented mortals when it comes to ceremonial first pitches. and then there's what happened this weekend. saturday night. i'm at my parent's house. mom's making dinner. game is on. ceremonial first pitch. we all think this is going to be horrible. they have some 13-year-old kid who is going to do the first pitch. should have listened closer to
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who it was. >> pressure? pressure? no big deal. 13 years old. didn't stand in front of the mound on the grass like everybody else. took the actual mound. fired away from full pro distance. took in the full capacity roaring world series crowd. threw an effortless hard strike right over the plate. fist bump. done. nonchalant. flawless. should have paid attention to who it was and i would have known it was coming. mo'ne davis. the girl pitcher for the philadelphia boys team who became a nationwide sensation after her performance at the little league world series this summer. i should have known she'd be the only mortal alive to nail a ceremonial first pitch like that at the world series. nerves of steel.
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she will not even be allowed to drive for three more years. come on. best new thing in the world today. by 60 1/2 feet. right for the plate. best new the world. that does it for us tonight. we'll see you tomorrow from colorado where we have a big show lined up. i think of you as throwing out the first ball at this show every tight. >> thank you, rachel. >> thanks, lawrence. an actress from "the walking dead" is now working to stop sex trafficking. she'll join us to tell us how she helped save 36 girls. some as young as age 12. first, what's at stake in house and senate elections next week?

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